Another divine SP guy for sale

[lytic]

team: Beckys Babes

in case anyone was interested.

[damnMikeBrown]

What'd those other guys end up going for?

[lytic]

8/4/2003 Sold Jeffrey Parham to No score 204 000 US$ (91 000 US$)
8/4/2003 Sold Stuart Biggs to Danvers Onions 150 000 US$ (8 000 US$)


but you aren't allowed to buy any...

[daedalus]

I hear the Gargs are counting the change in their piggy bank just to see how he'll fare against the Cows.

[BillyNYC]

Well, I tried...your wife going to cook me something special if I visit Iceland for creating a bidding war?

(I really did want him though for the KC matches perhaps. Might bid on the other SP guy later in week)

[vex]

I bidded early on.

[lytic]

yeah, another one is for sale... now remember, these guys have had a few weeks of divine I think. She's a pack rat when it comes to these guys. She's got a few more at divine now.

[KevinNU7]

Does she only train SP? Seems like a bit of a waste for a training program to only turn out $200k guys.

[Raven Hawk]

It's not necessarily a waste if she can get them up there quickly. I would pay a bit of money for a 19 year old divine SP, solid scoring, passable passing. It would make a good forward trainee.

And yes, my change purse has been a little light, but not after selling a midlevel trainee or two.

[lytic]

I think the inad/inad defending/winger who is injured for 2 weeks sold for around $400k. I'm at work and can't check... but my buddy was looking around this morning before work.

[daedalus]

It may "only" be 200 a pop but she can get them out there fairly quick like Raven Hawk said. Plus, if she goes ahead and pay, say, 50-100 for a young passable or solid scorer and pops them to divine set piece, I bet it'd go a lot higher.

[sterlingice]

You know, that sounds like a cool idea for a training program when you're starting out. Get a bunch of cheap guys with passable as max skill and train to divine SP, especially a pass/pass striker.

SI

[lytic]

She likes it also because she doesn't *have* to play friendlies unless she wants to. Less injuries, however, backup form is an issue. I also see her win games that she shouldn't... which is pretty cool.

9/3/2003 Sold Luke Haney to Zelhem02 410 000 US$ (37 000 US$)

not bad for inad/inad...

[lytic]

The next guy up for grabs... current bid $300k

Wallace Calloway (5172518)
24 years, solid form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and infamous.
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 80 000 US$
Wage: 980 US$/week
Owner: Beckys Babes
Warnings: 2


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: disastrous
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: divine

[lytic]

9/6/2003 Sold Wallace Calloway to WalleyeUSA 327 000 US$ (80 000 US$)

9/3/2003 Sold Luke Haney to Zelhem02 410 000 US$ (37 000 US$)

8/4/2003 Sold Jeffrey Parham to No score 204 000 US$ (91 000 US$)

8/4/2003 Sold Stuart Biggs to Danvers Onions 150 000 US$ (8 000 US$)

[Mr. Wednesday]

...she plays in the same series as Split Perssonality, which is cool.

[lytic]

yeah, I've had split bookmarked for quite some time. He's got a really good team!

[lytic]

3.5* defender for sale now... same team.

[DukeRulesMAB]

Any chance any more high SP types will be going on sale early this season? If so, I might save some cash to acquire one, could be really helpful to survive my DIV series.

[damnMikeBrown]

Look around. I got a magical set pieces, solid exp/passable leadership, solid defender for $398k. Granted, he's 32, but he's a coach soon and can actually play in the mean time.

[KevinNU7]

That's damn good!

[lytic]

I think she's got about 4-5 ready to go in the offseason... I think she said a keeper and a forward will be going out tomorrow.

[DukeRulesMAB]

Awesome...let us know.

[lytic]

1 inad keep up for sale... 3 utopians. She may do a week of stamina next week, so they may turn the week after.

[MacroGuru]

I have a questions in regards to your wifes team.

Is she still training SP, and does she start training them at 17? if so, what are they generally up to by 19 or 20?

[lytic]

Yeah, I think she likes being somewhat famous in HT.
She trains most of her pulls that are above inad. So by mid 19 they would be divine, I think.
I dunno honestly how she goes about things. I don't think she really has a plan except to one day beat me. Ironically, we did have a cup match against each other once... I won in OT right before PKs. I was sweating it!!!

She has a real nice guy for sale right now (Ironically from Iceland). He is 10 or so weeks trained beyond divine, so he's about divine+5 levels. We kinda lost track during our move. Here is he is:
Tómas Óskarsson (1481229)
33 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and honest.
Has outstanding experience and solid leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: Ísland
Assessed value: 182 000 US$
Wage: 2 496 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Beckys Babes
Warnings: 0


Stamina: excellent Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: excellent Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: divine

Matches for National team: 8
Career Goals: 53
Career Hattricks: 2

He's the guy that missed the PK in last years cup match. He also the reason she lost her qual match, so she doesn't want him anymore since he chokes under pressure. A good Coach prospect as well.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by lytic

Tómas Óskarsson (1481229)
33 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and honest.
Has outstanding experience and solid leadership abilities.
----
He's the guy that missed the PK in last years cup match. He also the reason she lost her qual match, so she doesn't want him anymore since he chokes under pressure. A good Coach prospect as well.

Wouldn't the controversial be bad for a coach

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

Wouldn't the controversial be bad for a coach

Agreeability means nothing for your coach. He will be a half anti-clown for the year he has to be on your team before you make him a coach though...

FM

[lytic]

I also failed to mention he just fell from formidable PM about a month ago. So maybe a week or 2 of training to get him back up and resell? heh

[Masked]

Of course you would still have to have some money left to turn him into a coach after meeting the $2.4M asking price. It will be interesting to see if anyone pays that much for him.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Masked

Of course you would still have to have some money left to turn him into a coach after meeting the $2.4M asking price. It will be interesting to see if anyone pays that much for him.

Well making him into a coach will only happen in 16 weeks, so plenty of time to find the 600k or so necessary to make him a coach. Still, 2.4M is a LOT for an excellent playmaker, even one very close to formidable...

FM

[lytic]

I don't think anyone will... but people have been known to do stranger things.

[damnMikeBrown]

I was about to jump in on him, until the $2.4m tag came up. That's just too much.

[Desnudo]

The problem there is that most teams that have $2.4 million wouldn't dare sacrifice their midfield for that price since it would likely be a pretty big drop. Too bad the Excellent isn't in scoring or defending.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

The problem there is that most teams that have $2.4 million wouldn't dare sacrifice their midfield for that price since it would likely be a pretty big drop. Too bad the Excellent isn't in scoring or defending.

Don't know what kind of big drop in midfield he would cause. This fellow has outstanding experience, is very close to formidable playmaking, and has the required excellent stamina to be effective. Looking at the player's best games, he is capable of 4.5 stars which isn't too bad, and he had a 4 stars match in his latest match...

Still, 2.4M is way too much and he's one big injury away from retirement

FM

[Havok]

i wouldn't pay 2.4 million for a 33 year old anything!

1 bad injury and he's toast.....

[finkenst]

Originally Posted by Havok

i wouldn't pay 2.4 million for a 33 year old anything!

1 bad injury and he's toast.....

until week 16 of ownership when you turn him into a coach and he's magically healed...

right, FM?

--tim

[daedalus]

If I had that kind of money, I would pay 2+ for the guy. ESPECIALLY if I was training something defensive-related. The fact that he'll just about make sure I never get shutout and, thus, always have happy supporters (whiners that they are) is amazingly huge. I'd have a better chance of always getting good attendance. With his experience, he'd be playing somewhere between high-formidable to low-outstanding and that's pretty darn good for a 3rd midfielder. On top of that, he'll be a crazily good coach trainee with his solid leadership. And his experience would make his coaching conversion obscenely low.

The ONLY negative I can really think of is the aforementioned anti-clown effect until he becomes a coach.

[Airhog]

is ther a limit to the number of people you can train? Other then salary costs, would it be worth it too buy say 50 guys for 50000. train them all to divine and sell them and make mad cash?

you could turn 3.5mil in cash into 10mil in about 2 seasons. Of course you could even double that and make 20 mil if there isnt a limit...

[daedalus]

I don't think so. When you have more than 50 players, you get some warning message at the top of the players screen that says you have a yellow card because you have too many players. I never really noticed much in the way of an actual penalty. The one downside is that "only" the first 50 players are available in the drop down box you use to pick your lineup from. [The way to get around this, of course, is to give your starters numbers. But that only works for Supporters.]

[Airhog]

daedalus: who gets the yellow?

[Alf]

daed : I think I read on the Daytrading conf (useless actually) that when you go over 50 players, you lose training, or is it something even worse .

[Airhog]

obviously there has to be limits. otherwise old players would be training 400 guys in set pieces and making a cool 40mil every 2 seasons.

[daedalus]

Airhog . . . You, the manager, do. There's a message at the top of your "Players" page that says you have too many players and you have a yellow card. I never noticed anything else, though.

Alf . . . That's a possibility. I never noticed any message about losing training from the Club Secretary, though. It might be possible that I got rid of some players by the time training rolled around as well, I don't remember for certain.

[lytic]

He sold for $2.4M

like I said, I've seen crazier...

[damnMikeBrown]

Wow.

[daedalus]

I don't know. 2.4 doesn't seem so bad to me. Between his playmaking skill and experience, he seems like he'd perform in the formidable-outstanding range. The set piece has a good chance to win you some games and, if you're winning and you have a decent size park, you can pay off your 2.4 in about 3-5 games. By then, you'll be left with a hell of a coach-trainee.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by daedalus

I don't know. 2.4 doesn't seem so bad to me. Between his playmaking skill and experience, he seems like he'd perform in the formidable-outstanding range. The set piece has a good chance to win you some games and, if you're winning and you have a decent size park, you can pay off your 2.4 in about 3-5 games. By then, you'll be left with a hell of a coach-trainee.

Wait a second? That would take a really large stadium. I got 212K in my 32K stadium so you'd have to have double that to make the 500K a game. But, I think the problem is that the $2.4M could be better spent. When I was looking, solid/solid coaches could be had for $600K in the high end. I suppose this would be even higher since he could be converted into an excellent coach. Looking at his playmaking ability, an exc/exc goes for well under $1M, closer to $600K. And otherwise useless divine set pieces guys go for $200K, so basically, he's about $1M overpriced.

But I doubt you'd be able to get all this in one guy otherwise, so if that's worth $1M to you, then knock yourself out.

SI

[lytic]

don't forget he's like 1 month removed from formidable PM.

[daedalus]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Wait a second? That would take a really large stadium. I got 212K in my 32K stadium so you'd have to have double that to make the 500K a game. But, I think the problem is that the $2.4M could be better spent. When I was looking, solid/solid coaches could be had for $600K in the high end. I suppose this would be even higher since he could be converted into an excellent coach. Looking at his playmaking ability, an exc/exc goes for well under $1M, closer to $600K. And otherwise useless divine set pieces guys go for $200K, so basically, he's about $1M overpriced.

But I doubt you'd be able to get all this in one guy otherwise, so if that's worth $1M to you, then knock yourself out.

SI

Looking at today's gate, I DEFINITELY stand corrected on the amount of money earned and how long it would take to recover. With 45 in the park, I only managed to bring in 290. It would definitely take pretty much the whole year to make up the money and you'd need to have a park at least in the 60's, I'd imagine.

On the other hand, I still stand by the fact that I think he's a good buy and 2.4 isn't too much for him. As mentioned, he's a very high excellent and almost formidable. Add in his experience level and you have someone who'll perform at high formidable to somewhere in outstanding, depending on form. That may seem low'ish for teams that train playmakers but, for others, it seems a reasonable level of performance to me. Especially, if you can hide him as the 3rd midfielder. His Set Piece skills might be able to win games for certain teams or, at the very least, keep that team from being shutout. Teams that I think would benefit most from a guy like this are teams like lytic's, damnMikeBrown's or YoSoySean's. With their defense levels, chances are they will give up very few goals if any. It may only take a goal or two to win a game. Now, someone like this will likely not have made a difference in today's game for YoSoySean when he loses by 4. But he might have kept the team from being shutout where they will have pissy Supporters.