Wanna see a HT-esque game take form?

Coffee Warlord · 09-07-2003, 10:22 PM

Dunno if I'll ever finish it, but I've made dents. Kinda spiffy.

Presently working on an online college basketball sim, on the same sorta spin as Hattrick. (With inspiration also taken from TCY)

Why college bball? Low number of players to deal with on a single team, and it's reasonable to have a buttload of schools. I have a rough plan on setting up conferences, and the motherload of the 64 team tourney at the end of a season.

At any rate, I'll take the first 5 people who post and are actually interested in me setting up an account for them. Note there won't be a helluva lot you can do for awhile (other than watch as new pages pop up), but I thought some of you may be interested in seeing a development cycle of a game like this from start to (hopefully) finish.

Once I hopefully get a more working game going, I'd like to use you guys as my guniea pigs for tweakage feedback, etc. We'll see how it goes!

sterlingice · 09-07-2003, 10:33 PM

Heck, I guess I'll volunteer to guinea pig. Although, it depends on when you need stuff done. As the year gets towards late October, death will set in with my school schedule.

SI

Qwikshot · 09-07-2003, 10:34 PM

Coffee Warlord · 09-07-2003, 10:35 PM

Not for the first five folks. That's just for anyone who wants to take a look around while I'm building.

I'd open to everyone, but right now I have to manually generate teams, so I'm just doing it for a handful who wanna look.

Actual testing of things happens later, and I'd like to use the general FOFC populous for that one.

thealmighty · 09-07-2003, 10:40 PM

ready and willing to lend a hand, or a pc, or an eye...

sterlingice · 09-07-2003, 10:43 PM

Maybe since I volunteered to take Kansas in GoldenEagle's football project when he gets it done, I should "volunteer" to take KU in college hoops

SI

Nyarlahotep · 09-07-2003, 10:47 PM

I'd be happy to help.

sterlingice · 09-07-2003, 10:59 PM

Wow, I have some real bricks on my team, both in ability and brains.

Cumulative GPAs of 0.94, 1.47, 1.20, and 1.80

SI

Franklinnoble · 09-07-2003, 11:01 PM

Room for one more?

Qwikshot · 09-07-2003, 11:02 PM

very interesting...

first question:

one of the most fascinating things about hattrick is that you can put players on the market...how would you go about in this game getting new blood? would it have to happen after the season was over, etc?

still, quite interesting...I'm in.

sterlingice · 09-07-2003, 11:11 PM

Even better, I have a couple of guys with "Mental: negligable" with GPAs of 3.20 and 3.89 but my king brick with a sub 1 GPA is "Mental: decent". He just doesn't apply himself

SI

Coffee Warlord · 09-07-2003, 11:16 PM

If you notice the recruiting section, that's part of the beginning design plan.

My plan for that is along the lines of...

About 1/3rd into the season, the wad of high school kiddies get generated. From then till the end of the season, you rank a list of (some number) of players, and a position priority.

In english...you rank say 20 players from 1-20 in order of how bad you want them.

You also rank your order of positions from worst to best, so the game knows if you get that stud C, it won't go for another center, (if you had say 3 centers at the top of you 1-20 list) it'll move to your next priority.

The plan is to have the kids select schools based on similar (but not as indepth) desires as TCY. Some might go for the powerhouses, some might go for the brainiac schools, some may go for exactly the opposite. (the build a winner schools and the 'hey, a school that doesn't give a SHIT how poorly educated I am!' schools) Crosscheck that with your recruiting list, add some random chance, and there ya go.

I'm toying with an idea of Junior College transfers as well during the season. Not realistic, but it could be fun.

Coffee Warlord · 09-07-2003, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sterlingice
Even better, I have a couple of guys with "Mental: negligable" with GPAs of 3.20 and 3.89 but my king brick with a sub 1 GPA is "Mental: decent". He just doesn't apply himself

SI

S'what you get with the quick and dirty utterly random player generator.

Names are quite entertaining too. Old database of Britsh baby names I used to generate character cards for a paintball scenario game.

Nyarlahotep · 09-08-2003, 12:41 AM

Man, if I had known there was an Ancient Unnamed Powers College in Peoria, I wouldn't have wasted all that time trying to figure out whrere I wanted to go.

vex · 09-08-2003, 12:42 AM

I would like to participate if possible.

Vince · 09-08-2003, 04:21 AM

Hey CW...like the others, I'd be interested in helping. I've usually got at least a few hours online a day, and I'm guaranteed about an hour or so before I go to bed, so as long as things aren't time sensitive, I'd be happy to help.

The Afoci · 09-08-2003, 07:13 AM

I am interested as well.

BreizhManu · 09-08-2003, 08:16 AM

could be interesting, I'd rather see a global basketball game "a la hattrick" but a college basketball game could be nice.

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
Man, if I had known there was an Ancient Unnamed Powers College in Peoria, I wouldn't have wasted all that time trying to figure out whrere I wanted to go.

The only town that would be more fitting to house ancient apocalyptic evils would be Galesburg. And that's taken.

3ric · 09-08-2003, 10:11 AM

Sweet idea, I'd like to be a tester if possible.

Havok · 09-08-2003, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BreizhManu
could be interesting, I'd rather see a global basketball game "a la hattrick" but a college basketball game could be nice.

same here

Nyarlahotep · 09-08-2003, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
The only town that would be more fitting to house ancient apocalyptic evils would be Galesburg. And that's taken.

Arkham all the way.

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 05:57 PM

Yay. Found an acceptable database for names. No more horribly horrible goofy names.

Although...I have a special place in my heart for this freshly generated guy...

C - Armando Koo
He is 20 years old, 6'11" tall, weighing 209 pounds
In his freshman year, out of Friendship, MD
Cumulative GPA of 3.54

Armando Koo 0wns j00!

illinifan999 · 09-08-2003, 06:04 PM

I want to play.....

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 06:12 PM

And another entertaining note. Damn, those Kentucky high schools should be proud for producing such top quality mental whiz's. Just generated a test high school prospect list....

SG - Dave Basford
He is 19 years old, 6'0" tall, weighing 203 pounds
A high school senior, out of Betsy Layne, KY
High school cumulative GPA of 0.50

TargetPractice6 · 09-08-2003, 06:29 PM

I think I'm too late

Mr. Wednesday · 09-08-2003, 06:41 PM

So, will you be having Prop 48 etc. so that such academic luminaries have to sit out a season?

If you're still accepting applications, I'm interested.

Poli · 09-08-2003, 06:46 PM

See what I mean, CW? I just finished this thread.

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 06:53 PM

Tell ya what, after I feel like taking a break, I'll finish up the 10 team conference with whoever else wants in. Think there's 4 more slots.

Just so you know, it's not like there's much of anything you can do except look at things. Nothing interactive really works, aside from searching through recruits and changing your password.

The Afoci · 09-08-2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
Tell ya what, after I feel like taking a break, I'll finish up the 10 team conference with whoever else wants in. Think there's 4 more slots.

Just so you know, it's not like there's much of anything you can do except look at things. Nothing interactive really works, aside from searching through recruits and changing your password.

Well other than forgetting my password, I can't screw anything up! Sounds good.

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 07:10 PM

And as I was telling GE, I still think my favorite feature thus far is also one of the most pointless pieces of fluff.

I have a database of every zip code in the USA. To generate hometowns, I pick a random 5 digit number, match it to a zip code, and boom. There's where homeboy is from.

It'll even balance properly as time goes on, since the big cities have way more zipcodes.

(Hey, it amuses me.)

The Afoci · 09-08-2003, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
(Hey, it amuses me.)

If only people were so kind to what amuses me.

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 07:21 PM

Naked female crawfish coated in peanut butter pleasuring your sack is not amusing.

It's...I don't know what it is. Nor do I think I want to.

The Afoci · 09-08-2003, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffee Warlord
Naked female crawfish coated in peanut butter pleasuring your sack is not amusing.

It's...I don't know what it is. Nor do I think I want to.

Like I have said before, many use to think watching your mom change from a closet was weird. Look at where we are at now. Look where we are now. People change, times change, what is acceptable changes. As will man/animal loving.

Coffee Warlord · 09-08-2003, 11:41 PM

Just so you guys know, I filled the last 10 slots of the test conference. I'll let everyone in to screw around once I actually get a signup function working, and add more conferences.

As a little update...

Conference Scheduling is done. Non conference games are in the works.

High school recruit generation done, with fully searchable prospect list. Actual recruiting is high on the list of things to do.

Starting lineups/reserves setup is done. You can set an overall offensive/defensive game plan (yes, I had to include a 'run and shoot' option), and you can give your starting 5 individual orders.

Many other minor things that mainly involve administrative/automation shit, but those are the big milestones.

And as the other inside joke in the game thus far...

The highest possible rating a player can have is colossal.

vex · 09-09-2003, 12:26 AM

What is the skill ladder? And why no shooting or passing skill?

vex · 09-09-2003, 12:30 AM

Yay, I have the tallest basketball player in history!!!

PG - Julio Davis
He is 19 years old, 7'11" tall, weighing 241 pounds
In his freshman year, out of Bridge City, LA
Cumulative GPA of 3.68
Aggression: questionable
Awareness: questionable
Control: questionable
Endurance: pathetic
Mental: pathetic
Physical: weak
Speed: decent
Strength: weak

Neuqua · 09-09-2003, 01:09 AM

Where's the website for this? Or is there one?

vex · 09-09-2003, 01:18 AM

You must be accepted into the cult first

Vince · 09-09-2003, 04:07 AM

PG - Gary Beaupre
He is 21 years old, 7'10" tall, weighing 326 pounds
In his freshman year, out of Forest Park, GA
Cumulative GPA of 2.68
Aggression: acceptable
Awareness: pathetic
Control: negligable
Endurance: weak
Mental: questionable
Physical: weak
Speed: negligable
Strength: acceptable

Beaupre is a monster...while this guy is just a frickin' dense fellow:

PG - Cam Hughes
He is 18 years old, 6'1" tall, weighing 283 pounds
In his freshman year, out of Center, TX
Cumulative GPA of 0.50

Also, CW...does it matter that all of my guys are PG's?

Coffee Warlord · 09-09-2003, 08:55 AM

Heh, think I overdid it a tad when I allowed 7'11" players into the height gen.

Everyone I generate for the temp stuff is a PG right now.

To answer vex, no shooting or passing skill or anything real 'obvious' because I didn't want it to be that obvious. "Shooting" as it were, is based more upon how aggressive you are, how well you can control the ball, etc, etc, etc.

Note the zero documentation right now. There won't be for awhile.

Nyarlahotep · 09-09-2003, 11:17 AM

Should I still not have any players?

Nyarlahotep · 09-09-2003, 11:20 AM

dola-

Here's a recruit on the other end of the height spectrum:

SF - Manfred Barcelo
He is 17 years old, 5'0" tall, weighing 166 pounds

Coffee Warlord · 09-09-2003, 11:30 AM

You dont have any players Nyar? One moment. You will.

Coffee Warlord · 09-09-2003, 11:32 AM

Dola.

Now you do.

Nyarlahotep · 09-09-2003, 11:33 AM

Thanks.

Coffee Warlord · 09-09-2003, 09:18 PM

Thing(s) that got done today.

Interactive side of recruiting system is in. Fairly simplistic, and changed somewhat from my original plan. I like this better. Easier.

There are 3 levels of recruiting. Heavy, Moderate, Light. You can select up to 5 players for each level of recruitment. At 3 points during the season, the game will parse the recruit list, and commit a few people. If any of your recruits commit, you have those slots available to reset to another player.

How players actually choose their school is simple (mathmatic formulas aside). Recruits will not base their decision on how long you have recruited, only how high your level is at the time of running (along with their likes/dislikes, of course). This way you don't have to worry about racing to be the first one to recruit someone right when the lists pop up. It's a competative system, but not based on how often you can login. As long as you have time every 3 weeks or so to hop in and set a list of 15 players, you're fine.

I also made some tweaks to the player generator. Should hopefully be seeing a lot less ultra short players and ultra tall players, and I capped maximum height at 7'5", instead of the ungodly 7'11".

Coffee Warlord · 09-09-2003, 09:22 PM

Next on the list...it's about time I tackle the real system of signups, and multiple conferences.

Nyarlahotep · 09-09-2003, 11:34 PM

The recruit current abilities don't always match up from the board listing to what it says when you click on them.

Coffee Warlord · 09-09-2003, 11:39 PM

Should be fixed now. Thanks.

Yes, for the record, every team has a small random seed when they are created. This random seed alters what you see when you view player's ratings. Doesn't alter the true stats, just what gets returned to you.

Yes, it can be beaten. But, it'd take a lot of effort to do so, with several teams working together to try and get a read on it.

And hey, if you go to the trouble to figure out the seed, more power to ya.

09-07-2003, 10:33 PM	#2
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Heck, I guess I'll volunteer to guinea pig. Although, it depends on when you need stuff done. As the year gets towards late October, death will set in with my school schedule. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-07-2003, 10:34 PM	#3
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Ok __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

09-07-2003, 10:40 PM	#5
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	ready and willing to lend a hand, or a pc, or an eye... __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

09-07-2003, 10:43 PM	#6
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Maybe since I volunteered to take Kansas in GoldenEagle's football project when he gets it done, I should "volunteer" to take KU in college hoops SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-07-2003, 10:59 PM	#8
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow, I have some real bricks on my team, both in ability and brains. Cumulative GPAs of 0.94, 1.47, 1.20, and 1.80 SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-07-2003, 10:35 PM	#4
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Not for the first five folks. That's just for anyone who wants to take a look around while I'm building. I'd open to everyone, but right now I have to manually generate teams, so I'm just doing it for a handful who wanna look. Actual testing of things happens later, and I'd like to use the general FOFC populous for that one.

09-07-2003, 10:47 PM	#7
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	I'd be happy to help.

09-07-2003, 11:01 PM	#9
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Room for one more?

09-07-2003, 11:02 PM	#10
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	very interesting... first question: one of the most fascinating things about hattrick is that you can put players on the market...how would you go about in this game getting new blood? would it have to happen after the season was over, etc? still, quite interesting...I'm in. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

09-07-2003, 11:11 PM	#11
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Even better, I have a couple of guys with "Mental: negligable" with GPAs of 3.20 and 3.89 but my king brick with a sub 1 GPA is "Mental: decent". He just doesn't apply himself SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-07-2003, 11:16 PM	#12
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	If you notice the recruiting section, that's part of the beginning design plan. My plan for that is along the lines of... About 1/3rd into the season, the wad of high school kiddies get generated. From then till the end of the season, you rank a list of (some number) of players, and a position priority. In english...you rank say 20 players from 1-20 in order of how bad you want them. You also rank your order of positions from worst to best, so the game knows if you get that stud C, it won't go for another center, (if you had say 3 centers at the top of you 1-20 list) it'll move to your next priority. The plan is to have the kids select schools based on similar (but not as indepth) desires as TCY. Some might go for the powerhouses, some might go for the brainiac schools, some may go for exactly the opposite. (the build a winner schools and the 'hey, a school that doesn't give a SHIT how poorly educated I am!' schools) Crosscheck that with your recruiting list, add some random chance, and there ya go. I'm toying with an idea of Junior College transfers as well during the season. Not realistic, but it could be fun.

09-08-2003, 12:41 AM	#14
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	Man, if I had known there was an Ancient Unnamed Powers College in Peoria, I wouldn't have wasted all that time trying to figure out whrere I wanted to go.

09-08-2003, 12:42 AM	#15
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I would like to participate if possible.

09-08-2003, 04:21 AM	#16
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Hey CW...like the others, I'd be interested in helping. I've usually got at least a few hours online a day, and I'm guaranteed about an hour or so before I go to bed, so as long as things aren't time sensitive, I'd be happy to help. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

09-08-2003, 07:13 AM	#17
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	I am interested as well. __________________ I had something.

09-08-2003, 08:16 AM	#18
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	could be interesting, I'd rather see a global basketball game "a la hattrick" but a college basketball game could be nice.

09-08-2003, 10:11 AM	#20
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Sweet idea, I'd like to be a tester if possible. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

09-08-2003, 05:57 PM	#23
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Yay. Found an acceptable database for names. No more horribly horrible goofy names. Although...I have a special place in my heart for this freshly generated guy... C - Armando Koo He is 20 years old, 6'11" tall, weighing 209 pounds In his freshman year, out of Friendship, MD Cumulative GPA of 3.54 Armando Koo 0wns j00!

09-08-2003, 06:04 PM	#24
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I want to play..... __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

09-08-2003, 06:12 PM	#25
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	And another entertaining note. Damn, those Kentucky high schools should be proud for producing such top quality mental whiz's. Just generated a test high school prospect list.... SG - Dave Basford He is 19 years old, 6'0" tall, weighing 203 pounds A high school senior, out of Betsy Layne, KY High school cumulative GPA of 0.50

09-08-2003, 06:29 PM	#26
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I think I'm too late

09-08-2003, 06:41 PM	#27
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	So, will you be having Prop 48 etc. so that such academic luminaries have to sit out a season? If you're still accepting applications, I'm interested. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

09-08-2003, 06:46 PM	#28
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	See what I mean, CW? I just finished this thread. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

09-08-2003, 06:53 PM	#29
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Tell ya what, after I feel like taking a break, I'll finish up the 10 team conference with whoever else wants in. Think there's 4 more slots. Just so you know, it's not like there's much of anything you can do except look at things. Nothing interactive really works, aside from searching through recruits and changing your password.

09-08-2003, 07:10 PM	#31
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	And as I was telling GE, I still think my favorite feature thus far is also one of the most pointless pieces of fluff. I have a database of every zip code in the USA. To generate hometowns, I pick a random 5 digit number, match it to a zip code, and boom. There's where homeboy is from. It'll even balance properly as time goes on, since the big cities have way more zipcodes. (Hey, it amuses me.)

09-08-2003, 07:21 PM	#33
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Naked female crawfish coated in peanut butter pleasuring your sack is not amusing. It's...I don't know what it is. Nor do I think I want to.

09-08-2003, 11:41 PM	#35
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Just so you guys know, I filled the last 10 slots of the test conference. I'll let everyone in to screw around once I actually get a signup function working, and add more conferences. As a little update... Conference Scheduling is done. Non conference games are in the works. High school recruit generation done, with fully searchable prospect list. Actual recruiting is high on the list of things to do. Starting lineups/reserves setup is done. You can set an overall offensive/defensive game plan (yes, I had to include a 'run and shoot' option), and you can give your starting 5 individual orders. Many other minor things that mainly involve administrative/automation shit, but those are the big milestones. And as the other inside joke in the game thus far... The highest possible rating a player can have is colossal. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 09-08-2003 at 11:42 PM.

09-09-2003, 12:26 AM	#36
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	What is the skill ladder? And why no shooting or passing skill?

09-09-2003, 12:30 AM	#37
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Yay, I have the tallest basketball player in history!!! PG - Julio Davis He is 19 years old, 7'11" tall, weighing 241 pounds In his freshman year, out of Bridge City, LA Cumulative GPA of 3.68 Aggression: questionable Awareness: questionable Control: questionable Endurance: pathetic Mental: pathetic Physical: weak Speed: decent Strength: weak

09-09-2003, 01:09 AM	#38
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Where's the website for this? Or is there one? __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

09-09-2003, 01:18 AM	#39
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	You must be accepted into the cult first

09-09-2003, 04:07 AM	#40
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	PG - Gary Beaupre He is 21 years old, 7'10" tall, weighing 326 pounds In his freshman year, out of Forest Park, GA Cumulative GPA of 2.68 Aggression: acceptable Awareness: pathetic Control: negligable Endurance: weak Mental: questionable Physical: weak Speed: negligable Strength: acceptable Beaupre is a monster...while this guy is just a frickin' dense fellow: PG - Cam Hughes He is 18 years old, 6'1" tall, weighing 283 pounds In his freshman year, out of Center, TX Cumulative GPA of 0.50 Also, CW...does it matter that all of my guys are PG's? __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

09-09-2003, 08:55 AM	#41
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Heh, think I overdid it a tad when I allowed 7'11" players into the height gen. Everyone I generate for the temp stuff is a PG right now. To answer vex, no shooting or passing skill or anything real 'obvious' because I didn't want it to be that obvious. "Shooting" as it were, is based more upon how aggressive you are, how well you can control the ball, etc, etc, etc. Note the zero documentation right now. There won't be for awhile.

09-09-2003, 11:17 AM	#42
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	Should I still not have any players?

09-09-2003, 11:20 AM	#43
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	dola- Here's a recruit on the other end of the height spectrum: SF - Manfred Barcelo He is 17 years old, 5'0" tall, weighing 166 pounds