Need advice

bigjdotcom01 · 10-03-2003, 05:55 AM

I am playing the #1 team in v.53 this weekend and I have a keeper dilemma. My #1 keeper has gone into the form tank. Which one of these guys should I play:

Alejandro Arenas
388 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: solid
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched
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Leon Eaton
174 000 US$, 18 years, excellent form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

Is excellent/ inadequate better than inadequate/solid? It is important since I am run-and-shooting now, so I may need a save or two

-Panther · 10-03-2003, 07:22 AM

Arenas. in inadequate form, he'll still play equivelent to a low-mid solid keeper.

Eaton in excellent form will be about the same as a low passable.

I use 2 levels form to 1 level skill

FrogMan · 10-03-2003, 07:24 AM

inadequate form isn't exactly in the bottom of the form tank, we're not talking about him being in poor or wretched form. At 388k of value, he's still in good shape and may pull his usuall 3 stars performance, but it very doubtful an inadequate keeper, even in excellent form, will ever give you a 3 stars performance. Even more, your solid dude has a tiny experience advantage over your other fellow.

I had about the same situation, where my keeper dropped 410k to 375k, gradually over a few weeks and eventually dropping to inadequate form, but he never gave me less than 3 stars and my defensive ratings stayed about the same. I would never have even been tempted to play my inadequate keeper instead of my solid one...

FM

lytic · 10-03-2003, 07:44 AM

yeah go with the solid. He'll get you 2.5* min @ inad

That inad will give you 2.5* max.

lytic · 10-03-2003, 07:45 AM

dola, don't forget abou the exp either... that 1 step may help him out even more.

bigjdotcom01 · 10-03-2003, 08:17 AM

Thanks for all the help. I figured as much, but Arenas was in excellent form just three weeks ago and had a value of $481K.

sterlingice · 10-03-2003, 01:58 PM

Since it's a keeper and only has one variable, just look at their value to get the answer. Even in excellent form, Eaton is only worth $174K while Arenas in inad is worth double that.

SI

YoSoySean · 10-03-2003, 02:17 PM

The tank is when your keeper drops from excellent to weak in one week and doesn't recover for 10-11+ weeks

FrogMan · 10-03-2003, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YoSoySean
The tank is when your keeper drops from excellent to weak in one week and doesn't recover for 10-11+ weeks

Ouch!

damnMikeBrown · 10-03-2003, 06:25 PM

Another reason you should forgo bidding on the 1st week 17yr solid keeper. You'll depress him too much to train him to a U-20 level!

YoSoySean · 10-03-2003, 08:09 PM

Ask Henrik Becser, my 18 yo Hungarian U-20 prospect, how well I train keepers to U-20 level :-P

10-03-2003, 07:22 AM	#2
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	Arenas. in inadequate form, he'll still play equivelent to a low-mid solid keeper. Eaton in excellent form will be about the same as a low passable. I use 2 levels form to 1 level skill __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

10-03-2003, 07:24 AM	#3
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	inadequate form isn't exactly in the bottom of the form tank, we're not talking about him being in poor or wretched form. At 388k of value, he's still in good shape and may pull his usuall 3 stars performance, but it very doubtful an inadequate keeper, even in excellent form, will ever give you a 3 stars performance. Even more, your solid dude has a tiny experience advantage over your other fellow. I had about the same situation, where my keeper dropped 410k to 375k, gradually over a few weeks and eventually dropping to inadequate form, but he never gave me less than 3 stars and my defensive ratings stayed about the same. I would never have even been tempted to play my inadequate keeper instead of my solid one... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

10-03-2003, 07:44 AM	#4
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	yeah go with the solid. He'll get you 2.5* min @ inad That inad will give you 2.5* max. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

10-03-2003, 07:45 AM	#5
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	dola, don't forget abou the exp either... that 1 step may help him out even more. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

10-03-2003, 08:17 AM	#6
bigjdotcom01 High School JV Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Somewhere in Upstate NY	Thanks for all the help. I figured as much, but Arenas was in excellent form just three weeks ago and had a value of $481K. __________________ West Henrietta FC (70601) - Go Crazy Lions!

10-03-2003, 01:58 PM	#7
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Since it's a keeper and only has one variable, just look at their value to get the answer. Even in excellent form, Eaton is only worth $174K while Arenas in inad is worth double that. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-03-2003, 02:17 PM	#8
YoSoySean High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: PA	The tank is when your keeper drops from excellent to weak in one week and doesn't recover for 10-11+ weeks

10-03-2003, 06:25 PM	#10
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Another reason you should forgo bidding on the 1st week 17yr solid keeper. You'll depress him too much to train him to a U-20 level!

10-03-2003, 08:09 PM	#11
YoSoySean High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: PA	Ask Henrik Becser, my 18 yo Hungarian U-20 prospect, how well I train keepers to U-20 level :-P

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