FOFC Cup V

Alf · 11-11-2003, 05:32 PM

Seedings
I will be using Frogman's Week 5 FOFC rankings to determine the groups seedings

November 24 update : Planning

-Result of the poll : groups of 4 (3 games in 3 weeks) - Max duration 8 weeks
group phase : weeks 7-8-9
playoffs phase : weeks 10-11-12-13-14

There will be a maximum of 64 teams (16 groups of 4), as of now, we are 64, still accepting people on waiting list in case people opt out.

Code:

       FOFC Member          Team Name       Tm ID  League       Region
 1  3ric              IFK Banaskruv         103399 Sverige Göteborg
 2  Aesyrqwe          White Sox Pride        71519   USA   Chicago
 3  Airhog            Oklahoma City Redneck  70559   USA   Oklahoma
 4  Ajaxab            Ajax Hawks             70556   USA   Iowa
 5  Alf               Alf Trickers           47201 France  Bordeaux
 6  Alterra           Madison Mallards      222150   USA   Wisconsin
 7  antbacker         Anteaters              71528   USA   Los Angeles
 8  Ardent Enthusiast North County Raiders   70913   USA   Missouri
 9  ausonny           Bees                   70510   USA   Tennessee
 10 bbor              Bbors                  29830 Canada  Ontario
 11 bigjdotcom01      West Henrietta FC      70601   USA   New York
 12 BishopMVP         Concord Assassins      72162   USA   Boston
 13 Blade6119         Blade Bombers          71724   USA   Missouri
 14 Breeze            Confederates           72127   USA   South Carolina
 15 BreizhManu        BZH Celtics FC        177241 France  Bretagne
 16 Celeval           ATLxpress             225397   USA   Atlanta
 17 Coffee Warlord    Galesburg Avengers     70481   USA   Chicago
 18 dacman            Rochester Roosters     71938   USA   Indiana
 19 daedalus          Calibiri                8598   USA   California
 20 damnMikeBrown     Aviators                8150   USA   Ohio
 21 dataking          Screamin' Seaman       70638   USA   Chicago
 22 deadrabbitsfc     Dead Rabbits FC       229456   USA   Texas
 23 Desnudo           Adios Pantalones       72035   USA   Seattle
 24 DocHolliday69     RN United              71071   USA   Maryland
 25 Doug5984          Louisiana Cyclones     72080   USA   New Orleans
 26 DukeRulesMAB      Frankfort United        8533   USA   Kentucky
 27 fantasic flying frFantasic Flying Frogg 175873 France  Montpellier
 28 finkenst          CC FC                 221902   USA   Illinios
 29 FrogMan           Cerio's Dragons FC    108238 Canada  Quebec
 30 GoldenEagle       Golden Eagles FC       71518   USA   Mississippi
 31 Havok             Maniacal Misfitz       72203   USA   Florida
 32 Hobbes-           Fockers                71987   USA   Philadelphia
 33 hulsey            Okham's Razors        222164   USA   Missouri
 34 iceberg414        tha_untouchables      229301   USA   Wisconsin
 35 Icy               Swamioms FC           119779 España  Castilla-La Mancha
 36 Katon             Lancre Wowhawks        57183 England London
 37 larrymcg421       Purple Pirates         71684   USA   Florida
 38 lytic             SouthPark Cows         70821   USA   Nebraska
 39 Masked            South Bay Saints       72176   USA   New Orleans
 40 mckerney          Square Pegs            71980   USA   Minnesota
 41 McSweeny          S. Boston Hooligans    71008   USA   Boston
 42 NAIWF             Manhattan Marauders    71399   USA   New York City
 43 ntndeacon         Deacons                 8322   USA   Alabama
 44 Nylarlahotep      Arkam Avengers         72049   USA   Rhode Island
 45 peaker            Peakers                70777   USA   Arizona
 46 PilotMan          Midwest Ice Storm FC   70500   USA   Ohio
 47 portnoise         Walk-In Special        72396 Canada  Toronto
 48 Professor58       High Tops               8146   USA   Chicago
 49 Qwikshot          Ultra Nox              70627   USA   Pennsylvania
 50 Ravenhawk         Gargoyles              70991   USA   Chicago
 51 RPI-Fan           Averill Park Mercury    8489   USA   New York
 52 saintjo           St. Louis Saints       71006   USA   Missouri
 53 sterlingice       Houston Hippopotami     8574   USA   Houston
 54 Sublime           Manchester Silver Bul  70827   USA   New Hampshire
 55 SuperBoo          Indos                   8714   USA   San Francisco
 56 terpkristin       Real Terps FC           8247   USA   Maryland
 57 The Afoci         Fighting Crawfish      70798   USA   North Dakota
 58 thealmighty       Fear of God           229331   USA   Texas
 59 thesloppy         Hobo Chunks            70235   USA   Oregon
 60 TonyR             Bearcats               71265   USA   Texas
 61 tucker rocky      Jacksonville Kickers   70857   USA   Florida
 62 vexroid           NE Oklahoma Sidekicks  71068   USA   Oklahoma
 63 Vince             Isla Vista Vandals     70384   USA   California
 64 YoSoySean         Intercourse Ball Kick  70548   USA   Pennsylvania

DocHolliday69 · 11-11-2003, 05:40 PM

I am in this year again

RN United 71071

Thanks
Rob

The Afoci · 11-11-2003, 05:46 PM

The Crawfish are in it and vow to win it this year.

finkenst · 11-11-2003, 05:46 PM

i'd like to take my first shot (and get rocked).

CCFC 221902

thanks,

tim

Katon · 11-11-2003, 05:56 PM

The Lancre Wowhawks will be in.

damnMikeBrown · 11-11-2003, 06:06 PM

I'd have to concur, that the group play was the most fun. The thing is, we have to plan it so far out. . . Last year we didn't, so a single elimination was the only way to go.

Another thing...with our teams developing, we may have more than a few who last past 4 cup games.

DukeRulesMAB · 11-11-2003, 06:13 PM

Frankfort United is, as always, in.

TonyR · 11-11-2003, 06:17 PM

The Bearcats 71265 are in.

NAIWF · 11-11-2003, 06:22 PM

After skipping last season's cup, I'd like to return - Manhattan Marauders 71399.

BreizhManu · 11-11-2003, 06:28 PM

I'm in

Raven Hawk · 11-11-2003, 06:31 PM

Since it is an odd cup number and the Gargoyles have already won Cups 1 & 3, I figure that I would be favored to win Cup 5.

I'm in!

I would vote for Group Play as well. It keeps everybody in the cup a lot longer. However, as our teams get better, more people will be in US Cup longer, thus we will have less time to run the cup . . . After looking at the schedule I would say that the cup should start on January 7th (equivalent of 9th round in the cup or week 8 in league play). With an 8 week cup schedule, we could fit it in with the final being the Wednesday after Qualifiers.

We could run the cup in a couple of different ways, depending on number of participants. I say that we stick to that schedule because, also if we start earlier, people may be out of town/away from their computers for the Holidays, so they may not have a chance to accept invites in time, etc . . .

Proposal 1:

64 teams - Top 64 teams, who are not in US Cup when FOFC Cup starts AND have signed up for the FOFC Cup, based on FM's rankings. 16 groups of 4, top 2 from each group makes, playoffs of 32, which is single elimination. Total: 3 weeks group play, 5 weeks playoff.

Proposal 2:

All takers - Divide the teams up into groups of 4, arranged on FM's rankings. Unlimited # of groups, however top 2 teams from each group are not guaranteed. Top team is guaranteed to make playoffs of 32, second place teams fill in the 32 based on points and goal differential. Total 3 weeks group play, 5 weeks playoff.

Let's hear some other ideas.

Havok · 11-11-2003, 06:39 PM

Misfitz are in as always.....

damnMikeBrown · 11-11-2003, 06:44 PM

We'd have to consider walkover's too. I remember last time, that was an issue. Some teams got 5-0 walkovers, and skated in, which, if we were an antagonistic bunch, would have caused strife. Still, the walk-over thing has to be addressed.

I'm in favor of proposal 1, however, if there are enough signups, I think we should move to proposal 2. Starting with 1 does not exclude moving to 2 if there is enough interest.

Oh, and the Aves are in too.

McSweeny · 11-11-2003, 06:47 PM

i'm in

i too would like some form of group play this year

Raven Hawk · 11-11-2003, 06:51 PM

Oooohhh! Just had a cool idea!

Run it like the World Cups in HT!

Top 4 finishers from last year(or from FM's ratings) get a bye. All others have to enter the qualifiers.

3 Weeks of qualifiers based off of FM's ratings, whittling it down to 12 qualifiers, plus 4 byes. 3 weeks of group play based off of qualifier results. Top 2 teams make it from each of 4 groups to the semifinals, ranked on their pts and goal diff., 3 weeks of playoffs. Total 3 qualifier, 3 group play, 3 playoff. We'd have to start it on the 31st of December, however.

It would accomodate 100 teams - 4 byes, 96 qualifiers.

Or we could do 2 qualifier 3 group play, 4 playoff. This would accomodate 104 teams. 8 byes, 96 qualifiers.

If we can't fill the qualifier slots, qualifier teams can have byes based off of FM's rankings. This would give the better teams an extra week to lose in the US Cup.

Raven Hawk · 11-11-2003, 06:53 PM

Dola. Screw it. I'm just going to start a poll.

Icy · 11-11-2003, 06:54 PM

Umm can a spaish team join the cup? worth it having in mind the expenses for playing at another country?

Celeval · 11-11-2003, 07:01 PM

I'm in. But be warned - my team sucks.

Blade6119 · 11-11-2003, 07:07 PM

Raven Hawk · 11-11-2003, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Icy
Umm can a spaish team join the cup? worth it having in mind the expenses for playing at another country?

No spaish teams can join, but we warmly welcome any Spanish teams that would like to join.

I'm just being the grammar bastard today. :o

daedalus · 11-11-2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven Hawk
No spaish teams can join, but we warmly welcome any Spanish teams that would like to join.

I'm just being the grammar bastard today. :o

Psssssst, RH . . . it's spelling bastard.

-Panther · 11-11-2003, 07:29 PM



my thoughts on the walkover are this:



once a team becomes a walkover, even for just one week, they forfeit all matches and 

lose 5-0 to every team, regardless if they've played or not. ie:



Group A



Schedule:



1. Ballers - Kickers, Strikers - Retards

2. Ballers - Strikers, Kickers - Retards

3. Ballers - Retards, Strikers - Kickers





team       played     goals     points

Ballers      0        0 - 0       0

Kickers      0        0 - 0       0

Strikers     0        0 - 0       0

Retards      0        0 - 0       0



1st round:



Ballers beats Kickers 3-2

Strikers beats Retards 1-0



team       played     goals     points

Ballers      1        3 - 2       3

Strikers     1        1 - 0       3

Kickers      1        2 - 3       0

Retards      1        0 - 1       0



second round:



Ballers ties Strikers 0-0

Kickers beats Retards 3-1



team       played     goals     points

Ballers      2        3 - 2       4

Strikers     2        1 - 0       4

Kickers      2        5 - 4       3

Retards      2        0 - 1       0



3rd round:



Retards doesn't book match, 5-0 walkover win for Ballers

Strikers beat Kickers 2-0



team       played     goals     points

Ballers      3        8 - 2       7

Strikers     3        3 - 0       7

Kickers      3        5 - 6       3

Retards      3        0 - 6       0



ignore games played against Retards and set them all to 5-0 wins



Strikers gets 4 goals added since he beat them 1-0 in week 1

Kickers gets 2 goals added and 1 removed since he won 3-1

Retards get reset to 0-15



team       played     goals     points

Strikers     3        7 - 0       7

Ballers      3        8 - 2       7

Kickers      3        7 - 5       3

Retards      3        0 - 15      0



that way, no one gets an unfair advantage as it becomes a matter of only doing better than 

the teams that matter.



as for the team that became the walkover, too bad. if you become a walkover in the national cup,

you're out of it regardless if you had good reasoning or not.

Icy · 11-11-2003, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven Hawk
No spaish teams can join, but we warmly welcome any Spanish teams that would like to join.

I'm just being the grammar bastard today. :o

LOL then i'm glad i'm Spanish and not spaish

Count on me then if foreign teams can join, i haven't any contact with my country team owners, i spend all my time at FOFC

Swamioms FC (119779)

daedalus · 11-11-2003, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Panther

Retards      0        0 - 0       0

Y'know, Panther . . . "Calibiri" isn't THAT hard to spell. My players HATE that nickname!

-Panther · 11-11-2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by daedalus
Y'know, Panther . . . "Calibiri" isn't THAT hard to spell. My players HATE that nickname!

yes but I told my psychologist I'd try to be nicer from now on and I figured calling you by your team name would be much more of an insult than Retards

saintjo · 11-11-2003, 08:15 PM

the st louis saints (71006) are in as well

Qwikshot · 11-11-2003, 08:20 PM

Ultra Nox are interested...

YoSoySean · 11-11-2003, 08:48 PM

I suppose the Ball Kickers are in. Any privledges for finishing 2nd the previous year?

mckerney · 11-11-2003, 08:50 PM

I'm in.

Aesyrqwe · 11-11-2003, 09:00 PM

White Sox Pride here..

-Aes-

daedalus · 11-11-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Panther
yes but I told my psychologist I'd try to be nicer from now on and I figured calling you by your team name would be much more of an insult than Retards

Hmmmmmmmm. I fear you may have a point here. Curses.

PilotMan · 11-11-2003, 09:23 PM

Damn its cold......That can only mean one thing.

The return of the Ice Storm! 70500

terpkristin · 11-11-2003, 10:03 PM

Um I thought there was going to be a poll attached to this one. Either way, I'll be in this year (last season I decided to skip it, and I miss my FOFC matches).

~tk "going out in the first round"

vex · 11-11-2003, 10:26 PM

Count the Sidekicks in. (71068)

FrogMan · 11-11-2003, 10:52 PM

the Dragons are in

FM

tucker rocky · 11-12-2003, 12:21 AM

Jacksonville Kickers are in.

Nyarlahotep · 11-12-2003, 12:25 AM

Arkham Avengers are in.

Hobbes- · 11-12-2003, 12:39 AM

i'm in

Coffee Warlord · 11-12-2003, 01:04 AM

What's an FOFC Cup without Galesburg doing what they do best?

We're not sure what exactly it is they do. But it's something alright!

antbacker · 11-12-2003, 01:04 AM

Anteaters are in!

sterlingice · 11-12-2003, 02:09 AM

-Panther, the problems with walkovers was this: it really biased your group if you had a walkover. Very few other games were 5-0 wins so those teams got huge advantages when choosing the "wild card" teams. The suggested remedy last year was to make it something more like 1-0 or 2-0 because 5-0 just set goal differentials out of whack.

I'm still on the fence about the FOFC Cup until we get a format. I'm really enjoying going international every week for friendlies so it all depends on how long it will take.

SI

Nyarlahotep · 11-12-2003, 02:20 AM

I really don't care too much about the actual score awarded, but I do think that if we get stuck with group play that one failure to schedule in time should cause walkovers to be awarded for the entire round.

Alf · 11-12-2003, 03:36 AM

Update : I will update the top post with teams names and IDs, so please Post your team name and ID when replying to this post.

fantastic flying froggies · 11-12-2003, 05:09 AM

Fantastic Flying Froggies are in for a 3rd year in a row. To get its ass kicked for the 3rd year in a row...

PS : Sterlingice, there are some non US teams in FOFC, so your issue about international games might be a moot point...

EDIT : Oops, forgot team ID : 175873

Breeze · 11-12-2003, 06:51 AM

I'm in, I'll be an easy win for someone.

Confederates (72127)

bigjdotcom01 · 11-12-2003, 07:04 AM

West Henrietta FC will be in.

deadrabbitsfc · 11-12-2003, 07:30 AM

Dead Rabbits FC (229456)

ausonny · 11-12-2003, 10:22 AM

Bees 70510

Back to defend our title!

Peaker · 11-12-2003, 10:27 AM

Peakers 70777

Katon · 11-12-2003, 11:08 AM

Forgot to put my team number above:

Lancre Wowhawks (57183)

11-11-2003, 05:40 PM	#2
DocHolliday69 n00b Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio	I am in this year again RN United 71071 Thanks Rob __________________ Victims.....aren't we all?

11-11-2003, 05:46 PM	#3
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	The Crawfish are in it and vow to win it this year. __________________ I had something.

11-11-2003, 06:13 PM	#7
DukeRulesMAB College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alexandria, VA	Frankfort United is, as always, in. __________________ FOBL: Where anyone not in IAP FOFL: I may be the commish, but it's still pretty good.

11-11-2003, 06:17 PM	#8
TonyR High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas	The Bearcats 71265 are in. __________________ XBox360 GamerTag - Tonyr76 Former HTer

11-11-2003, 06:31 PM	#11
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	Since it is an odd cup number and the Gargoyles have already won Cups 1 & 3, I figure that I would be favored to win Cup 5. I'm in! I would vote for Group Play as well. It keeps everybody in the cup a lot longer. However, as our teams get better, more people will be in US Cup longer, thus we will have less time to run the cup . . . After looking at the schedule I would say that the cup should start on January 7th (equivalent of 9th round in the cup or week 8 in league play). With an 8 week cup schedule, we could fit it in with the final being the Wednesday after Qualifiers. We could run the cup in a couple of different ways, depending on number of participants. I say that we stick to that schedule because, also if we start earlier, people may be out of town/away from their computers for the Holidays, so they may not have a chance to accept invites in time, etc . . . Proposal 1: 64 teams - Top 64 teams, who are not in US Cup when FOFC Cup starts AND have signed up for the FOFC Cup, based on FM's rankings. 16 groups of 4, top 2 from each group makes, playoffs of 32, which is single elimination. Total: 3 weeks group play, 5 weeks playoff. Proposal 2: All takers - Divide the teams up into groups of 4, arranged on FM's rankings. Unlimited # of groups, however top 2 teams from each group are not guaranteed. Top team is guaranteed to make playoffs of 32, second place teams fill in the 32 based on points and goal differential. Total 3 weeks group play, 5 weeks playoff. Let's hear some other ideas. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

11-11-2003, 05:56 PM	#5
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	The Lancre Wowhawks will be in.

11-11-2003, 06:06 PM	#6
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	I'd have to concur, that the group play was the most fun. The thing is, we have to plan it so far out. . . Last year we didn't, so a single elimination was the only way to go. Another thing...with our teams developing, we may have more than a few who last past 4 cup games.

11-11-2003, 06:22 PM	#9
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	After skipping last season's cup, I'd like to return - Manhattan Marauders 71399.

11-11-2003, 06:28 PM	#10
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	I'm in

11-11-2003, 06:39 PM	#12
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	Misfitz are in as always..... __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

11-11-2003, 06:44 PM	#13
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	We'd have to consider walkover's too. I remember last time, that was an issue. Some teams got 5-0 walkovers, and skated in, which, if we were an antagonistic bunch, would have caused strife. Still, the walk-over thing has to be addressed. I'm in favor of proposal 1, however, if there are enough signups, I think we should move to proposal 2. Starting with 1 does not exclude moving to 2 if there is enough interest. Oh, and the Aves are in too.

11-11-2003, 06:47 PM	#14
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	i'm in i too would like some form of group play this year

11-11-2003, 06:51 PM	#15
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	Oooohhh! Just had a cool idea! Run it like the World Cups in HT! Top 4 finishers from last year(or from FM's ratings) get a bye. All others have to enter the qualifiers. 3 Weeks of qualifiers based off of FM's ratings, whittling it down to 12 qualifiers, plus 4 byes. 3 weeks of group play based off of qualifier results. Top 2 teams make it from each of 4 groups to the semifinals, ranked on their pts and goal diff., 3 weeks of playoffs. Total 3 qualifier, 3 group play, 3 playoff. We'd have to start it on the 31st of December, however. It would accomodate 100 teams - 4 byes, 96 qualifiers. Or we could do 2 qualifier 3 group play, 4 playoff. This would accomodate 104 teams. 8 byes, 96 qualifiers. If we can't fill the qualifier slots, qualifier teams can have byes based off of FM's rankings. This would give the better teams an extra week to lose in the US Cup. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL Last edited by Raven Hawk : 11-11-2003 at 06:53 PM.

11-11-2003, 06:53 PM	#16
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	Dola. Screw it. I'm just going to start a poll. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

11-11-2003, 06:54 PM	#17
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Umm can a spaish team join the cup? worth it having in mind the expenses for playing at another country? __________________

11-11-2003, 07:01 PM	#18
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	I'm in. But be warned - my team sucks.

11-11-2003, 07:07 PM	#19
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	IN! __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

11-11-2003, 08:15 PM	#26
saintjo College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO	the st louis saints (71006) are in as well __________________ http://www.MaloMart.com Last edited by saintjo : 11-12-2003 at 08:34 AM.

11-11-2003, 08:20 PM	#27
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Ultra Nox are interested... __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

11-11-2003, 08:48 PM	#28
YoSoySean High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: PA	I suppose the Ball Kickers are in. Any privledges for finishing 2nd the previous year?

11-11-2003, 08:50 PM	#29
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm in.

11-11-2003, 09:00 PM	#30
Aesyrqwe High School JV Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indiana	White Sox Pride here.. -Aes- __________________ Go Bears! #8 Grossman #33 Tillman

11-11-2003, 09:23 PM	#32
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Damn its cold......That can only mean one thing. The return of the Ice Storm! 70500 __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Last edited by PilotMan : 11-15-2003 at 03:03 AM.

11-11-2003, 10:03 PM	#33
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Um I thought there was going to be a poll attached to this one. Either way, I'll be in this year (last season I decided to skip it, and I miss my FOFC matches). ~tk "going out in the first round" __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

11-11-2003, 10:26 PM	#34
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Count the Sidekicks in. (71068) Last edited by vex : 11-12-2003 at 11:49 AM.

11-11-2003, 10:52 PM	#35
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	the Dragons are in FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

11-12-2003, 12:21 AM	#36
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Jacksonville Kickers are in.

11-12-2003, 12:25 AM	#37
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	Arkham Avengers are in.

11-12-2003, 12:39 AM	#38
Hobbes- High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Philly	i'm in __________________ Owner of Fockers (71987) Death to 8 Ball!

11-12-2003, 01:04 AM	#39
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	What's an FOFC Cup without Galesburg doing what they do best? We're not sure what exactly it is they do. But it's something alright!

11-12-2003, 01:04 AM	#40
antbacker Mascot Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle, WA	Anteaters are in! __________________ Anteaters IV.57

11-12-2003, 02:09 AM	#41
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	-Panther, the problems with walkovers was this: it really biased your group if you had a walkover. Very few other games were 5-0 wins so those teams got huge advantages when choosing the "wild card" teams. The suggested remedy last year was to make it something more like 1-0 or 2-0 because 5-0 just set goal differentials out of whack. I'm still on the fence about the FOFC Cup until we get a format. I'm really enjoying going international every week for friendlies so it all depends on how long it will take. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

11-12-2003, 02:20 AM	#42
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	I really don't care too much about the actual score awarded, but I do think that if we get stuck with group play that one failure to schedule in time should cause walkovers to be awarded for the entire round.

11-12-2003, 03:36 AM	#43
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Update : I will update the top post with teams names and IDs, so please Post your team name and ID when replying to this post. __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

11-12-2003, 05:09 AM	#44
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Fantastic Flying Froggies are in for a 3rd year in a row. To get its ass kicked for the 3rd year in a row... PS : Sterlingice, there are some non US teams in FOFC, so your issue about international games might be a moot point... EDIT : Oops, forgot team ID : 175873 __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink Last edited by fantastic flying froggies : 11-12-2003 at 05:13 AM.