OT: Xbox Live and XSN

SackAttack · 11-22-2003, 06:49 PM

Just curious how many of us are on Xbox Live, and of those, how many have an XSN-enabled title (NFL Fever 2004, NBA Inside Drive 2004, NHL Rivals 2004, Amped 2, Links 2004, and Top Spin are the current titles).

I have Top Spin and Links 2004, and I was thinking of setting up an FOFC tournament in one of the two, but I wanted to know first if there was enough interest on the board to warrant doing so.

Any takers?

Mota · 11-22-2003, 06:58 PM

I have Links 2004, NHL Rivals 2004, NBA Inside Drive 2004, and will soon have Top Spin and Amped 2.

Would love to play in a FOF Links tournament.

My gamertag is Mota

SackAttack · 11-22-2003, 07:01 PM

Mota - excellent. Links has been my addiction lately, I'm always glad to find new people to play against.

EDIT: My gamertag is Rincewind.

Calis · 11-22-2003, 07:01 PM

Bah, wish I could get broadband here, and then get Live.

I think Top Spin would be a frigging blast to have a tourney in.

Hopefully in a few months I'll be in!

Pumpy Tudors · 11-22-2003, 07:10 PM

Got Top Spin here, although it's rented through GameFly. I'll keep it long enough to play in the tournament.

gstelmack · 11-22-2003, 07:17 PM

I have an Xbox, but no XSN games. If an FOFC tournament is started, that may be incentive enough for me to pick one up.

SackAttack · 11-22-2003, 07:30 PM

It seems nearly certain that there'll be a tournament of *some* kind - you can have as few as 8 players, or as many as 64, depending on the game in question.

It's just a matter of scope, and I'd like to pull off a huge one, if we can.

SackAttack · 11-22-2003, 08:14 PM

Just a quick dolabump before i head off to work. If SkyDog or any of the mods read this, any chance we can get a sticky on it until we get a better idea of what kind of participation a tournament would get? Thanks.

SirFozzie · 11-22-2003, 11:48 PM

I'm getting TopSpin for Christmas, count me in.

SackAttack · 11-23-2003, 01:12 AM

Get Links too, you lazy bum. We can fit more people in a Links tournament.

SirFozzie · 11-23-2003, 01:14 AM

Hey. I'm not made of money

I'll try

kingnebwsu · 11-23-2003, 01:44 AM

My current XBL compatible games are...

Top Spin
Links 2004
ESPN NBA
NHL 2k3
Music Mixer
Rainbow Six 3 (FANTASTIC!)

I think that's about all. Gamertag is kingneb, and I'm usually on after 1 AM EST (I've been RS3'ing a lot lately). Feel free to add me to your lists

Pumpy Tudors · 11-23-2003, 01:39 PM

I was GOING to get MotoGP 2 for my next GameFly rental, but I may have to bump Links up in the queue instead. We shall see.

SackAttack · 11-23-2003, 11:43 PM

No BIG rush on that, because we still need enough players to fill a decently sized field anyhow.

The 'volunteers' so far:

Links 2004 definites - SackAttack, kingnebwsu, Mota
Links 2004 'maybes' - gstelmack, Pumpy Tudors, SirFozzie

Top Spin definites - SackAttack, kingnebwsu, Pumpy Tudors, Sir Fozzie, Mota
Top Spin 'maybes' - Calis, gstelmack

C'mon, folks, the more the merrier. An 8 player Links tournament wouldn't be nearly as much fun as, say, a 64 player tournament. Step right up, step right up!

JeeberD · 11-23-2003, 11:51 PM

I really need to get X-Box Live. Hmmm, I think that my girlfriend can do without one $50 christmas present, don't ya think?

SackAttack · 11-24-2003, 12:08 AM

I won't tell if you won't.

SirFozzie · 11-24-2003, 01:11 AM

If she bugs you, just tell her it's better then spending that $50 at stripclubs, gambling, or whatever

Rich1033 · 11-24-2003, 01:25 AM

I have an XBox, but I dont plan on getting Live until sometime in January when I move.

What Im curious about is how long a games shelf life is in online play? Im sure I can hop on and find people to play me in a recent sports game or RB6-3, but how easy will it be to find people who are playing something like crimson skies in a month or two?

I guess Im just wondering if the number of gamers on live can keep up with the number of games that are now being live enabled.

SackAttack · 11-24-2003, 02:38 AM

Depends on the title. Regular sports games tend to have a shorter shelf life than those with the ability for online tournaments (such as the XSN games). Shooters are more cyclical. New shooter comes out, the casual community tends to migrate. The exceptions, I'd wager, will be Rainbow Six 3 and Halo 2.

As far as vehicular combat games like Crimson Skies, keep in mind that MechAssault still has a robust community. As long as significant content downloads are made available for those sort of games to keep them fresh, they'll keep getting played.

FWIW, Crimson Skies puts MechAssault to shame online.

Rich1033 · 11-24-2003, 03:36 AM

Thanks SA, that sounds good. I have never played online, but I will be looking forward to testing it out in a month or two.

SackAttack · 11-24-2003, 03:57 AM

No problem. Just keep in mind that the support an online title gets from the developer is as important as the quality of the game itself. If there's no consistent, significant content download, it's probably going to do a slow fade. Keeping an online game fresh is essential to maintaining the userbase.

There are some titles, I suspect, that will have smaller userbases (Links 2004), but perhaps a longer consistent lifespan because of new course downloads, and such.

We'll see how it shakes out.

SirFozzie · 11-24-2003, 04:02 AM

It's interesting that folks are beginning to sell updates via XBox Live, as the new XBox game Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix is making online "Song Packs" available via online purchase and download (5 songs for 5 dollars)

SackAttack · 11-24-2003, 04:32 AM

I'm not completely convinced that pay-to-download content can consistently keep communities fresh. DDR is probably a bit different from the norm there.

I'll be interested to see if Links charges for course downloads, or if they do it the way DDR is doing it and release several courses as a pack for $$.

kingnebwsu · 11-24-2003, 04:54 AM

Paying to DL those songs? I guess I wouldn't mind if I could pick the songs from previous DDR releases. But since I have a legal DDR emulator on my PC with virtually all DDR songs ever made, I won't be getting Ultramix...and I kinda wanted to

SirFozzie · 11-24-2003, 05:24 AM

They have to pay for bandwidth, storage and all the like, and they couldn't charge less then $5.

Plus it's all legal

Bearcat729 · 11-24-2003, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SackAttack
Depends on the title. Regular sports games tend to have a shorter shelf life than those with the ability for online tournaments (such as the XSN games). Shooters are more cyclical. New shooter comes out, the casual community tends to migrate. The exceptions, I'd wager, will be Rainbow Six 3 and Halo 2.

As far as vehicular combat games like Crimson Skies, keep in mind that MechAssault still has a robust community. As long as significant content downloads are made available for those sort of games to keep them fresh, they'll keep getting played.

FWIW, Crimson Skies puts MechAssault to shame online.

Since you brought up shooters. Has anyone played Counterstrike on the XBox yet?

I enjoyed playing it in the PC but cheaters made the game boring, and it looked like it could be a good game to play on XBox Live and possibly a game that could be popular in a SOCOM type of way

SackAttack · 11-24-2003, 03:53 PM

not yet, but soon.

And before the thread gets completely jacked, re-bump for more 'volunteers!'

Mota · 11-24-2003, 05:49 PM

I played some Counter Strike yesterday.

Pretty good. I would only recommend it if you intend on playing online with this game, the single player is lacking.

The weird thing is that yesterday I was always either the best or the worst player in the game, never in the middle. Strange how that can happen.

SackAttack · 11-25-2003, 10:48 PM

Up, up, damn spot. C'mon, we can't have a couple thousand members and only six Xbox Live users in the bunch, can we?

11-22-2003, 07:01 PM	#3
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Mota - excellent. Links has been my addiction lately, I'm always glad to find new people to play against. EDIT: My gamertag is Rincewind. Last edited by SackAttack : 11-22-2003 at 07:02 PM.

11-22-2003, 07:10 PM	#5
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Got Top Spin here, although it's rented through GameFly. I'll keep it long enough to play in the tournament. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

11-22-2003, 07:17 PM	#6
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I have an Xbox, but no XSN games. If an FOFC tournament is started, that may be incentive enough for me to pick one up. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

11-22-2003, 11:48 PM	#9
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I'm getting TopSpin for Christmas, count me in. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-23-2003, 01:14 AM	#11
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Hey. I'm not made of money I'll try __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-22-2003, 06:58 PM	#2
Mota College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001	I have Links 2004, NHL Rivals 2004, NBA Inside Drive 2004, and will soon have Top Spin and Amped 2. Would love to play in a FOF Links tournament. My gamertag is Mota

11-22-2003, 07:01 PM	#4
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Bah, wish I could get broadband here, and then get Live. I think Top Spin would be a frigging blast to have a tourney in. Hopefully in a few months I'll be in!

11-22-2003, 07:30 PM	#7
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	It seems nearly certain that there'll be a tournament of some kind - you can have as few as 8 players, or as many as 64, depending on the game in question. It's just a matter of scope, and I'd like to pull off a huge one, if we can.

11-22-2003, 08:14 PM	#8
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Just a quick dolabump before i head off to work. If SkyDog or any of the mods read this, any chance we can get a sticky on it until we get a better idea of what kind of participation a tournament would get? Thanks.

11-23-2003, 01:12 AM	#10
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Get Links too, you lazy bum. We can fit more people in a Links tournament.

11-23-2003, 01:44 AM	#12
kingnebwsu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	My current XBL compatible games are... Top Spin Links 2004 ESPN NBA NHL 2k3 Music Mixer Rainbow Six 3 (FANTASTIC!) I think that's about all. Gamertag is kingneb, and I'm usually on after 1 AM EST (I've been RS3'ing a lot lately). Feel free to add me to your lists

11-23-2003, 01:39 PM	#13
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I was GOING to get MotoGP 2 for my next GameFly rental, but I may have to bump Links up in the queue instead. We shall see. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

11-23-2003, 11:43 PM	#14
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	No BIG rush on that, because we still need enough players to fill a decently sized field anyhow. The 'volunteers' so far: Links 2004 definites - SackAttack, kingnebwsu, Mota Links 2004 'maybes' - gstelmack, Pumpy Tudors, SirFozzie Top Spin definites - SackAttack, kingnebwsu, Pumpy Tudors, Sir Fozzie, Mota Top Spin 'maybes' - Calis, gstelmack C'mon, folks, the more the merrier. An 8 player Links tournament wouldn't be nearly as much fun as, say, a 64 player tournament. Step right up, step right up!

11-23-2003, 11:51 PM	#15
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I really need to get X-Box Live. Hmmm, I think that my girlfriend can do without one $50 christmas present, don't ya think? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

11-24-2003, 12:08 AM	#16
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	I won't tell if you won't.

11-24-2003, 01:11 AM	#17
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	If she bugs you, just tell her it's better then spending that $50 at stripclubs, gambling, or whatever __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-24-2003, 01:25 AM	#18
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	I have an XBox, but I dont plan on getting Live until sometime in January when I move. What Im curious about is how long a games shelf life is in online play? Im sure I can hop on and find people to play me in a recent sports game or RB6-3, but how easy will it be to find people who are playing something like crimson skies in a month or two? I guess Im just wondering if the number of gamers on live can keep up with the number of games that are now being live enabled.

11-24-2003, 02:38 AM	#19
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Depends on the title. Regular sports games tend to have a shorter shelf life than those with the ability for online tournaments (such as the XSN games). Shooters are more cyclical. New shooter comes out, the casual community tends to migrate. The exceptions, I'd wager, will be Rainbow Six 3 and Halo 2. As far as vehicular combat games like Crimson Skies, keep in mind that MechAssault still has a robust community. As long as significant content downloads are made available for those sort of games to keep them fresh, they'll keep getting played. FWIW, Crimson Skies puts MechAssault to shame online.

11-24-2003, 03:36 AM	#20
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	Thanks SA, that sounds good. I have never played online, but I will be looking forward to testing it out in a month or two.

11-24-2003, 03:57 AM	#21
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	No problem. Just keep in mind that the support an online title gets from the developer is as important as the quality of the game itself. If there's no consistent, significant content download, it's probably going to do a slow fade. Keeping an online game fresh is essential to maintaining the userbase. There are some titles, I suspect, that will have smaller userbases (Links 2004), but perhaps a longer consistent lifespan because of new course downloads, and such. We'll see how it shakes out.

11-24-2003, 04:02 AM	#22
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	It's interesting that folks are beginning to sell updates via XBox Live, as the new XBox game Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix is making online "Song Packs" available via online purchase and download (5 songs for 5 dollars) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-24-2003, 04:32 AM	#23
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	I'm not completely convinced that pay-to-download content can consistently keep communities fresh. DDR is probably a bit different from the norm there. I'll be interested to see if Links charges for course downloads, or if they do it the way DDR is doing it and release several courses as a pack for $$.

11-24-2003, 04:54 AM	#24
kingnebwsu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	Paying to DL those songs? I guess I wouldn't mind if I could pick the songs from previous DDR releases. But since I have a legal DDR emulator on my PC with virtually all DDR songs ever made, I won't be getting Ultramix...and I kinda wanted to

11-24-2003, 05:24 AM	#25
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	They have to pay for bandwidth, storage and all the like, and they couldn't charge less then $5. Plus it's all legal __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-24-2003, 03:53 PM	#27
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	not yet, but soon. And before the thread gets completely jacked, re-bump for more 'volunteers!'

11-24-2003, 05:49 PM	#28
Mota College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001	I played some Counter Strike yesterday. Pretty good. I would only recommend it if you intend on playing online with this game, the single player is lacking. The weird thing is that yesterday I was always either the best or the worst player in the game, never in the middle. Strange how that can happen.

11-25-2003, 10:48 PM	#29
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Up, up, damn spot. C'mon, we can't have a couple thousand members and only six Xbox Live users in the bunch, can we?

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