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Old 11-29-2003, 03:07 AM   #1
Alf
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Location: Rennes, France
Week 3 Youth Pull

I just pulled a 18yo inad defender. So far, this season, I only puuled crap... Not even a passable one
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Old 11-29-2003, 07:18 AM   #2
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Emile Lefevre (21400682)
20 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: France
Assessed value: 78 000 Euro
Wage: 940 Euro/week
Owner: BZH Celtics FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: weak

for sale at 10 000€
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:22 AM   #3
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19 y/o, inad defender
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:49 AM   #4
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Shit i just started a new thread at same time, can i delete it?

My young sqad finally reached Solid!! my first pick was an inadecuate keeper that could be ok for my TS, not really a clown but near.

Rubén Ortigas
103 000 Euro, 19 years, passable form
A pleasant guy who is tranquil and honest.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor
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Old 11-29-2003, 09:30 AM   #5
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Félix Uruapan (21405921) 18 years, passable form, healthy A controversial person who is balanced and honest. Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities. Nationality: England Assessed value: 48_667_ £ Wage: 573_£/week Stamina: _ poor_ Goaltending: _ disastrous_ Playmaking: _ solid_ Passing: _ poor_ Winger: _ inadequate_ Defending: _ poor_ Scoring: _ inadequate_ Set Pieces: _ weak_

I think Hattrick's name database is a bit off. This is an Englishman? Well, I was looking for a new trainee anyway.
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Old 11-29-2003, 10:40 AM   #6
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Hattrick's name database is off?

You mean that American Xiu-Yin-Zhou isn't really an American!?
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Old 11-29-2003, 07:48 PM   #7
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Bob Smith (21421328)

18 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Stamina: wretched Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate

His stamina sucks, but he's a keeper
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:00 PM   #8
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Billy Stevens (21421010)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and upright.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 381 000 US$
Wage: 2 440 US$/week
Owner: Eugene Emeralds
Warnings: 0


Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: solid
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

On sale for 200K
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:02 PM   #9
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Ooh I think we have a candidate for the weekly "I HATE YOU!" award, NAIWF! A SOLID with decent scoring and set pieces?!?!?!

This was my pull:
Marty Pfeiffer (21421019)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 55 000 US$
Wage: 760 US$/week
Owner: Real Terps FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: solid
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor

His stamina sucks, too, but I figure I'll see how he fits with my squad (HO! put him as a reserve defender or a defensive wing back, he's my reserve defender this week, crappy stamina and all).

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Old 11-29-2003, 08:02 PM   #10
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Juán Nelson (21421771)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 23 000 US$
Wage: 600 US$/week
Owner: Scranton Slime
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: weak
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

I've had worse. At least he's sellable.
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:06 PM   #11
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Originally posted by terpkristin
Ooh I think we have a candidate for the weekly "I HATE YOU!" award, NAIWF! A SOLID with decent scoring and set pieces?!?!?!

This was my pull:
Marty Pfeiffer (21421019)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 55 000 US$
Wage: 760 US$/week
Owner: Real Terps FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: solid
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor

His stamina sucks, too, but I figure I'll see how he fits with my squad (HO! put him as a reserve defender or a defensive wing back, he's my reserve defender this week, crappy stamina and all).

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Uh, you'd be much, much better off selling him. A 17 year old solid would sill go for a bit at this time of the season. So, I'd say sell him and buy an older solid with cash to spare.

And stamina doesn't matter that much for defenders. Could cause a special event, but it's not all that common.
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:07 PM   #12
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Dola, unless you train defense of course
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:09 PM   #13
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FIRED

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SOOOO FRIGGIN FIRED!!
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:09 PM   #14
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17yo POS best stat - weak = FIRED
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:11 PM   #15
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TP6, you think I should sell, eh?
Any idea of a good starting price?

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Old 11-29-2003, 08:16 PM   #16
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Well he would make a very good trainee. 4 seasons ago I pulled a solid defender a week after this who made the U20 team.

Of course that wouldn't happen these days, but I'ms ure he would sell for more than an older solid. Don't know about a starting price though. $400k maybe?
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:19 PM   #17
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18 y/o inadequate passing, inadequate defending no other skills to mention.

I listed him for $0. If he doesn't sell, he gets fired.
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:25 PM   #18
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Not bad, not the best, but not bad... I'll probably keep him in the rotation for friendlies, at least until he pops to passable playmaking... Double passable will make him more interesting on the market...

Nice name though

Jackie Cherry
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: Canada
Assessed value: 62 000 C$
Wage: 1 320 C$/week
Owner: Cerio's Dragons FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: passable

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Old 11-29-2003, 08:33 PM   #19
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Good thing he has a good personality...

Jorge Block (21422711)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is tranquil and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 1 000 US$
Wage: 500 US$/week
Owner: South Bay Saints
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
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Old 11-29-2003, 08:46 PM   #20
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Someone sent me Ockham's Razors YP. I sent him over to Hardee's.
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Old 11-29-2003, 09:28 PM   #21
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Location: Little Rock, AR
Rory Bellamy (21436288)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is tranquil and upright.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 135 000 US$
Wage: 1 220 US$/week
Owner: Golden Eagles FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Why could he not have been two years younger? Oh well, he stays on my team as a starting winger.
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Old 11-29-2003, 09:35 PM   #22
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Gil España (21423473)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A nasty fellow who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 414 000 US$
Wage: 2 740 US$/week
Owner: Jacksonville Kickers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: solid
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: weak

Presently in limbo, don't know what to do with him in my now crowded keeper rotation. The owner, gm and coaches of the Kickers are in a closed door meeting as we speak. Details later.

To add if he was 17, it would be an open and shut case. He would stay, and probably my older would go.

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Old 11-29-2003, 09:50 PM   #23
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Quote:
Originally posted by hulsey
Didn't even take the time to get his name. Just promoted him....fired him......life goes on.

I'm going into my fourth week with an inad youth squad. When can I expect it to pop to passable?


I vaguely remember that from:
inadequate->passable ~6 weeks
passable->solid is 8-10 weeks
solid->excellent is 16 weeks

Those are with a solid coach. And are just estimates from my Excel (!!!) file tracking my squad week-to-week...

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Old 11-29-2003, 10:41 PM   #24
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Quote:
Originally posted by terpkristin
I vaguely remember that from:
inadequate->passable ~6 weeks
passable->solid is 8-10 weeks
solid->excellent is 16 weeks

Those are with a solid coach. And are just estimates from my Excel (!!!) file tracking my squad week-to-week...

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I do not think coaching skill affects youth sqaud levels.
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Old 11-29-2003, 10:44 PM   #25
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Expect to see this guy on the transfer list within the week.

Lon Thomas (21450981)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 42 000 US$
Wage: 700 US$/week
Owner: Long Island Pride
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: passable

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0
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Old 11-29-2003, 10:50 PM   #26
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I should have just lit a cigar with my 2K, it would have had better use.
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Old 11-30-2003, 12:06 AM   #27
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Dave Pratt (21452246)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Speciality: Head

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 2 000 US$
Wage: 500 US$/week
Owner: Bearcats
Warnings: 0

Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: disastrous
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak
At least his Head specialty will come in handy at McDs...Fired.
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Old 11-30-2003, 12:19 AM   #28
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well I couldnt get two back to back 17yo's Its a shame too because this is a good player

Eugene Lilly (21452380)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is fiery and upright.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 121 000 US$
Wage: 1 140 US$/week
Owner: Oklahoma City Rednecks
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0



Im not sure If i should sell him or not. going to get at least one match in with him.
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Old 11-30-2003, 12:36 AM   #29
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Location: Prior Lake, MN
Hector Sotelo (21450584)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 26 000 US$
Wage: 620 US$/week
Owner: Prior Lake Thunder
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

Not bad, anyone know how much he might go for?
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Old 11-30-2003, 01:38 AM   #30
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Meh. Maybe I'll get my 2k back by listing him:

Herb James (21451231)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 19 000 US$
Wage: 580 US$/week
Owner: Gasmasters
Warnings: 0

Stamina: wretched Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor
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Old 11-30-2003, 02:07 AM   #31
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Lu Ngai-ngai (21453629)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.


Speciality: Quick

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 10 000 US$
Wage: 540 US$/week
Owner: Naperville United
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0
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Old 11-30-2003, 02:07 AM   #32
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17 yo Passable scorer with not much else. On the wire for 25k (I'm a wishful thinker )
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Old 11-30-2003, 02:38 AM   #33
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i so deserve this.....


Edward Kaufman (21454120)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 115 000 US$
Wage: 1 040 US$/week
Owner: Maniacal Misfitz
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: weak
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:20 AM   #34
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Location: Louisiana
Mike Knight (21421235)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 207 000 US$
Wage: 1 500 US$/week
Owner: Louisiana Cyclones
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched



I think I will keep him around to be my #8 trainee
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:42 AM   #35
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Beau Eller (21455458)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is calm and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 125 000 US$
Wage: 1 100 US$/week
Owner: RN United
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak


Going to sell him, any idea how much I could get? I was thinking atleast 200 thou
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:45 AM   #36
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Ugh...I have to stop looking in this thread.
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Old 11-30-2003, 04:06 AM   #37
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Seriously...this week is like FOFC Jackpot for youth pulls.
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Old 11-30-2003, 11:36 AM   #38
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Bill Henry (21474175)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and infamous.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 73 000 US$
Wage: 860 US$/week
Owner: Frankfort United
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: solid
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate


Nice! Say hello to my new starting wingback (and 1/2 winger trainee).

I figure since he's 18, I'm not losing a boatload of cash here, would that be a correct assumption?
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Old 11-30-2003, 11:41 AM   #39
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not that much, and since your training wingers he is a good wingback trainee.

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Old 11-30-2003, 11:45 AM   #40
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Run of bad luck continues:

Hugh Lester (21474481)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is calm and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: Canada
Assessed value: 4 000 C$
Wage: 1 000 C$/week
Owner: Walk-In Special
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched
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Old 11-30-2003, 11:53 AM   #41
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What about if for next week we also post our Young Squad level? that way we could check how it affects the YP lottery.
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Old 12-01-2003, 05:29 AM   #42
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Location: Sunny South of France
Yann Bordes (21414155)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: France
Assessed value: 24 000 Euro
Wage: 620 Euro/week
Owner: Fantastic Flying Froggies
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: formidable


I have no idea what to make of a player like this. I have no plans for using him, anybody know what he'd sell for ?


EDIT to answer Icy's post : YS level = excellent
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Old 12-01-2003, 08:32 AM   #43
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Ooh I think we have a candidate for the weekly "I HATE YOU!" award, NAIWF! A SOLID with decent scoring and set pieces?!?!?!


I'd think he'd have won a life time achievement award in that category by now...
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