OT: Something bothering me regarding Texas Tech/Navy

HornedFrog Purple · 12-31-2003, 03:01 AM

and I am not sure why...

At the end of the TT/Navy game, Tech scored and the majority of the offense decided to do this for a celebration. In case you didn't see it:

They got in a circle after the touchdown and dropped the football in the middle of the circle. Then they acted like the football was a grenade and fell down and mimiced an explosion all falling down "dead" when it hit the turf.

Am I offbase here or is this "celebration" completely inappropriate against a military academy. Not only that it was on national TV and I am still thinking about it even hours after it happened.

I am ex-military myself so that may have something to do with it, so I thought I would ask what others thought.

thealmighty · 12-31-2003, 03:05 AM

In the times we live in, that is just sick, imho.

Especially against a team whose members will soon be overseas putting their lives on the line.

Ragone · 12-31-2003, 03:05 AM

man.. if i had been a navy player.. i would have went last boy scout on their collective ass'es

Hurst2112 · 12-31-2003, 03:08 AM

I am not ex military so I say that it wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't a grenade, and nobody died. It's just a game.

I didn't know the navy used grenades.

Course, I tend to laugh at very rude things. A lot of things are funny.

Die Hand die Verletzt · 12-31-2003, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by Hurst2112
I am not ex military so I say that it wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't a grenade, and nobody died. It's just a game.

I didn't know the navy used grenades.

Course, I tend to laugh at very rude things. A lot of things are funny.

My father set up radio communications in Vietnam. He was Navy. He carried grenades and a rifle.

I've seen the grenade dance before. Its not very funny. Not very clever. I don't know if it should be considered overly offensive. I guess it depends on how you look at it.

I don't think the guys were implying that they hoped people would get killed by grenades, or anything.

Suicane75 · 12-31-2003, 06:42 AM

I'm sure they weren't implying that they were hopeing people would get hurt but it showed so little class it's unreal.
Andre Ware (I think that's who it was) was going nuts as was the one of the other announcers. All I could think about was how lucky they were that it WAS Navy because those kids are mentaly strong enough and have enough discipline to come over and go after the TT players, I mean really, they throw a meaningless TD late in the game and do the grenade dance? Idiots.

Leonidas · 12-31-2003, 07:06 AM

The word classless comes to mind.

I bet they were just dissappointed they weren't playing Air Force. They probably had another dance ready where one guy spreads his arms out like a plane and the guy who scored pretends to shoot him down with a Stinger Missile.

Suicane75 · 12-31-2003, 07:11 AM

One more thing, I bet that If the Navy players went nuts and actually went after some TT players that this would be a very big story this morning and those idiots who participated in the dance would be under alot of fire, but because Navy just walked away and let it slide it gets no play.

cthomer5000 · 12-31-2003, 07:31 AM

Probably more moronic than intentionally rude. I'm fine with that celebration in general, but I think it's completely inappropriate against a military academy.

Samdari · 12-31-2003, 07:45 AM

When soldiers are dying daily to improvised grenades, this is inappropriate against anyone.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-31-2003, 08:30 AM

HFP - I suspect it bothered you because it was both inappropriate and classless.

Same reason it set off the announcers.
Same reason it set me off watching here at home.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 08:41 AM

Okay, who knew that Pumpy was on his way with the following comment?

Class is overrated.

I can understand that some people might not like what the Texas Tech players did. I can understand that some people DO like what they did. The only thing about these situations that bothers me is that some people like to consider that such things are blatantly, across-the-board, unarguably offensive and inappropriate, and there are very few actions on a football field that fit that description.

I'd bet that the Texas Tech players did not congregate at any point and say "let's do a grenade thing because we're playing the military." I'm sure they would've done the same thing if they were playing Miami. From my unscientific observation, I've noticed that many people are offended when they read more into an action than the action itself. People look for meanings and agendas that aren't necessarily there.

Look, I'm not saying that you have to defend these kids or even excuse them. Feel free to sit at home and shake your head. Feel free to tell others that you find it offensive. I don't want people's opinions suppressed. I just see fewer and fewer people giving others the benefit of the doubt because they're always looking for the hot button.

I'm glad the media is staying out of this one, especially after the whole Kellen Winslow "I'm a soldier" thing got (in my opinion) blown out of proportion.

Fritz · 12-31-2003, 08:41 AM

it is not inappropriate because of a fake grenade or fake death.

it is inappropriate because it was planned.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 08:46 AM

I'm hoping (probably in vain) that a new breed of announcers will step in sometime in the next 10-15 years and shrug off or applaud planned and "classless" celebrations. First, I tend to love the celebrations. Second, I want to see the reactions of all the people who complain about them right now. Maybe they'll change the channel and watch cricket instead.

WSUCougar · 12-31-2003, 08:47 AM

Okay, how about this, Pumpy: the Tech players should have said "let's not do a grenade thing because we're playing the military."

Their coach was embarassed by it in the post-game interview, and went out of his way to praise the class and hard-playing character of the Navy players. (Coach also seemed a little dim - anyone else notice that?).

scooper · 12-31-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Pumpy Tudors
I'm hoping (probably in vain) that a new breed of announcers will step in sometime in the next 10-15 years and shrug off or applaud planned and "classless" celebrations. First, I tend to love the celebrations. Second, I want to see the reactions of all the people who complain about them right now. Maybe they'll change the channel and watch cricket instead.

They do exist. Watch professional "wrestling."

JonInMiddleGA · 12-31-2003, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Pumpy Tudors
First, I tend to love the celebrations.

Speaks volumes.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by WSUCougar
Okay, how about this, Pumpy: the Tech players should have said "let's not do a grenade thing because we're playing the military."

Good point.

Still, I submit that the only reason they DIDN'T think that way was because they did not recognize a correlation between that particular action and the military. Do some people wish they did? Of course. I accept that. To expect them to recognize that correlation is to suggest that all those guys should follow the same thought processes as the people who didn't like their actions.

See, this is where all these discussions get hairy for me. As I said before, I have no problem with people being upset or offended by others. It happens. A lot of times, though, when some people complain about things, it comes off like they're trying to tell people how others should think. I don't think it's my place to argue that people shouldn't be offended. As I said, I just don't see as many people giving the benefit of the doubt about any situation, including this one.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by JonInMiddleGA
Speaks volumes.

Indeed. It says I'm different from you. Anything else you may infer from that could be mere speculation.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by scooper
They do exist. Watch professional "wrestling."

I'm not much into soap operas, but I guess I could give it a try.

Fritz · 12-31-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by WSUCougar
Okay, how about this, Pumpy: the Tech players should have said "let's not do a grenade thing because we're playing the military."

can someone elaborate on this for me? I just don't get it.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 09:14 AM

I wonder if I can get my forum title changed to "Classless Malcontent."

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 09:16 AM

So the Chad Johnson machine gun celebration is probably out too then...

Ksyrup · 12-31-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by rkmsuf
So the Chad Johnson machine gun celebration is probably out too then...

But only if playing the New York Mafiosos.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 09:22 AM

I saw Wesley Walls do a celebration when he played for the Panthers. It looked like he was bird hunting. I suppose that wouldn't fly if he was playing against Tennessee.

Ha ha. "Wouldn't fly." I don't crack me up.

Edit: There's a lot of hunting in Tennessee, though it may or may not be bird hunting. I have officially become a parody of myself.

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 09:24 AM

I'm partial to The Worm. Hopefully no one is offended by that other than hard core Electric Boogaloo fans...

Leonidas · 12-31-2003, 09:28 AM

This all goes along with those morons out there that like to equate football to war. I'm sure that's the genesis for all this and not some deliberate slam on the Naval Academy. Still it shows a lack of good judgement.

I am not offended by it, just dissappointed there are those out there who trivialize war in such a way by comparing it with sports. Sorry, but it ain't in the same ballpark.

DeToxRox · 12-31-2003, 09:29 AM

Tech's coach said afterwards that he was disgusted with that celebration and that his team would hear about it.

From the sounds of it, spring workouts are going to be a bitch.

Ksyrup · 12-31-2003, 09:35 AM

What about NcNabb's weekly TD celebrations in honor of Michael Jackson? That should offend someone.

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
What about NcNabb's weekly TD celebrations in honor of Michael Jackson? That should offend someone.

I've yet to see one...what does do? Seems like it would be hard to mimic "jammin in the bed"...

Leonidas · 12-31-2003, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
What about NcNabb's weekly TD celebrations in honor of Michael Jackson? That should offend someone.

Now just because McNabb pulls a blanket out from under the goal post and asks a kid from the crowd to come out and join him the endzone is no reason to be offended.

Ksyrup · 12-31-2003, 09:38 AM

Last week, he did the Thriller zombie move. I don't know what it was the week before that, but I read someone questioning why he would continue to do it, so I assume it was either the same thing or the moonwalk or something "trademarked" by Jackson. Maybe the "hollow nose."

ISiddiqui · 12-31-2003, 09:38 AM

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I submit that the only reason they DIDN'T think that way was because they did not recognize a correlation between that particular action and the military.

Totally agree. I bet they didn't put the celebration with the military together and would have done it if it was anyone. I have no problems with the celebration.

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
Last week, he did the Thriller zombie move. I don't know what it was the week before that, but I read someone questioning why he would continue to do it, so I assume it was either the same thing or the moonwalk or something "trademarked" by Jackson. Maybe the "hollow nose."

Perhaps he likes men, likes to be manhandled...

Pumpy Tudors · 12-31-2003, 09:44 AM

Funny how I've gotten myself into a discussion about class while I'm wearing an Arsenal shirt. Goodness.

WSUCougar · 12-31-2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
can someone elaborate on this for me? I just don't get it.

More than happy to.

I was responding to Pumpy Tudor's assertion that the Tech players had not intentionally targeted their celebration at the Navy players (as military). My point is that such an assertion (IMO) misplaces the burden of "inappropriateness" on those who witnessed the action rather than on its perpetrators. My feeling is that the Tech players should have been more aware of what such an action might entail, rather than simply plunging ahead with what is an inane little routine for the sake of a little TV time. To me, it's indicative of the me-first attitude that has overtaken the sports world.

Clear enough?

ice4277 · 12-31-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Pumpy Tudors
Funny how I've gotten myself into a discussion about class while I'm wearing an Arsenal shirt. Goodness.

Well if that is the case, your defense of the issue should just be that you didn't see it happen in the first place

cuervo72 · 12-31-2003, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
Last week, he did the Thriller zombie move.

I actually thought it was pretty damned funny. McNabb doing a bad Thriller dance.

I missed most of the Navy/TT game, but did hear some of it on the way home on the radio, I believe the Navy broadcast. I was just wondering who the color guy was...most definitely did NOT have a radio voice, that's for darned sure. Sounded like he knew his stuff, but the delivery was awful.

Draft Dodger · 12-31-2003, 10:38 AM

I've said this before: I say, bring back the end zone celebrations - bring back the Fun Bunch. Bring back the Icky Shuffle and the California Quake.

but my rule - celebration can only take place in the end zone (no running to midfield), and can only involve the 11 players on the field when the score happened. Dance away.

(but anything involving death - grenades, throat cutting, guns - should not be allowed, regardless of the opponent).

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 10:40 AM

How about the Red Foxx heart attack? Would that offend cardiac patients?

JonInMiddleGA · 12-31-2003, 10:54 AM

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I bet they didn't put the celebration with the military together and would have done it if it was anyone.

Then they're fucking morons who have no business in a college classroom.

judicial clerk · 12-31-2003, 11:05 AM

This celebration was done in the commercials for Any Given Sunday.

Has anybody done a celebration ala Fred Sanford heart attack?

I like the one where the dud starts the chainsaw and cuts down the goal post. Damn, I am a doofus.

MikeVick7 · 12-31-2003, 01:03 PM

Let's not forget that Tech also tried a flee-flicker with about four minutes left in the game while up 14 as well. So Leach may have been disgusted with their antics...but he's the guy running the team and he's the same guy that allowed his offensive coordinator to call that play.

Die Hand die Verletzt · 12-31-2003, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by MikeVick7
Let's not forget that Tech also tried a flee-flicker with about four minutes left in the game while up 14 as well. So Leach may have been disgusted with their antics...but he's the guy running the team and he's the same guy that allowed his offensive coordinator to call that play.

I can understand running that play. This is the last game his team will have for some time, so I can understand trying to score and go out on an even better not.

Well, now that I think about it, a flea flicker does seem a little much. But a 14 point lead can be washed away in 4 minutes. Its happened before.

Poli · 12-31-2003, 01:32 PM

It's plain dumb. I suppose we're lucky the team didn't bring out cell phones and call their families.

I suppose we're lucky they didn't put on a Private Jessica Lynch re-enactment.

At least it wasn't a ship sinking or aircraft crashing.

Still, when will it ever end?

Doubtful it ever will.

HornedFrog Purple · 12-31-2003, 03:13 PM

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it is not inappropriate because of a fake grenade or fake death.

it is inappropriate because it was planned.

I think that is the focus of my problem with it. Sure, if it was spontaneous it would be one thing. I just find it sad in a way that someone (maybe a senior) didn't step up and say "hey maybe this isn't such a good idea considering the circumstances."

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So the Chad Johnson machine gun celebration is probably out too then...

Well let's play a what if. What if one of the players on the other teams best friend, relative etc was gunned down before the game and you as the other team knew about it. What would you think about it?

Now these are different scenarios in actuality but the theme is in my opinion the same. The point I am trying to make is you should take the circumstances into account.

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
I think that is the focus of my problem with it. Sure, if it was spontaneous it would be one thing. I just find it sad in a way that someone (maybe a senior) didn't step up and say "hey maybe this isn't such a good idea considering the circumstances."

Well let's play a what if. What if one of the players on the other teams best friend, relative etc was gunned down before the game and you as the other team knew about it. What would you think about it?

Now these are different scenarios in actuality but the theme is in my opinion the same. The point I am trying to make is you should take the circumstances into account.

So they knew someday one of the Navy boys is bound to be blown up by a grenade?

People think way too much about this stuff...

Don't ever buy a military student Call of Duty...they may get offended cuz soldiers die in it...insensitive game companies...

WSUCougar · 12-31-2003, 03:22 PM

Yeah! Good one!

HornedFrog Purple · 12-31-2003, 03:26 PM

No, your line is just a little further than mine, and that is fine which is why I brought the whole thing up in the first place.

I would bet that they did know that some Midshipmen did lose their lives in the Middle East theatre. I am not thinking way too much about it, I see it for what I believe it is...tasteless and inappropriate.

rkmsuf · 12-31-2003, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
No, your line is just a little further than mine, and that is fine which is why I brought the whole thing up in the first place.

I would bet that they did know that some Midshipmen did lose their lives in the Middle East theatre. I am not thinking way too much about it, I see it for what I believe it is...tasteless and inappropriate.

That's fair...I just took it as kids and something kids would do and not put a whole lot of thought into it...

12-31-2003, 03:05 AM	#2
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	In the times we live in, that is just sick, imho. Especially against a team whose members will soon be overseas putting their lives on the line. __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

12-31-2003, 03:08 AM	#4
Hurst2112 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis	I am not ex military so I say that it wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't a grenade, and nobody died. It's just a game. I didn't know the navy used grenades. Course, I tend to laugh at very rude things. A lot of things are funny. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/longliveanalog

12-31-2003, 06:42 AM	#6
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I'm sure they weren't implying that they were hopeing people would get hurt but it showed so little class it's unreal. Andre Ware (I think that's who it was) was going nuts as was the one of the other announcers. All I could think about was how lucky they were that it WAS Navy because those kids are mentaly strong enough and have enough discipline to come over and go after the TT players, I mean really, they throw a meaningless TD late in the game and do the grenade dance? Idiots. Last edited by Suicane75 : 12-31-2003 at 06:42 AM.

12-31-2003, 07:06 AM	#7
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	The word classless comes to mind. I bet they were just dissappointed they weren't playing Air Force. They probably had another dance ready where one guy spreads his arms out like a plane and the guy who scored pretends to shoot him down with a Stinger Missile. __________________ Molon labe

12-31-2003, 07:45 AM	#10
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	When soldiers are dying daily to improvised grenades, this is inappropriate against anyone. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

12-31-2003, 03:05 AM	#3
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	man.. if i had been a navy player.. i would have went last boy scout on their collective ass'es

12-31-2003, 07:11 AM	#8
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	One more thing, I bet that If the Navy players went nuts and actually went after some TT players that this would be a very big story this morning and those idiots who participated in the dance would be under alot of fire, but because Navy just walked away and let it slide it gets no play.

12-31-2003, 08:30 AM	#11
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	HFP - I suspect it bothered you because it was both inappropriate and classless. Same reason it set off the announcers. Same reason it set me off watching here at home. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-31-2003, 08:41 AM	#12
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Okay, who knew that Pumpy was on his way with the following comment? Class is overrated. I can understand that some people might not like what the Texas Tech players did. I can understand that some people DO like what they did. The only thing about these situations that bothers me is that some people like to consider that such things are blatantly, across-the-board, unarguably offensive and inappropriate, and there are very few actions on a football field that fit that description. I'd bet that the Texas Tech players did not congregate at any point and say "let's do a grenade thing because we're playing the military." I'm sure they would've done the same thing if they were playing Miami. From my unscientific observation, I've noticed that many people are offended when they read more into an action than the action itself. People look for meanings and agendas that aren't necessarily there. Look, I'm not saying that you have to defend these kids or even excuse them. Feel free to sit at home and shake your head. Feel free to tell others that you find it offensive. I don't want people's opinions suppressed. I just see fewer and fewer people giving others the benefit of the doubt because they're always looking for the hot button. I'm glad the media is staying out of this one, especially after the whole Kellen Winslow "I'm a soldier" thing got (in my opinion) blown out of proportion. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-31-2003, 08:41 AM	#13
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	it is not inappropriate because of a fake grenade or fake death. it is inappropriate because it was planned. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

12-31-2003, 08:46 AM	#14
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I'm hoping (probably in vain) that a new breed of announcers will step in sometime in the next 10-15 years and shrug off or applaud planned and "classless" celebrations. First, I tend to love the celebrations. Second, I want to see the reactions of all the people who complain about them right now. Maybe they'll change the channel and watch cricket instead. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-31-2003, 08:47 AM	#15
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Okay, how about this, Pumpy: the Tech players should have said "let's not do a grenade thing because we're playing the military." Their coach was embarassed by it in the post-game interview, and went out of his way to praise the class and hard-playing character of the Navy players. (Coach also seemed a little dim - anyone else notice that?). __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

12-31-2003, 09:14 AM	#22
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I wonder if I can get my forum title changed to "Classless Malcontent." __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-31-2003, 09:16 AM	#23
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	So the Chad Johnson machine gun celebration is probably out too then... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-31-2003, 09:22 AM	#25
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I saw Wesley Walls do a celebration when he played for the Panthers. It looked like he was bird hunting. I suppose that wouldn't fly if he was playing against Tennessee. Ha ha. "Wouldn't fly." I don't crack me up. Edit: There's a lot of hunting in Tennessee, though it may or may not be bird hunting. I have officially become a parody of myself. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor. Last edited by Pumpy Tudors : 12-31-2003 at 09:24 AM.

12-31-2003, 09:24 AM	#26
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I'm partial to The Worm. Hopefully no one is offended by that other than hard core Electric Boogaloo fans... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-31-2003, 09:28 AM	#27
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	This all goes along with those morons out there that like to equate football to war. I'm sure that's the genesis for all this and not some deliberate slam on the Naval Academy. Still it shows a lack of good judgement. I am not offended by it, just dissappointed there are those out there who trivialize war in such a way by comparing it with sports. Sorry, but it ain't in the same ballpark. __________________ Molon labe

12-31-2003, 09:29 AM	#28
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Tech's coach said afterwards that he was disgusted with that celebration and that his team would hear about it. From the sounds of it, spring workouts are going to be a bitch.

12-31-2003, 09:35 AM	#29
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	What about NcNabb's weekly TD celebrations in honor of Michael Jackson? That should offend someone. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-31-2003, 09:38 AM	#32
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Last week, he did the Thriller zombie move. I don't know what it was the week before that, but I read someone questioning why he would continue to do it, so I assume it was either the same thing or the moonwalk or something "trademarked" by Jackson. Maybe the "hollow nose." __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-31-2003, 09:44 AM	#35
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Funny how I've gotten myself into a discussion about class while I'm wearing an Arsenal shirt. Goodness. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-31-2003, 10:38 AM	#39
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I've said this before: I say, bring back the end zone celebrations - bring back the Fun Bunch. Bring back the Icky Shuffle and the California Quake. but my rule - celebration can only take place in the end zone (no running to midfield), and can only involve the 11 players on the field when the score happened. Dance away. (but anything involving death - grenades, throat cutting, guns - should not be allowed, regardless of the opponent). __________________ Mile High Hockey

12-31-2003, 10:40 AM	#40
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	How about the Red Foxx heart attack? Would that offend cardiac patients? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-31-2003, 11:05 AM	#42
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	This celebration was done in the commercials for Any Given Sunday. Has anybody done a celebration ala Fred Sanford heart attack? I like the one where the dud starts the chainsaw and cuts down the goal post. Damn, I am a doofus.

12-31-2003, 01:03 PM	#43
MikeVick7 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ron, Mexico	Let's not forget that Tech also tried a flee-flicker with about four minutes left in the game while up 14 as well. So Leach may have been disgusted with their antics...but he's the guy running the team and he's the same guy that allowed his offensive coordinator to call that play. __________________ Hattrick - Seattle Reign (224367)

12-31-2003, 01:32 PM	#45
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	It's plain dumb. I suppose we're lucky the team didn't bring out cell phones and call their families. I suppose we're lucky they didn't put on a Private Jessica Lynch re-enactment. At least it wasn't a ship sinking or aircraft crashing. Still, when will it ever end? Doubtful it ever will. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-31-2003, 03:22 PM	#48
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Yeah! Good one! __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

12-31-2003, 03:26 PM	#49
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	No, your line is just a little further than mine, and that is fine which is why I brought the whole thing up in the first place. I would bet that they did know that some Midshipmen did lose their lives in the Middle East theatre. I am not thinking way too much about it, I see it for what I believe it is...tasteless and inappropriate. __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

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