Matt Hasselbeck - nice

Bonegavel · 01-04-2004, 02:08 PM

Matt is looking pretty spiffy in the second half. What are you thoughts on his future in the NFL? Boom or Bust?

korme · 01-04-2004, 02:10 PM

Havok · 01-04-2004, 02:18 PM

whats even more amazing is that Hasselbeck didn't make the pro bowl team yet Mcnabb did.

Compare they're numbers this season.....

Matt Hasselbeck SEA 3841 513 313 26 15 80 88.8

Donovan McNabb PHI 3216 478 275 16 11 59 79.6

Chalk one up for Rush......

WussGawd · 01-04-2004, 02:28 PM

Hasselbeck has very quietly had a good season this year. Holmgren has done a good job with developing him, and not giving up on him early.

Bonegavel · 01-04-2004, 02:36 PM

With the pressure on teams to play young QBs, I feel bad for them when they are seen as hopeless after only a few seasons. The old days, you didn't see a QB until his 5 or 6th year after he spent time studying behind number 1 - watching, learning, waiting.

Ryan Leaf may have even been good. Given time.

mckerney · 01-04-2004, 02:57 PM

Amazing that the refs refused to make the correct call without replay on the Hasselbeck 'fumble' without blowing a whistle, but are so quick on the gun when Green fumbles.

sabotai · 01-04-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Havok
whats even more amazing is that Hasselbeck didn't make the pro bowl team yet Mcnabb did.

No hype = No Pro-Bowl

Havok · 01-04-2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sabotai
No hype = No Pro-Bowl

Thats fair

Philliesfan980 · 01-04-2004, 03:58 PM

McNabb is the team leader for the #1 seed in the NFC. He has essentially nothing to work with on offense. Hasslebeck has a stud RB, and a nice core of WR's. Don't get me wrong, Hasselbeck is a above average QB, but if you put Mcnabb on that squad and you'd have something special.

The_herd · 01-04-2004, 04:00 PM

I don't think the players you have around you should really have much of an influence on who goes to an All-Star game. Its who had the better year, plain and simple.

Havok · 01-04-2004, 04:06 PM

i strongly disagree... Mcnabb is a good quarterback don't get me wrong. But there are quite a few guys in the NFL i'd take over him in a second. Just look at his career numbers.... they are above average but nothing special.

For a guy who's in 12 commercials every dam football game i watch, he should be putting up Manning or Mcnair numbers.

:Edit: quoted the wrong post

GrantDawg · 01-04-2004, 07:15 PM

I think McNabb is over-rated because he is black.

*ducks*

Eaglesfan27 · 01-04-2004, 07:25 PM

McNabb doesn't put up very flashy numbers but he leads his team to wins. What more could you want?

Tasan · 01-04-2004, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Eaglesfan27
What more could you want?

Flashy numbers AND wins.

Hey, you asked.

JPhillips · 01-04-2004, 09:28 PM

Maybe McNabb being overrated has something to do with his playing for one of the NFL's flagship franchises? Do you really think he would get this much press if he played in Cleveland or Detroit? Or maybe getting to the conference championship and winning the NFC East multiple times plays a part?

Of course I'm sure its easier to chalk it up as just a black thing, afterall that free good publicity certainly worked for Akili Smith.

yabanci · 01-04-2004, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Havok

Matt Hasselbeck SEA 3841 513 313 26 15 80 88.8

Donovan McNabb PHI 3216 478 275 16 11 59 79.6

Not trying to defend McNabb, but it's a bit closer when you factor in the rushing stats.

McNabb 71 355 5.0 TD=3 FD=26

Hasselbeck 36 125 3.5 TD=2 FD=10

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01-04-2004, 02:10 PM	#2
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	same

01-04-2004, 02:18 PM	#3
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	whats even more amazing is that Hasselbeck didn't make the pro bowl team yet Mcnabb did. Compare they're numbers this season..... Matt Hasselbeck SEA 3841 513 313 26 15 80 88.8 Donovan McNabb PHI 3216 478 275 16 11 59 79.6 Chalk one up for Rush...... __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

01-04-2004, 02:28 PM	#4
WussGawd College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy	Hasselbeck has very quietly had a good season this year. Holmgren has done a good job with developing him, and not giving up on him early. __________________ "I guess I'll fade into Bolivian." -Mike Tyson, after being knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Proud Dumba Elect of the "Biggest Dumba of FOFC Award" Author of the 2004 Golden Scribe Gold Trophy for Best Basketball Dynasty, It Rhymes With Puke.

01-04-2004, 02:36 PM	#5
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	With the pressure on teams to play young QBs, I feel bad for them when they are seen as hopeless after only a few seasons. The old days, you didn't see a QB until his 5 or 6th year after he spent time studying behind number 1 - watching, learning, waiting. Ryan Leaf may have even been good. Given time. __________________

01-04-2004, 04:00 PM	#10
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	I don't think the players you have around you should really have much of an influence on who goes to an All-Star game. Its who had the better year, plain and simple. __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

01-04-2004, 02:57 PM	#6
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Amazing that the refs refused to make the correct call without replay on the Hasselbeck 'fumble' without blowing a whistle, but are so quick on the gun when Green fumbles.

01-04-2004, 03:58 PM	#9
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	McNabb is the team leader for the #1 seed in the NFC. He has essentially nothing to work with on offense. Hasslebeck has a stud RB, and a nice core of WR's. Don't get me wrong, Hasselbeck is a above average QB, but if you put Mcnabb on that squad and you'd have something special.

01-04-2004, 04:06 PM	#11
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	i strongly disagree... Mcnabb is a good quarterback don't get me wrong. But there are quite a few guys in the NFL i'd take over him in a second. Just look at his career numbers.... they are above average but nothing special. For a guy who's in 12 commercials every dam football game i watch, he should be putting up Manning or Mcnair numbers. :Edit: quoted the wrong post __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it! Last edited by Havok : 01-04-2004 at 04:07 PM.

01-04-2004, 07:15 PM	#12
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I think McNabb is over-rated because he is black. ducks

01-04-2004, 07:25 PM	#13
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	McNabb doesn't put up very flashy numbers but he leads his team to wins. What more could you want? __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

01-04-2004, 09:28 PM	#15
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Maybe McNabb being overrated has something to do with his playing for one of the NFL's flagship franchises? Do you really think he would get this much press if he played in Cleveland or Detroit? Or maybe getting to the conference championship and winning the NFC East multiple times plays a part? Of course I'm sure its easier to chalk it up as just a black thing, afterall that free good publicity certainly worked for Akili Smith. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

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