I hope Oklahoma

[Primal]

I hope Oklahoma drops out of the Top 10. They look like shit the past 2 games and shouldn't even be playing in this game.

[MrBug708]

USC would bitchslap both of these teams

[Easy Mac]

So would Cal

[GoldenEagle]

Originally posted by MrBug708
USC would bitchslap both of these teams

You are kdding me right? USC shouldnt be on the same filed with these two teams. See, Califorinia.

The Pac-10 cant hold a jock to the Big 12 or SEC.

[MrBug708]

Originally posted by GoldenEagle
You are kdding me right? USC shouldnt be on the same filed with these two teams. See, Califorinia.

The Pac-10 cant hold a jock to the Big 12 or SEC.

LOL

IS that the same Big-12 that lost to the PAC-10 in a bowl game?

PAC-10 is 4-2 in bowl games. We all knew UCLA didn't belong so that's 4-1

[Primal]

USC > UM > OSU > KSU > OU

[Easy Mac]

Oklahoma>Colorado>Colorado State>Cal>USC

[JHandley]

Or how about this?

Notre Dame > WSU > Texas > KSU > OU

And Notre Dame is atleast 2 years from decent

[Primal]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Oklahoma>Colorado>Colorado State>Cal>USC

Quit that.... I'm the only one who can do that.

[tucker rocky]

Didn't USC beat Auburn, an SEC team.

USC and LSU is what it should be.

[JHandley]

or this...

Cal > VT > Miami > Florida State

This suggests that Cal is better than 2 BCS bowl teams, it suggests that Cal is better than 2 Conference winners.

Or it could suggest that anything can happen in college football and that pointing to one loss as proof that a team isn't good is just silly.

[TargetPractice6]

Originally posted by Primal
USC > UM > OSU > KSU > OU

Five degrees of USC?

[Easy Mac]

Didn't Oklahoma beat Alabama, an SEC team.

Oklahoma and LSU is what it should be.

Didn't Oklahoma beat UCLA, an PAC 10 team.

Oklahoma and USC is what it should be.

Didn't Minnesota beat Louisiana-Lafayette.

Minnesota and North Texas is what it should be.

What's your point?

[tucker rocky]

If LSU wins, I still think they should be co-champions with USC.
I wonder if that will happen, probably not.
They'll throw a wrench into that.

USC is by far the team that got screwed this time in the BCS, which by the way should be trashed and buried. A total joke of a system of deciding who is who.

[Primal]

See another Int.... Oklahoma has been overrated all season.

[VPI97]

Maybe, but LSU has been underrated all season

[tucker rocky]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Didn't Oklahoma beat Alabama, an SEC team.

Oklahoma and LSU is what it should be.

Didn't Oklahoma beat UCLA, an PAC 10 team.

Oklahoma and USC is what it should be.

Didn't Minnesota beat Louisiana-Lafayette.

Minnesota and North Texas is what it should be.

What's your point?

I make a simple comment, and I get raked through the coals by this guy!!
What a blankety blank he is!!

THAT IS MY POINT!!

[Primal]

Ohhh... just got interesting

[Easy Mac]

oh, you'd know if I raked you through the coals... and you'd like it.

[tucker rocky]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
oh, you'd know if I raked you through the coals... and you'd like it.

>>>>>>>>>>> J _ _ _ A _ _ !

[tucker rocky]

Originally posted by Easy Mac
oh, you'd know if I raked you through the coals... and you'd like it.

Nah, keep the rake and coals, you would like it better.

[JW]

USC = Al Gore.
LSU = George Bush.
Gore may have gotten more votes, and he may think he won and was robbed, but Bush is sitting in the White House.

Seriously, by the BCS rules, LSU is the BCS national champion. USC can claim the AP championship. Too bad the two won't get a chance to meet this season.

[Primal]

Originally posted by JW
USC = Al Gore.
LSU = George Bush.
Gore may have gotten more votes, and he may think he won and was robbed, but Bush is sitting in the White House.

Seriously, by the BCS rules, LSU is the BCS national champion. USC can claim the AP championship. Too bad the two won't get a chance to meet this season.

I feel dirty... you said Al Gore.

[digamma]

This is funny.

The three teams were practically indistinguishable before the bowls. LSU lost at home. USC lost to a team with six losses. OU got smacked by 28 points.

Short of a play-off, which for other reasons I do not favor, you have to have some way to pick two teams. These were the rules all teams agreed to before the season. It came out OU vs. LSU by a hair. They put on a pretty good show tonight.

Would a USC-LSU game have been better? More interesting? More just? More right?

Maybe so. Maybe not.

In the end, I say, here's to another great college football season!!! I'm counting the days until August.

[Primal]

I still thing the best way to pick 2 teams is.....

Play out the bowl games as normal (w/o the BCS) then select the 2 top teams to play the championship.

[GoldenEagle]

So Wasington State beat Texas....Texas lost three or four games this year. Oklahoma blew them out of the water.

[MrBug708]

PAC-10 always beats the Big-12 in bowl games. It's the way it goes

GE, what's the PAC-10's record vs the Big-12 and SEC the past 5 years? I'd be willing to be it favors the PAC-10

[MrBug708]

Pac 10 is 6-1 vs. the SEC over the last 5 years, and the Pac 10 is 13-13 against the Big 12 (including this bowl season).

Your move....

[digamma]

Originally posted by MrBug708
Pac 10 is 6-1 vs. the SEC over the last 5 years, and the Pac 10 is 13-13 against the Big 12 (including this bowl season).

Your move....

The ACC went 5-1 in bowls this season and won the Conference Championship Cup?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Conference USA went 1-4 in bowl games this year. That one win? The mighty Memphis Tigers! I declare Memphis the national champions!

[JMoore1]

Alright LSU gets a little glory . This will probably be only Nick Saban's little time to shine. If I haven't seen a bigger caucasian than that italian motha then I dont what...LOL that shit cracks me up... Their only little title to fame while oklahoma racks up 2005-2008....Hahahaha

[JMoore1]

Wait, Wait you didnt hear my....

BITCH ASS!

[GoldenEagle]

Originally posted by Pumpy Tudors
Conference USA went 1-4 in bowl games this year. That one win? The mighty Memphis Tigers! I declare Memphis the national champions!

Someone has seen the light.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally posted by MrBug708
Pac 10 is 6-1 vs. the SEC over the last 5 years, and the Pac 10 is 13-13 against the Big 12 (including this bowl season).

Your move....

Give me the list of SEC games.

[JHandley]

This is where college football gets itself in trouble. The strength of a conference has absolutely no influence on the strength of a particular team in the conference. None at all. It's futile to even attempt it.

Here's an analogy for ya. We'll do cars. What's your saying is that the Ford Focus is faster than a Hyundai Tiberon because Ford makes more models of faster cars than Hyundai does. You have to take the teams on their own merit, not the merit of the teams around them.

Now you can compare USC to OU to LSU all day long and make some great arguements for all teams involved, but once you bring in conference VS conference, the arguement loses value.

[Chief Rum]

Originally posted by GoldenEagle
Give me the list of SEC games.

Why don't you give him credit for coming up with stats? I have seen nothing from you but blatant bias.

Off the top of my head, UCLA swept Alabama in a home-and-home, and USC swept Auburn the past two years. I think Oregon beat the living crap out of Mississippi or Mississippi State a couple years ago.

This is just regular season, though--I find it hard to believe the two conferences have only played seven times all told in the past five seasons--if Bug is talking about bowl matchups only, none of the above games were bowls.

CR

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by tucker rocky
Didn't USC beat Auburn, an SEC team.

USC and LSU is what it should be.

Huh??? USC only went 2-6 in SEC play this year, and didn't play Auburn. Their only wins in The Conference were Vandy and Kentucky. Clemson even beat them by 46. I don't understand why they are in this discussion at all. The Gamecocks had a pretty embarrassing year overall.

[Axxon]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Huh??? USC only went 2-6 in SEC play this year, and didn't play Auburn. Their only wins in The Conference were Vandy and Kentucky. Clemson even beat them by 46. I don't understand why they are in this discussion at all. The Gamecocks had a pretty embarrassing year overall.

Skydog you big meanie, why are you raking tucker rocky over the coals like that?? He only made a simple comment and you treat him like this.

Can't you see that he's a bit...well, sensitive???

[sooner333]

OU did play the national champs to within 7 points, and had numerous (failed) opportunities to tie the game at the end. Granted, Jason White played awful, but the defense played well. In the end, no two-loss team had losses against better teams than Oklahoma, and they deserve to be #3 in the nation.

[Airhog]

I find this thread to be totally pointless. OU didnt play great, but the game wasnt really a blow-out. Im just glad that OU got a shot at another title. And OU wont drop out of the top 10. With stoops at the helm we will always be a great team.

[Balldog]

No two loss team got beat by 28 points either.

[kcchief19]

Missouri>Nebraska>Oklahoma State>Kansas State>Cal>USC

Missouri>Nebraska>Oklahoma State>Kansas State>Oklahoma

Missouri>Texas Tech>Mississipi>Florida>LSU

M-I-Z! Z-O-U!

[Noop]

I would just like to say Oklahoma lost that game before the fourth period most people outside of Norman knew LSU had won the game. Jason White is pure trash and he was exposed Pitt's receiver should have won the Hypesman. No OU should not be in the top five, top ten maybe but not top five they lost two games in a row.

[tucker342]

No, Colgate should be #1:

USC lost to Cal.
Cal lost to Kansas State.
Kansas State lost to Marshall.
Marshall lost to Toledo.
Toledo lost to Ball State.
Ball State lost to Western Michigan.
Western Michigan lost to Michigan State.
Michigan State lost to Louisiana Tech.
Louisiana Tech lost to Rice.
Rice lost to Navy.
Navy lost to Delaware.
Delaware lost to Northeastern.
Northeastern lost to Harvard.
Harvard lost to Columbia.
Columbia lost to Fordham.
Fordham lost to Lehigh.
Lehigh lost to Colgate.

and then for LSU:

LSU lost to Florida.
Florida lost to Florida State.
Florida State lost to Clemson.
Clemson lost to Maryland.
Maryland lost to Northern Illinois.
Northern Illinois lost to Toledo.
Toledo lost to Ball State.
Ball State lost to Western Michigan.
Western Michigan lost to Michigan State.
Michigan State lost to Louisiana Tech.
Louisiana Tech lost to Rice.
Rice lost to Navy.
Navy lost to Delaware.
Delaware lost to Northeastern.
Northeastern lost to Harvard.
Harvard lost to Columbia.
Columbia lost to Fordham.
Fordham lost to Lehigh.
Lehigh lost to Colgate.



come on people it's that obvious!

[sooner333]

I don't see how you could say that during the fourth quarter when OU had the ball inside the 20 down by 7 that the game was over. I don't think Jason White was the best player in the country, let alone the best QB, but before the trophy was given out, it's hard to take away from his accomplishments. Even in the loss vs. K-State he threw for 300 yards. He was awful in the LSU game, I don't know if it was his hand, but since he won't make excuses, I won't do it for him. Anyway, LSU is the champion, OU is #3 and its all been said and done and we'll see what happens next year.

Anyway, it's painfully clear Div. III Chowan should be #1 in light of the BCS being imperfect.

681 Chowan beat 637 Randolph Macon
beat 581 Emory & Henry
beat 634 Catholic
beat 586 La Salle
beat 518 Marist
beat 501 Central Conn
beat 298 Monmouth NJ
beat 283 Georgetown
beat 216 Lafayette
beat 222 Columbia
beat 147 Harvard
beat 117 Northeastern
beat 47 Delaware
beat 71 Navy
beat 104 Rice
beat 94 Louisiana Tech
beat 33 Michigan St
beat 10 Iowa
beat 21 Florida
beat 1 LSU

[GoldenEagle]

Originally posted by Chief Rum
Why don't you give him credit for coming up with stats? I have seen nothing from you but blatant bias.

You call just saying 6-1 is stats? Come on, CR. He has no link to this and no proof of it.

For all I know, all six wins could have came against Vandy.

Miss. St has had two down years in a row. Alabama has been down also for the past couple of years.

No one one from the Pac-10 has played a quaility team except USC, and we know they are good. But the rest of the Pac-10 can not back them up.

Hardly what I call stats.

[MrBug708]

Originally posted by GoldenEagle

Miss. St has had two down years in a row. Alabama has been down also for the past couple of years.

No one one from the Pac-10 has played a quaility team except USC, and we know they are good. But the rest of the Pac-10 can not back them up.

.

C'mon GE< I talk to u on AIM. Why would I bring up random stats? Besides, one of those games vs Bama was when Franchonie was there and according to HPF, he's an awesome coach.

6-1 is still 6-1

[MrBug708]

Dola

So Vandy is good enough for the SEC to beat up on (no other reason they are there, maybe to boast academics up as well) but they don't count vs OOC?

I actually can't recall the last time a PAC-10 played Vandy

[MrBug708]

Dola

vs SEC

Arizona 1-4-1
Arizona St 0-2
Cal 14-19
Oregon 3-4
OSU 0-10-1
USC 28-8-2
Stanford 3-1-1
UCLA 20-19-1
Washington 2-5
WSU 1-5

vs Big-12

Arizona 21-53-6 (ouch)
Arizona St 14-11
Cal 2-7
Oregon 11-23
OSU 12-21
USC 15-10-1
Stanford 9-9
UCLA 12-13-1
Washington 21-18-2
WSU 11-24


OPbviously, the SEC has benefited from not playing the PAC-10 as much and the Big-12 from playing tradional doormats in WSU and Arizona. For kicks, I checked out two teams, one from each of the SEC and Big-12 that are doormats and 2 more that are powerhouses. Vanderbilt is 0-1 vs the PAC-10. Ironically enough it was against UCLA. Baylor from the Big-12 is 12-10 vs the PAC-10. I was a little more intriqued so I checked out who they have played and beaten. I was a little more surprised to find that they are 6-2 vs the Washington schools. I picked Texas from the Big-12 as the school to compare. They are an alarming 20-12 vs the PAC-10 over the years. They are 11-3 vs the NW schools but 2-6 vs the SoCal schools. The recent tread for Texas vs the PAC-10 has been rather disappointing with losses in 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, and 2003 with wins coming in 1999 and 2002. From the SEC, I picked Florida. 6-4-1 vs the PAC-10 2-3 vs UCLA and 4-1-1 vs the rest of the PAC-10

[JMoore1]

All I have to say is NOOP shut up. Don't you play for Miami. We's warriors, we's warriors...please nigga maybe you should look into american history where the ndns were the true warriors...