midfield calculator

OldGiants · 01-08-2004, 10:23 AM

What do y'all think of this Midfield Rating Calculator?

http://www.killanmakilavuzu.com/ht/rating.php

It seems accurate for my team's actual ratings. And I've learned a bit about how the game works, it this thing is correct.

saintjo · 01-08-2004, 10:36 AM

looks pretty darn close for my ratings too.

vex · 01-08-2004, 10:44 AM

Nevermind me, just making an idiot of myself.

vex · 01-08-2004, 10:49 AM

If I went for the HIGHEST possible midfield for my team...."towards the middle, defensive forwarsd, offensive Cdentral Defender, AND I MOTS"...I would have:

Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Extra-Terr. (16.15)

However, with what I will be playing, I get this:

Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Brilliant (11.86)

OldGiants · 01-08-2004, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vexroid
If I went for the HIGHEST possible midfield for my team...."towards the middle, defensive forwarsd, offensive Cdentral Defender, AND I MOTS"...I would have:

Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Extra-Terr. (16.15)

However, with what I will be playing, I get this:

Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Brilliant (11.86)

Yes, I can jump up, too, doing that.

So it is true that if you play defensive forwards and/or offensive CDs they will count toward your MF rating? That's what I get out of this.

I understood about wingers to the middle from the rules, but the rules do not explicitly say the CD and forward stuff adds into the MF calculation.

Most of my players are passable PMs, so I could gain a quite a bit by doing this stuff. If I ever play a decent team in a real match, not the bozos in VI.83.

vex · 01-08-2004, 11:12 AM

I know the central defenders played offensively helped, I guess I didn't realize it with the forwards played defensively (which I would NEVER do).

TargetPractice6 · 01-08-2004, 03:36 PM

From HT Rules:

Individual orders
Central defender
Offensive - A certain amount of Midfield, less Defending

Forward
Defensive - A certain amount of Midfield, less Scoring

OldGiants · 01-08-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
From HT Rules:

Individual orders
Central defender
Offensive - A certain amount of Midfield, less Defending

Forward
Defensive - A certain amount of Midfield, less Scoring

I stand corrected. Good catch.

Matt2You · 01-08-2004, 03:47 PM

Away: Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Excellent (8.34)

Home: Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Formidable (9.27)

W/ Special orders of all players helping middle: Your Estimated Midfield Rating:
Brilliant (11.44)

Rates me a little high everywhere. Very tempted to try all players helping midfield... I've never hit above a formidable and that was once. (I rarely play to full strength)

saintjo · 01-08-2004, 03:58 PM

How much does a offensive center defender really hurt the defense? I am considering trying it as well, but im leary about what my defense rating would be.

Vince · 01-08-2004, 04:25 PM

So apparently, a POE MOTS gets me a World-Class MF, while a normal home Content game gets me an Outstanding MF. A little high, I suspect, as I've never gotten more than Formidable.

OldGiants · 01-08-2004, 06:05 PM

I wonder if its more accurate at the lower levels? I plan on using one winger to MF (instead of normal) in my league game. It is predicting I'll be inadequate, an all-time high, for me.

FrogMan · 01-08-2004, 06:12 PM

OG, I often use a winger toward middle, and it's an even better strategy if your opponent is predictable in setting his lineup, as about 80% of the non-FOFCers are out there, and he always leaves the same weak spot on defense. You can then put your attack on one side and completely ignore the other side and even put a pure inner mid in there.

and on the subject of the calculator, I saw a few weeks ago, and after testing it with my middies, I came out with the conclusion that it was overestimating my midfield, but that it may work for lower levels...

FM

OldGiants · 01-08-2004, 06:18 PM

YEah, I'm playing a guy who always plays his best defender on the left. I swapped my best winger/player to his weaker side and I'll attack there. Might be overdoing it as I beat him 2-0 while down two men and a third injured the first time around. However, he looks to be the only other coach who has a clue and he's one point up on me, so I need this to finish third. He also has no attack to speak of, and he tried out 3-5-2 for the first time in last night's friendly.

MacroGuru · 01-08-2004, 06:42 PM

I run a 3-4-3 with one of my forwards set defensive, he does boost my MF a bit, and since I started doing it, my MF went from Poor - weak to Inad-Pass

01-08-2004, 10:36 AM	#2
saintjo College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO	looks pretty darn close for my ratings too. __________________ http://www.MaloMart.com

01-08-2004, 10:44 AM	#3
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Nevermind me, just making an idiot of myself. Last edited by vex : 01-08-2004 at 10:46 AM.

01-08-2004, 03:47 PM	#9
Matt2You H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Saint Louis	Away: Your Estimated Midfield Rating: Excellent (8.34) Home: Your Estimated Midfield Rating: Formidable (9.27) W/ Special orders of all players helping middle: Your Estimated Midfield Rating: Brilliant (11.44) Rates me a little high everywhere. Very tempted to try all players helping midfield... I've never hit above a formidable and that was once. (I rarely play to full strength) __________________ Owner of Saint Louis Imperfect Assembly, III.5 USA Last edited by Matt2You : 01-08-2004 at 03:47 PM.

01-08-2004, 03:58 PM	#10
saintjo College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO	How much does a offensive center defender really hurt the defense? I am considering trying it as well, but im leary about what my defense rating would be. __________________ http://www.MaloMart.com

01-08-2004, 04:25 PM	#11
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	So apparently, a POE MOTS gets me a World-Class MF, while a normal home Content game gets me an Outstanding MF. A little high, I suspect, as I've never gotten more than Formidable. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-08-2004, 10:49 AM	#4
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	If I went for the HIGHEST possible midfield for my team...."towards the middle, defensive forwarsd, offensive Cdentral Defender, AND I MOTS"...I would have: Your Estimated Midfield Rating: Extra-Terr. (16.15) However, with what I will be playing, I get this: Your Estimated Midfield Rating: Brilliant (11.86)

01-08-2004, 11:12 AM	#6
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I know the central defenders played offensively helped, I guess I didn't realize it with the forwards played defensively (which I would NEVER do).

01-08-2004, 03:36 PM	#7
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	From HT Rules: Individual orders Central defender Offensive - A certain amount of Midfield, less Defending Forward Defensive - A certain amount of Midfield, less Scoring

01-08-2004, 06:05 PM	#12
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	I wonder if its more accurate at the lower levels? I plan on using one winger to MF (instead of normal) in my league game. It is predicting I'll be inadequate, an all-time high, for me. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

01-08-2004, 06:12 PM	#13
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	OG, I often use a winger toward middle, and it's an even better strategy if your opponent is predictable in setting his lineup, as about 80% of the non-FOFCers are out there, and he always leaves the same weak spot on defense. You can then put your attack on one side and completely ignore the other side and even put a pure inner mid in there. and on the subject of the calculator, I saw a few weeks ago, and after testing it with my middies, I came out with the conclusion that it was overestimating my midfield, but that it may work for lower levels... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

01-08-2004, 06:18 PM	#14
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	YEah, I'm playing a guy who always plays his best defender on the left. I swapped my best winger/player to his weaker side and I'll attack there. Might be overdoing it as I beat him 2-0 while down two men and a third injured the first time around. However, he looks to be the only other coach who has a clue and he's one point up on me, so I need this to finish third. He also has no attack to speak of, and he tried out 3-5-2 for the first time in last night's friendly. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

01-08-2004, 06:42 PM	#15
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I run a 3-4-3 with one of my forwards set defensive, he does boost my MF a bit, and since I started doing it, my MF went from Poor - weak to Inad-Pass __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

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