Jagr not so Capital Anymore

Travis · 01-23-2004, 03:48 PM

Another High Priced Ranger

Yes, still pending approval apparently, but yeesh!

sachmo71 · 01-23-2004, 03:52 PM

Wow. Just wow.

Subby · 01-23-2004, 03:53 PM

Good riddance, Puffnuts...

MikeVic · 01-23-2004, 03:54 PM

I didn't realize Carter was doing so bad.. I always thought he was good when he was in Edmonton.

ice4277 · 01-23-2004, 03:58 PM

un-frickin-believable

Philliesfan980 · 01-23-2004, 04:00 PM

Wow thats amazing. Two of the biggest busts in the league (lately) on the same team with Jagr and Lindros. Their payroll is going to be through the roof.

Maple Leafs · 01-23-2004, 04:01 PM

Jagr, Lindros, Bure, Kovalev... remember when NHL95 came out with trading, and you used to trade all the best players to one team and put them on the same line?

It's like that, except the Rangers still suck.

Subby · 01-23-2004, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

Wow thats amazing. Two of the biggest busts in the league (lately) on the same team with Jagr and Lindros. Their payroll is going to be through the roof.

Actually, the Rangers are only paying Jagr 24mm of the 44mm left on his deal (4 years remain). Plus he is agreeing to defer one million a year in salary.

So not so bad financially for the Rangers...

Pyser · 01-23-2004, 04:03 PM

as a devils fan, this sort of thing just makes my day.

the only thing better than watching the rangers sign players for crazy money and then under-perform horribly, is watching them ship those players off and once again excel for another team. anson carter will do well in washington, its just a fact.

if only the yankees spent as unwisely.

Maple Leafs · 01-23-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Actually, the Rangers are only paying Jagr 24mm of the 44mm left on his deal (4 years remain). Plus he is agreeing to defer one million a year in salary.

So not so bad financially for the Rangers...

But their payroll will now be over $80M, with over $40M of that guaranteed for next year. Keep in mind that the NHL swears there will be a salary cap in the mid-$30M range by next season.

Subby · 01-23-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

But their payroll will now be over $80M, with over $40M of that guaranteed for next year. Keep in mind that the NHL swears there will be a salary cap in the mid-$30M range by next season.

Ok, well that sucks

primelord · 01-23-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

But their payroll will now be over $80M, with over $40M of that guaranteed for next year. Keep in mind that the NHL swears there will be a salary cap in the mid-$30M range by next season.

Of course thatwon't be much of an issue since they won't be playing hockey at all next year.

I agree that could be a problem in the 2005-2006 season.

BishopMVP · 01-23-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Keep in mind that the NHL swears there will be a salary cap in the mid-$30M range by next season.

I hope this happens. Otherwise we could potentially be looking at a year or two or no NHL. To be honest, I already follow college hockey closer than the NHL, and a long strike wouldn't help.

Tekneek · 01-23-2004, 04:39 PM

Carter is streaky, and an underachiever. Kind of ironic that he is going back to the Capitals. He was just making it into the NHL when they sent him to Boston back in the day, it was a fairly big trade that involved Adam Oates and others.

Chief Rum · 01-23-2004, 04:40 PM

Jaromir Jagr, the Mo Vaughn of hockey. And they both end up in New York!

CR

Maple Leafs · 01-23-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Jaromir Jagr, the Mo Vaughn of hockey. And they both end up in New York!

No, Jagr's a lot of things, but he's not fat... yet.

Jagr's a really talented guy with a questionable work ethic who has trouble staying healthy. Once he got his big contract, he became a drain on the team and almost brought the franchise to its knees.

So in other words, more like the Vlad Guerrero of hockey.

(No, just kidding, I like Vlad...)

timmae · 01-23-2004, 06:02 PM

so is there any chance at all that jagr might be the playmaker that the rangers need to put this thing together for a run??? Nah, didn't think so either. Sad to have all that money, a huge market, and all star players and be that bad.....

Havok · 01-23-2004, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Good riddance, Puffnuts...

i second that

Draft Dodger · 01-23-2004, 07:48 PM

all they could get for the man is Anson Carter? yikes.

TazFTW · 01-23-2004, 08:35 PM

Jagr shouldn't have cut off the mullet.

Jagr in Pittsburgh with mullet = great player
Jagr in Washington without mullet = eh

Karim · 01-23-2004, 08:51 PM

Jaromir is no Mario Jr.

The Rangers will still miss the playoffs (I hope).

bbor · 01-23-2004, 10:39 PM

If the Rangers make the play-off i would'nt wanna play them.

Pumpy Tudors · 01-23-2004, 11:31 PM

Anson Carter isn't really that bad. It's the RANGERS who are that bad. He'll be fine when he gets back to Washington. As for Jagr, well, there is no sign that the Rangers will put it together. They might finally squeak back into the playoffs, but that doesn't necessarily mean much. The players on that team just don't know how to play AS a team. As much as I hate the Rangers, I really feel bad for Leetch, Nedved, and Dunham (soft spot for a former Devil), because I believe those guys in particular deserve a lot better than what they're getting. As for the rest of the Rangers? Screw 'em.

Pyser · 01-24-2004, 09:12 PM

hahahahahaha!!!!

9-1 ottawa over the rangers in jagrs first game.

i LOVE that trade!

signed,
a devils fan

Neuqua · 01-24-2004, 09:13 PM

I don't like hockey but when I saw that score on espn, i just shook my head and laughed.

bbor · 01-24-2004, 09:53 PM

ahahahah..Too Funny...Go Rangers

tucker342 · 01-24-2004, 10:51 PM

You know, I used to really like the Rangers.... but they've become the NY Mets of the NHL....

Vinatieri for Prez · 01-24-2004, 11:50 PM

How Glen Sather has kept his job is simply amazing. He must spend a lot of time on his knees. I never really liked the guy (the epitome of a cocky SOB). It becomes quite clear why he won so many cups as a coach (having Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Kurri, Lowe, Fuhr, etc.). Anyone who watches hockey, knows that team has needed defense and goaltending for some time now, but all he does is get overpriced forwards. With that payroll, they could have the best defense in the world and win countless cups, but he just doesn't get it. Can you believe that team can't even get into the playoffs, let alone win a cup. It is mind boggling!!

They deserve it after 1994 and beating my Canucks anyway. If there is a salary cap, they might as well pack it in. And it will be Sather's fault in putting them there.

Anthony · 01-25-2004, 10:27 AM

I live in NYC, Rangers have been like the Yankees these last several years in the sense that no matter which big-name player they get it just doesn't result in the big prize (well, at least the Yanks can get to the playoffs).

it's not so much the players you get, I'm starting to figure out - but your gameplan. ok, on hockey you can't have set plays like you can in basketball or football, but the strategy you employ, which players are the focal point of the offense/defense, the general setting up of the team - that's all on the coach.

look at the Wild or Thrashers. they are having a lot of success with rosters half as good as the Rangers, and it's because of the passion of their players and the gameplan. in a sport where your best players will get to take a max of 5 or 6 shots (on a really good night), it's senseless to load a team up the way the Rangers are. they need to change their offensive philosophy, then they'll win.

on paper they have the 1997-2002 All-Star team. there is no reason they shouldn't be scoring 4 or more goals a game. i guess real life ain't like video games, too bad Sather never got that memo.

01-23-2004, 04:40 PM	#15
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Jaromir Jagr, the Mo Vaughn of hockey. And they both end up in New York! CR __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-23-2004, 07:48 PM	#19
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	all they could get for the man is Anson Carter? yikes. __________________ Mile High Hockey

01-23-2004, 10:39 PM	#22
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	If the Rangers make the play-off i would'nt wanna play them. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

01-23-2004, 11:31 PM	#23
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Anson Carter isn't really that bad. It's the RANGERS who are that bad. He'll be fine when he gets back to Washington. As for Jagr, well, there is no sign that the Rangers will put it together. They might finally squeak back into the playoffs, but that doesn't necessarily mean much. The players on that team just don't know how to play AS a team. As much as I hate the Rangers, I really feel bad for Leetch, Nedved, and Dunham (soft spot for a former Devil), because I believe those guys in particular deserve a lot better than what they're getting. As for the rest of the Rangers? Screw 'em. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

01-24-2004, 09:13 PM	#25
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	I don't like hockey but when I saw that score on espn, i just shook my head and laughed. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

01-23-2004, 03:52 PM	#2
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Wow. Just wow.

01-23-2004, 03:53 PM	#3
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Good riddance, Puffnuts...

01-23-2004, 03:54 PM	#4
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I didn't realize Carter was doing so bad.. I always thought he was good when he was in Edmonton.

01-23-2004, 03:58 PM	#5
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	un-frickin-believable

01-23-2004, 04:00 PM	#6
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Wow thats amazing. Two of the biggest busts in the league (lately) on the same team with Jagr and Lindros. Their payroll is going to be through the roof.

01-23-2004, 04:01 PM	#7
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Jagr, Lindros, Bure, Kovalev... remember when NHL95 came out with trading, and you used to trade all the best players to one team and put them on the same line? It's like that, except the Rangers still suck.

01-23-2004, 04:03 PM	#9
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	as a devils fan, this sort of thing just makes my day. the only thing better than watching the rangers sign players for crazy money and then under-perform horribly, is watching them ship those players off and once again excel for another team. anson carter will do well in washington, its just a fact. if only the yankees spent as unwisely.

01-23-2004, 04:39 PM	#14
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Carter is streaky, and an underachiever. Kind of ironic that he is going back to the Capitals. He was just making it into the NHL when they sent him to Boston back in the day, it was a fairly big trade that involved Adam Oates and others.

01-23-2004, 06:02 PM	#17
timmae College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago	so is there any chance at all that jagr might be the playmaker that the rangers need to put this thing together for a run??? Nah, didn't think so either. Sad to have all that money, a huge market, and all star players and be that bad.....

01-23-2004, 08:35 PM	#20
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Jagr shouldn't have cut off the mullet. Jagr in Pittsburgh with mullet = great player Jagr in Washington without mullet = eh

01-23-2004, 08:51 PM	#21
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Jaromir is no Mario Jr. The Rangers will still miss the playoffs (I hope).

01-24-2004, 09:12 PM	#24
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	hahahahahaha!!!! 9-1 ottawa over the rangers in jagrs first game. i LOVE that trade! signed, a devils fan

01-24-2004, 09:53 PM	#26
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	ahahahah..Too Funny...Go Rangers __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

01-24-2004, 10:51 PM	#27
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	You know, I used to really like the Rangers.... but they've become the NY Mets of the NHL....

01-24-2004, 11:50 PM	#28
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	How Glen Sather has kept his job is simply amazing. He must spend a lot of time on his knees. I never really liked the guy (the epitome of a cocky SOB). It becomes quite clear why he won so many cups as a coach (having Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Kurri, Lowe, Fuhr, etc.). Anyone who watches hockey, knows that team has needed defense and goaltending for some time now, but all he does is get overpriced forwards. With that payroll, they could have the best defense in the world and win countless cups, but he just doesn't get it. Can you believe that team can't even get into the playoffs, let alone win a cup. It is mind boggling!! They deserve it after 1994 and beating my Canucks anyway. If there is a salary cap, they might as well pack it in. And it will be Sather's fault in putting them there.

01-25-2004, 10:27 AM	#29
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	I live in NYC, Rangers have been like the Yankees these last several years in the sense that no matter which big-name player they get it just doesn't result in the big prize (well, at least the Yanks can get to the playoffs). it's not so much the players you get, I'm starting to figure out - but your gameplan. ok, on hockey you can't have set plays like you can in basketball or football, but the strategy you employ, which players are the focal point of the offense/defense, the general setting up of the team - that's all on the coach. look at the Wild or Thrashers. they are having a lot of success with rosters half as good as the Rangers, and it's because of the passion of their players and the gameplan. in a sport where your best players will get to take a max of 5 or 6 shots (on a really good night), it's senseless to load a team up the way the Rangers are. they need to change their offensive philosophy, then they'll win. on paper they have the 1997-2002 All-Star team. there is no reason they shouldn't be scoring 4 or more goals a game. i guess real life ain't like video games, too bad Sather never got that memo.

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