Should I Sell Him?

Raven Hawk · 01-29-2004, 09:57 PM

The question is should I sell this guy now, or should I wait until his form gets back up to something respectable? Although I'd like to sell him to grab a new keeper, I fear that I will be pissing away money by selling him in such crappy form. My other option is to play him out of position until his form rises and I can sell him.

Any advice?

Hélder Pascoal
388 000 US$, 20 years, wretched form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina:	excellent	Keeper:	disastrous
Playmaking:	weak	Passing:	passable
Winger:	wretched	Defending:	wretched
Scoring:	outstanding	Set Pieces:	excellent

RPI-Fan · 01-29-2004, 10:19 PM

Unless purchasing a goalie right now will get you where you need to be (out of relegation or into promotion), wait.

Havok · 01-29-2004, 10:22 PM

yikes.... don't sell with wretched form

lytic · 01-29-2004, 11:25 PM

SELL NOW!!! BUY KEEPER NEXT MONDAY!!!

daedalus · 01-30-2004, 12:30 AM

I'd hold. He's at the skill level that should be bringing in big bucks, there's no good reason to waste possible money by selling him in a form dump.

What about the possibility of training him through 21? That ought to take him through to Magnificent? Or are you looking to go ahead and upgrade your goalkeeping now?

Raven Hawk · 01-30-2004, 11:37 AM

First off, thanks for all the input. I'll take lytics recommendation as something that I shouldn't do.

Since Helder has been in crap form, he has been my #4 striker, which means that I have 3 that are as good or better . . . and younger.

I am currently in 2nd place, 1 point out of an autopromote slot. I have a tougher schedule than the team in 1st place. I still have games against lytic and Hobbes- to worry about. However, I have clinched 2nd place.

I don't want to train him for another year, but it is possible. I'm not sure if I could get him to Magnificent by the end of next season.

Things that the Gargs need to do:

1. New keeper - Solid just doesn't cut it anymore.

2. Super Trainee - I want to get somebody good at the start of next season.
3. New Wing Back or CD - I have one good defender out of 3. Need to shore up the D.

I was hoping that prices would drop for keepers around now, so I could get a good one cheap. However, it is more likely that I'll be able to find my brilliant US keeper early next season.

DukeRulesMAB · 01-30-2004, 12:13 PM

I agree with all above, Wretched form will just kill his sale price. Work with him up to Brilliant, see where he is then

BlueMage · 01-31-2004, 06:46 PM

i'll buy him in that crappy state for 800k

Raven Hawk · 01-31-2004, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMage

i'll buy him in that crappy state for 800k

Lol . . .

I'm sure that if I listed him at 800k, you'd actually get in a bidding war over him with some of the other members on this board.

lytic · 02-01-2004, 02:36 PM

Maybe we can trade again?

I got some nice Ds and I need an offense since Jukka kills me.

Havok · 02-01-2004, 02:43 PM

wasn't your last trade for Jukka???? i'd think twice about trading with RavenHawk again

lytic · 02-02-2004, 10:10 AM

yeah... so I'd send him a mole for payback. Shhhhhhh!!!

Coffee Warlord · 02-02-2004, 10:23 AM

Hmm. I'd actually trade for him if his form goes back up, Raven.

Need a stud midfielder?

Raven Hawk · 02-02-2004, 11:46 AM

I'm always looking for D's and Middies.

However, I'm relatively particular about what I get, so it may be better if I just sell and buy my own.

What I'm looking for:

Wing Back: Outstanding Defense, Passable+ Winger, Inadequate+ PM, Weak+ Passing.
IM: Outstanding PM, Passable+ Defense, Passable+ Passing.
Keeper: Outstanding+

If anybody has anything like that (25 years old or younger), I'd love to work out a trade.

Otherwise, I have decided to hold Helder until the beginning of next season. I plan to put in at least 1 if not 2 weeks of SP training in the offseason this year. I figure that Helder could benefit from some of that.

Coffee Warlord · 02-02-2004, 03:31 PM

Hmm.

You *might* be interested in Hammond, though he's not all the way up to your standards. 25, Outstanding (5 weeks to brilliant, roughly) PM, inadequate defense.

If you're dead set on having both secondaries up there, nevermind.

Raven Hawk · 02-02-2004, 03:38 PM

Yeah,

I'm silly like that . . . I'll end up paying a fortune for my team because the ideal players don't exist in the US. I gotta stick to the plan. When planning a run at the Major League title from Div IV, you gotta stick to the plan.

Coffee Warlord · 02-02-2004, 03:44 PM

See, this guy is a home grown American! You know you want him.

lytic · 02-03-2004, 09:28 AM

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Like I'd ever let you out of IV!!!

Raven Hawk · 02-03-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lytic

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Like I'd ever let you out of IV!!!

The feeling is mutual lytic.

Hobbes- · 02-03-2004, 05:48 PM

and if one of you tries to sneak by the other.. I'll make sure ye remain.. muahah

01-29-2004, 10:19 PM	#2
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Unless purchasing a goalie right now will get you where you need to be (out of relegation or into promotion), wait. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

01-29-2004, 10:22 PM	#3
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	yikes.... don't sell with wretched form __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

01-30-2004, 11:37 AM	#6
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	First off, thanks for all the input. I'll take lytics recommendation as something that I shouldn't do. Since Helder has been in crap form, he has been my #4 striker, which means that I have 3 that are as good or better . . . and younger. I am currently in 2nd place, 1 point out of an autopromote slot. I have a tougher schedule than the team in 1st place. I still have games against lytic and Hobbes- to worry about. However, I have clinched 2nd place. I don't want to train him for another year, but it is possible. I'm not sure if I could get him to Magnificent by the end of next season. Things that the Gargs need to do: 1. New keeper - Solid just doesn't cut it anymore. 2. Super Trainee - I want to get somebody good at the start of next season. 3. New Wing Back or CD - I have one good defender out of 3. Need to shore up the D. I was hoping that prices would drop for keepers around now, so I could get a good one cheap. However, it is more likely that I'll be able to find my brilliant US keeper early next season. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

01-30-2004, 12:13 PM	#7
DukeRulesMAB College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Alexandria, VA	I agree with all above, Wretched form will just kill his sale price. Work with him up to Brilliant, see where he is then __________________ FOBL: Where anyone not in IAP FOFL: I may be the commish, but it's still pretty good.

02-01-2004, 02:36 PM	#10
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	Maybe we can trade again? I got some nice Ds and I need an offense since Jukka kills me. __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

01-29-2004, 11:25 PM	#4
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	SELL NOW!!! BUY KEEPER NEXT MONDAY!!! __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

01-30-2004, 12:30 AM	#5
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I'd hold. He's at the skill level that should be bringing in big bucks, there's no good reason to waste possible money by selling him in a form dump. What about the possibility of training him through 21? That ought to take him through to Magnificent? Or are you looking to go ahead and upgrade your goalkeeping now?

01-31-2004, 06:46 PM	#8
BlueMage Mascot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Lawrence, KS	i'll buy him in that crappy state for 800k

02-01-2004, 02:43 PM	#11
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	wasn't your last trade for Jukka???? i'd think twice about trading with RavenHawk again __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

02-02-2004, 10:10 AM	#12
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	yeah... so I'd send him a mole for payback. Shhhhhhh!!! __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

02-02-2004, 10:23 AM	#13
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Hmm. I'd actually trade for him if his form goes back up, Raven. Need a stud midfielder?

02-02-2004, 11:46 AM	#14
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	I'm always looking for D's and Middies. However, I'm relatively particular about what I get, so it may be better if I just sell and buy my own. What I'm looking for: Wing Back: Outstanding Defense, Passable+ Winger, Inadequate+ PM, Weak+ Passing. IM: Outstanding PM, Passable+ Defense, Passable+ Passing. Keeper: Outstanding+ If anybody has anything like that (25 years old or younger), I'd love to work out a trade. Otherwise, I have decided to hold Helder until the beginning of next season. I plan to put in at least 1 if not 2 weeks of SP training in the offseason this year. I figure that Helder could benefit from some of that. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

02-02-2004, 03:31 PM	#15
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Hmm. You might be interested in Hammond, though he's not all the way up to your standards. 25, Outstanding (5 weeks to brilliant, roughly) PM, inadequate defense. If you're dead set on having both secondaries up there, nevermind.

02-02-2004, 03:38 PM	#16
Raven Hawk College Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunderdome	Yeah, I'm silly like that . . . I'll end up paying a fortune for my team because the ideal players don't exist in the US. I gotta stick to the plan. When planning a run at the Major League title from Div IV, you gotta stick to the plan. __________________ Owner of The Shreveport Pride in The CFL

02-02-2004, 03:44 PM	#17
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	See, this guy is a home grown American! You know you want him.

02-03-2004, 09:28 AM	#18
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Like I'd ever let you out of IV!!! __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

02-03-2004, 05:48 PM	#20
Hobbes- High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Philly	and if one of you tries to sneak by the other.. I'll make sure ye remain.. muahah __________________ Owner of Fockers (71987) Death to 8 Ball!

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