FBCB: Put yourself in the game

[Groundhog]

Ok, here is my premise for this dynasty. I will follow the career of FOFC created players in the FBCB. Anyone who wants to be involved simply needs to submit their players info and I will add them to the recruit list.

The rules are as follows:

1) You are allowed 550 attribute points to spend on your players 16 different attributes.

2) You are allowed 300 potential points to spend on your players 12 attributes that are allowed this rating.

3) You must name your player, give him a position, a jersey number, a height, a weight and a home town and high school.

My thinking is that the 550/300 points should give us a batch of decent players that will wind up finding time on the mid/low tier teams.

I will follow the recruiting of your player and then, once he signs (or walks on ) I will follow their progress.

To get things rolling, here is my player:

#3 Angus Haynes
6'1 180lbs SG
Woolooware High School
Sydney, Australia

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta 

 15  50  45  20  40  40   1  25   1  63  50   5  70  55  15  55

Potential:
 20  63  10  10  30  20   1   1   5  75  60   5   

[Groundhog]

Ok, I forgot about the PF rating. Would anyone mind if I just give everyone 50 for this?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Ok, here is my premise for this dynasty. I will follow the career of FOFC created players in the FBCB. Anyone who wants to be involved simply needs to submit their players info and I will add them to the recruit list.

The rules are as follows:

1) You are allowed 550 attribute points to spend on your players 16 different attributes.

2) You are allowed 300 potential points to spend on your players 12 attributes that are allowed this rating.

3) You must name your player, give him a position, a jersey number, a height, a weight and a home town and high school.

My thinking is that the 550/300 points should give us a batch of decent players that will wind up finding time on the mid/low tier teams.

I will follow the recruiting of your player and then, once he signs (or walks on ) I will follow their progress.

To get things rolling, here is my player:

I'm kind of copying and pasting. I don't own the game (it won't run on my pc that well), so I don't know what all of this does.

#28 Ardent Enthusiast
5'8" 160lbs PG
North County High School
Bonne Terre, MO

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta 

 15  50  45  40  40  40   1  10   1  63  50   5  70  55  10  55

Potential:
 20  63  10  10  30  20   1   1   5  75  60   5   

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Hope you're ok with this.

[Blade6119]

#21 Colton Mayes
5'11 187lbs PG
Lafayette High School
Chesterfield, MO

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta 

 15  80  30  43  40  64   1  1   1  63  50   1  70  25  1  55

Potential:
 20  67  10  10  30  20   1   1   5  75  60   1   

I have the same problem as ardent...but i changed the position and only a few stats

[Peregrine]

Great idea Groundhog! What about academics, will you be doing that randomly? I'll post my player in a bit, but for those who are new to the game:

Ins = Inside game, points in the paint
Jps = Jump shot
Fts = Free throw shooting
3ps = Three point shooting
Hnd = Hands, dribbling, etc
Pas = Passing, ball distribution, good for PGs
Orb = Offensive rebounding
Drb = Defensive rebounding
Psd = Post defense, inside defense
Prd = Perimeter defense, outside defense
Stl = Steals
Blk = Shot blocking
Qkn = Quickness (I have to admit I don't really understand the function of the physical stats very well)
Jmp = Jumping?
Str = Strength
Sta = Stamina

[Groundhog]

As far as academics I'm just going to give each player a 'safe' score. I don't think it'd be too fun seeing your player head off to a juco school for 2 years, and then proceeding to go about missing most his jnr and snr years due to academics

Ardent/Blade, no probs with the copying and pasting, but if you'd rather adjust your ratings now that Peregrine has spelled out the attributes that is no problem also.

[Peregrine]

#17 Peregrine Falcon
6'8" 233 PF
Greenwood High School
Greenwood, SC

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

50  20  30  10  20  25  35  50  60  10  15  35  37  30  75  48


65  10  10  5   10  15  30  50  75   5   5  20

[Poli]

I'm ok. I suck at basketball anyway. This will be a lot of fun to follow.

[Peregrine]

Makes sense Groundhog. I tried to go with a more realistic player in the game as well. You don't see many players with even one 1, much less several of them!

[Blade6119]

groundhog...do you better understand the physical stats?

[JeeberD]

I really had no idea how potential works, so I just made stuff up for that. Hopefully Jeeber will rule the paint anyways...

#10 Jeeber D Mack
6'10 250lbs PF
Irvin High School
El Paso, Texas

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta 

 68  35  35  1  15  5   50  55   50  1  10   50  20  40  70  45

Potential:
 50  20  10  10  10  10   65   55   1  9  40   20   

[Groundhog]

As far as the physical stats are concerned, here is how I would interpret them:

Quickness: Most important for PGs, SGs & SFs. Leads to higher chance of fastbreaks (both from when your player gets steals, and from other situations such as beating the press), as well as just increasing the overall offensive and defensive ability of your players.

Jumping: I assume this rating would influence a players ability to rebound the ball, score close to the basket (lay-ups, dunks and the like) and probably their shot blocking too. I guess all positions would ideally be decent here, but I don't think it's as important a rating as quickness for the back court (PGs/SGs/SFs), nor as important as strength for the inside players (PFs/Cs).

Strength: This should be of a decent level for PFs and Cs, followed by SFs to a lesser extent. I don't consider it an important rating for SGs and PGs. Helps with rebounding, post defence and inside scoring.

Stamina: Players endurance level. Equal importance to all positions, perhaps slightly more so to guards, but I find that all positions tire at around the same rate.

[Peregrine]

Potential, btw is rated on the player card on an A-F scale, basically the 1-100 number you assign to each skill in potential is rating how much room for improvement there is over the player's current score. Players with As or Bs will expect to see big boosts over a few years, they will tend to be much better as seniors than as freshmen/sophomores.

[Blade6119]

ok, going back to edit stats so look for change groundhog

[Travis]

#19 Travis Elkin
6'2 210 lbs PG
Salisbury Composite High School
Sherwood Park, Alberta

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

10 50 35 50 50 63 1 1 1 50 54 1 70 30 15 69

Potential:
1 50 10 59 40 55 1 1 1 31 50 1

[bballdanman5]

#5 Dan Barile
7'1 195 Center
Brattleboro High School
Brattleboro, Vermont

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

85 30 15 0 10 30 70 35 50 15 10 50 10 50 50 40
Potential:
50 15 5 0 5 10 50 50 30 5 10 70

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by bballdanman5

#5 Dan Barile
7'1 195 Center
Brattleboro High School
Brattleboro, Vermont

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

85 30 15 0 10 30 70 35 50 15 10 50 10 50 50 40
Potential:
40 15 5 0 5 10 30 40 30 5 10 30 20 20 30 10

Bballdanman, I've also sent you a message, but there is no potential rating for QKN/JMP/STR & STA, so could you please re-distribute the 80 points you spent on their potential to the rest of your potential.

Thanks!

[MrBug708]

Kyle Kappe - PG
Temple City HS (CA)
6-2 180 #3

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

20 60 65 40 35 50 15 25 10 50 30 1 54 40 15 40


Potentials

40 80 75 70 60 90 25 40 30 85 50 1

[rjolley]

#42 Rick Jolley

6'9 250lbs PF
Roosevelt Senior High School
Gary, IN

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

55 20 65 0 15 50 51 55 41 3 10 35 20 35 60 35

Potential:
70 40 40 0 10 15 30 30 30 5 10 20

[Breeze]

#4 Bear Breeze
6' 5" 222 lbs PG
Sarasota, FL


Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

12 58 60 30 62 62 1 1 1 50 35 1 67 32 15 63

Potential:
25 32 30 35 25 25 13 13 20 30 32 20

[Blade]

#11 Mike Tokunaga
6'4 220 lbs PF
M.E. LaZerte Composite High School
Edmonton, Alberta

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

50 20 30 10 20 25 35 50 60 10 20 30 35 30 75 50

Potentials

75 10 10 5 10 15 30 50 65 5 5 20

[RealDeal]

Big Al Hill
6'7 170lb SG
Beastiality High School
New York, NY

Ins = Inside game, points in the paint 10 potential 0
Jps = Jump shot 80 potential 20
Fts = Free throw shooting 40 potential 30
3ps = Three point shooting 90 potential 10
Hnd = Hands, dribbling, etc 60 potential 40
Pas = Passing, ball distribution, good for PGs 10 potential 20
Orb = Offensive rebounding 10 potential 20
Drb = Defensive rebounding 10 potential 20
Psd = Post defense, inside defense 10 potential 10
Prd = Perimeter defense, outside defense 50 potential 50
Stl = Steals 20 potential 80
Blk = Shot blocking 10 potential 0
Qkn = Quickness 50
Jmp = Jumping? 30
Str = Strength 20
Sta = Stamina 50

total attribute points 550 total potential points 300

[RealDeal]

wait I'm confused?

Doesn't potential have to be higher than the original attribute?

Can the potential + attribute exceed 100?

[Peregrine]

Potential is a separate ranking from 1-100 from the current skill level, which is also 1-100.

[Groundhog]

One last bump for this. I'll be putting all the above players in to the sim when I get home from work tonight (roughly 6 hours from when I post this)!

[Groundhog]

Also, I ran a test last night and noticed that if a player doesn't get a scholarship offer all season, he falls off the face of the earth.

To combat this, if the season is finished and one or more of the created players gets no scholarship offer, I will overwrite an incoming walk-on freshman on the team that is ranked #1 on the players top-5 list. If there is no room on that team, I will place the player on their #2 team and so on.

[Peregrine]

I wondered about that Groundhog. It seems to me that the "end of season" recruiting stuff needs some tweaking anyway. For example, if I have a scholarship offer to a player when the year ends, I'm not sure if they can commit after the year is over, or whether new walkons are just generated to fill in the empty spots.

Well, looking forward to seeing how this goes, hopefully it won't be too much work.

[Groundhog]

Another issue I've noticed is that the players I create in the 'Future Recruit' pool don't get any high school stats. It's not a huge problem, but I've let HR know and I'll see what he says.

[Peregrine]

Interesting, are they given the numeric rankings and star rankings like regular recruits?

[Groundhog]

Yep, they are star-rated and given and overall and regional rating, and they are definately cpu-recruited, too.

[Groundhog]

RealDeal: As Peregrine states, potential is a seperate score not related to the actual rating score, So it's not a matter of adding the two together. For example, if I have a guard with a FG score of 95, but a FG potential of 1, it means he is incredibly unlikely to ever reach 96 or above. If he has a FG of 95, with a potential of 100, he'll likely max out next off-season. With that in mind, your potentials are illegaly high.

MrBug708: I totalled your potentials (after seeing you wind up a 4-star recruit ) and counted 646 potential points, which is a touch above the 300 limit. Please edit your post with a legal amount.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

I wondered about that Groundhog. It seems to me that the "end of season" recruiting stuff needs some tweaking anyway. For example, if I have a scholarship offer to a player when the year ends, I'm not sure if they can commit after the year is over, or whether new walkons are just generated to fill in the empty spots.

Well, looking forward to seeing how this goes, hopefully it won't be too much work.

Yes, it is possible for those players to sign. One signed in my game last night and I had the email right after the End Season processing. He rounded out my #4 class quite nicely.

[Sublime]

Not sure if I'm in, in time...hopefully!

#14 Justin Provost
6'3 185lbs PG
Stevens High School
Claremont, New Hampshire

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta 

 10  50  40  50  55  65   1  25  1  50  25   5  60  50  18  45

Potential:
 10  40  10  48  60  60   1   1   5  40  20   5   

[RealDeal]

ok I edited my potentials, and they should be legal now.

[nol]

#13 Billy Anderson
7'1" 215 SF
Spencer High School
Spencer, IA

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta

0 0 0 0 0 35 0 50 95 95 0 0 80 90 10 95

Potential:
0 0 100 0 0 100 0 75 0 0 25 0

[tucker342]

The rules are as follows:

1) You are allowed 550 attribute points to spend on your players 16 different attributes.

2) You are allowed 300 potential points to spend on your players 12 attributes that are allowed this rating.


Code:
#3 AJ Tucker
6'1 180lbs SG
City High School
Iowa City, IA

Ins = Inside game, points in the paint 0 potential 0
Jps = Jump shot 60 potential 20
Fts = Free throw shooting 60 potential 30
3ps = Three point shooting 55 potential 10
Hnd = Hands, dribbling, etc 75 potential 40
Pas = Passing, ball distribution, good for PGs 75 potential 40
Orb = Offensive rebounding 0 potential 0
Drb = Defensive rebounding 0 potential 0
Psd = Post defense, inside defense 0 potential 0
Prd = Perimeter defense, outside defense 65 potential 80
Stl = Steals 20 potential 80
Blk = Shot blocking 5 potential 0
Qkn = Quickness 50
Jmp = Jumping? 25
Str = Strength 10
Sta = Stamina 50

[Peregrine]

Technically a player can't have a rating of 0 (well, I've seen it in the 1-20 scale but never in the 1-100) and it's pretty rare to have anything lower than 5. I kinda think Groundhog got things off to a bit of an unrealistic start with all his 1s, but we'll see how it goes.

[Coffee Warlord]

#21 Rob Nielsen
6'6" 209lbs SF
Galesburg High School
Galesburg, IL

Ins 10/5
Jps 60/20
Fts 35/10
3ps 15/15
Hnd 40/10
Pas 5/20
Orb 10/25
Drb 10/25
Psd 40/20
Prd 70/85
Stl 35/55
Blk 10/10
Qui 75
Jmp 50
Str 40
Sta 45

[Poli]

CW, You suck. You should have stuck local so we could compete against each other. Hater.

[RPI-Fan]

#21 Kyle Smith
5'7 150lbs (or whatever the lowest allowed weight is) SF
Averill Park High School
Troy, New York

Ins Jps Fts 3ps Hnd Pas Orb Drb Psd Prd Stl Blk Qkn Jmp Str Sta 

 30  25  10  15  30  80   75  70   85  95  5   5  10  5  5  5

Potential:
 95  95  5  5  5  65   5   5   5  5  5   5   
 

[Peregrine]

Bump. We're excited to get into the game Groundhog!

[Groundhog]

Aye, so am I

I definately haven't forgotten, just waiting to see if I can get a fix regarding the lack of HS stats for created recruits. HR has fixed the prob (he posted on his own boards), so I'm going to see if I can get him to release this fix and then I'll get this baby underway!

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

RealDeal: As Peregrine states, potential is a seperate score not related to the actual rating score, So it's not a matter of adding the two together. For example, if I have a guard with a FG score of 95, but a FG potential of 1, it means he is incredibly unlikely to ever reach 96 or above. If he has a FG of 95, with a potential of 100, he'll likely max out next off-season. With that in mind, your potentials are illegaly high.

MrBug708: I totalled your potentials (after seeing you wind up a 4-star recruit ) and counted 646 potential points, which is a touch above the 300 limit. Please edit your post with a legal amount.

hmmm....can u edit it for me? I just want to be a solid shooting, good vision PG. coulda sworn I added correctly, unless I just confused it.

[Peregrine]

Groundhog, looks like HR posted a link for you on his website to correct the lack of HS stats. Now we can get started!

[John Galt]

#7 John Galt
6'11" 270lbs C
Bronx Science
New York, NY

Ins 70/60
Jps 1/1
Fts 40/20
3ps 1/1
Hnd 30/10
Pas 6/6
Orb 40/40
Drb 70/60
Psd 70/60
Prd 1/1
Stl 1/1
Blk 60/40
Qui 10
Jmp 70
Str 70
Sta 10

I hope those all add up right.

[Coffee Warlord]

Hey Groundhog, assuming you haven't gotten me all set up yet, I changed my HS to the one I actually went to, instead of a school in my City of Birth.

AE whined too much about it. What a hater.

[Groundhog]

Ok guys, I'm inputting everyone in now, and then I'll get this thing rolling!

[Coffee Warlord]

Just don't let me and AE go to the same school! I don't want that scrub on my team!

[Groundhog]

Alrighty then, all 18 players are in the game. I'll be posting the first update shortly.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Just don't let me and AE go to the same school! I don't want that scrub on my team!

Its very possible that either you, ardent, or i end up on the same squad. I would love to see us all go to a seperate team in a smaller conference(maybe MVC)