Kerry Screwed!

[stevew]

Well I should say, Kerry Screwing.


XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU FEB 12, 2004 11:45:28 ET XXXXX

CAMPAIGN DRAMA ROCKS DEMOCRATS: KERRY FIGHTS OFF MEDIA PROBE OF RECENT ALLEGED INFIDELITY, RIVALS PREDICT RUIN

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A frantic behind-the-scenes drama is unfolding around Sen. John Kerry and his quest to lockup the Democratic nomination for president, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

Intrigue surrounds a woman who recently fled the country, reportedly at the prodding of Kerry, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

A serious investigation of the woman and the nature of her relationship with Sen. John Kerry has been underway at TIME magazine, ABC NEWS, the WASHINGTON POST, THE HILL and the ASSOCIATED PRESS, where the woman in question once worked.

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A close friend of the woman first approached a reporter late last year claiming fantastic stories -- stories that now threaten to turn the race for the presidency on its head!

In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." [Three reporters in attendance confirm Clark made the startling comments.]

The Kerry commotion is why Howard Dean has turned increasingly aggressive against Kerry in recent days, and is the key reason why Dean reversed his decision not to drop out of the race after Wisconsin, top campaign sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.



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[corbes]

Guilty until proven innocent.

edit- I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just saying...

[Havok]

Originally Posted by corbes

Guilty until proven innocent.

edit- I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just saying...

welcome to politics........

[corbes]

Originally Posted by Havok

welcome to politics........

yeah, I know. *sigh*

[Barkeep49]

Drudge can't be trusted.

[Senator]

The only thing that can kill you politically is getting caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

[Flasch186]

not surprising......everyone has their secrets. If he comes out and admits it when it is proven as true Ill actually Appreciate his honesty, if he hides it poorly (like Clinton did), Ill understand but not necessarily respect that choice (any man would fear infidelity accusations more than anything and try to squirm out of them), BUT it wont change my decision to vote for him if he is the dem. nominee. I dont believe that someone's infidelity should alter your view as president or potential president and I feel this way no matter what party the person is in. Bush Sr. was accused of infidelity as well and to me, it did not matter, I respected the fact that Bush Sr. raised taxes when he felt he had to, and went to war to push back aggression in Iraq, I have the utmost respect for him. I have no respect for his son, Bush Jr. (Ive only agreed with one decision he's made and that was initially removing Saddam hussein from power everything after the war has been a debacle and all of his other decisions smack against my beliefs)

Kerry will likely be found to have had an affair as the Drudge report is usually dead on but I think it provides an opportunity for Kerry to show strength. I hope he doesnt squirm and "Cowboy's up"

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Drudge can't be trusted.

Yeah, because he clearly wasnt right on that Monica Lewinski Stuff. Yeah, Drudge is definately Right of Center, but He's probably had this for a week at least. This is you top story on the nightly news fellas.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by corbes

Guilty until proven innocent.

edit- I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just saying...

This is the court of public opinion, not a court of law. Depending on the charge, it is not likely that any illegalities are being presented, so there will be no call for a jury of his peers. It will be how it is all spinned by the press handlers.

IMHO, unless the charge is something serious (rape, sexual harassment, though even the last doesn't have good track record of hurting candidates), most likely this will be a mere blip on the whole process. As a matter of fact, it might even be something that the Kerry people are leaking themselves to raise their candidate’s "cool" or "sympathy" quotient.

[stevew]

dola~
And isnt it a bit ironic he would potentially have been cheating on his "Heiress meal ticket?"

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Senator

The only thing that can kill you politically is getting caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

Unless you're Ted Kennedy...

[SplitPersonality1]

Originally Posted by Senator

The only thing that can kill you politically is getting caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

Not necessarily. Look at Ted Kennedy.

[corbes]

"Rivals Predict Ruin"

that sounds a tabloid headline.

[Ksyrup]

Stupid, not ironic.

[Senator]

Unless you're Ted Kennedy...

A caveat. With the Kennedy's, the normal rules have never applied.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by SplitPersonality1

Not necessarily. Look at Ted Kennedy.

Well that killed Kennedy's chance of being the President. Him still being a senator in that whacked out state is a given.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, because he clearly wasnt right on that Monica Lewinski Stuff. Yeah, Drudge is definately Right of Center, but He's probably had this for a week at least. This is you top story on the nightly news fellas.

Throw enough shit at the wall and some of it will stick.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by stevew

Yeah, because he clearly wasnt right on that Monica Lewinski Stuff. Yeah, Drudge is definately Right of Center, but He's probably had this for a week at least. This is you top story on the nightly news fellas.

My problem isn't with his being right of center, my problem is with his piss poor journalism. I congradulate him on getting Lewinski right, but since he has gotten so much wrong I stand by my original statement that he can't be trusted.

[SirFozzie]

Funny how CNN etcetera hasn't picked this up.

Drudge is a republican propagandist.

[The Afoci]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Funny how CNN etcetera hasn't picked this up.

Drudge is a republican propagandist.

Is this pretty much accepted by everyone? I don't really know? I check Drudge everyday, but I always kind of thought he was bash everyone. Maybe not though...

[stevew]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Funny how CNN etcetera hasn't picked this up.

Drudge is a republican propagandist.

This just broke within the last hour.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Funny how CNN etcetera hasn't picked this up.

Drudge is a republican propagandist.

Most major news outlets are probably aware of this by now and are engaged in legitimate fact-finding to verify or refute this story. I'd imagine it might be a day or two (or more) before this whole thing shakes out in the mainstream media.

[SirFozzie]

I repeat. Propaganda.

Just like them tying Jane Fonda to John Kerry's anti-war protests. By the time Fonda joined the anti-war politics groups. John Kerry was out of the movement and running for Congress (1972). It's amazing the amount of mud they throw on the "Vietnam issue" where there's still a lot of doubt about how BUSH spent his Vietnam War years..

Simply despicable.

[Ben E Lou]

The odd change in behavior by Dean is interesting (but then again, Dean is a little odd.... ). We'll see where this goes.

[Senator]

I just still have this gut feeling about Edwards. Something keeps telling me he is going to slip in there somehow.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by Senator

I just still have this gut feeling about Edwards. Something keeps telling me he is going to slip in there somehow.

*rimshot*

[stevew]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I repeat. Propaganda.

Just like them tying Jane Fonda to John Kerry's anti-war protests. By the time Fonda joined the anti-war politics groups. John Kerry was out of the movement and running for Congress (1972). It's amazing the amount of mud they throw on the "Vietnam issue" where there's still a lot of doubt about how BUSH spent his Vietnam War years..

Simply despicable.

Man, If anything I prefer Edwards to Kerry or Bush. This aint Propaganda, this is legitimate news. We just arent used to seeing it break like this.

[SirFozzie]

Legitimate and Drudge Report in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

Rumor Monger for Hire and Drudge Report, maybe.

[Barkeep49]

What do you mean we aren't used to seeing it break like this?

[GrantDawg]

I heard about this three days ago on talk radio. There is going to be a big write-up on this in one of the major newspapers (either NY Times or Washington Post) in the next few days. Again, it'll be a big story but end up not hurting Kerry much.

[SirFozzie]

Apparently (per Drudge's further report) this is more than 4 years old, as it factored into the decision not to make Kerry the VP in 2000.

So, this is not an ongoing thing, as Drudge so breathlessly described.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Senator

The only thing that can kill you politically is getting caught with a live boy or a dead girl.

Uhm, Gary Hart...

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Apparently (per Drudge's further report) this is more than 4 years old, as it factored into the decision not to make Kerry the VP in 2000.

So, this is not an ongoing thing, as Drudge so breathlessly described.

One of the stories that is going to make rounds is that on the night of his wedding, Kerry had a fling with a model. No, none of this stuff is new. It is actually a well known thing in political circles that Kerry has a taste for the ladies.

[Senator]

Gary Hart could be elected to some seat if he chose to.

Uhm, Bill Clinton.

[rkmsuf]

It's all this just standard operating procedure? I mean what is the story here?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Uhm, Gary Hart...

How many years ago was that? Clinton had much worse blow up before the first time he was elected (Jennifer Flowers, anyone?), and it was just a minor bump that ended up making little/no impact.

[wig]

I tried to get an intern at my old job.

[corbes]

So..... why tell this story now? What's with that?

[wig]

Hey intern! Time to answer the meat phone!

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by wig

I tried to get an intern at my old job.

I think the story here is Kerry having sex with women...

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Senator

Gary Hart could be elected to some seat if he chose to.

Uhm, Bill Clinton.

I was just stating that there are some exceptions...it was 1987, I was 12. Perhaps Clinton (like Teddie, though Teddie never became Prez) had better charisma than Hart, or perhaps, the voting public was just tired of Republicans...

There has probably been much infidelity in the presidency, but I think Hart was quite popular.

I'm not getting into a debate with a Senator, but the theory can be proven false just as much as it can be proven true.

[Qwikshot]

You gotta admit Donna Rice looked a hell of a lot better than anything Clinton screwed.

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[Senator]

A good friend of mine has a theory that makes alot of sense. He went back and looked at scandals that took down a person running for the Presidency. He noticed that once that scandal officially was the cause of the person losing the race, no candidate that came after suffered the same fate for the same scandal. It was an amazing study. A perfect example of that would be Hart/Clinton.

[sachmo71]

I heart politics. If you can't beat a man with the issues, destroy him.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

Throw enough shit at the wall and some of it will stick.

The corrollary: throw enough shit at a fan and some of it will fly back in your face.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Senator

A good friend of mine has a theory that makes alot of sense. He went back and looked at scandals that took down a person running for the Presidency. He noticed that once that scandal officially was the cause of the person losing the race, no candidate that came after suffered the same fate for the same scandal. It was an amazing study. A perfect example of that would be Hart/Clinton.

I share this theory... and felt Hart-Clinton was the finishing touch.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

I share this theory... and felt Hart-Clinton was the finishing touch.

Why do you think that is? Does the first scandal desensitizes people for the second? Or is it that the morals get more lose year by year and things become accepted? Or maybe a little of both? (I agree with the theory, too, by the way).

[QuikSand]

I reckon a litte of both.

Think about how we (the voting public) have responded to allegations of past drug use by political candidates. It was once a third rail... then later became a softer issue... then, in 1988, the Dem candidates were practically falling all over themselves to confess to using pot. Then, in 2000, probably half of the people who voted for the winner would say that they believe he had used "hard" drugs like cocaine. Times change.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

I reckon a litte of both.

Think about how we (the voting public) have responded to allegations of past drug use by political candidates. It was once a third rail... then later became a softer issue... then, in 1988, the Dem candidates were practically falling all over themselves to confess to using pot. Then, in 2000, probably half of the people who voted for the winner would say that they believe he had used "hard" drugs like cocaine. Times change.

That was the exact same second example I would have used. It is interesting that the last big sacrificial lamb to the drug scandal was not a candidate running for office but a Republican Supreme Court nominee (Robert Bork if my memory is not mistaking).

[Fonzie]

If this story needs another nail in its coffin - and I'm not sure it does - it can be provided by Gen. Wesley Clark himself, who is apparently set to endorse Kerry on a campaign stop in Wisconsin. Why would he do so if he was truly in on the "scandalous" information, and believed as Drudge suggests that it would derail his candidacy?