OT: Crazy Party Poker Hand

[Huckleberry]

Subtitled My Newborn Daughter is My Lucky Charm

Before I paste the subject hand, a little background. Just two hands before this one, EMPERESS and I were the only two people left in a pot. I had A 7 and the flop came out:

2 K 8

At this point I checked at the BB+1 position and eventually EMPERESS bet $1 and I called and everyone else folded. Turn comes out

3

I check again. EMPERESS bets $15 and then it gets crazy. With my 6 day old daughter in my arms, I grab the mouse and start moving it over to fold. All of a sudden she wakes up, thrashes in my arms, and the next thing I know I've gone all-in. Hard to get mad at a 6-day old, so I just said oh well and prepared to leave the table. River comes out

6

I give my daughter a kiss and apologize to EMPERESS. She doesn't respond.

With that history stated, here's the hand:

***** Hand History for Game 390464903 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri Feb 13 15:24:36 EST 2004
Table Richie Rich (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: zanman7 ( $37.60)
Seat 2: RodneyB1234 ( $45.65)
Seat 3: Huck_L_Berry ( $38.80)
Seat 4: stt5v ( $27.15)
Seat 5: sndpnt ( $74.75)
Seat 6: wbhuey ( $22)
Seat 7: cem2002 ( $15.95)
Seat 9: blackfun ( $7.30)
Seat 10: EMPERESS ( $27.85)
RodneyB1234 posts small blind (0.25)
Huck_L_Berry posts big blind (0.50)
wbhuey posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Huck_L_Berry [ Q, T ]
stt5v folds.
wbhuey checks.
cem2002 folds.
blackfun calls (0.50)
EMPERESS raises (3) to 3
zanman7 folds.
RodneyB1234 folds.
Huck_L_Berry calls (2.50) <--- Half sympathy call, half decent hole cards
wbhuey folds.
blackfun calls (2.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ T, A, T ]
Huck_L_Berry checks.
blackfun checks.
EMPERESS checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ T ]
Huck_L_Berry checks.
blackfun bets (4.30)
blackfun is all-In.
EMPERESS calls (4.30)
Huck_L_Berry raises (8.60) to 8.60
EMPERESS calls (4.30)
Creating Main Pot with $21.55 with blackfun
** Dealing River ** : [ 7 ]
Huck_L_Berry bets (16.25)
EMPERESS calls (16.25)
EMPERESS is all-In.
Creating Side Pot 1 with $39.20 with EMPERESS
** Summary **
Main Pot: $21.55 | Side Pot 1: $39.20 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ T A T T 7 ]
zanman7 balance $37.60, didn't bet (folded)
RodneyB1234 balance $45.40, lost $0.25 (folded)
Huck_L_Berry balance $71.70, bet $27.85, collected $60.75, net +$32.90 [ Q, T ] [ four of a kind, tens -- A,T,T,T,T ]
stt5v balance $27.15, didn't bet (folded)
sndpnt balance $74.75, sits out
wbhuey balance $21.50, lost $0.50 (folded)
cem2002 balance $15.95, didn't bet (folded)
SchHrdKncks balance $25, sits out
blackfun balance $0, lost $7.30 [ K 8 ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Ad,K,T,T,T ]
EMPERESS balance $0, lost $27.85 [ A A ] [ a full house, Aces full of tens -- A,A,A,T,T,T ]

Did I just get incredibly lucky out of one single thrash of my newborn child? Seems to me I should have been at $14, then she thrashed and I should have been at $0. I get lucky, and 2 hands later I have to think that the only reason EMPERESS went all-in is because she figured I was bluffing or drawing again. Isn't that the only explanation for her betting pattern?

[JAG]

Good story. Tell your daughter she had good poker instincts from birth when you're trying to teach her for real when she's older.

[Huckleberry]

The Lucky Charm:

[cthomer5000]

"A baby on the table! That's good luck!"

one of my all-time favorite Simpson's quote.

[albionmoonlight]

Do I see an . . . Ace of Spades poking out of her blanket?

[albionmoonlight]

Maybe she thought that you had tens full of Aces? That would have explained your betting, but still made her think that she had top hand.

[johnnyshaka]

Funny thing...I lost on a hand just like that this morning at 3am in a Poker Stars Freeroll.

I'm holding AA and raise to get rid of the fluff. One guy all-ins with a small stack (I've got 10th biggest stack out of 300 at the time) and another guy calls. Flop comes out:

J A J

Shit, I'm gold. Raise a good chunk and the other guy...whose got a stack about as big as mine...calls. The turn:

J

Hmmm...I raise another good chunk again and the other guy pushes in his stack. FANTASTIC...I've got aces full of Jacks and this guy is pushing his stack in...I love it.

Just as I push my stack in I think..."does he have the other Jack??"...nah, can't be. I haven't seen quads in a couple of weeks. River comes:

6

Not a biggie anyways...I've got aces full of jacks...and the other guy probably has the other ace and thinks he's got it. DOH!!!!

He had the other jack...GODDAMNIT!!!!!! Stayed up all night to lose to quads...give me a break!!!

I mean, what the hell is he doing calling a pre-flop raise with J6 off-suit anyways???!?!?!? Play right or don't play at all!!!

Ok...I'm calm now.

[rkmsuf]

that's worse than a server crash...

[johnnyshaka]

Tell me about it.

I was really proud of myself last night. I played really tight, didn't jump in on borderline hands and only saw the flop maybe 20% of the time and won 90% of the hands I did play. Probably played much too agressively with a full house (AAAJJ) with 3 jacks on the board...but, c'mon...what are the odds??

Even played in my first 7 Card Stud H/Lo last night. That was insteresting. Very different game. It was odd...the guys who played a lot of hands were early chip leaders but were gone by the time I played my second hand. Definitely pays to play tight to start to let the aggressive guys kill each other off. Finished around 150th...I was pretty impressed with myself for the first time playing that game.

[Huckleberry]

I didn't want to start a new thread.

Those of you who are better at Poker than I, please tell me how poorly or not poorly I played this hand. My explanation for my actions follows:

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***** Hand History for Game 401314392 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Wed Feb 18 17:23:20 EST 2004
Table Card Room Table 2632 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: OsoNegro ( $22.70)
Seat 2: cfletcher1 ( $18)
Seat 3: Huck_L_Berry ( $47.30)
Seat 4: nottalot ( $90.95)
Seat 5: CleverAndie ( $25)
Seat 6: Vetster ( $103.10)
Seat 7: SHOTTY19 ( $33.45)
Seat 9: wankolnikov ( $23.65)
Seat 10: smokin27 ( $27.80)
nottalot posts small blind (0.25)
CleverAndie posts big blind (0.50)
TCUfan posts big blind (0.50)
cfletcher1 posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Huck_L_Berry [ 3h, 5h ]
Vetster calls (0.50)
SHOTTY19 folds.
TCUfan checks.
smokin27 calls (0.50)
OsoNegro folds.
cfletcher1 checks.
Huck_L_Berry calls (0.50)
nottalot calls (0.25)
CleverAndie checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 3s, 5d ]
nottalot checks.
CleverAndie checks.
Vetster checks.
TCUfan checks.
smokin27 checks.
cfletcher1 bets (2)
Huck_L_Berry raises (5) to 5
nottalot calls (5)
CleverAndie folds.
Vetster folds.
TCUfan folds.
smokin27 folds.
cfletcher1 calls (3)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
nottalot checks.
cfletcher1 bets (12.50)
cfletcher1 is all-In.
Huck_L_Berry calls (12.50)
nottalot calls (12.50)
Creating Main Pot with $53.20 with cfletcher1
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
nottalot checks.
Huck_L_Berry bets (29.30)
Huck_L_Berry is all-In.
nottalot calls (29.30)
Creating Side Pot 1 with $58.40 with Huck_L_Berry
** Summary **
Main Pot: $53.20 | Side Pot 1: $58.40 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ 6h 3s 5d 2h 5c ]
OsoNegro balance $22.70, didn't bet (folded)
cfletcher1 balance $0, lost $18 [ 4d Qh ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6h,5d,4d,3s,2h ]
Huck_L_Berry balance $111.60, bet $47.30, collected $111.60, net +$64.30 [ 3h 5h ] [ a full house, Fives full of threes -- 5h,5d,5c,3h,3s ]
nottalot balance $43.65, lost $47.30 [ 2d 4c ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6h,5d,4c,3s,2d ]
CleverAndie balance $24.50, lost $0.50 (folded)
Vetster balance $102.60, lost $0.50 (folded)
SHOTTY19 balance $33.45, didn't bet (folded)
TCUfan balance $24.50, lost $0.50 (folded)
wankolnikov balance $23.65, sits out
smokin27 balance $27.30, lost $0.50 (folded)

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So, I only called the blind because I was on the button. I figured why not for 50 cents at this point because the table is very tight. So what happens? I flop two pair. Betting gets around and I raise to $5 to scare off the straight draws and take my pot. They don't scare.

I'm 100% sure that they hit the straight on the turn, which they did. But with 13 outs (boat or flush) I'm better than 28% to overtake them on the river. The bet is $12.50 to me knowing that the small blind will call, making the pot $43 in my mind. So I go with my hastily figured pot odds that tell me it's not the smartest call ever but not the worst, either. I call.

Obviously I hit it on the river. Is my application of my newbie concept of pot odds way off on this? I saw that I had a 28.2% chance of drawing a winner. My bet would have been a little under 30% of the pot.

Any assistance is appreciated. And if the answer is that I suck, well then I've gotten bad beat about 10 times in a week, so I'm not overly concerned.

[Vegas Vic]

Very nice.

I predict that your daughter is going to be the next Annie Duke when she grows up.

[primelord]

I probably wouldn't have played this hand even on the button for only .50, but I don't know that it was a terrible play. Still you can't be thrilled about most the hands that you may hit on the flop. Making middle and bottom pottom pair on the flop has a way of costing you a lot of money in the long run. And even if you hit your flush you can't be certain it will be good.

I thought the flop play was good although I probably would have made a bigger raise. Now that you have made your 2 pair you want to try and drive those drawing hands out. Your turn call wasn't a bad one unless you were up against a bigger flush draw. Then obviously your outs are cut down to 4. But assuming all your heart outs were good (which it seems they were) then you needed to be getting about 3:1 on your money and if you were certain the small blind was going to call you were getting about 3.5:1. So not a bad call.

[robbgmaier]

I didn't check any of the calculations, but it seems that the call is easy given your numbers. If you miss on the river, you won't be losing anything else, but if you hit you're going to extract a large penalty from the opponents, giving you really good odds on the turn call.

maybe i should think about having a kid......