PING: Utility Writers (Utility Request)

[Ben E Lou]

Because of the way booms/busts work in FOF2K4, I find myself doing a lot of work reloading old saves in order to track the overall current/future ratings for guys on my team. A utility to do this would be a *GREAT* addition to FOF2K4.

[Fido]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Because of the way booms/busts work in FOF2K4, I find myself doing a lot of work reloading old saves in order to track the overall current/future ratings for guys on my team. A utility to do this would be a *GREAT* addition to FOF2K4.

I'd do it, but I really don't feel like trying to reverse engineer the scouting algorithm, so I could only do it on raw data.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Fido

I'd do it, but I really don't feel like trying to reverse engineer the scouting algorithm, so I could only do it on raw data.

Can't do it from the scouting report output?

[Ben E Lou]

Dola--

I'm thinking even something that required the player to print to file from the Scout Overview screen would beat the current method of printing out every end-of-season roster and comparing them, or copying and pasting into a spreadsheet and then having to move all the cells around to get the players to match up from year to year.

[Barkeep49]

Agreed. I would really like to do a misfits challenge but don't have the patience to do the comparisons which I think would be needed to be successful.

[sabotai]

Someone just released a utility not too long ago that goes through and captures data off of the player's screen. I'll try to find and bump. It's a great utility.

[Ben E Lou]

Look what I got via e-mail!

Tucker Tigers Player Report

Name	Pos	2004 Current	2004 Future	2005 Current	2005 Future	2006 Current	2006 Future	2007 Current	2007 Future	2008 Current	2008 Future	Overall Current Change	Overall Future Change
Ackerman, Claude	RDE	**	**	22	27	23 (1)	27 (0)	26 (3)	28 (1)	27 (1)	29 (1)	5	2
Ali, Tony	LG	75	75	74 (-1)	74 (-1)	71 (-3)	72 (-2)	71 (0)	72 (0)	72 (1)	72 (0)	-3	-3
Amey, Bobby	LDT	20	32	23 (3)	33 (1)	**	**	**	**	**	**	3	1
Argueta, Donnie	FS	**	**	**	**	13	20	**	**	**	**	0	0
Atkins, Grant	LT	**	**	**	**	**	**	7	13	**	**	0	0
Baldridge, Daniel	FL	**	**	**	**	12	23	**	**	**	**	0	0
Bare, Reno	NT	**	**	**	**	55	55	**	**	**	**	0	0
Barrale, Kenny	FL	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	30	51	0	0
Barrientos, Tyrell	RB	**	**	26	29	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Bergeron, Al	RB	**	**	35	42	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Berry, George	RDE	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	27	38	0	0
Biddle, Alfred	LG	31	50	35 (4)	51 (1)	46 (11)	50 (-1)	**	**	**	**	15	0
Birmingham, Joe	RCB	25	25	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Blackstock, Ronald	SLB	27	57	32 (5)	57 (0)	37 (5)	58 (1)	35 (-2)	59 (1)	38 (3)	59 (0)	11	2
Bolsins, Antonio	MLB	**	**	27	55	30 (3)	50 (-5)	32 (2)	41 (-9)	33 (1)	41 (0)	6	-14
Booker, Mo	RCB	**	**	**	**	12	28	15 (3)	29 (1)	**	**	3	1
Bowlware, Buddy	QB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	16	40	0	0
Bridges, Vinny	RG	**	**	**	**	18	41	22 (4)	43 (2)	24 (2)	42 (-1)	6	1
Briley, Harry	QB	65	74	71 (6)	72 (-2)	74 (3)	74 (2)	73 (-1)	73 (-1)	70 (-3)	70 (-3)	5	-4
Brooks, Thomas	RCB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	53	53	0	0
Butler, David	RB	29	34	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Casto, Arlie	FS	59	59	59 (0)	59 (0)	59 (0)	59 (0)	54 (-5)	54 (-5)	54 (0)	54 (0)	-5	-5
Celestine, Edmundo	LCB	**	**	**	**	**	**	51	51	49 (-2)	49 (-2)	-2	-2
Chapin, Thomas	RDT	38	41	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Childress, Aubrey	WLB	21	46	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Chu, Francis	FL	68	68	41 (-27)	41 (-27)	35 (-6)	35 (-6)	**	**	**	**	-33	-33
Clayton, Eddie	FS	30	44	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Clayton, Lester	WLB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	14	35	0	0
Connor, Justin	RDT	**	**	**	**	22	35	27 (5)	36 (1)	29 (2)	39 (3)	7	4
Crawford, Wendell	RCB	11	25	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Darius, Melvin	LDE	**	**	23	32	25 (2)	30 (-2)	27 (2)	31 (1)	**	**	4	-1
Davis, Luis	LT	44	44	53 (9)	53 (9)	**	**	**	**	**	**	9	9
Deighton, Perry	RT	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	19	30	0	0
Dennis, Neal	SE	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	24	42	0	0
Depalma, Thomas	LDE	44	44	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Dixon, Cris	LCB	16	28	19 (3)	29 (1)	**	**	**	**	**	**	3	1
Eisenberg, Paris	FL	**	**	49	49	48 (-1)	48 (-1)	48 (0)	48 (0)	**	**	-1	-1
Emmons, Sherman	FL	15	29	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Escamilla, Carey	P	81	81	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	0	0
Everett, Gus	TE	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	19	37	0	0
Everett, Jeremy	FL	**	**	23	39	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Flannery, Rico	QB	**	**	**	**	9	25	**	**	**	**	0	0
Francis, Thomas	K	**	**	45	45	43 (-2)	43 (-2)	**	**	**	**	-2	-2
Frederick, Louie	WLB	**	**	18	38	25 (7)	44 (6)	29 (4)	45 (1)	32 (3)	46 (1)	14	8
Gardocki, Travis	K	32	35	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Gebhart, Zachary	SS	53	53	52 (-1)	52 (-1)	43 (-9)	43 (-9)	38 (-5)	38 (-5)	**	**	-15	-15
Gerhardt, Rick	SE	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	20	25	0	0
Gillespie, Oscar	FL	12	22	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Gillis, Robert	WLB	**	**	**	**	26	37	28 (2)	37 (0)	**	**	2	0
Glover, Matt	LDE	16	36	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Glynn, Cary	FB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	27	42	0	0
Glynn, Terrell	QB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	34	34	0	0
Goodwin, Jack	C	21	29	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Gramatica, Daryl	LDT	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	22	37	0	0
Grantham, Branden	LCB	56	56	62 (6)	62 (6)	57 (-5)	57 (-5)	**	**	**	**	1	1
Guthrie, Tom	FS	**	**	**	**	34	65	46 (12)	66 (1)	53 (7)	72 (6)	19	7
Hall, Vaughn	LDT	50	50	50 (0)	50 (0)	44 (-6)	44 (-6)	**	**	**	**	-6	-6
Hampton, Arnold	RCB	**	**	**	**	21	37	25 (4)	39 (2)	28 (3)	39 (0)	7	2
Hardy, Dustin	RG	**	**	**	**	**	**	41	41	39 (-2)	39 (-2)	-2	-2
Harper, Nathan	QB	**	**	20	29	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Hayes, Dwight	RDE	14	32	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Henderson, Norbert	TE	89	89	88 (-1)	88 (-1)	87 (-1)	87 (-1)	86 (-1)	86 (-1)	84 (-2)	84 (-2)	-5	-5
Hett, Corey	LDT	**	**	**	**	22	40	29 (7)	41 (1)	32 (3)	41 (0)	10	1
Hickson, Clay	LDE	**	**	**	**	**	**	65	65	65 (0)	65 (0)	0	0
Hoffman, Buster	SE	**	**	47	47	46 (-1)	46 (-1)	42 (-4)	42 (-4)	**	**	-5	-5
Holliday, Joseph	K	**	**	**	**	**	**	83	83	83 (0)	83 (0)	0	0
Howard, Grant	QB	25	43	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Huffman, Darrell	WLB	17	35	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Humble, Arnulfo	SE	**	**	**	**	**	**	80	80	80 (0)	80 (0)	0	0
Humphries, Bill	RB	**	**	**	**	31	41	**	**	**	**	0	0
Jaffe, Perry	LCB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	17	32	0	0
Jamison, Leonard	TE	**	**	16	32	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Jenkins, Archie	RCB	**	**	**	**	22	27	**	**	**	**	0	0
Kaczynski, Willie	WLB	**	**	**	**	**	**	11	20	**	**	0	0
Kemp, Lonnie	RT	50	50	49 (-1)	50 (0)	42 (-7)	43 (-7)	41 (-1)	41 (-2)	**	**	-9	-9
Kenworthy, Travis	FS	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	16	25	0	0
Kingsblood, Horace	RDE	**	**	**	**	22	40	**	**	**	**	0	0
Klinger, Jack	SLB	**	**	50	69	63 (13)	67 (-2)	71 (8)	71 (4)	51 (-20)	51 (-20)	1	-18
Klingler, Adam	LDE	**	**	**	**	24	35	27 (3)	37 (2)	31 (4)	39 (2)	7	4
Lafferty, Lamont	RT	18	30	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Lemieux, Harry	LCB	46	46	45 (-1)	45 (-1)	**	**	**	**	**	**	-1	-1
Lewis, Jay	LCB	**	**	24	36	34 (10)	40 (4)	38 (4)	41 (1)	40 (2)	42 (1)	16	6
Lueck, Phil	FL	31	31	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Majors, Patrick	FB	**	**	36	60	42 (6)	58 (-2)	**	**	**	**	6	-2
Manning, Lionel	LT	**	**	20	28	23 (3)	28 (0)	**	**	**	**	3	0
Manzanares, Douglas	C	**	**	**	**	**	**	47	47	**	**	0	0
Martin, Elias	RDT	74	74	49 (-25)	49 (-25)	48 (-1)	48 (-1)	48 (0)	48 (0)	47 (-1)	47 (-1)	-27	-27
Mastromonaco, Levon	RB	**	**	**	**	33	47	38 (5)	48 (1)	41 (3)	49 (1)	8	2
Matijacic, Winfred	RB	20	25	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Mattos, Vinny	RT	18	27	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
McCormick, Dusty	LT	23	27	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
McWilliams, Monty	LT	**	**	**	**	**	**	22	50	26 (4)	53 (3)	4	3
Mendez, Kenneth	QB	**	**	23	49	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Miller, Bob	TE	32	48	34 (2)	48 (0)	36 (2)	48 (0)	35 (-1)	42 (-6)	**	**	3	-6
Montgomery, Dexter	FB	**	**	**	**	**	**	37	67	39 (2)	67 (0)	2	0
Montgomery, Norman	QB	**	**	**	**	**	**	30	42	**	**	0	0
Munguia, Justin	C	84	86	83 (-1)	85 (-1)	82 (-1)	85 (0)	78 (-4)	82 (-3)	70 (-8)	74 (-8)	-14	-12
Murphy, Barry	SE	12	18	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Nakajo, Quinn	LT	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	11	38	0	0
Obrien, Chris	SS	84	84	83 (-1)	83 (-1)	**	**	**	**	**	**	-1	-1
Ohanian, Graham	RDE	20	29	24 (4)	30 (1)	**	**	**	**	**	**	4	1
Owen, Weldon	RDT	26	26	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Peebles, Dexter	WLB	22	51	25 (3)	46 (-5)	**	**	**	**	**	**	3	-5
Perry, Desmond	RB	43	48	44 (1)	46 (-2)	45 (1)	45 (-1)	46 (1)	46 (1)	**	**	3	-2
Peterson, Toby	LG	**	**	**	**	**	**	38	38	**	**	0	0
Phillip, Jose	RG	85	88	87 (2)	88 (0)	85 (-2)	86 (-2)	85 (0)	86 (0)	85 (0)	87 (1)	0	-1
Raynor, Ron	MLB	23	45	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Riley, Joe	RCB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	10	40	0	0
Riner, Maurice	RB	**	**	37	44	40 (3)	45 (1)	43 (3)	46 (1)	45 (2)	47 (1)	8	3
Robison, Brady	RDE	**	**	**	**	**	**	58	58	58 (0)	58 (0)	0	0
Robison, Courtney	RB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	29	37	0	0
Rodgers, Harvey	RB	**	**	**	**	39	44	41 (2)	45 (1)	43 (2)	46 (1)	4	2
Rolfe, Donald	SLB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	45	54	0	0
Sammons, Van	TE	**	**	22	35	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Sampson, Jackie	C	**	**	30	49	35 (5)	49 (0)	41 (6)	49 (0)	43 (2)	50 (1)	13	1
Samuels, Brad	SS	**	**	24	43	33 (9)	40 (-3)	**	**	**	**	9	-3
Sanderson, Artie	SE	**	**	**	**	**	**	30	63	32 (2)	64 (1)	2	1
Sargent, Terry	RDE	**	**	24	35	31 (7)	36 (1)	**	**	**	**	7	1
Sax, Phil	TE	25	37	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Schaetzel, Myron	RG	19	42	22 (3)	44 (2)	**	**	**	**	**	**	3	2
Schwartz, Cary	LDT	**	**	**	**	**	**	21	40	23 (2)	40 (0)	2	0
Sheldon, Rod	RG	16	37	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Smith, David	SLB	50	74	54 (4)	72 (-2)	**	**	**	**	**	**	4	-2
Spain, Porter	SE	51	51	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Spencer, Bert	QB	**	**	23	42	34 (11)	44 (2)	44 (10)	44 (0)	47 (3)	47 (3)	24	5
Stacey, Luther	RDT	**	**	22	30	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Stanton, Graham	TE	**	**	**	**	23	47	29 (6)	50 (3)	38 (9)	57 (7)	15	10
Su, Dudley	QB	21	33	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Tanner, Leroy	RT	**	**	**	**	14	34	**	**	**	**	0	0
Tanner, Mercury	FB	12	28	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Tokunaga, Jimmy	QB	**	**	**	**	**	**	17	29	**	**	0	0
Urena, William	FL	**	**	**	**	18	38	20 (2)	36 (-2)	**	**	2	-2
Valerio, Whitney	RCB	**	**	35	35	34 (-1)	35 (0)	34 (0)	35 (0)	**	**	-1	0
Velazquez, Franklin	MLB	75	75	72 (-3)	72 (-3)	72 (0)	72 (0)	73 (1)	73 (1)	70 (-3)	70 (-3)	-5	-5
Walters, Travis	FL	12	22	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Wang, Gene	SS	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	19	35	0	0
Warren, Alan	RT	32	44	33 (1)	43 (-1)	**	**	**	**	**	**	1	-1
Wells, Rex	LT	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	18	49	0	0
West, Kendall	FS	**	**	**	**	**	**	17	40	**	**	0	0
Wheeler, Neal	MLB	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	18	34	0	0
Wiggins, Brock	C	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	**	22	38	0	0
Wilber, Javier	FB	55	56	55 (0)	56 (0)	54 (-1)	55 (-1)	48 (-6)	50 (-5)	**	**	-7	-6
Williamson, Mo	SE	**	**	18	29	**	**	**	**	**	**	0	0
Wolfe, Forrest	TE	**	**	**	**	35	35	**	**	**	**	0	0
Young, Jason	RT	**	**	42	48	54 (12)	54 (6)	54 (0)	54 (0)	53 (-1)	53 (-1)	11	5

[Ben E Lou]

Dola--

I assume the person who gave me the output above from his utility will let us all know when it is ready to go public, but this looks *VERY* promising. All I had to do was do a "print to file" from the roster overview screen each season.

[Ben E Lou]

Double dola--

One more nice thing (for the non-technical among us) is that the format used can be copied and pasted right into Word, and the fonts then resized for printing. I was able to fit this entire output onto four printed pages by resizing to 8 point, and maximizing the margins.

My only feedback for the creator of this utility is that it would be nice to have an option not to output guys who aren't on the most recent year's roster (although at times I'd love to have this history--specifically to see if one of those guys who I thought might break out one day, but couldn't keep on the roster for whatever reason, ever did.)

Does anyone else have any feedback regarding this output?

[FBPro]

Nice!!!

[Subby]

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

[Northwood_DK]

Wow. This is just what i have been looking for. Great work.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Subby

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

Interesting. That would be great for more detailed analysis, but specifically I'm wanting this utility to speed up the identification of potential breakouts. It has been discussed here that one of the breakout development curves is that they'll have relatively modest increases in overall future potential for the first few years of their careers, then have a sharp bump one year. I'm just looking for a utility that will help me see, without looking through printout after printout, who is increasing in overall potential.

This was discussed in this thread.

[primelord]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Dola--

I assume the person who gave me the output above from his utility will let us all know when it is ready to go public, but this looks *VERY* promising. All I had to do was do a "print to file" from the roster overview screen each season.

Indeed I will.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by primelord

Indeed I will.

Didn't want to tell 'em it was you until you were ready to, Rick! THANKS!!!!!!

[Subby]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Interesting. That would be great for more detailed analysis, but specifically I'm wanting this utility to speed up the identification of potential breakouts. It has been discussed here that one of the breakout development curves is that they'll have relatively modest increases in overall future potential for the first few years of their careers, then have a sharp bump one year. I'm just looking for a utility that will help me see, without looking through printout after printout, who is increasing in overall potential.

This was discussed in this thread.

Absolutely...just spitballing ideas

Great work, Primelord!!!

[primelord]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Double dola--

One more nice thing (for the non-technical among us) is that the format used can be copied and pasted right into Word, and the fonts then resized for printing. I was able to fit this entire output onto four printed pages by resizing to 8 point, and maximizing the margins.

I am going to add the option to output the information in plain text as well. I just started with the HTML output because I thought it would be easy to display on the board. I can also add the ability to output to a csv etc if people see any value to that.

Originally Posted by SkyDog

My only feedback for the creator of this utility is that it would be nice to have an option not to output guys who aren't on the most recent year's roster (although at times I'd love to have this history--specifically to see if one of those guys who I thought might break out one day, but couldn't keep on the roster for whatever reason, ever did.)

That is an easy option to add. I will try and put that in today.

[primelord]

Originally Posted by Subby

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

That would be great, but is far beyond anything I can do. It would require pulling the data out of the game and as Fido pointed out then figuring out the scouting algorithms and applying it to the raw data. If it would be difficult for Fido it would be impossible for me.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Subby

This is a great overview. It would be even nicer if we could see individual skill categories, however. I don't ever pay attention to the overall rating of a player...

The utility that I mentioned before, FOF Extractor, does this. I'll bump again. It takes a little work to do exactly what your asking, but it dumps all player information to a CSV file and then you can do what you will with it.

[Karim]

Is there any way to sort by position instead of alphabetically? It doesn't have to be in the utility. For instance, could I export the Excel and do this?

Looks great!

[primelord]

Originally Posted by Karim

Is there any way to sort by position instead of alphabetically? It doesn't have to be in the utility. For instance, could I export the Excel and do this?

Looks great!

I am actually in the process of making that change now.

[Karim]

Awesome!

[fantastic flying froggies]

Drool...

With your ability to output to excel format, you've just made my day !

[primelord]

Ok I am making some progress

Tucker Tigers Player Report

(2004 - 2008)

Name	Pos	2004 Current	2004 Future	2005 Current	2005 Future	2006 Current	2006 Future	2007 Current	2007 Future	2008 Current	2008 Future	Overall Current Change	Overall Future Change
Bowlware, Buddy	QB									16	40	0	0
Briley, Harry	QB	65	74	71 (6)	72 (-2)	74 (3)	74 (2)	73 (-1)	73 (-1)	70 (-3)	70 (-3)	5	-4
Glynn, Terrell	QB									34	34	0	0
Spencer, Bert	QB			23	42	34 (11)	44 (2)	44 (10)	44 (0)	47 (3)	47 (3)	24	5
Mastromonaco, Levon	RB					33	47	38 (5)	48 (1)	41 (3)	49 (1)	8	2
Riner, Maurice	RB			37	44	40 (3)	45 (1)	43 (3)	46 (1)	45 (2)	47 (1)	8	3
Robison, Courtney	RB									29	37	0	0
Rodgers, Harvey	RB					39	44	41 (2)	45 (1)	43 (2)	46 (1)	4	2
Glynn, Cary	FB									27	42	0	0
Montgomery, Dexter	FB							37	67	39 (2)	67 (0)	2	0
Everett, Gus	TE									19	37	0	0
Henderson, Norbert	TE	89	89	88 (-1)	88 (-1)	87 (-1)	87 (-1)	86 (-1)	86 (-1)	84 (-2)	84 (-2)	-5	-5
Stanton, Graham	TE					23	47	29 (6)	50 (3)	38 (9)	57 (7)	15	10
Barrale, Kenny	FL									30	51	0	0
Sanderson, Artie	FL									32	64	0	0
Dennis, Neal	SE									24	42	0	0
Gerhardt, Rick	SE									20	25	0	0
Humble, Arnulfo	SE							80	80	80 (0)	80 (0)	0	0
Munguia, Justin	C	84	86	83 (-1)	85 (-1)	82 (-1)	85 (0)	78 (-4)	82 (-3)	70 (-8)	74 (-8)	-14	-12
Sampson, Jackie	C			30	49	35 (5)	49 (0)	41 (6)	49 (0)	43 (2)	50 (1)	13	1
Wiggins, Brock	C									22	38	0	0
Ali, Tony	LG	75	75	74 (-1)	74 (-1)	71 (-3)	72 (-2)	71 (0)	72 (0)	72 (1)	72 (0)	-3	-3
Bridges, Vinny	LG									24	42	0	0
Hardy, Dustin	RG							41	41	39 (-2)	39 (-2)	-2	-2
Phillip, Jose	RG	85	88	87 (2)	88 (0)	85 (-2)	86 (-2)	85 (0)	86 (0)	85 (0)	87 (1)	0	-1
McWilliams, Monty	LT							22	50	26 (4)	53 (3)	4	3
Nakajo, Quinn	LT									11	38	0	0
Wells, Rex	LT									18	49	0	0
Deighton, Perry	RT									19	30	0	0
Young, Jason	RT			42	48	54 (12)	54 (6)	54 (0)	54 (0)	53 (-1)	53 (-1)	11	5
Holliday, Joseph	K							83	83	83 (0)	83 (0)	0	0
Escamilla, Carey	P	81	81	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	81 (0)	0	0
Hickson, Clay	LDE							65	65	65 (0)	65 (0)	0	0
Klingler, Adam	LDE					24	35	27 (3)	37 (2)	31 (4)	39 (2)	7	4
Gramatica, Daryl	LDT									22	37	0	0
Hett, Corey	LDT					22	40	29 (7)	41 (1)	32 (3)	41 (0)	10	1
Schwartz, Cary	LDT							21	40	23 (2)	40 (0)	2	0
Connor, Justin	RDT					22	35	27 (5)	36 (1)	29 (2)	39 (3)	7	4
Martin, Elias	RDT	74	74	49 (-25)	49 (-25)	48 (-1)	48 (-1)	48 (0)	48 (0)	47 (-1)	47 (-1)	-27	-27
Ackerman, Claude	RDE			22	27	23 (1)	27 (0)	26 (3)	28 (1)	27 (1)	29 (1)	5	2
Berry, George	RDE									27	38	0	0
Robison, Brady	RDE							58	58	58 (0)	58 (0)	0	0
Klinger, Jack	SLB			50	69	63 (13)	67 (-2)	71 (8)	71 (4)	51 (-20)	51 (-20)	1	-18
Rolfe, Donald	SLB									45	54	0	0
Bolsins, Antonio	MLB			27	55	30 (3)	50 (-5)	32 (2)	41 (-9)	33 (1)	41 (0)	6	-14
Velazquez, Franklin	MLB	75	75	72 (-3)	72 (-3)	72 (0)	72 (0)	73 (1)	73 (1)	70 (-3)	70 (-3)	-5	-5
Wheeler, Neal	MLB									18	34	0	0
Blackstock, Ronald	WLB							35	59	38 (3)	59 (0)	3	0
Clayton, Lester	WLB									14	35	0	0
Frederick, Louie	WLB			18	38	25 (7)	44 (6)	29 (4)	45 (1)	32 (3)	46 (1)	14	8
Celestine, Edmundo	LCB							51	51	49 (-2)	49 (-2)	-2	-2
Jaffe, Perry	LCB									17	32	0	0
Lewis, Jay	LCB			24	36	34 (10)	40 (4)	38 (4)	41 (1)	40 (2)	42 (1)	16	6
Brooks, Thomas	RCB									53	53	0	0
Hampton, Arnold	RCB					21	37	25 (4)	39 (2)	28 (3)	39 (0)	7	2
Riley, Joe	RCB									10	40	0	0
Casto, Arlie	SS							54	54	54 (0)	54 (0)	0	0
Wang, Gene	SS									19	35	0	0
Guthrie, Tom	FS					34	65	46 (12)	66 (1)	53 (7)	72 (6)	19	7
Kenworthy, Travis	FS									16	25	0	0

[primelord]

Dola,

I have added the option to either display all players or only players that were on the most recent roster. And I have changed it so it sorts by position. The position sorting is done the same way FOF sorts by position (atleast I think it is. I was doing it from memory. ). I have also added the option to putput the text in a format that can be slurped into excel.

I was thinking of color coding some of the table boxes in the html output. Does seem like a good idea? Something like green for a ratings increase and red for a decrease? Should that only be done for the overall columns?

[primelord]

Interesting... my html output seems to have sucked the whole bottom part of the thread into that post. Anyone have any ideas how to fix that?

[cuervo72]

I'm guessing there's a table tag somewhere you didn't close.

[primelord]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I'm guessing there's a table tag somewhere you didn't close.

That was it. I am stupid. Thanks cuervo!

[cuervo72]

Don't worry, I've done that many a time

[primelord]

Just a quick update. Right now the program is a command line program. (I am a unix programmer. Everything starts out as a command line program for me. ) I am starting to put together the little gui for it now. I should probably have something useable to release this weekend.

[FBPro]

Awesome, looking forward to it.

[Northwood_DK]

Bump

Any news on this great toy?

[primelord]

Yes I apologize work has slowed my progress on this. The command line version of the program is ready to go. It's the GUI that still needs a little work. I am going to package up the command line version, hopefully today, and let people start playing around with that if they want to until I get the gui version finished.

[druez]

I'm ok with a command line, great job primelord.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by primelord

Yes I apologize work has slowed my progress on this. The command line version of the program is ready to go. It's the GUI that still needs a little work. I am going to package up the command line version, hopefully today, and let people start playing around with that if they want to until I get the gui version finished.

Just in case you haven't read my PM, I'd just as soon bang away at the command line version.

[primelord]

Ok I am getting closer. I am working out one little problem and I should have something out tonight. Hopefully SkyDog will be around as I need someone to host it.

The command line version only does HTML output. I started adding the csv and text output into the now half finished GUI version.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by primelord

Ok I am getting closer. I am working out one little problem and I should have something out tonight. Hopefully SkyDog will be around as I need someone to host it.

The command line version only does HTML output. I started adding the csv and text output into the now half finished GUI version.

I'll be up for another hour or so I'm guessing. Keep me updated on how close you are, so I can know whether to stay up and wait on it, or go on to bed and get it in the morning.

[Ben E Lou]

Update?

[primelord]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Update?

Bah I am having problems with the stupid command line option that allows you to only display players who were on last years squad. (Wonder who requested that feature? )

It works fine before I try to compile into a stand alone windows executeable. Then it freaks out on me. I'll just e-mail it to you tonight Ben. And you can host it when you get it in the morning. (Assuming you don't mind hosting it.) Thanks.

[primelord]

Dola,

Actually I think I have it fixed now. I am getting ready to e-mail it to you.

[primelord]

I have sent my first contribution to the utility community to SkyDog. This code should be considered in very alpha stages. It is a very simple program so I don't suspect that there will be any problems, but I obviously don't take any responsibility for what it does.

As I have stated above it is a command line program at the moment. The GUI version is in the works, but I have not had much time to work on it lately. The program is written in Perl so it is not going to be the fastest thing on earth, but given it's simple nature I don't suspect you will have too many problems.

So here is what the program does at the moment.

change_tracker will track the changes in your players current and future estimate ratings. In order to track the changes you must print to file the Scout Overview roster screen. It doesn't need to be sorted in any specific way, but the files must be named in the following format (year).txt so for example for the 2004 season you would save the file as 2004.txt.

To run the program open up a DOS command prompt and run program from within that prompt window. Make sure the files you are tracking are in the same directory as the program. It will prompt you to enter the filenames you want to track. At the prompt enter all the files names you wish to use. They should all be entered on the same line seperated by a space, but can be in any order. The program however will read them in order by their names. So it will assume the file called 2004.txt is older than 2005.txt etc.

After you have entered all the file names just hit enter and it will create a file called player_report.html in the same directory. This will contain an HTML table with your tracked players.

If you only want to track players who were on the most recent roster you can run the following command.

change_tracker.exe -m short

This will only track players who were on the most recent years roster. The next version will have a lot more flexibility.

If you have any questions, comments, suggestions etc just let me know.

[Ben E Lou]

Heh. Outlook blocked access to the file, I assume because it is an EXE. Anyone know how to get around this? If not, we'll have to wait until primelord wakes up this morn, and I'll use a different e-mail program.

[Alf]

SkyDog. You're stuck until primelord sends it again (as a zip file). You can change your Outlook security settings somewhere (I don't have it in front of me) so that he doesn't screw you with what he supposes is "virus" program.

I know what you are talking about, because I had the same thing happen to me with an XL file (sent by me from work !!!)

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Alf

SkyDog. You're stuck until primelord sends it again (as a zip file). You can change your Outlook security settings somewhere (I don't have it in front of me) so that he doesn't screw you with what he supposes is "virus" program.

I know what you are talking about, because I had the same thing happen to me with an XL file (sent by me from work !!!)

I'm looking at the security settings, and don't see anything about attachments, just Digital ID's. I would feel pretty safe downgrading Outlook's security, considering that my anti-virus software company has a new auto-update just about every other day.

[primelord]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

I'm looking at the security settings, and don't see anything about attachments, just Digital ID's. I would feel pretty safe downgrading Outlook's security, considering that my anti-virus software company has a new auto-update just about every other day.

Well damn it. I was going to zip it up and then decided not to at the last minute.

Are you using Outlook or Outlook Express?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by primelord

Well damn it. I was going to zip it up and then decided not to at the last minute.

Are you using Outlook or Outlook Express?

Outlook. Let me know before you send it though, and I'll turn Outlook off, and then I can use the web-based client to retrieve it.

Or....you can zip it up.

[primelord]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Outlook. Let me know before you send it though, and I'll turn Outlook off, and then I can use the web-based client to retrieve it.

Or....you can zip it up.

Ok I am just going to forward it again now. If you still have problems I will zip it up. It is on it's way.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by primelord

Ok I am just going to forward it again now. If you still have problems I will zip it up. It is on it's way.

'K. Just turned Outlook off.

[Ben E Lou]

Working like a charm!

Tucker Tigers Player Report

(2006 - 2010)

Name	Pos	2006 Current	2006 Future	2007 Current	2007 Future	2008 Current	2008 Future	2009 Current	2009 Future	2010 Current	2010 Future	Overall Current Change	Overall Future Change
Bronson, Don	QB							28	53	32 (4)	55 (2)	4	2
Jackman, Carl	QB			40	43	41 (1)	41 (-2)	43 (2)	43 (2)	37 (-6)	37 (-6)	-3	-6
Nichols, Irv	QB									19	34	0	0
Terrell, Jackie	QB	74	74	74 (0)	74 (0)	74 (0)	74 (0)	74 (0)	74 (0)	75 (1)	75 (1)	1	1
Benson, Gene	RB									28	40	0	0
Blackwell, Louie	RB									24	33	0	0
Moulds, Ben	RB							28	37	23 (-5)	31 (-6)	-5	-6
Romund, Danny	RB	43	45	45 (2)	45 (0)	45 (0)	46 (1)	46 (1)	46 (0)	46 (0)	46 (0)	3	1
Watkins, Dexter	RB							35	46	40 (5)	49 (3)	5	3
Pate, Jose	FB	51	80	83 (32)	83 (3)	82 (-1)	82 (-1)	83 (1)	83 (1)	81 (-2)	81 (-2)	30	1
Haines, Terrell	TE	48	63	68 (20)	68 (5)	67 (-1)	67 (-1)	68 (1)	68 (1)	70 (2)	70 (2)	22	7
Lyons, Ike	TE							20	39	23 (3)	39 (0)	3	0
Seigler, Marvin	TE							27	49	31 (4)	45 (-4)	4	-4
Stokes, Freddie	TE									13	27	0	0
Everett, Isaac	FL									11	24	0	0
Foreman, Winfred	FL	29	39	37 (8)	40 (1)	39 (2)	41 (1)	39 (0)	42 (1)	40 (1)	42 (0)	11	3
Garrison, Cornelius	FL	41	59	63 (22)	63 (4)	64 (1)	64 (1)	66 (2)	66 (2)	68 (2)	68 (2)	27	9
Mathews, Byron	FL							18	34	22 (4)	35 (1)	4	1
Oksenberg, Korey	FL									26	51	0	0
Arvold, Chester	SE	33	36	38 (5)	38 (2)	37 (-1)	37 (-1)	37 (0)	37 (0)	36 (-1)	36 (-1)	3	0
Kripper, Adrian	SE			44	53	46 (2)	53 (0)	56 (10)	56 (3)	57 (1)	57 (1)	13	4
Garrett, Eddie	C									20	45	0	0
Kemp, Dexter	C			30	66	36 (6)	71 (5)	50 (14)	71 (0)	61 (11)	72 (1)	31	6
Lydon, Scottie	C							14	41	17 (3)	44 (3)	3	3
Brinkley, Luther	LG									21	40	0	0
Collier, Josh	LG					50	50	52 (2)	52 (2)	53 (1)	53 (1)	3	3
Tubbs, Albert	LG							20	48	22 (2)	48 (0)	2	0
Walling, Marshall	LG			20	49	22 (2)	49 (0)	26 (4)	49 (0)	29 (3)	50 (1)	9	1
Bauer, Clyde	RG			19	49	21 (2)	49 (0)	22 (1)	48 (-1)	28 (6)	48 (0)	9	-1
Blow, Duane	RG					50	51	50 (0)	52 (1)	50 (0)	52 (0)	0	1
Ellison, Ike	RG									14	27	0	0
Finch, Marty	LT	47	63	60 (13)	62 (-1)	62 (2)	62 (0)	66 (4)	66 (4)	67 (1)	67 (1)	20	4
Glaze, Austin	LT									10	41	0	0
Caraway, Dennis	RT					21	36	23 (2)	36 (0)	26 (3)	40 (4)	5	4
Foreman, Trevor	RT							25	40	30 (5)	40 (0)	5	0
Osterlund, Aaron	RT					51	51	52 (1)	52 (1)	52 (0)	52 (0)	1	1
Shields, Joel	K									43	43	0	0
Hudgins, Roger	P					59	72	70 (11)	71 (-1)	74 (4)	74 (3)	15	2
Hatcher, Nick	LDE									38	38	0	0
Matos, Jerry	LDE	34	43	41 (7)	44 (1)	46 (5)	47 (3)	49 (3)	49 (2)	49 (0)	49 (0)	15	6
Sullivan, Brian	LDE	33	65	43 (10)	65 (0)	47 (4)	65 (0)	56 (9)	64 (-1)	62 (6)	65 (1)	29	0
Carlson, Kim	LDT	63	82	84 (21)	84 (2)	56 (-28)	56 (-28)	55 (-1)	55 (-1)	39 (-16)	39 (-16)	-24	-43
Dillon, Andrew	LDT							57	63	64 (7)	64 (1)	7	1
Bates, Bennie	RDT									40	49	0	0
Poffenroth, Joel	RDT					46	50	48 (2)	48 (-2)	53 (5)	53 (5)	7	3
Rivera, Winfred	RDT									22	28	0	0
Franklin, Stanley	RDE									29	54	0	0
Kearse, Jonathan	RDE	30	42	39 (9)	44 (2)	42 (3)	45 (1)	46 (4)	46 (1)	46 (0)	46 (0)	16	4
Keller, Emmanuel	SLB									16	28	0	0
Lyle, Bart	SLB									42	42	0	0
Wisniewski, Troy	SLB					30	63	41 (11)	63 (0)	53 (12)	64 (1)	23	1
Bronson, Allen	MLB			25	44	30 (5)	48 (4)	33 (3)	50 (2)	37 (4)	51 (1)	12	7
Orosco, Steven	MLB	29	53	43 (14)	53 (0)	46 (3)	53 (0)	51 (5)	53 (0)	51 (0)	54 (1)	22	1
Wells, Nate	MLB									21	57	0	0
Beach, Mo	WLB					35	38	58 (23)	58 (20)	59 (1)	59 (1)	24	21
Burks, Blake	LCB									10	34	0	0
England, Scottie	LCB	18	47	30 (12)	48 (1)	36 (6)	51 (3)	49 (13)	53 (2)	54 (5)	55 (2)	36	8
Sandberg, Dustin	LCB	20	34	24 (4)	35 (1)	27 (3)	36 (1)	33 (6)	37 (1)	38 (5)	38 (1)	18	4
Weikel, Lester	LCB	58	58	58 (0)	58 (0)	60 (2)	60 (2)	60 (0)	60 (0)	61 (1)	61 (1)	3	3
Getsy, Rondell	RCB									51	51	0	0
Gomez, Luke	RCB					21	42	22 (1)	33 (-9)	24 (2)	33 (0)	3	-9
Lyle, Brant	RCB			25	42	29 (4)	44 (2)	34 (5)	45 (1)	42 (8)	46 (1)	17	4
Rehberg, Jared	RCB					67	71	68 (1)	72 (1)	69 (1)	72 (0)	2	1
Flannery, Andre	SS							53	53	53 (0)	53 (0)	0	0
Pearson, Floyd	SS			37	41	38 (1)	38 (-3)	39 (1)	39 (1)	38 (-1)	38 (-1)	1	-3
Rainville, Donnell	SS									15	29	0	0
Greer, Gino	FS									53	71	0	0

Uploading now.

[Ben E Lou]

Download Link For The Utility

Once the GUI version is finished, let's start a new thread for this, and I'll link to it in the archive thread.