OOTP6 Info - No screenshots yet though

Cuckoo · 02-17-2004, 10:04 AM

Posted this morning

Senator · 02-17-2004, 10:23 AM

Skydog gets his swipe in!

Ben E Lou · 02-17-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Senator

Skydog gets his swipe in!

corbes · 02-17-2004, 10:33 AM

I'm sure I could find this if I looked hard enough, but what would you like to see included, Skydog?

tucker342 · 02-17-2004, 10:39 AM

Have they released any info about the features?

That's cool that the old engine is going to be an option that can be turned on.

FBPro · 02-17-2004, 11:48 AM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...threadid=41389

CraigSca · 02-17-2004, 11:48 AM

I second this, Skydog - what new features and tweaks were you looking for?

Ben E Lou · 02-17-2004, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

I second this, Skydog - what new features and tweaks were you looking for?

Oh...nothing in particular. It is a joke dating back to OOTP 4 or 5, I can't remember which. I played the game for a few days, made four or five suggestions for small additions/tweaks, and every single one of them was included--apparently including at least one that had suggested by many people in a previous version and never got implemented. People were joking that I must have had some dirt on Markus or something.

CraigSca · 02-17-2004, 11:59 AM

Hehe - oh, ok - my bad. I've been here for a while - not sure why I never noticed this.

Bonegavel · 02-17-2004, 02:09 PM

What is DIPS?

CraigSca · 02-17-2004, 02:30 PM

Defense Independent Pitching Statistics. Basically some thought-provoking research by Voros McCracken (and further refined by Tom Tippett) that says pitchers influence strikeouts, walks, and homeruns, but when the ball is hit in play, there's very little difference between Goose Gossage and Atlee Hammaker. There are some adjustments to be made, but the overall picture is accurate.

kingnebwsu · 02-17-2004, 04:41 PM

I hope the new engine produces realistic post-season results, which I don't think happened at all with the previous engine. Here's to hoping!

CraigSca · 02-17-2004, 05:08 PM

King,

Can you clarify what you mean by unrealistic postseason results?

Thanks,

Craig

MizzouRah · 02-17-2004, 06:45 PM

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OK, the new simulation engine is fully implemented, and it works like a charm. Funny thing is, that this changes more than I thought... for example, those freak seasons where a player really under- or overperforms is now as common as in real life, this makes the game less predictable and harder. Also, thanks to research in the area, defense now actually plays the role it does in real life

In previous version, it was overrated and influenced the results too much and in a wrong way... this has been drastically changed and now works the way it should.

Why does he have to post things like this??

Great news, Markus.

Todd

Easy Mac · 02-17-2004, 07:12 PM

So Pat Burrell is accurately simluated in OOTP6 then?

John Galt · 02-17-2004, 07:14 PM

Damn it. I don't want to get excited about OOTP again. Every year it lets me down, but I just want to believe. I want the perfect baseball sim. Damn it - I'm getting excited again.

ISiddiqui · 02-17-2004, 07:17 PM

Want the game... want the game...

Screenshots NOW!

Easy Mac · 02-17-2004, 07:17 PM

I love JG in a purely non sexual or platonic way

Buccaneer · 02-17-2004, 07:27 PM

Expecting the perfect baseball sim, Galt? No wonder you get let down each year. Try being more sensible then you would enjoy it more.

oykib · 02-17-2004, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

Damn it. I don't want to get excited about OOTP again. Every year it lets me down, but I just want to believe. I want the perfect baseball sim. Damn it - I'm getting excited again.

Exactly. I keep buying it. But I never play it. There's just somethig missing and I can't identify it.

John Galt · 02-17-2004, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Expecting the perfect baseball sim, Galt? No wonder you get let down each year. Try being more sensible then you would enjoy it more.

I don't expect perfection, but I'll never stop wanting it. And I'm not terribly picky about a lot of things, but some things just annoyed the hell out of me in the past. The inclusion of DIPS is the primary reason for my excitement this year, but something else will probably let me down. I can't help it - baseball is my favorite sport and I want to see it done right.

FBPro · 02-17-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

I don't expect perfection, but I'll never stop wanting it. And I'm not terribly picky about a lot of things, but some things just annoyed the hell out of me in the past. The inclusion of DIPS is the primary reason for my excitement this year, but something else will probably let me down. I can't help it - baseball is my favorite sport and I want to see it done right.

Done right? Friggin' MLB is the MOST screwed up of any sports "organization/league" I know.

John Galt · 02-17-2004, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FBPro

Done right? Friggin' MLB is the MOST screwed up of any sports "organization/league" I know.

If you are referring to the small/large market disparity in baseball, then I strongly disagree. I'm a much bigger fan of baseball's slow changing power structure than the constant turnover, parity ridden NFL.

If you are referring to Bud Selig's influence on the game, then I couldn't agree more. He is pure evil and should be killed.

FBPro · 02-17-2004, 08:00 PM

I wouldn't want the parity that the NFL has BUT in it's current state it is headed down the toilet.

(edited for accuracy)

Buccaneer · 02-17-2004, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

I don't expect perfection, but I'll never stop wanting it. And I'm not terribly picky about a lot of things, but some things just annoyed the hell out of me in the past. The inclusion of DIPS is the primary reason for my excitement this year, but something else will probably let me down. I can't help it - baseball is my favorite sport and I want to see it done right.

Probably the same way I feel about football sims, none of them is playable to me as SP game yet. But baseball is a very different sport (and thus, sim) and I think one can get away (or overlook) things more. Imo.

MizzouRah · 02-17-2004, 09:11 PM

To me, I'm more forgiving with baseball sims. There just seems to be so much to get right, that even on v6, I'm sure there will be things that annoy people. That's why we have versions year after year of sports sims.

I'll play the heck out of it until football season is upon us again.

Todd

02-17-2004, 10:23 AM	#2
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Skydog gets his swipe in! __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

02-17-2004, 11:48 AM	#6
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...threadid=41389 __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

02-17-2004, 05:08 PM	#13
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	King, Can you clarify what you mean by unrealistic postseason results? Thanks, Craig Last edited by CraigSca : 02-17-2004 at 05:08 PM.

02-17-2004, 07:14 PM	#16
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Damn it. I don't want to get excited about OOTP again. Every year it lets me down, but I just want to believe. I want the perfect baseball sim. Damn it - I'm getting excited again. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

02-17-2004, 07:17 PM	#17
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Want the game... want the game... Screenshots NOW! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-17-2004, 10:33 AM	#4
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm sure I could find this if I looked hard enough, but what would you like to see included, Skydog?

02-17-2004, 10:39 AM	#5
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Have they released any info about the features? That's cool that the old engine is going to be an option that can be turned on.

02-17-2004, 11:59 AM	#9
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Hehe - oh, ok - my bad. I've been here for a while - not sure why I never noticed this.

02-17-2004, 02:09 PM	#10
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	What is DIPS?

02-17-2004, 02:30 PM	#11
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Defense Independent Pitching Statistics. Basically some thought-provoking research by Voros McCracken (and further refined by Tom Tippett) that says pitchers influence strikeouts, walks, and homeruns, but when the ball is hit in play, there's very little difference between Goose Gossage and Atlee Hammaker. There are some adjustments to be made, but the overall picture is accurate.

02-17-2004, 04:41 PM	#12
kingnebwsu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ohio	I hope the new engine produces realistic post-season results, which I don't think happened at all with the previous engine. Here's to hoping!

02-17-2004, 07:12 PM	#15
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	So Pat Burrell is accurately simluated in OOTP6 then?

02-17-2004, 07:27 PM	#19
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Expecting the perfect baseball sim, Galt? No wonder you get let down each year. Try being more sensible then you would enjoy it more.

02-17-2004, 08:00 PM	#24
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	I wouldn't want the parity that the NFL has BUT in it's current state it is headed down the toilet. (edited for accuracy) __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025 Last edited by FBPro : 02-17-2004 at 08:22 PM.

02-17-2004, 09:11 PM	#26
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	To me, I'm more forgiving with baseball sims. There just seems to be so much to get right, that even on v6, I'm sure there will be things that annoy people. That's why we have versions year after year of sports sims. I'll play the heck out of it until football season is upon us again. Todd

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