Funny John Kerry Picture

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 10:54 AM

All politics aside, can anyone seriously consider voting for a Presidential candidate who looks like this when attempting to catch a football?!

WSUCougar · 03-08-2004, 10:58 AM

All politics aside, are there any pictures of John Kerry that AREN'T funny?

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 10:59 AM

Good point.

wishbone · 03-08-2004, 11:00 AM

Steve Largent for President!!!

rkmsuf · 03-08-2004, 11:00 AM

Catch with your hands dammit, not your face...

kserra · 03-08-2004, 11:05 AM

One of my favorite assignments for my students is to examine photos from newspapers portraying political leaders. Often times, high schoolers are surprised that news outlets can have political bias, but they quickly catch on after this work...

It happens with both liberal and conservative outlets and is a great source of amusement for me...

Usually within a few weeks, even my politically uninterested students can tell you what papers are more liberal/conservative...which helps them become much more aware of slants and views that aren't always "Fair and Balanced"

If only more American adults were aware of the manipulation the press can use to alter your views of a particular leader...

The next 8 months should produce some great photo ops on both Bush and Kerry...

Nice post...

Kevin

Solecismic · 03-08-2004, 11:06 AM

That style has worked for Koren Robinson. Maybe Kerry's secretly a Seahawks fan.

kserra · 03-08-2004, 11:07 AM

This will also help some of my freshmen receivers catch better. Once they see how stupid they look catching like this they'll have no choice but to USE YOUR HANDS...SEE THE BALL INTO YOUR HANDS...CONCENTRATE ON THE TIP OF THE BALL...DON'T CLOSE YOUR EYES...damnit Kerry...what am I going to do with you...put Cheney in...

Kevin

Maple Leafs · 03-08-2004, 11:59 AM

I would never vote for someone who couldn't handle a simple, red-blooded American activity. Like catching a football, or eating pretzels while watching football.

WussGawd · 03-08-2004, 12:04 PM

Hmm. FWIW, Kerry has a bum shoulder. From today's CNN news round up (their Morning Grind column):

"CNN's Mike Roselli tells us that Kerry may have surgery on his right shoulder in the coming weeks and may take a weeklong vacation soon (location TBA). Kerry hurt his shoulder on a bus in Iowa this winter. He told the press about the operation 30 minutes after he was seen tossing a softball on the airport tarmac in San Antonio on Saturday."

This might, or might not, have something to do with it.

KevinNU7 · 03-08-2004, 12:05 PM

If you ignore the football in the picutre it looks like an interpetive dance.

vex · 03-08-2004, 12:06 PM

loser

rkmsuf · 03-08-2004, 12:08 PM

He looks like he is crapping his pants...

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 12:09 PM

He looks like he was about to make a smooth catch until someone stabbed him behind the kneecap.

The Afoci · 03-08-2004, 12:12 PM

Kerry kicks off the Special Olympics Super Bowl by playing catch with MVP QB Corky.

rkmsuf · 03-08-2004, 12:13 PM

If it was a bullet pass the ball creamed that guy in the backround...

kserra · 03-08-2004, 12:18 PM

Flashback to Vietnam...

INCOMING!!!!

Guess Bush has an advantage there...incoming meant a new shipment of booze or coke for him in the 60's, 70's, and 80's...

Kevin

QuikSand · 03-08-2004, 12:18 PM

Honestly now... "looking like a dork" is not a strong attribute for a man seeking the nation's highest office. It's staggering how easy politics can be to predict sometimes, by just looking at the lowest common denominator.

I think back to Phil Gramm of Texas, who ran for Prez a few years ago (my memory fails me... 1996?). In my judgment, he was as smart and articulate a candidate as the conservatives had to offer for the GOP nomination. But, the poor guy looked fat and bald and pretty unattractive, and his drawl sounded like Huckleberry Hound. He never had any chance to win a damned thing.

Vegas Vic · 03-08-2004, 12:21 PM

I chuckle when I see politicians doing sports related photo-ops. Usually, they end up with less than desirable results.

Presidential golfers are among some of the worst. As a kid, one of my first memories of a president was seeing Gerald Ford almost kill an old lady with an errant tee shot. I remember thinking to myself that the safest place to watch Ford play would be in the middle of the fairway.

kserra · 03-08-2004, 12:43 PM

yeah...if I ever see another photo of Clinton running in those little shorts...I will puke all over myself...

Poor Chelsea, she might have the brains, but in terms of looks, she never had a shot...and, it seems like most posters here, I think within the next 20 years, looks will become the #1 feature of our leaders...it's just where we are headed...

Now, if we had a system like England, where the leaders actually have to respond to challenges and debate their opponents regularly w/o it being totally scripted, it might be different. But with American style politics, I see us heading towards an ever more Glitz and Glamour style, where looks, sound bites, and pre-arranged speaking engagements rule the day... OH wait, it's already happening???

How great would it be to see Bush in Congress responding to a barb from Daschle...English majors the world over are cringing at the thought...

Kevin

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Honestly now... "looking like a dork" is not a strong attribute for a man seeking the nation's highest office. It's staggering how easy politics can be to predict sometimes, by just looking at the lowest common denominator.

I think back to Phil Gramm of Texas, who ran for Prez a few years ago (my memory fails me... 1996?). In my judgment, he was as smart and articulate a candidate as the conservatives had to offer for the GOP nomination. But, the poor guy looked fat and bald and pretty unattractive, and his drawl sounded like Huckleberry Hound. He never had any chance to win a damned thing.

It's true. I felt the same way about Phil Gramm. Some people are capable, they just have natural limitations that preclude them from higher aspirations. I felt the same way about Bob Dole, actually (playing the role of crotchety old man), and I think the only reason he even got to be the nominee is that the party was looking for someone to sacrifice to Clinton's re-election, and the guy kept insisting that he deserved his shot, so he got what he asked for.

Of course, there's the famous "Dukakis in the tank" image, which is still fresh 16 years later.

rkmsuf · 03-08-2004, 12:46 PM

I'll give the British that; watching Blair trade barbs and hearing the cat calls is entertaining...

WSUCougar · 03-08-2004, 12:52 PM

He was a little pissed at the quarterback after the play, too...

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 12:58 PM

Apparently I'm behind on the "John Kerry is a dork" movement...

hxxp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087684/posts

cthomer5000 · 03-08-2004, 01:07 PM

He's looking like Jerry Rice in this shot:

WSUCougar · 03-08-2004, 01:09 PM

Vertical leap: 3"

rkmsuf · 03-08-2004, 01:10 PM

If this politics things doesn't work out perhaps the Jets will give him a look...

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 01:12 PM

Notice that we have to rely on the caption to tell us he made the catch. Clearly another example of left-wing media bias.

To be fair, the picture of Bush on the last page, looking through binoculars with the lens caps on, is pretty funny. Although apparently Clinton used to do the same for the sake of a photo op, so maybe he isn't as incompetent as that picture would suggest...

Kodos · 03-08-2004, 01:25 PM

I don't think Republicans really want to turn this into which Presidential candidate looks dumber in pictures debate. Kerry may look like an idiot in some of these shots, but he's no "W.".

Pictures courtesy of Bushorchimp.com.

korme · 03-08-2004, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

That style has worked for Koren Robinson. Maybe Kerry's secretly a Seahawks fan.

Ksyrup · 03-08-2004, 01:31 PM

That wasn't my intention, just a funny pic. However, aside from the last picture of him picking his nose as a 20-something (at least that' s how old that picture looks to me), those other pictures really aren't funny in and of themselves. I've seen the same thing done with Kerry pictures. Kerry's pictures - many of them - are funny without needing to compare them to anything.

Passacaglia · 03-08-2004, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

It's staggering how easy politics can be to predict sometimes, by just looking at the lowest common denominator.

How true.

kserra · 03-08-2004, 01:36 PM

Bush...flight suit...banana...

Go to the Drudge report you can even order an action figure of him...notice, you can't buy a version of Bush from his Vietnam days...he was...busy...yeah that's it...

If I knew how to post the picture, I would, but with the "No Child Left Behind" program...sadly, I've been left behind...

cuervo72 · 03-08-2004, 01:38 PM

Not as good as the one floating around where Kerry looks like Gomer Pyle....

Desnudo · 03-08-2004, 02:02 PM

It's pretty easy to find a picture of anyone that makes them look silly. I think we all have those drunk, halfway turned around, eyelids half shut, 'wtf are you doing taking a picture?' pictures somewhere in our closets. And that could easily be a photo of Daniel Graham of the New England Patriots.

TargetPractice6 · 03-08-2004, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Notice that we have to rely on the caption to tell us he made the catch. Clearly another example of left-wing media bias.

To be fair, the picture of Bush on the last page, looking through binoculars with the lens caps on, is pretty funny. Although apparently Clinton used to do the same for the sake of a photo op, so maybe he isn't as incompetent as that picture would suggest...

http://www.snopes.com/photos/binoculars.asp

The Afoci · 03-08-2004, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kserra

If I knew how to post the picture, I would, but with the "No Child Left Behind" program...sadly, I've been left behind...

Yeah, that is the governments fault you didn't study. Do you need them to help you pee too?

dawgfan · 03-08-2004, 04:42 PM

Kerry might not be as uncoordinated as that picture suggests - it's possible the sun was in his eyes, or the throw caught him completely off-guard.

I know I know, I'm reaching, but that's the thing with pictures - without the context they can sometimes be misleading...

Senator · 03-08-2004, 05:30 PM

Senator · 03-08-2004, 05:34 PM

Dola. I worked on the Gramm campaign. He had alot of money, I thought maybe we could have a chance, but he made it clear he wanted to be himself. For one of the smartest politicians I have ever spent alot of time with, I could never understand why he would not understand what he was projecting.

Desnudo · 03-08-2004, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator

Dola. I worked on the Gramm campaign. He had alot of money, I thought maybe we could have a chance, but he made it clear he wanted to be himself. For one of the smartest politicians I have ever spent alot of time with, I could never understand why he would not understand what he was projecting.

Idealism vs. Realism?

kcchief19 · 03-08-2004, 06:12 PM

Hey, of course he's going to look silly playing football -- the man's a hockey player.

vex · 03-08-2004, 06:27 PM

Michael Vick can do both

tucker342 · 03-08-2004, 07:26 PM

Ya that is a pretty funny picture

maybe it's just me, but I don't really care how good a person running for president is at a certain sport

Desnudo · 03-08-2004, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Hey, of course he's going to look silly playing football -- the man's a hockey player.

He went to UNH?

WussGawd · 03-08-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vexroid

Michael Vick can do both

I'm not even sure Michael Vick can play football to the level of hype he's gotten.

BishopMVP · 05-03-2004, 04:38 PM

Now we've got the cycling John Kerry - http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...rry-bike_x.htm

Real reason why I posted this

Quote:

Kerry was riding south on a two-lane road at about 1:00 p.m. in the direction of Walden Pond State Reservation in Concord, a quiet, suburban town about 18 miles northwest of Boston.
He was approaching a stop light at the intersection with Route 2 and was slowing down when he veered left into the oncoming lane and fell, according to an Associated Press reporter who witnessed him fall. Secret Service agents and local police immediately stopped traffic while Kerry and a handful of bicycling companions moved to the shoulder.

It happened literally down the road from my house. To be fair, that part of the road does have a lot of sand, and I could see how someone riding a road bike could have trouble. It's just hilarious picturing that intersection with Secret Service and the CPD stopping traffic because Kerry veered into traffic.

SFL Cat · 05-03-2004, 05:13 PM

Kerry: #%^@^&, It was the f*cking sun. I don't drop footballs, dammit.

amdaily · 05-03-2004, 05:50 PM

Let's try a side by side view:

03-08-2004, 10:58 AM	#2
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	All politics aside, are there any pictures of John Kerry that AREN'T funny? __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

03-08-2004, 10:59 AM	#3
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Good point. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-08-2004, 11:00 AM	#5
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Catch with your hands dammit, not your face... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-08-2004, 11:59 AM	#9
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I would never vote for someone who couldn't handle a simple, red-blooded American activity. Like catching a football, or eating pretzels while watching football. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-08-2004, 12:04 PM	#10
WussGawd College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy	Hmm. FWIW, Kerry has a bum shoulder. From today's CNN news round up (their Morning Grind column): "CNN's Mike Roselli tells us that Kerry may have surgery on his right shoulder in the coming weeks and may take a weeklong vacation soon (location TBA). Kerry hurt his shoulder on a bus in Iowa this winter. He told the press about the operation 30 minutes after he was seen tossing a softball on the airport tarmac in San Antonio on Saturday." This might, or might not, have something to do with it. __________________ "I guess I'll fade into Bolivian." -Mike Tyson, after being knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Proud Dumba Elect of the "Biggest Dumba of FOFC Award" Author of the 2004 Golden Scribe Gold Trophy for Best Basketball Dynasty, It Rhymes With Puke.

03-08-2004, 11:00 AM	#4
wishbone High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hillsboro OR	Steve Largent for President!!!

03-08-2004, 11:05 AM	#6
kserra H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	One of my favorite assignments for my students is to examine photos from newspapers portraying political leaders. Often times, high schoolers are surprised that news outlets can have political bias, but they quickly catch on after this work... It happens with both liberal and conservative outlets and is a great source of amusement for me... Usually within a few weeks, even my politically uninterested students can tell you what papers are more liberal/conservative...which helps them become much more aware of slants and views that aren't always "Fair and Balanced" If only more American adults were aware of the manipulation the press can use to alter your views of a particular leader... The next 8 months should produce some great photo ops on both Bush and Kerry... Nice post... Kevin

03-08-2004, 11:06 AM	#7
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	That style has worked for Koren Robinson. Maybe Kerry's secretly a Seahawks fan.

03-08-2004, 11:07 AM	#8
kserra H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	This will also help some of my freshmen receivers catch better. Once they see how stupid they look catching like this they'll have no choice but to USE YOUR HANDS...SEE THE BALL INTO YOUR HANDS...CONCENTRATE ON THE TIP OF THE BALL...DON'T CLOSE YOUR EYES...damnit Kerry...what am I going to do with you...put Cheney in... Kevin

03-08-2004, 12:05 PM	#11
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	If you ignore the football in the picutre it looks like an interpetive dance. __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

03-08-2004, 12:06 PM	#12
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	loser

03-08-2004, 12:08 PM	#13
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	He looks like he is crapping his pants... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-08-2004, 12:09 PM	#14
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He looks like he was about to make a smooth catch until someone stabbed him behind the kneecap. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-08-2004, 12:12 PM	#15
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	Kerry kicks off the Special Olympics Super Bowl by playing catch with MVP QB Corky. __________________ I had something.

03-08-2004, 12:13 PM	#16
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	If it was a bullet pass the ball creamed that guy in the backround... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-08-2004, 12:18 PM	#17
kserra H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	Flashback to Vietnam... INCOMING!!!! Guess Bush has an advantage there...incoming meant a new shipment of booze or coke for him in the 60's, 70's, and 80's... Kevin

03-08-2004, 12:18 PM	#18
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Honestly now... "looking like a dork" is not a strong attribute for a man seeking the nation's highest office. It's staggering how easy politics can be to predict sometimes, by just looking at the lowest common denominator. I think back to Phil Gramm of Texas, who ran for Prez a few years ago (my memory fails me... 1996?). In my judgment, he was as smart and articulate a candidate as the conservatives had to offer for the GOP nomination. But, the poor guy looked fat and bald and pretty unattractive, and his drawl sounded like Huckleberry Hound. He never had any chance to win a damned thing.

03-08-2004, 12:21 PM	#19
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	I chuckle when I see politicians doing sports related photo-ops. Usually, they end up with less than desirable results. Presidential golfers are among some of the worst. As a kid, one of my first memories of a president was seeing Gerald Ford almost kill an old lady with an errant tee shot. I remember thinking to myself that the safest place to watch Ford play would be in the middle of the fairway.

03-08-2004, 12:43 PM	#20
kserra H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	yeah...if I ever see another photo of Clinton running in those little shorts...I will puke all over myself... Poor Chelsea, she might have the brains, but in terms of looks, she never had a shot...and, it seems like most posters here, I think within the next 20 years, looks will become the #1 feature of our leaders...it's just where we are headed... Now, if we had a system like England, where the leaders actually have to respond to challenges and debate their opponents regularly w/o it being totally scripted, it might be different. But with American style politics, I see us heading towards an ever more Glitz and Glamour style, where looks, sound bites, and pre-arranged speaking engagements rule the day... OH wait, it's already happening??? How great would it be to see Bush in Congress responding to a barb from Daschle...English majors the world over are cringing at the thought... Kevin Last edited by kserra : 03-08-2004 at 01:11 PM.

03-08-2004, 12:46 PM	#22
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I'll give the British that; watching Blair trade barbs and hearing the cat calls is entertaining... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-08-2004, 12:52 PM	#23
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	He was a little pissed at the quarterback after the play, too... __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

03-08-2004, 12:58 PM	#24
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Apparently I'm behind on the "John Kerry is a dork" movement... hxxp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087684/posts __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-08-2004, 01:09 PM	#26
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Vertical leap: 3" __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

03-08-2004, 01:10 PM	#27
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	If this politics things doesn't work out perhaps the Jets will give him a look... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-08-2004, 01:12 PM	#28
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Notice that we have to rely on the caption to tell us he made the catch. Clearly another example of left-wing media bias. To be fair, the picture of Bush on the last page, looking through binoculars with the lens caps on, is pretty funny. Although apparently Clinton used to do the same for the sake of a photo op, so maybe he isn't as incompetent as that picture would suggest... __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 03-08-2004 at 01:12 PM.

03-08-2004, 01:25 PM	#29
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I don't think Republicans really want to turn this into which Presidential candidate looks dumber in pictures debate. Kerry may look like an idiot in some of these shots, but he's no "W.". Pictures courtesy of Bushorchimp.com. Last edited by Kodos : 03-08-2004 at 01:26 PM.

03-08-2004, 01:31 PM	#31
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That wasn't my intention, just a funny pic. However, aside from the last picture of him picking his nose as a 20-something (at least that' s how old that picture looks to me), those other pictures really aren't funny in and of themselves. I've seen the same thing done with Kerry pictures. Kerry's pictures - many of them - are funny without needing to compare them to anything. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-08-2004, 01:36 PM	#33
kserra H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Brighton, MI	Bush...flight suit...banana... Go to the Drudge report you can even order an action figure of him...notice, you can't buy a version of Bush from his Vietnam days...he was...busy...yeah that's it... If I knew how to post the picture, I would, but with the "No Child Left Behind" program...sadly, I've been left behind...

03-08-2004, 01:38 PM	#34
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Not as good as the one floating around where Kerry looks like Gomer Pyle.... __________________ null

03-08-2004, 02:02 PM	#35
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	It's pretty easy to find a picture of anyone that makes them look silly. I think we all have those drunk, halfway turned around, eyelids half shut, 'wtf are you doing taking a picture?' pictures somewhere in our closets. And that could easily be a photo of Daniel Graham of the New England Patriots.

03-08-2004, 04:42 PM	#38
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Kerry might not be as uncoordinated as that picture suggests - it's possible the sun was in his eyes, or the throw caught him completely off-guard. I know I know, I'm reaching, but that's the thing with pictures - without the context they can sometimes be misleading...

03-08-2004, 05:30 PM	#39
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	__________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

03-08-2004, 05:34 PM	#40
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Dola. I worked on the Gramm campaign. He had alot of money, I thought maybe we could have a chance, but he made it clear he wanted to be himself. For one of the smartest politicians I have ever spent alot of time with, I could never understand why he would not understand what he was projecting. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

03-08-2004, 06:12 PM	#42
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Hey, of course he's going to look silly playing football -- the man's a hockey player.

03-08-2004, 06:27 PM	#43
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Michael Vick can do both