Poll: What if Barry tested negative today?

miami_fan · 03-09-2004, 07:16 AM

With Damon Stoudamire being applauded for stepping up and taking a reporter's challenge for an on the spot drug test, calls have come out for Barry Bonds and other baseball to do the same. The justification being that this will prove whether or not they are clean. My question is will it really convince anybody that they had not used steriods in the past. Would it make the records of the last 15 years any more legit? IMO it will not. I listened to the Portland reporter who gave Stoudamire his test. He said all the test proved was on that day Stoudamire was clean for the 5 substances. Would it not be the same for Bonds? Now I am going on the assumption that the leading players in MLB would not be stupid enough to be caught using steriods at this point.

MizzouRah · 03-09-2004, 07:19 AM

If frogs had wings......

Todd

sterlingice · 03-09-2004, 07:25 AM

Bonds runs into trouble because he's already looks really guilty. First the allegations that have been flying for years because of his body and now the whole BALCO thing. I'm not sure he can prove his innocence right now because there's so much stacked against him. The only way most people would believe him is if there was a test that showed steroids in the blood for up to 5 years or something.

SI

Samdari · 03-09-2004, 08:19 AM

Actually need a third real option.

"I would believe that he has used steroids in the past, and is currently using them with a good masking agent."

Desnudo · 03-09-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Bonds runs into trouble because he's already looks really guilty. First the allegations that have been flying for years because of his body and now the whole BALCO thing. I'm not sure he can prove his innocence right now because there's so much stacked against him. The only way most people would believe him is if there was a test that showed steroids in the blood for up to 5 years or something.

SI

All they need to do is measure the cubic acreage of his skull today verse the normal size of his skull as a rookie. The damn helmet barely fits on his head now. He's like Ken Griffey Jr. in that Simpsons episode. Look at his rookie card and a photo of him today.

MrBug708 · 03-09-2004, 11:35 AM

Pete Rose treatment

MrBug708 · 03-09-2004, 11:36 AM

Dola, how long does steroids stay in your system? A whole offseason?

rkmsuf · 03-09-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

All they need to do is measure the cubic acreage of his skull today verse the normal size of his skull as a rookie. The damn helmet barely fits on his head now. He's like Ken Griffey Jr. in that Simpsons episode. Look at his rookie card and a photo of him today.

Andy Van Slyke said of Bonds "one head got bigger and one got smaller..."

John Galt · 03-09-2004, 11:47 AM

Another Bonds poll where none of the answers works for me. I'd say, "I would believe he is probably not using steriods now, but I have no idea either way if he used them before."

As to Andy Van Slyke, read Jim Leyland's reply.

Desnudo · 03-09-2004, 12:01 PM

I think my ideal poll question would have been "I definitely believe he is not using steriods now, am absolutely positive he and several other star players did use it in the past, but really couldn't care less as long as San Francisco does not win the World Series with him on the team."

Subby · 03-09-2004, 12:06 PM

I smoked crack with Marion Barry just last night...

Franklinnoble · 03-09-2004, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

I smoked crack with Marion Barry just last night...

Did he bring the hookers with him, too?

ScottVib · 03-09-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Did he bring the hookers with him, too?

bitch set me up.

damnMikeBrown · 03-09-2004, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Dola, how long does steroids stay in your system? A whole offseason?

It depends what he was taking, MrBug. For the most part, at least to my knowledge, any steroid or homone will pass out of testing range in a basebal off-season.

They test for the metablites, not the steroid itself. The metabolites will remain longer than the cycle itself, but assuming he got fully clean, depending on the steroid, as little as 10 days for the metabolites to clear.

DanGarion · 03-09-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

I smoked crack with Marion Barry just last night...

Oh that was you?

Franklinnoble · 03-09-2004, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottVib

bitch set me up.

bitch = Subby in drag.

Desnudo · 03-09-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by damnMikeBrown

It depends what he was taking, MrBug. For the most part, at least to my knowledge, any steroid or homone will pass out of testing range in a basebal off-season.

They test for the metablites, not the steroid itself. The metabolites will remain longer than the cycle itself, but assuming he got fully clean, depending on the steroid, as little as 10 days for the metabolites to clear.

How long does it take Brain & Nerve Tonic to leave your system?

Crapshoot · 03-09-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Andy Van Slyke said of Bonds "one head got bigger and one got smaller..."

''

Andy Van Slyke should have said: "Im a pathetic washed up player who the pirates thought was more worth keeping around than Bonds- I need to console myself somehow.."

SoxWin · 03-09-2004, 05:20 PM

Good call Aadik

Buccaneer · 03-09-2004, 05:28 PM

What was Bonds et al connection to BALCO? In other words, why did they need to be connected?

Taur · 03-11-2004, 05:15 AM

Don't do it Barry. In 5 yrs Steroids will be nothing but a back page blurb as Mutants take over the league.

The hottest Mutant surgery going right no for batters is Laser eye surgery. After corrective Mutant eye surgery these ball players see at 20 feet what humans see at 15 feet. Average increase in batting Average is 34-45 points.

Don't feel sorry for the pitchers because they are one cadavar away from equalling the playing field. By digging up a dead body and removing a knee ligamentand then having that knee ligament attached to the elbo, thus giving them 2 extra ligaments per joint they can see a 7-11 mph increase in their fastball.

What is next....On to the animal Kingdom....Is a Gurilla really 10 time stronger than a human? Just how fast is a chetah? Are those eagle eyes or are you just happy to see me? Say hello to 800 foot homeruns and 150mph fastballs!

Don't worry the animal/human hybrid mutants will eventually be replaced with bionics humanoids.

Ksyrup · 03-11-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

What was Bonds et al connection to BALCO? In other words, why did they need to be connected?

At least in Bonds' case, his personal trainer is one of the guys who has been charged (Greg Anderson), and he got his supplies (legal or not) from BALCO. Also, it has been reported that his name was one of 7 players identified to federal investigators as having been given steroids by Anderson/BALCO. I'm not sure what you mean by them "needing" to be connected, but I think at this point, all this does is give more substance to the conjecture that he has been doing something illegal, aside from pointing to the size of his noggin and his HR numbers.

View Poll Results: If Barry tested negative today, what would your beliefs be?
I would believe that he had never used steriods in his career.	6	10.53%
I would believe he had used steriods in the past but is now clean.	27	47.37%
I would believe he had a trout in his rectum that masked his current steriod use	24	42.11%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

03-09-2004, 07:25 AM	#3
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Bonds runs into trouble because he's already looks really guilty. First the allegations that have been flying for years because of his body and now the whole BALCO thing. I'm not sure he can prove his innocence right now because there's so much stacked against him. The only way most people would believe him is if there was a test that showed steroids in the blood for up to 5 years or something. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-09-2004, 08:19 AM	#4
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	Actually need a third real option. "I would believe that he has used steroids in the past, and is currently using them with a good masking agent." __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

03-09-2004, 11:47 AM	#9
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Another Bonds poll where none of the answers works for me. I'd say, "I would believe he is probably not using steriods now, but I have no idea either way if he used them before." As to Andy Van Slyke, read Jim Leyland's reply. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

03-11-2004, 05:15 AM	#21
Taur High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002	Don't do it Barry. In 5 yrs Steroids will be nothing but a back page blurb as Mutants take over the league. The hottest Mutant surgery going right no for batters is Laser eye surgery. After corrective Mutant eye surgery these ball players see at 20 feet what humans see at 15 feet. Average increase in batting Average is 34-45 points. Don't feel sorry for the pitchers because they are one cadavar away from equalling the playing field. By digging up a dead body and removing a knee ligamentand then having that knee ligament attached to the elbo, thus giving them 2 extra ligaments per joint they can see a 7-11 mph increase in their fastball. What is next....On to the animal Kingdom....Is a Gurilla really 10 time stronger than a human? Just how fast is a chetah? Are those eagle eyes or are you just happy to see me? Say hello to 800 foot homeruns and 150mph fastballs! Don't worry the animal/human hybrid mutants will eventually be replaced with bionics humanoids. __________________ END OF LINE..... Last edited by Taur : 03-11-2004 at 05:18 AM.

03-09-2004, 07:19 AM	#2
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	If frogs had wings...... Todd

03-09-2004, 11:35 AM	#6
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Pete Rose treatment

03-09-2004, 11:36 AM	#7
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Dola, how long does steroids stay in your system? A whole offseason?

03-09-2004, 12:01 PM	#10
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I think my ideal poll question would have been "I definitely believe he is not using steriods now, am absolutely positive he and several other star players did use it in the past, but really couldn't care less as long as San Francisco does not win the World Series with him on the team."

03-09-2004, 12:06 PM	#11
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	I smoked crack with Marion Barry just last night...

03-09-2004, 05:20 PM	#19
SoxWin H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Feb 2003	Good call Aadik

03-09-2004, 05:28 PM	#20
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	What was Bonds et al connection to BALCO? In other words, why did they need to be connected?

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