Rice and the Liberal Media Bias

[John Galt]

I've never been one to believe in a significant mainstream liberal media bias. I generally think subtle biases and marketing do affect form and content, but not to the degree that so many argue.

CNN, however, has astounded me the last few days with the pictures of Rice. Go now to the front page and look. Every picture for the last few days has had her scowling and looking as though she is full of hate.

Anyway, it just disappoints me.

[CamEdwards]

maybe they just don't like black people?

by the way, I love how she called Clarke's comments a "scurrilous allegation."

smart and sexy.....

I want her.

[SirFozzie]

Nevermind Liberal Media, CNN's just pissed that Rice has spent time briefing the Rupert Murdoch media empire and not them.

Me? I'm pissed that Rice is telling her side of the issues of 9/11 to the press.. but not the bipartisan committe investigating 9/11.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I dunno. She looks pissed off for certain, but that's because she's ticked at Dick Clarke's "scurrilous allegations" and is fiercely rebutting them. She has every reason to be angry. Clarke's comments make her look like a dope.

CNN had Rice on yesterday morning, full interview and everything. She wasn't pressed too hard or grilled or anything.

Besides any "liberal media bias" CNN might have is easily out weighed by the monstrosity that is FOX News.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

maybe they just don't like black people?

by the way, I love how she called Clarke's comments a "scurrilous allegation."

smart and sexy.....

I want her.

Agreed.

Gotta love that word: scurrilous.

[Ryche]

Rice is telling her side to the committee, just not in the open public hearing. Anything she tells the committee will be made available to the public.

[CamEdwards]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I dunno. She looks pissed off for certain, but that's because she's ticked at Dick Clarke's "scurrilous allegations" and is fiercely rebutting them. She has every reason to be angry. Clarke's comments make her look like a dope.

Actually, Clarke's comments (in 2002) make Clarke look like a dope.

CNN had Rice on yesterday morning, full interview and everything. She wasn't pressed too hard or grilled or anything.

Besides any "liberal media bias" CNN might have is easily out weighed by the monstrosity that is FOX News.

Unless, of course, you only watch and/or read only one of the two.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

Actually, Clarke's comments (in 2002) make Clarke look like a dope.



Unless, of course, you only watch and/or read only one of the two.

Agreed, Clarke does seem like a dope. He just made some comment in his book about Rice not even knowing what Al-Qadea was when he brought it up for the first time. Hence, making Rice look like a dope.

Sadly, more people watch and/or read Fox News than anything else.

[Peregrine]

I've noticed those crazy pictures on CNN.com myself. It's strange because they've had very flattering pictures of her in the past, it's just the last couple days that they have "angry Condi" scowling her way through a brick wall.

[AgPete]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Agreed, Clarke does seem like a dope. He just made some comment in his book about Rice not even knowing what Al-Qadea was when he brought it up for the first time. Hence, making Rice look like a dope.

Sadly, more people watch and/or read Fox News than anything else.

Sometimes Fox News gets on my nerves because they're so determined to prove the good in Bush and the bad in everyone else but I've gotta admit, it is entertaining. Neil Cavuto is my favorite host.

[AgPete]

Dola, BTW, Rice has that infamous scowl on Fox News website coverage too.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115169,00.html

[Senator]

I first met her at the 92 Convention in Houston.

Hubba Hubba

[wig]

Has anyone else noticed that the frontmen for this counteroffensive (Rice and Powell) are black?

In light of the stepped-up Republican effort to get the "black vote", I find this interesting.

[John Galt]

Originally Posted by AgPete

Dola, BTW, Rice has that infamous scowl on Fox News website coverage too.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115169,00.html

That's because it is the AP photo with the story. Fox, however, doesn't feature it prominently on the front page for 3 days (like CNN has).

I'm sure Rice is angry about things, but these scowl pcitures are just over the top.

[AgPete]

Originally Posted by John Galt

That's because it is the AP photo with the story. Fox, however, doesn't feature it prominently on the front page for 3 days (like CNN has).

I'm sure Rice is angry about things, but these scowl pcitures are just over the top.

If it's just the AP photo, then I doubt there's any bias, just websites too lazy to go get any other photo. It's a headline story at CNN so it's gets the big picture. It's not headline news at Fox. People are welcome to speculate if it's not a headline story at FOX because it's a potentially damaging story against the Republicans.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by John Galt

That's because it is the AP photo with the story. Fox, however, doesn't feature it prominently on the front page for 3 days (like CNN has).

I'm sure Rice is angry about things, but these scowl pcitures are just over the top.

She's REALLY angry.

[GrantDawg]

If John Galt is calling something "liberal media bias" then it carries a lot of weight.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by wig

Has anyone else noticed that the frontmen for this counteroffensive (Rice and Powell) are black?

In light of the stepped-up Republican effort to get the "black vote", I find this interesting.

If the Reps are lucky, this year we might pull in 15% of AA voters.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

maybe they just don't like black people?

by the way, I love how she called Clarke's comments a "scurrilous allegation."

smart and sexy.....

I want her.

So this is what a few days away from the Mrs. does...

I agree though. SHe's like a big, sexy brain!

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

So this is what a few days away from the Mrs. does...

I agree though. SHe's like a big, sexy brain!

And she absolutely LOVES football.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

And she absolutely LOVES football.

I'd love her to become commisioner.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Besides any "liberal media bias" CNN might have is easily out weighed by the monstrosity that is FOX News.

What you talking about, FOX News is fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced fair and balanced

...see, the more you say something the more you trick the common man (the moron) that it is true!

[yabanci]

what is this, a Rush Limbaugh crybaby session? wwhhaaaaa it's not a fair picture. whhhaaaaaaaa

[cuervo72]

I noticed the same kind of thing on ABC News the other night. They were interviewing Iraqis, and they got the meanest, angriest sounding interpreter (a woman) they possibly could to do the translations for the broadcast. It's just little things, but when they're done again and again, there is an effect.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Agreed, Clarke does seem like a dope. He just made some comment in his book about Rice not even knowing what Al-Qadea was when he brought it up for the first time. Hence, making Rice look like a dope.

Too bad there are quotes from Rice prior to the meeting in question where she specifically mentions Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.

Sadly, more people watch and/or read Fox News than anything else.

In a highly partisan country where most people seem to prefer watching news shows that reflect and reinforce their viewpoints, doesn't that seem to imply something? Like maybe that FoxNews isn't a far-right wing conspiracy, but rather a conservative outlet that appeals to so many viewers because it's the only one on the airwaves? (Not trying to attack you personally)

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by BigJohn&TheLions

...see, the more you say something the more you trick the common man (the moron) that it is true!

Yup....the average American is a gullible idiot who is easily misled by the biased, partisan media in this country.

[yabanci]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Yup....the average American is a gullible idiot who is easily misled by the biased, partisan media in this country.

That's for sure.

[Huckleberry]

GrantDawg -

So Fox News is part of the liberal media bias on this Rice thing, then?


Fox News' "enlarged" picture of Rice:

[yabanci]

whhhaaaaaa. it's not fair. Fox news is not fair. whaaaaaaa

[corbes]

There was a different picture of Rice on the front page of USA Today yesterday. Her scowl was even more evil in that picture.

[gstelmack]

THAT'S the kind of face I want to see on a key person in the fight on terror. Go get 'em Condi!

[Maple Leafs]

Damn. I thought this thread was going to be a Limbaugh-style rant about how Jerry Rice was over-rated because he's black.

[kcchief19]

Well, I'd say the biggest part of the problem is that she always looks pissed off about something.

It's also an AP photo, so if you're going to cast media bias, cast it on the AP. CNN, Fox and other broadcast Web sites use AP photos because they don't employ their traditional photogs.

As for critizing CNN for put Condi on the front page scowling and Fox News burying the picture inside, the most prominent photo to me on Fox News' site is of a pig because those jack asses would drop dead of a heart attack if they didn't have gaint flaming advertising as the most prominent thing on the page.

[Easy Mac]

I concur with the first line of kcchief's post... I don't think I've ever seen miss rice smile... nor have i ever seen hell clinton smile... i think i saw laura bush smile once, but i think i was drunk and picturing her face on a cloud.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Too bad there are quotes from Rice prior to the meeting in question where she specifically mentions Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.


In a highly partisan country where most people seem to prefer watching news shows that reflect and reinforce their viewpoints, doesn't that seem to imply something? Like maybe that FoxNews isn't a far-right wing conspiracy, but rather a conservative outlet that appeals to so many viewers because it's the only one on the airwaves? (Not trying to attack you personally)

No attack felt at all.

This is why, I think Fox News has grown in popularity since Bush took over. It's like watching a sporting event. Who would you rather listen to? You color and play-by-play guy or the other teams'? Trust me, after having to listen to three years of Lions' games from the other side (Lions radio broadcast isn't carried on the internet) it's the latter.

I don't think Fox News is the only conservative outlet, it's just the most blatant. Not to mention sensationalist as well.

[Dutch]

To me, Fox News is a breath of fresh air. How can anyone stand CNN for more than 10 minutes....it's terrible.

Somebody explain to me what "Conservative Bias" on Fox News looks like. It's got to be in print to have liberals this "angry" at FoxNews.

[tucker342]

Lets see...

http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/fox-main.html
and if you want more, just google it.

Can you say the same thing about CNN? Not really

[tucker342]

dola-

an article about the "Liberal" bias in the media

http://www.fair.org/reports/journalist-survey.html
(warning: it's really long)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by stevew

If the Reps are lucky, this year we might pull in 15% of AA voters.

That may be true, but I just don't think there are enough All-Americans to make this significant--even going back through a hundred years of football.

CR

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by tucker342

an article about the "Liberal" bias in the media

Q#22. On social issues, how would you characterize your political orientation?
Left 30%
Center 57%
Right 9%
Other 5%

And that's from a self-reporting system.

And guess who said this?

Like every other institution, the Washington and political press corps operate with a good number of biases and predilections.

They include, but are not limited to, a near-universal shared sense that liberal political positions on social issues like gun control, homosexuality, abortion, and religion are the default, while more conservative positions are "conservative positions."

They include a belief that government is a mechanism to solve the nation's problems; that more taxes on corporations and the wealthy are good ways to cut the deficit and raise money for social spending and don't have a negative affect on economic growth; and that emotional examples of suffering (provided by unions or consumer groups) are good ways to illustrate economic statistic stories.

More systematically, the press believes that fluid narratives in coverage are better than static storylines; that new things are more interesting than old things; that close races are preferable to loose ones; and that incumbents are destined for dethroning, somehow.

The press, by and large, does not accept President Bush's justifications for the Iraq war -- in any of its WMD, imminent threat, or evil-doer formulations. It does not understand how educated, sensible people could possibly be wary of multilateral institutions or friendly, sophisticated European allies.

It does not accept the proposition that the Bush tax cuts helped the economy by stimulating summer spending.

It remains fixated on the unemployment rate.

It believes President Bush is "walking a fine line" with regards to the gay marriage issue, choosing between "tolerance" and his "right-wing base." It still has a hard time understanding how, despite the drumbeat of conservative grass-top complaints about overspending and deficits, President Bush's base remains extremely and loyally devoted to him -- and it looks for every opportunity to find cracks in that base.

If you said ABC News, you'd be right. http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/p...e_Feb1004.html

I don't deny that Fox News is a conservative news outlet biased in favor of the administration, but it's annoying when liberals bash it and don't admit the same about CNN/NYT, or vice versa from conservatives. (FTR, I don't watch either. The only TV news show I watch is the Daily Show.)

[sabotai]

I don't deny that Fox News is a conservative news outlet biased in favor of the administration, but it's annoying when liberals bash it and don't admit the same about CNN/NYT, or vice versa from conservatives.

^^^^^

I wish I could say that it amazed me that liberals don't see CNN as liberally-biased and that conservatives don't see Fox News as conservatively-biased. But it doesn't...

[Easy Mac]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Somebody explain to me what "Conservative Bias" on Fox News looks like. It's got to be in print to have liberals this "angry" at FoxNews.

Seriously, if you can say this with a straight face, you deserve an oscar. Do I have to name all of the shows, or the favorable slant they give Bush/negative slant they give a democrat.

Personally, I watch FoxNews because its hilarious that people actually have views as extreme as the nuts on there. The fact that they're yelling half the time makes it very entertaining. I can't say anything about CNN, because I don't think I've watched 5 minutes of it in my lifetime. The people and shows they have are beyond boring, and not because its "liberal," but because the people are uninteresting.

People are going to gleam what they want from the news regardless of how it is presented, so who really cares if an outlet is conservative or liberal? Conservatives will still read the NY Times for the news, but bitch that its a liberal slant... does this mean they do the worst job of actually getting the news out there of any newspaper... no. Same for FoxNews. I go there for news because CNN is so fucking boring, but I still get out of it what I want without paying too much attention to the slant they present (unless its O'Reilly, because if he doesn't offend 90% of America, something is wrong, but he's entertainment, not news).

[sabotai]

EDIT: non-dola,

Condi Rice is fugly.

[Easy Mac]

thats right bitch, you better dola-recognize.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by sabotai

EDIT: non-dola,

Condi Rice is fugly.

Flame war beginning in 5...4...3.....

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Flame war beginning in 5...4...3.....

You didn't say 2 or 1.

[Dutch]

She's hot as far as politicians go.

[fhasumi]

I think she's a cross between Arlene the Cat from Garfield, and Tootie from Facts of Life


And yes, I'd bang both.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Dutch

She's hot as far as politicians go.

Well if the choice is between Condi Rice and Janet Reno...the choice is rather obvious.

I still don't think Maxim will be calling anytime soon.

[sabotai]

dola,

And I set you all up for the obvious Wayne's World reference, and you don't take it. You all suck.