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18 | 32.14% |
| Fred Biletnikoff |
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14 | 25.00% |
| Cris Carter |
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20 | 35.71% |
| Don Hutson |
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29 | 51.79% |
| Elroy Hirsch |
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3 | 5.36% |
| Charlie Joiner |
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14 | 25.00% |
| Steve Largent |
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36 | 64.29% |
| James Lofton |
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9 | 16.07% |
| Jerry Rice |
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53 | 94.64% |
| Charley Taylor |
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8 | 14.29% |
| Paul Warfield |
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9 | 16.07% |
| Other (Please write-in your selection in a reply to this thread. It will be counted.) |
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17 | 30.36% |
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The FOFC All-Time NFL Team: Wide Receivers
**** VOTING CLOSED ****
First off, if you haven't already, check out the new webpage which shows the all-time team thus far.Click here for the FOFC All-Time NFL Team Page. The NFL has an all-decade team. The NBA has an "official" list of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. If there's enough interest, I thought we could create the FOFC All-Time NFL Team since football is what brought most people to this forum to begin with. It works like this, I post a poll for each position, and classify players by their positions. Generally, all players will be listed by a position, not which side they play on or if they're strong side. FOFC voters pick enough players to fill a regular team. Check the link above to read previous results. If you do not agree with the nominees in the all-time position vote, please feel free to write-in your candidate. Some suggestions for other players are at the bottom of this thread. FOFC selects: 3 Quarterbacks 4 Running backs 3 Tight Ends 5 Wide Receivers 4 Offensive Tackles 4 Offensive Guards 2 Centers 4 Defensive Ends 4 Defensive Tackles 5 Linebackers 4 Safeties 5 Cornerbacks 1 Kicker and Punter Previous Results: Quarterbacks finished 3/26/04. (Click above link to see results.) Cornerback voting still in progress. LINK: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...ad.php?t=23510 If I make any mistakes on the stats, let me know. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE FOFC ALL-TIME WIDE RECEIVERS - Select 5 players in the poll LANCE ALWORTH (1962-1972) Receptions: 542 Receiving Yards: 10,266 Receiving Touchdowns: 85 Pro Bowls: 7 FRED BILETNIKOFF (1965-1978) Receptions: 589 Receiving Yards: 8,974 Receiving Touchdowns: 76 Pro Bowls: 6 CRIS CARTER (1987-2002) Receptions: 1,101 Receiving Yards: 13,899 Receiving Touchdowns: 130 Pro Bowls: 8 DON HUTSON (1935-1945) Receptions: 488 Receiving Yards: 7,991 Receiving Touchdowns: 99 Pro Bowls: Didn't play in modern NFL era. ELROY HIRSCH (1949-1957) Receptions: 343 Receiving Yards: 6,299 Receiving Touchdowns: 53 Pro Bowls: 3 CHARLIE JOINER (1969-1986) Receptions: 750 Receiving Yards: 12,146 Receiving Touchdowns: 65 Pro Bowls: 3 STEVE LARGENT (1976-1989) Receptions: 819 Receiving Yards: 13,089 Receiving Touchdowns: 100 Pro Bowls: 7 JAMES LOFTON (1978-1993) Receptions: 764 Receiving Yards: 14,004 Receiving Touchdowns: 75 Pro Bowls: 8 JERRY RICE (1985-present) Receptions: 1,519 Receiving Yards: 22,466 Receiving Touchdowns: 194 Pro Bowls: 13 CHARLEY TAYLOR (1964-1977) ![]() Receptions: 649 Receiving Yards: 9,110 Receiving Touchdowns: 79 Pro Bowls: 8 PAUL WARFIELD (1964-1977) Receptions: 427 Receiving Yards: 8,565 Receiving Touchdowns: 85 Pro Bowls: 8 OTHER - After voting "Other" please reply in this thread and list your other choices. "Other" write-in votes will be tallied. ![]() Some potential write-ins include: Raymond Berry Tim Brown Henry Ellard Tom Fears Marvin Harrison Bob Hayes Michael Irvin Dante Lavelli Don Maynard Tommy McDonald Bobby Mitchell Art Monk Drew Pearson Andre Reed John Stalloworth Lynn Swann
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I'm writing in 2 Cowboys who I think never got their due respect: Bob Hayes and Michael Irvin.
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I voted for Largent and Rice along with these write ins:
Issac Curtis Art Monk Andre Reed |
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The boy who cried Trout
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2 Other votes:
Irvin Swann |
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3 write-ins:
Lynn Swann Marvin Harrison John Stallworth |
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Rice
Alworth Largent Hutson Taylor
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Rice is #1 in receptions, #1 in receiving yards and #1 in receiving TDs... enough said.
2 write-ins: Tim Brown Marvin Harrison I would have liked to include Swann for his 3 SBs, but not enough spots...
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2001
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I'd like to write-in Swann please
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Write-ins so far:
Lynn Swann 3 Marvin Harrison 2 Michael Irvin 2 Bob Hayes 1 Art Monk 1 John Stallworth 1 Andre Reed 1 Isaac Curtis 1 Tim Brown 1 |
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High School JV
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Irvin
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Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi
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Other - Sterling Sharpe
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Other:
Randy Moss: Only player to average 100 yards and a TD over a 16 game season. |
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Strategy Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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There is no reason Rice shouldn't be a unanimous selection, IMHO.
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I think he may be the only unanimous selection. I don't think Joe Montana received enough votes to equal the total amount of voters in the QB poll. I can't think of anyone other than Jerry Rice who exemplifies a position. Maybe Walter Payton? Reggie White? Lawrence Taylor? Anthony Munoz?
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I think at every other position there can be a legitemate discussion, but Jerry Rice is so insanely superior to those who came before him that there is no discussion, he absolutely towers over othe WR's in every statistical category. Add in the fact that he's been a class act, and been to the Super Bowl 5 times - and always been a postseason performer... and it's obvious there's no reason not to say he's the best. |
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Pro Starter
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Agreed with homer5000. Simply put Jerry Rice is the greatest combination of talent, work ethic, and longevity the NFL has ever seen. Anybody who takes part in this poll and doesn't vote for Rice has either been living under a rock for the past 20 years, or holds a serious, serious grudge against players from Mississippi Valley State.
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Wow, this is going to be his 20th season, and he'll turn 42 by the midpoint of the season.
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Homer see if you can post his post-season numbers too. I'm sure they are no less amazing.
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who knew he had 10 rushing tds.
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You know what's so amazing to me even as much as his receiving stats? The amount of 16 game seasons. It's incredible how he's managed to stay so healthy. As Michael Irvin once said, he's Jesus in cleats.
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dola,
Also coming back from that injury that probably would have caused about 99% of NFL players to retire at that age. |
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argh. can't get the formatting right.
postseason stats: http://pro-football-reference.com/players/RiceJe00.htm
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So in 3 Super Bowls, he averaged 170 yards and 2 TD's. Not bad.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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AgPete, nice list of players who define their position. You could probably add Ronnie Lott, John Hannah, and Ray Lewis to that list.
My vote is the same as Sun Tzu's. |
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Write in: Irvin and Tim Brown
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Illinois
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I'm glad to see he's in 3rd place, but Don Hutson really shouldn't be such a distant 3rd place given his contribution to the position. In my opinion, of course.
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I'm fascinated by:
(1) The number and variety of write-ins for this position. I guess listing five gives you a lot of latitude... but I'm really surprised at how many players are being named. (2) The amount of love veing given to Steve Largent. Good heavens - more votes than Don Hutson? Twice as many as Charlie Joiner? Oh, dear. |
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Join Date: Jun 2001
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I think there's probably some age bias here. I know that I only voted for players who I remember seeing play. (In this case, I voted for Rice and Largent.)
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Rice
Hutson Write-ins - Swann Harrison Tim Brown And I think Anthony Munoz is the only guy who comes close to Rice as exemplary of his position. After him, Montana and Jim Brown are probably the other two that are 'tops,' but even then there is tremendous dispute over who the top players at their position are.
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Pro Starter
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Dola - I also agree with Quik...what's with the Steve Largent votes? He's good...but he's not that good.
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I tend to agree that Steve is getting a bit too much love in this poll, but in his defense he held several major receiving records at the time of his retirement. Certainly one of the all-time bests, but I'd rank Hutson above him. |
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Dola - and Joiner, too.
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I watched Largent every Sunday for a good chunk of his career, and (IMO) he had few peers. Beyond the stats - which are pretty darn impeccable - he was simply a wizard at running patterns. Zorn or Krieg would go back to pass, move in the pocket, throw deep downfield, and there'd be Largent on a post or corner or deep out with the cornerback completely out of the picture.
So I have no issue with his votes (but voted for Rice and Hutson, too).
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other-- Art Monk
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Fred Biletnikoff what he doesn't get Nole luv?
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Monk
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Other - Andre Reed
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Well it finally happened. Someone didn't vote for Jerry Rice.
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College Prospect
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Write-ins so far:
Michael Irvin 4 Lynn Swann 4 Tim Brown 3 Marvin Harrison 3 Art Monk 3 Andre Reed 2 Bob Hayes 1 John Stallworth 1 Isaac Curtis 1 Sterling Sharpe 1 Randy Moss 1 |
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Pro Rookie
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Write in..
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Biletnikoff
Largent Lofton Rice Other - Sterling Sharpe |
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Sterling Sharpe is my other.
Jerry Rice Lance Alworth Don Hutson Steve Largent |
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Dola--
So far three people have made a list of the five greatest recievers in NFL history and managed to not include Rice. Maybe they're members of the Pro Football Writer's Association. |
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Or the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Voting is closed. The FOFC All-Time NFL Team has been updated. Click here for the updated team page.
Write-in totals: Michael Irvin 4 Lynn Swann 4 Tim Brown 3 Marvin Harrison 3 Sterling Sharpe 3 Art Monk 3 Andre Reed 2 Bob Hayes 1 John Stallworth 1 Isaac Curtis 1 Randy Moss 1 Otis Taylor 1 FINAL PLACING: 1st - Jerry Rice 2nd - Steve Largent 3rd - Don Hutson 4th - Cris Carter 5th - Lance Alworth 6th - Fred Biletnikoff, Charlie Joiner 8th - James Lofton, Paul Warfield 10th - Charley Taylor 11th - Michael Irvin, Lynn Swann 13th - Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch, Tim Brown, Marvin Harrison, Sterling Sharpe, Art Monk 18th - Andre Reed 19th - Bob Hayes, John Stallworth, Isaac Curtis, Randy Moss, Otis Taylor FOFC ALL-TIME NFL TEAM WIDE RECEIVERS Starters: Jerry Rice and Steve Largent Slot Receivers: Don Hutson, Cris Carter and Lance Alworth Next up..... the big guys, the defensive and offensive tackles. |
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