FBCB: How do you decide starters?

kingnebwsu · 04-03-2004, 09:24 PM

I think this is the thing I've struggled most at with FBCB. I'm the dumb guy who likes to have an "overall" score to use as a tiebreaker when deciding what players to go with. I use the recommend button to get started, but then when it comes down to the final few starters, I got nothing.

I'll give my current situation as an example:

I hit the "recommend" button and the game wants me to start 3 big guys (all 6'8" or bigger). But the guy they have as the SF gives up too many things that I want at that position (speed, perimeter defense, and he fouls too much). So I think I'm gonna put that guy as the #1 backup to my big guys. Plus I'm going to go with a 3-2 defense, so I want a quick guy on the perimeter. So I put the only SF on my roster in his "natural" spot.

Then it comes to deciding my SG position. This decision seemed easy before I did the training camps, but apparently my redshirt freshman had a fannntastic training session. Here are the guys:

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 #3 SG Stephen Hall - Wright State - Senior
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 Height:       6' 0"
 Weight:       206
 High School:  Angola High School
 Hometown:     Angola, IN
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK PFS QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    30  90  67  34  71  44   6  30  49  35  74  19  32  76  55  55  86
 Potential:   D   A   B   D   B   C   F   D   C   C   B   D                    
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 2004     High School: Rated *** and #300 overall by the FBCB scouting service.

Then there's the youngin'...

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 #11 SG Leonel Mitchell - Wright State - Freshman
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 Height:       6' 3"
 Weight:       189
 High School:  Enterprise High School
 Hometown:     Enterprise, UT
 
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK PFS QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    59  61  64  77   6  12  39  24  17  41  34  37  64  65  37  93  77
 Potential:   B   B   B   A   F   F   C   D   F   C   D   C 
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 2007     High School: Rated *** and #168 overall by the FBCB scouting service.

So who do I start? I'm leaning toward using the senior as the starter and having the freshman as the first guy off the bench for the SG&SF positions. For me it'd be a much easier decision if it weren't for the frosh's INS ability. Coming off a year where I struggled to get points, I think that could help a lot. Oh well, if my team struggles, this will be the first switch I make.

Any other lineup suggestions would be welcome. Especially with how to successfully set "PT" for all players. Thanks

ahbrady · 04-03-2004, 09:50 PM

Do you have a great PG already starting? If not, I might look at Hall being the starting PG with Mitchell starting at SG. I'm not sure that my opinion should be worth much though. I'm not exactly shaking up the world in my game.

Easy Mac · 04-03-2004, 09:56 PM

Mitchell looks like he'll hurt you as a full time player, at least this season. he'll be good for points of the bench, but he'll get burned on the defensive end. try and work on his ball skills, or else he'll be a Trajan Langdon type spot shooter.

Axxon · 04-03-2004, 10:06 PM

In close cases I always go for the older guy. Experience seems to count for something even if it isn't much.

kingnebwsu · 04-03-2004, 10:10 PM

I do already have a PG with mad mad passing&handling skills. He's improved slightly over last year, but this year my team has more guys who can "make plays" so his assist numbers are way up. As are my team numbers.

I think I made the right choice having Mitchell come off the bench. Both he and the senior Hall are scoring like crazy.

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 Wright State Raiders Player Averages

 Name                Pos   G GS  Min  Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO   Fl
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 Perry Maxwell       C     4  4 32.3  9.5  2.3  7.5  1.3  0.8  0.0  0.8  2.3
 Conrad Blood        C     4  4 29.3  6.8  2.3  8.5  1.3  1.3  0.8  0.8  2.5
 Burton Hughs        SF    4  4 22.0 14.0  2.0  5.5  2.5  1.8  0.0  1.3  3.3
 Stephen Hall        SG    4  4 31.5 19.8  0.8  5.0  2.0  1.3  0.0  1.3  1.3
 Elias McKean        PG    4  4 32.0 10.3  0.8  3.0  6.5  0.3  0.0  1.0  3.0
 Leonel Mitchell     SG    4  0 19.5 16.3  0.8  1.5  2.0  1.5  0.0  2.8  1.3
 Steven Walden       PF    4  0  8.8  2.5  0.3  3.0  1.0  0.0  0.8  0.3  0.3
 Dante Shortridge    PF    4  0  6.0  0.8  0.3  0.5  0.3  0.3  0.0  1.0  0.8
 Danilo Gulick       PF    0  0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0
 Brian John          PF    4  0  4.3  0.0  0.0  1.3  0.0  0.3  1.0  0.5  0.5
 Hubert Dixon        PG    4  0  7.0  2.5  0.5  1.3  0.8  0.0  0.0  1.5  0.3
 Zack Harris         SF    4  0  7.3  2.0  1.3  1.3  1.0  0.3  0.0  0.5  0.5
 Gregory Dement      C     1  0  2.0  0.0  0.0  1.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0
 Emmett Forrest      SG    0  0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0
 Buddy Flores        PG    0  0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0

Mitchell might be the most explosive offensive player I've ever had. Too bad he can't handle the ball worth a sh...hey hey kids!!!

His defense skills don't scare me as much as his awful ball-handling ability. Plus for the first time ever my team doesn't struggle with TO's, but Mitchell still has 2.8 TO/game. I think this is a great role for Mitchell, and he may end up in this spot all 4 years. That's projecting a bit too far for now, but I'll take what he's given me so far. Hopefully he can average 10 PPG for his first season. This year is shaping up to be a solid one

ahbrady · 04-03-2004, 10:58 PM

That's a pretty impressive points per minute ratio. If he can keep that up all year, you'll do pretty well.

MrBug708 · 04-04-2004, 12:22 AM

Let the AC decide

kingnebwsu · 04-05-2004, 03:13 AM

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  PLAYER DETAILS

 #11 SG Leonel Mitchell - Wright State - Junior
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 Height:       6' 3"
 Weight:       201
 High School:  Enterprise High School
 Hometown:     Enterprise, UT
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK PFS QKN STR JMP STA
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 Current:    68  67  73  89   6  14  45  26  19  53  40  46  64  66  42  97  97
 Potential:   B   B   B   A   F   F   C   D   F   C   D   C                    

 Health:      Good                                           
 Scholarship: Yes
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Academics:   82
 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
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   2009  32   5 19.7 12.6  0.6  2.2  1.2  2.4  0.51  1.0  0.2  1.7
   2010  25  10 21.7 16.4  1.2  3.6  1.4  2.3  0.62  0.9  0.1  1.9
   2011   1   1 34.0 52.0  3.0  7.0  1.0  6.0  0.17  5.0  2.0  3.0
 Career  58  16 20.8 14.9  0.9  2.9  1.3  2.4  0.17  1.1  0.2  1.8

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT%  3PM  3PA   3P%  PPS   +/-
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   2009  4.1 10.2  .402  2.5  3.3  .771  1.8  4.9  .376 1.23  5.13
   2010  6.0 13.6  .441  2.6  3.4  .786  1.8  4.9  .369 1.21  3.24
   2011 16.0 28.0  .571 17.0 17.0 1.000  3.0  8.0  .375 1.86 15.00
 Career  5.1 12.0  .428  2.8  3.6  .796  1.8  4.9  .373 1.25  4.48
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS OREB  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF
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   2009  32   5  631  402   19   70   39   77   33    6   53
   2010  25  10  542  411   30   89   36   58   23    2   48
   2011   1   1   34   52    3    7    1    6    5    2    3
 Career  58  16 1207  865   52  166   76  141   61   10  104

 Shooting Totals
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 Season  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA  +/-
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   2009  131  326   81  105   59  157  164
   2010  150  340   66   84   45  122   81
   2011   16   28   17   17    3    8   15
 Career  297  694  164  206  107  287  260
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
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 Season     52    3    7    1    5    2    6   16   28   17   17    3    8
 Career     52    3    8    6    5    3    6   16   28   17   17    6   11
 
 Awards & Acheivements:
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 Season   Award
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 All      Player of the Game: 6
 2007     High School: Rated *** and #168 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
 2009     Freshman All-Conference (Horizon League)
 2009     Conference Freshman of the Year (Horizon League)
 2010     2nd Team All-Conference (Horizon League)

I decided this season to let this guy start his junior year as a starter. He rewards my #22 ranked Wright State Raiders with an absolute thumping of a solid Xavier squad. CHECK OUT HIS NUMBERS!!! A new WSU school record for points in a game. Absolutely amazing. It boosted our rank in the polls to #12 with a 1-0 record. This is the highest I've ever been ranked. It will disappear, but for now I'm dancing

Question about team strategy: for the inside/balanced/outside thing, if I say "inside," does that mean ALL my guys will look to drive to the basket/take more closer shots? Or does it mean that we'll go to the inside players? I'd guess the former, but I'd like clarification.

If this guy averages 20 PPG like I think he can, we should be dancing in Dayton, Ohio this year!

Edit: He "only" played 34 minutes. In the other six minutes, my redshirt freshman came in and got TEN points! What a sweet 105-81 victory!

04-03-2004, 10:06 PM	#4
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	In close cases I always go for the older guy. Experience seems to count for something even if it isn't much. __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

04-03-2004, 09:50 PM	#2
ahbrady High School JV Join Date: Apr 2002	Do you have a great PG already starting? If not, I might look at Hall being the starting PG with Mitchell starting at SG. I'm not sure that my opinion should be worth much though. I'm not exactly shaking up the world in my game.

04-03-2004, 09:56 PM	#3
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Mitchell looks like he'll hurt you as a full time player, at least this season. he'll be good for points of the bench, but he'll get burned on the defensive end. try and work on his ball skills, or else he'll be a Trajan Langdon type spot shooter.

04-03-2004, 10:58 PM	#6
ahbrady High School JV Join Date: Apr 2002	That's a pretty impressive points per minute ratio. If he can keep that up all year, you'll do pretty well.

04-04-2004, 12:22 AM	#7
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Let the AC decide

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