Beatallica

[Ksyrup]

These guys have been around for awhile, but they just released a new free CD, so you should check them out if you've never heard them. Basically, they meld Beatles and Metallica songs into one song, "metallicized" and sung in a nearly perfect Hetfield vocal style. The lyrics are great as well. Got to Get You Trapped Under Ice is just brilliant.


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[-Mojo Jojo-]

Beatallica rules! "I Wanna Choke Your Band" is one of my favorites..

[Hurst2112]

does the new one have 'enter taxman' on it? I have been waiting to hear that one.

[Ksyrup]

Yes, it's called Sandman - Enter Sandman mixed with Taxman.

[fantastic flying froggies]

cool !

Almost better than the real Metallica covers...

[Bosco]

Why would anyone want to combine the greatest band ever with one of the worst?

[Nyarlahotep]

Neither band is close to the greatest, and while not very good, the Beatles could hardly be called one of the worst.

[Bosco]

Originally Posted by Nyarlahotep

Neither band is close to the greatest, and while not very good, the Beatles could hardly be called one of the worst.

Maybe I should have been more clear, Metallica sucks.

[Nyarlahotep]

Originally Posted by Bosco

Maybe I should have been more clear, Metallica sucks.

True, but they are by far the better band of the two.

[Anthony]

ugh. friggin children.

you must have missed class the day they taught that the Beatles are earth's greatest rock n roll band ever. they're not in my top 10, but it all started with them and i acknowledge it.

metallica has their own place in music history - they're one of the original "monsters of rock" and are responsible for influencing much of today's music, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't even top 5. just so you know, wouldn't want you to sound like an idiot among more educated people.

[Nyarlahotep]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

ugh. friggin children.

you must have missed class the day they taught that the Beatles are earth's greatest rock n roll band ever. they're not in my top 10, but it all started with them and i acknowledge it.

metallica has their own place in music history - they're one of the original "monsters of rock" and are responsible for influencing much of today's music, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't even top 5. just so you know, wouldn't want you to sound like an idiot among more educated people.

I'd rather sound like an idiot amongst old people (I assume that is what you really meant, since you have no idea what my education consists of), than have poor taste. Both of those bands suck with Metallica sucking only marginally less. Thanks for pointing out how over-rated they both are. I really hadn't ever noticed that.

[Ksyrup]

You might think they suck, but their relevance to the history of the music is precisely why someone would do what these guys have done. You don't need to involve music tastes/preferences to comprehend music history.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

You might think they suck, but their relevance to the history of the music is precisely why someone would do what these guys have done. You don't need to involve music tastes/preferences to comprehend music history.

there it is. ksyrup's got it. like i said, the Beatles aren't in my top 10, but if someone were to ask me who the greatest rock band ever was i'd say they were. my fav band is RHCP, who themselves reserve a tiny place in music history for melding elements of punk & funk (in their early days, at least), but in the grand list of top 10 bands they would fall out of the top 20 i'd bet.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

there it is. ksyrup's got it. like i said, the Beatles aren't in my top 10, but if someone were to ask me who the greatest rock band ever was i'd say they were. my fav band is RHCP, who themselves reserve a tiny place in music history for melding elements of punk & funk (in their early days, at least), but in the grand list of top 10 bands they would fall out of the top 20 i'd bet.

I honestly believe that the Beatles are overrated in the "Best of" lists or "Most Influential" lists. They spawned the British Invasion, which was big for American pop, and it was arguably the next evulution in rock and roll. That's a good list of stuff. They were popular enough that their later albums allowed them to experiment musically without losing fans, and that's a good thing for everybody. They were never as experimental as comtemporaries like, say, Chicago and The Moody Blues, however.

I'd say the Beatles were about as influential as Jefferson Airplane. Jefferson Airplane helped to lead the next evolution in rock and roll, began experimental albums (Blows Against the Empire being one of the first concept albums, just like Sgt. Peppers was for the Beatles (although the first major concept album was Days of Future Passed by The Moody Blues)), but Jefferson Airplane suffered from three major issues that hurt it in the final analysis by many people. Jefferson Airplane has less top 40 hits, they stayed together long enough to ruin their experimental sound and sell out, and none of their band members were assassinated.

I'd objectively say that the Beatles are arguably among the top five most influential bands of all time. But the most influential bands are not always the most well known. I'd put them up there with Nirvana, Jefferson Airplane, Kraftwerk, New Order, Depeche Mode, Run DMC, Rolling Stones, and The Temptations. Still, trying to decide which of those bands is the most influential, when each contributes to it's own sound and sub-genre, is very difficult.

-Anxiety

[Anthony]

not talking about "most influential". talking about the "greatest ever". greatness encompasses everything, from influence on preceding bands, to quality of musical talent, song-writing, overall popularity (top 40 hits), to # of albums sold, etc.

most influential is something different altogether - popularity and actual quality of music means nothing, it's all about being unique enough to inspire people who want something different to create similar music. 2 different things.

[cthomer5000]

Anxiety,

it's a bit of a stretch to call Chicago a Beatles "contemporary." Chicago's first album was released in April of '69. The Beatles last recorded album was released in September 1969. (and while Let it Be was released in 1970, it was recorded before Abbey Road - the Sept. 69 release I'm referring too).

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Anxiety,

it's a bit of a stretch to call Chicago a Beatles "contemporary." Chicago's first album was released in April of '69. The Beatles last recorded album was recorded in September 1969. (and while Let it Be was released in 1970, it was recorded before Abbey Road - the Sept. 69 release I'm referring too).

whew! i thought it was jsut me who found that statement odd. i also don't know how you put the Moody Blues and Beatles in the same sentence. i don't want to assume i know more about music history than everyone, but that was indeed the first time i ever heard of the Moody Blues not only being an influential band but also being a Beatles contemporary. i hope this wasn't a case of personal likes influencing an opinion. like i said i love the RHCP but even i know they don't belong anywhere near the Beatles in terms of greatest ever.

...yet.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

(Blows Against the Empire being one of the first concept albums, just like Sgt. Peppers was for the Beatles (although the first major concept album was Days of Future Passed by The Moody Blues))

Again, I think perhaps you should get your timeline straight.

Release Dates
June 1, 1967: The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
November 11, 1967: Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed


And Blows Against the Empire was released some time in 1970.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Anxiety,

it's a bit of a stretch to call Chicago a Beatles "contemporary." Chicago's first album was released in April of '69. The Beatles last recorded album was released in September 1969. (and while Let it Be was released in 1970, it was recorded before Abbey Road - the Sept. 69 release I'm referring too).

Chicago was around prior to being Chicago. They were around for two years as "The Big Thing" and only changed their name (To Chicago Transit Authority, later streamlining it to Chicago) That's makes them a contemporary, but I'll leave it as one existing as the other is entering.

-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

whew! i thought it was jsut me who found that statement odd. i also don't know how you put the Moody Blues and Beatles in the same sentence. i don't want to assume i know more about music history than everyone, but that was indeed the first time i ever heard of the Moody Blues not only being an influential band but also being a Beatles contemporary. i hope this wasn't a case of personal likes influencing an opinion. like i said i love the RHCP but even i know they don't belong anywhere near the Beatles in terms of greatest ever.

...yet.

Moody Blues First Number One Single, Go Now, was released in 1966.

As for being influential, The Moody Blues had the first Top 40 Single with spoken poetry over it ("Night in White Satin" off Days of Future Passed) which was repeated over and over again in music history, and it is cited as the first appearance of a "Eurorap", where a person speaks lyrics as opposed to singing them. Debate rages as to whether it can actually be called the first rap Top 40 single, (with other's wanting a more African rhythm before it can be called rap, they cite Blondie's "Rapture" as the first. An interesting discussion, but not germaine for this) The Moody Blues became much more experimental in music than the Beatles, while remaining very successful. This inculded included going orchestral, then being one of the leading electronic music makers in the late 70's and early 80's.

"Days of Future Passed" by the way, was on the charts for almost four years (two years in its initial release, two more years with its re-release in 1972).

The Moody Blues were the first to popularize the Mellotron, a keyboard instrument that replicates a variety of sounds and has since become popular. They were among the first bands to record with new processes and materials, so that their music sounds cleaner than most in the era. These are a few technical notes, but they were influential.

As to which concept album was first, Days or Sgt., I had heard by music experts that Days was first. Maybe they were mistaken, or maybe they were referring to something else, like the date of a finished recording, or the date each group began working on the album, or such (since, Days used the London Orchestra, it probably took more time to complete, but who knows?) I have neither the time nor the inclination to look it up, so I will acceede that point with the above caveat.

Make no mistake, The Moody Blues were contemporaries, and they were very influential.

-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Again, I think perhaps you should get your timeline straight.

Release Dates
June 1, 1967: The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
November 11, 1967: Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed


And Blows Against the Empire was released some time in 1970.

I know, that's why I said one of the first for Blows. Blows was to Jefferson Airplane what Sgt. is to Beatles. See my above post for other info as to the Moody Blues.

-Anxiety

[Ksyrup]

Boooooooo!



Frontman Jaymz of BEATALLICA, the Internet sensation who combine the work of THE BEATLES with the sound of early METALLICA, will be a special guest on "The Classic Metal Show" this Saturday, February 19. Jaymz will be on to discuss the recent "cease and desist" order that was slapped on the band courtesy of Sony/ATV Music Publishing and THE BEATLES. He will talk about the band's options for possible recourse, as well as how it feels to be legally threatened by the "suits" at Sony.

[sovereignstar]

Damn. I missed this one.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

As for being influential, The Moody Blues had the first Top 40 Single with spoken poetry over it ("Night in White Satin" off Days of Future Passed) which was repeated over and over again in music history, and it is cited as the first appearance of a "Eurorap", where a person speaks lyrics as opposed to singing them. Debate rages as to whether it can actually be called the first rap Top 40 single, (with other's wanting a more African rhythm before it can be called rap, they cite Blondie's "Rapture" as the first. An interesting discussion, but not germaine for this)

Not to go off on a tangent, but I would have a hard time giving "Nights in White Satin" too much credit for that considering it's a coda to the song (that has been cut from the greatest hits album, no less) rather than integral to it.

[Draft Dodger]

not quite the same thing, but I like the Beatles / Beastie Boys mash (The Beastles)
http://halley.lunarpages.com/~djbc002/beastles/

kind of surprised this one hasn't been shut down yet. Although the concept isn't exactly fresh anymore, there are some cool songs there, especially Whatcha Want, Lady?