CM 03/04 Transfer Help

[meter3]

Can someone please explain transfers to a dumb american who never followed Euro footie in his life??

Thanks

[Pumpy Tudors]

What about transfers? I don't know everything about them, but I'm just wondering if you have any specific questions. For instance, I have the game running in another window right now, and two teams just offered co-ownership proposals. I never knew what co-ownership was until just now. I love learning new things about this game, even though I'm horrid at it.

[meter3]

I guess just an overview of how they work....I dont even understand the concept.

Is it basicly trading money for a player? Can you trade player for player?

Thanks

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, most of the transfers are the buying/selling of a player. You CAN do a player-for-player exchange, though I'd imagine that it's not very common.

[klayman]

Originally Posted by meter3

I guess just an overview of how they work....I dont even understand the concept.

Is it basicly trading money for a player? Can you trade player for player?

Thanks

Think of it as purchasing the rights to the player, and it's similar to trading money for a player. You can trade player for player, but players have to agree to personal terms with their new teams or the deal is terminated, so transfering player for player is rare unless both players want out of their respective clubs.

Most deals now a days are long term purchases with money being paid over several installments, instead of the lump sums used in the past. Co-ownership is something exclusive to the Italian League in CM 03/04. Basically two teams own the rights to a player, and in order to transfer him you would have to negotiate a transfer payment with both clubs.

[Scholes]

In baseball terms, if, say the Yankees wanted Vladimir Guerrero, instead of going to Guerrero, they would have to go to the Angels, who would demand a certain amount of money from the Yankees, Guerrero's "value" to the team. Let's say the fee was 17,000,000 dollars. If the Yankees paid the Angels that amount and the Angels deemed that amount worthy, then that would give them the right to negotiate a contract with Guerrero, and if he accepts, he's a Yankee. If he doesn't the 17,000,000 doesn't change hands and he remains an Angel.

There are other parts to it all, like minimum fee clauses, for example if the Angels set Guerrero's minimum fee at 13,000,000, then any team paying that amount to the Angels gets to offer him a contract automatically, the Angels can't refuse it.

Loans are a different sort of deal. The A's, for instance, have recently deemed Rich Harden surplus to requirements and have sent him to AAA. If the majors had loans, then they could have loaned him for a period of time ranging from a month to the season, to the Brewers, with the Brewers paying all, none or a portion of his contract for the season. That way, he gets to face major league hitting, the Brewers gets a good arm at a cheap deal, and the A's don't have to pay all of his salary for the season. Loans are a great way for lower league teams to compete, borrowing players from the bigger clubs.

You can trade player for player, as stated in the post above.

Any other questions feel free to ask. There's a lot more to it, but those are some basics.

[meter3]

Thanks fellas...At least now it makes a little sense. I did think it was weird that I was "paying" for a transfer, then had to negotiate a deal with the player. I thought by paying for the transfer I was paying for him and his contract....


Thanks again