The Alamo : The Movie .

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-12-2004, 04:11 PM

I just saw The Alamo on saturday and I was impressed . The cinematics, and the battle I feel were pretty accurate . Though Crockett's last stand may have been a little too cheesy it was pretty funny .

Franklinnoble · 04-12-2004, 04:14 PM

Yeah... I always thought Sonny Crockett looked cheesy in those pastel suits.

sachmo71 · 04-12-2004, 04:19 PM

Really? I though that the movie might reach new levels of suckitude.

Maple Leafs · 04-12-2004, 04:21 PM

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Really? I though that the movie might reach new levels of suckitude.

Based on the box office numbers, you weren't the only one.

stevew · 04-12-2004, 04:22 PM

I heard it sucked. And after Opie left the directors chair, I knew it was gonna be a bomb.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-12-2004, 04:23 PM

Bah! only $ 9 million!!!!! Wow! Still a good movie neverthless though . Wonder what could have gone wrong ......Oh well there's always TROY .

stevew · 04-12-2004, 04:23 PM

29% Fresh
Average rating 5/10

I'd be interested in it if it was on HBO, or maybe rental.

stevew · 04-12-2004, 04:24 PM

Troy is gonna suck. Write it down.

JeeberD · 04-12-2004, 11:27 PM

It was an OK movie, but there were some historical discrepancies that bothered me a bit...

hukarez · 04-12-2004, 11:32 PM

Like the 'Passion of Christ'...I have to wonder how this particular movie ends as well. Hmm...!

Hurst2112 · 04-12-2004, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

I just saw The Alamo on saturday and I was impressed . The cinematics, and the battle I feel were pretty accurate . Though Crockett's last stand may have been a little too cheesy it was pretty funny .

Did Crockett even die there? I heard that he actually might not have.

Hurst2112 · 04-12-2004, 11:44 PM

dola, I like the farside cartoon with the fat kid in a sad face, selling "we won" shirts below the wooden fence wall. There are people getting shot around him and his face is classic Larson.

MrBug708 · 04-12-2004, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

Did Crockett even die there? I heard that he actually might not have.

You're thinking of Billy the Kid and Young Guns 2

JeeberD · 04-13-2004, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

dola, I like the farside cartoon with the fat kid in a sad face, selling "we won" shirts below the wooden fence wall. There are people getting shot around him and his face is classic Larson.

NO NO NO!!!

The shirt says "I kicked Santa Anna's butt at the Alamo."

Or something like that...

JeeberD · 04-13-2004, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

Did Crockett even die there? I heard that he actually might not have.

Dola-

Actually, there's been some speculation that he may have been taken prisoner and taken back to Mexico City. I remember reading a report several years ago that a researcher thought that he had found Crockett's skull down there, but I don't remember ever hearing an update on that. I think that if it was proven to be his it would have been a big deal...

Glengoyne · 04-13-2004, 12:21 AM

There is a diary excerpt from a Mexican soldier that indicates Crockett survived the battle, but was taken prisoner along with about 5 others. Santa Anna then had them executed, according to his previous orders to that effect.

randal7 · 04-13-2004, 09:13 AM

I read a book a couple years ago (unfortunately I don't remember the title or author) about the Alamo. The authored had researched fairly extensively and his conclusion was that although it was impossible to ever prove one way or another, it was most likely that Crockett did in fact die fighting at the Alamo. This was based on accounts of civilians who were inside the fort during the battle (my memory is they were Mexican females who were cooks, maids, etc.).

Jon · 04-13-2004, 09:25 AM

I'm reading a book now about Crockett, Bowie, and Travis and he says that we won't know for sure what really happened to Crockett. He did, however, point out that if Crockett was executed, it was likely inside the grounds and not in Mexico City. It's a good book, so far.
Apparently this author was able to access military archives in Mexico and make some interesting discoveries about what happened.

I thought the movie was okay, not great, but not totally bad. It was definately more historically accurate than either the John Wayne or previous Alamo movies. Oddly enough, for the first time, I agree with the N.Y. Times review, in that the movie tried to do so much that it did nothing.

Hammer755 · 04-13-2004, 09:28 AM

What I've taken from most reviews/opinions is that it is far more accurate than the John Wayne version, but a much worse movie.

Either way, I'm going to check it out tonight.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-13-2004, 11:31 PM

I too have heard many speculations that Crocket may have survived and live the rest of his days quietly in Mexico or Tennessee...it;s possible but I doubt it. I guess anyone's guess about him is as good as anybody's. The fact is that the siege really did take place and it has been made into many movies.
I just saw The John Wayne version and couldn't help but laugh at many historical errors in the movie.

04-12-2004, 04:23 PM	#6
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Bah! only $ 9 million!!!!! Wow! Still a good movie neverthless though . Wonder what could have gone wrong ......Oh well there's always TROY . __________________ Toujour Pret

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04-12-2004, 11:44 PM	#12
Hurst2112 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis	dola, I like the farside cartoon with the fat kid in a sad face, selling "we won" shirts below the wooden fence wall. There are people getting shot around him and his face is classic Larson. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/longliveanalog

04-13-2004, 09:28 AM	#19
Hammer755 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, TX	What I've taken from most reviews/opinions is that it is far more accurate than the John Wayne version, but a much worse movie. Either way, I'm going to check it out tonight. __________________ I failed Signature 101 class.

04-12-2004, 04:14 PM	#2
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Yeah... I always thought Sonny Crockett looked cheesy in those pastel suits.

04-12-2004, 04:19 PM	#3
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Really? I though that the movie might reach new levels of suckitude.

04-12-2004, 04:22 PM	#5
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I heard it sucked. And after Opie left the directors chair, I knew it was gonna be a bomb.

04-12-2004, 04:24 PM	#8
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Troy is gonna suck. Write it down.

04-13-2004, 12:21 AM	#16
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	There is a diary excerpt from a Mexican soldier that indicates Crockett survived the battle, but was taken prisoner along with about 5 others. Santa Anna then had them executed, according to his previous orders to that effect.

04-13-2004, 09:13 AM	#17
randal7 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003	I read a book a couple years ago (unfortunately I don't remember the title or author) about the Alamo. The authored had researched fairly extensively and his conclusion was that although it was impossible to ever prove one way or another, it was most likely that Crockett did in fact die fighting at the Alamo. This was based on accounts of civilians who were inside the fort during the battle (my memory is they were Mexican females who were cooks, maids, etc.).

04-13-2004, 09:25 AM	#18
Jon High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm reading a book now about Crockett, Bowie, and Travis and he says that we won't know for sure what really happened to Crockett. He did, however, point out that if Crockett was executed, it was likely inside the grounds and not in Mexico City. It's a good book, so far. Apparently this author was able to access military archives in Mexico and make some interesting discoveries about what happened. I thought the movie was okay, not great, but not totally bad. It was definately more historically accurate than either the John Wayne or previous Alamo movies. Oddly enough, for the first time, I agree with the N.Y. Times review, in that the movie tried to do so much that it did nothing.

04-13-2004, 11:31 PM	#20
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I too have heard many speculations that Crocket may have survived and live the rest of his days quietly in Mexico or Tennessee...it;s possible but I doubt it. I guess anyone's guess about him is as good as anybody's. The fact is that the siege really did take place and it has been made into many movies. I just saw The John Wayne version and couldn't help but laugh at many historical errors in the movie. __________________ Toujour Pret

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