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Old 04-15-2004, 03:06 PM   #1
Ben E Lou
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Financial Reference for OOTP6 Preview

Just putting this here for reference for OOTP Preview Stuff. Financial starting points for new restart league. Too long to put in the main thread...

League Financial Report
Thursday, 4/1/2004
PAYROLLS
# TeamPayroll
1 Chicago (A)$82,734,286
2 Houston$71,234,286
3 New York (A)$71,222,857
4 Cleveland$70,152,857
5 New York (N)$67,291,428
6 Tampa Bay$66,977,143
7 Cincinnati$66,100,000
8 Toronto$63,545,715
9 Detroit$63,094,286
10 Philadelphia$62,840,000
11 Baltimore$62,312,858
12 Boston$61,890,001
13 Chicago (N)$60,794,287
14 Florida$60,041,429
15 Montreal$57,602,858
16 Atlanta$55,215,715
HIGHEST PAID PLAYERS
# Pos NameTeam Salary
1 CF Evelio UseraC( $16,390,000
2 CF Jacob BoltzNY $15,750,000
3 CF Robert CisnerosNY $13,500,000
4 CF Daniel ChinnCIN $13,370,000
5 RF Mark MounceTOR $13,180,000
6 1B Nihachirou YukinagaBOS $12,900,000
7 2B Kungorou RintaroHOU $11,800,000
8 SS Christopher BoergerBAL $11,020,000
9 1B Frank BurkleyATL $10,550,000
10 1B Michael BrooksDET $10,270,000
11 P Keikichi FujimaroCLE $9,810,000
12 P Valeriano BalanPHI $9,610,000
13 2B Wilfred GreenBAL $9,250,000
14 P Kelvin ImhoffC( $9,070,000
15 P George MejiaFLO $8,860,000
16 1B Roland MurphreeCLE $8,790,000
17 LF Ronald YoungC( $8,400,000
18 3B Joel EsnaiderTB $8,060,000
19 P Larry LarkC( $7,600,000
20 P Willie AldreyCIN $7,460,000
21 RF Eduardo GuerreroFLO $7,340,000
22 LF Hernan RomeoMON $7,080,000
23 2B Dominic VerdugoTB $7,080,000
24 3B Edwin BehanPHI $6,990,000
25 SS Pasqual SanchezPHI $6,990,000
ATTENDANCE
# TeamATTENDANCE 2004ATTENDANCE 2003
1 Chicago (A)02,227,500
2 Houston02,227,500
3 New York (A)02,227,500
4 Cleveland02,227,500
5 New York (N)02,227,500
6 Tampa Bay02,227,500
7 Cincinnati02,227,500
8 Toronto02,227,500
9 Detroit02,227,500
10 Philadelphia02,227,500
11 Baltimore02,227,500
12 Boston02,227,500
13 Chicago (N)02,227,500
14 Florida02,227,500
15 Montreal02,227,500
16 Atlanta02,227,500
Baltimore
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,699,497
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$62,312,858
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,974,497
Total Player Expenses$0$62,312,858
Total +/-$39,000,000$10,661,639
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$22,511,163
$$ left for Free Agents$15,661,639
Boston
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,699,031
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$61,890,001
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,974,031
Total Player Expenses$0$61,890,001
Total +/-$39,000,000$11,084,030
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$29,930,697
$$ left for Free Agents$16,084,030
New York (A)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$45,000,000$45,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$13,497,257
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$71,222,857
Total Revenue$45,000,000$80,772,257
Total Player Expenses$0$71,222,857
Total +/-$45,000,000$9,549,400
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$27,298,923
$$ left for Free Agents$14,549,400
Tampa Bay
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$43,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$12,897,132
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$66,977,143
Total Revenue$43,000,000$78,172,132
Total Player Expenses$0$66,977,143
Total +/-$43,000,000$11,194,989
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$19,515,465
$$ left for Free Agents$16,194,989
Toronto
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,695,116
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$63,545,715
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,970,116
Total Player Expenses$0$63,545,715
Total +/-$39,000,000$9,424,401
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$23,183,449
$$ left for Free Agents$14,424,401
Chicago (A)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$49,000,000$49,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$14,699,587
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$82,734,286
Total Revenue$49,000,000$85,974,587
Total Player Expenses$0$82,734,286
Total +/-$49,000,000$3,240,301
Cash$3,240,301
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$14,274,888
$$ left for Free Agents$6,480,602
Cleveland
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$45,000,000$45,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$13,501,889
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$70,152,857
Total Revenue$45,000,000$80,776,889
Total Player Expenses$0$70,152,857
Total +/-$45,000,000$10,624,032
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$29,126,889
$$ left for Free Agents$15,624,032
Detroit
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,698,336
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$63,094,286
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,973,336
Total Player Expenses$0$63,094,286
Total +/-$39,000,000$9,879,050
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$20,016,669
$$ left for Free Agents$14,879,050
Atlanta
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,700,114
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$55,215,715
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,975,114
Total Player Expenses$0$55,215,715
Total +/-$39,000,000$17,759,399
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$39,868,447
$$ left for Free Agents$22,759,399
Florida
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,702,140
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$60,041,429
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,977,140
Total Player Expenses$0$60,041,429
Total +/-$39,000,000$12,935,711
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$26,247,141
$$ left for Free Agents$17,935,711
Montreal
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,702,354
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$57,602,858
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,977,354
Total Player Expenses$0$57,602,858
Total +/-$39,000,000$15,374,496
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$28,957,353
$$ left for Free Agents$20,374,496
New York (N)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$43,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$12,900,365
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$67,291,428
Total Revenue$43,000,000$78,175,365
Total Player Expenses$0$67,291,428
Total +/-$43,000,000$10,883,937
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$19,235,365
$$ left for Free Agents$15,883,937
Philadelphia
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,696,733
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$62,840,000
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,971,733
Total Player Expenses$0$62,840,000
Total +/-$39,000,000$10,131,733
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$26,451,734
$$ left for Free Agents$15,131,733
Chicago (N)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$11,695,629
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$60,794,287
Total Revenue$39,000,000$72,970,629
Total Player Expenses$0$60,794,287
Total +/-$39,000,000$12,176,342
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$21,407,295
$$ left for Free Agents$17,176,342
Cincinnati
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$43,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$12,895,345
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$66,100,000
Total Revenue$43,000,000$78,170,345
Total Player Expenses$0$66,100,000
Total +/-$43,000,000$12,070,345
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$27,400,345
$$ left for Free Agents$17,070,345
Houston
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest65 / 100
Attendance02,227,500
Attendance / Game027,500
Attendance Revenue$0$22,275,000
Revenue / Game$0$275,000
Broadcasting Revenue$45,000,000$45,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$0$13,500,060
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$0$0
Payroll$71,234,286
Total Revenue$45,000,000$80,775,060
Total Player Expenses$0$71,234,286
Total +/-$45,000,000$9,540,774
Cash$5,000,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$27,731,726
$$ left for Free Agents$14,540,774

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And now, for comparison sake, here we are 16 years later. I am not that familiar with the financials, so I'll leave the analysis to others. Re-opening thread.
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Old 04-16-2004, 04:19 AM   #3
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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League Financial Report
Thursday, 4/15/2020
PAYROLLS
# TeamPayroll
1 Chicago (N)$79,827,543
2 Houston$79,822,158
3 New York (N)$76,623,944
4 Cleveland$76,028,543
5 New York (A)$71,615,214
6 Atlanta$67,868,186
7 Tampa Bay$66,108,200
8 Philadelphia$64,594,214
9 Detroit$63,765,357
10 Cincinnati$62,406,815
11 Baltimore$61,153,629
12 Chicago (A)$57,012,228
13 Montreal$48,329,486
14 Florida$46,532,914
15 Boston$38,417,543
16 Toronto$31,099,886
HIGHEST PAID PLAYERS
# Pos NameTeam Salary
1 CF Timothy JosephsonBAL $20,350,000
2 P Kenneth LlewellynC( $15,049,200
3 P Stan RoccoCLE $13,238,000
4 P Joel PerezHOU $13,102,800
5 P Don YoshiteruATL $13,014,900
6 P Manuel RubinoCLE $12,245,600
7 1B Tommy BurnesC( $12,140,000
8 P John PrimeC( $12,066,600
9 RF Cristopher GodinezC( $11,910,000
10 LF George ViaderPHI $11,730,000
11 2B Frederick RichardsPHI $11,145,300
12 2B David EveretteNY $11,088,400
13 P Rudy BragdonDET $11,040,000
14 P Zenko KumaTB $10,993,500
15 SS Fermin DelgadilloBAL $10,982,200
16 P David MontejanoNY $10,820,000
17 2B Benjamin RobinsonC( $10,707,100
18 C Darnell BishopCIN $10,602,000
19 C Leopoldo MatosATL $10,560,000
20 P Randall BeatonHOU $10,557,500
21 SS Raymond EnriquezDET $9,815,900
22 C Dennis CarlsNY $9,769,600
23 RF Daniel CorriganCIN $9,600,000
24 CF Stanford RichardsonC( $9,350,000
25 P Jeffery EbersoleC( $9,210,000
ATTENDANCE
# TeamATTENDANCE 2020ATTENDANCE 2019
1 New York (A)359,8113,524,981
2 Cleveland323,8043,081,236
3 Cincinnati309,3832,339,736
4 Baltimore265,8403,249,163
5 Atlanta257,7322,830,533
6 Tampa Bay256,7943,113,174
7 New York (N)236,0163,296,282
8 Philadelphia213,1532,332,134
9 Chicago (N)198,3182,747,011
10 Florida156,9242,782,867
11 Toronto145,1651,753,644
12 Montreal136,1772,099,833
13 Houston130,8152,342,980
14 Detroit122,2912,105,068
15 Boston88,9991,048,551
16 Chicago (A)78,1531,262,002
Baltimore
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest87 / 100
Attendance265,8403,249,163
Attendance / Game44,30740,113
Attendance Revenue$2,658,400$32,491,630
Revenue / Game$443,067$401,131
Broadcasting Revenue$45,000,000$47,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,127,372$13,800,025
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$2,658,400$2,658,400
Payroll$61,153,629
Total Revenue$48,785,772$93,291,655
Total Player Expenses$6,157,436$78,304,337
Total +/-$42,628,336$14,987,318
Cash$8,835,500
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$49,518,288
$$ left for Free Agents$38,973,526
Boston
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest25 / 100
Attendance88,9991,048,551
Attendance / Game14,83312,945
Attendance Revenue$622,993$7,339,857
Revenue / Game$103,832$90,616
Broadcasting Revenue$33,000,000$33,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$896,960$11,098,802
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$622,993$622,993
Payroll$38,417,543
Total Revenue$34,519,953$51,438,659
Total Player Expenses$6,208,317$56,973,346
Total +/-$28,311,636$-5,534,687
Cash$-5,550,900
Ticket Price$7
$$ left for Extensions$30,624,959
$$ left for Free Agents$7,470,216
New York (A)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest96 / 100
Attendance359,8113,524,981
Attendance / Game44,97643,518
Attendance Revenue$3,598,110$35,249,810
Revenue / Game$449,764$435,183
Broadcasting Revenue$49,000,000$47,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,086,173$13,721,287
Play-Offs Revenue$0$2,243,571
Attendance Revenue$3,598,110$3,598,110
Payroll$71,615,214
Total Revenue$53,684,283$98,214,668
Total Player Expenses$6,141,696$69,573,342
Total +/-$47,542,587$28,641,326
Cash$8,616,500
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$54,308,730
$$ left for Free Agents$34,972,383
Tampa Bay
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest82 / 100
Attendance256,7943,113,174
Attendance / Game36,68538,434
Attendance Revenue$2,567,940$31,131,740
Revenue / Game$366,849$384,342
Broadcasting Revenue$47,000,000$47,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,146,282$14,436,040
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$2,567,940$2,567,940
Payroll$66,108,200
Total Revenue$50,714,222$92,567,780
Total Player Expenses$6,412,097$70,684,245
Total +/-$44,302,125$21,883,535
Cash$9,077,200
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$69,386,780
$$ left for Free Agents$35,536,780
Toronto
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest38 / 100
Attendance145,1651,753,644
Attendance / Game20,73821,650
Attendance Revenue$1,161,320$15,729,746
Revenue / Game$165,903$194,194
Broadcasting Revenue$35,000,000$35,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$947,966$11,692,511
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$1,161,320$1,161,320
Payroll$31,099,886
Total Revenue$37,109,286$62,422,257
Total Player Expenses$3,565,701$36,326,874
Total +/-$33,543,585$26,095,383
Cash$7,763,000
Ticket Price$8
$$ left for Extensions$48,879,657
$$ left for Free Agents$39,085,371
Chicago (A)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest25 / 100
Attendance78,1531,262,002
Attendance / Game15,63115,580
Attendance Revenue$547,071$9,369,684
Revenue / Game$109,414$115,675
Broadcasting Revenue$43,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,103,652$13,610,527
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$547,071$547,071
Payroll$57,012,228
Total Revenue$44,650,723$65,980,211
Total Player Expenses$5,641,191$53,349,751
Total +/-$39,009,532$12,630,460
Cash$6,341,500
Ticket Price$7
$$ left for Extensions$20,817,577
$$ left for Free Agents$15,309,483
Cleveland
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest84 / 100
Attendance323,8043,081,236
Attendance / Game40,47638,040
Attendance Revenue$3,238,040$30,812,360
Revenue / Game$404,755$380,400
Broadcasting Revenue$47,000,000$45,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,119,762$14,119,578
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$3,238,040$3,238,040
Payroll$76,028,543
Total Revenue$51,357,802$89,931,938
Total Player Expenses$6,395,540$70,683,676
Total +/-$44,962,262$19,248,262
Cash$8,533,400
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$44,208,671
$$ left for Free Agents$24,436,795
Detroit
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest52 / 100
Attendance122,2912,105,068
Attendance / Game24,45825,988
Attendance Revenue$1,222,910$20,705,369
Revenue / Game$244,582$255,622
Broadcasting Revenue$37,000,000$37,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$905,634$11,060,741
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$1,222,910$1,222,910
Payroll$63,765,357
Total Revenue$39,128,544$68,766,110
Total Player Expenses$6,682,772$52,708,823
Total +/-$32,445,772$16,057,287
Cash$8,946,500
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$16,908,443
$$ left for Free Agents$13,947,253
Atlanta
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest73 / 100
Attendance257,7322,830,533
Attendance / Game36,81934,945
Attendance Revenue$2,577,320$28,305,330
Revenue / Game$368,189$349,449
Broadcasting Revenue$41,000,000$41,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$854,619$11,613,711
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$2,577,320$2,577,320
Payroll$67,868,186
Total Revenue$44,431,939$80,919,041
Total Player Expenses$7,848,859$79,959,436
Total +/-$36,583,080$959,605
Cash$4,723,205
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$38,506,346
$$ left for Free Agents$17,774,060
Florida
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest57 / 100
Attendance156,9242,782,867
Attendance / Game26,15434,356
Attendance Revenue$1,569,240$27,828,670
Revenue / Game$261,540$343,564
Broadcasting Revenue$43,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$803,150$9,998,675
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$1,569,240$1,569,240
Payroll$46,532,914
Total Revenue$45,372,390$80,827,345
Total Player Expenses$7,167,402$57,188,764
Total +/-$38,204,988$23,638,581
Cash$8,581,200
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$56,539,344
$$ left for Free Agents$42,875,631
Montreal
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest55 / 100
Attendance136,1772,099,833
Attendance / Game27,23525,924
Attendance Revenue$1,361,770$20,998,330
Revenue / Game$272,354$259,239
Broadcasting Revenue$39,000,000$39,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,126,074$13,781,881
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$1,361,770$1,361,770
Payroll$48,329,486
Total Revenue$41,487,844$73,780,211
Total Player Expenses$4,943,559$72,155,227
Total +/-$36,544,285$1,624,984
Cash$7,507,584
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$55,712,861
$$ left for Free Agents$32,958,309
New York (N)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest86 / 100
Attendance236,0163,296,282
Attendance / Game39,33640,695
Attendance Revenue$2,360,160$32,962,820
Revenue / Game$393,360$406,948
Broadcasting Revenue$45,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$955,398$13,006,528
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$2,360,160$2,360,160
Payroll$76,623,944
Total Revenue$48,315,558$88,969,348
Total Player Expenses$9,501,317$91,510,566
Total +/-$38,814,241$-2,541,218
Cash$3,221,082
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$26,577,462
$$ left for Free Agents$17,566,486
Philadelphia
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest61 / 100
Attendance213,1532,332,134
Attendance / Game30,45028,792
Attendance Revenue$2,131,530$23,321,340
Revenue / Game$304,504$287,918
Broadcasting Revenue$37,000,000$37,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,014,961$12,425,831
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$2,131,530$2,131,530
Payroll$64,594,214
Total Revenue$40,146,491$72,747,171
Total Player Expenses$5,183,516$72,491,979
Total +/-$34,962,975$255,192
Cash$7,909,892
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$27,003,630
$$ left for Free Agents$16,062,849
Chicago (N)
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest61 / 100
Attendance198,3182,747,011
Attendance / Game28,33133,914
Attendance Revenue$1,983,180$27,470,110
Revenue / Game$283,311$339,137
Broadcasting Revenue$43,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$972,051$11,894,170
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$1,983,180$1,983,180
Payroll$79,827,543
Total Revenue$45,955,231$82,364,280
Total Player Expenses$6,389,251$69,921,553
Total +/-$39,565,980$12,442,727
Cash$8,425,600
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$44,408,513
$$ left for Free Agents$10,962,337
Cincinnati
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest77 / 100
Attendance309,3832,339,736
Attendance / Game38,67328,886
Attendance Revenue$3,093,830$22,585,058
Revenue / Game$386,729$278,828
Broadcasting Revenue$45,000,000$43,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,024,681$12,522,626
Play-Offs Revenue$0$2,168,821
Attendance Revenue$3,093,830$3,093,830
Payroll$62,406,815
Total Revenue$49,118,511$80,276,505
Total Player Expenses$5,849,454$65,560,292
Total +/-$43,269,057$14,716,213
Cash$9,175,900
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$49,105,184
$$ left for Free Agents$26,876,769
Houston
CategoryThis YearLast Year
Fan Interest57 / 100
Attendance130,8152,342,980
Attendance / Game26,16328,926
Attendance Revenue$1,308,150$23,429,800
Revenue / Game$261,630$289,257
Broadcasting Revenue$51,000,000$51,000,000
Merchandising Revenue$1,083,605$13,791,669
Play-Offs Revenue$0$0
Attendance Revenue$1,308,150$1,308,150
Payroll$79,822,158
Total Revenue$53,391,755$88,221,469
Total Player Expenses$12,168,762$82,319,072
Total +/-$41,222,993$5,902,397
Cash$8,474,000
Ticket Price$10
$$ left for Extensions$26,754,702
$$ left for Free Agents$16,873,311

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Is it possible something happened in formatting, otherwise it seems like MANY teams are having a huge change for the worse in marketing revenue in this season as compared to the last season column.

Edit: Nevermind, you must be mid year, because the attendance revenue is showing the same trend.
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Is it possible something happened in formatting, otherwise it seems like MANY teams are having a huge change for the worse in marketing revenue in this season as compared to the last season column.

Edit: Nevermind, you must be mid year, because the attendance revenue is showing the same trend.


Yep, it appears he is exactly 5 games into the season for most teams
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Yeah...uh...this is meant to compare to 16 years earlier. Look at the date on the second one. It is *very* early in the season.
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At first glance, it seems like the merchandising issue has improved.
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At first glance, it seems like the merchandising issue has improved.


Sean, that was my first instinct as well until I went back and looked at my old notes. At second glance, it appears to be the same.

The current problem with merchandising revenue is that it changes but not by much over a period of a few years. The above example is a 16 year time frame where most teams did not change much at all (a few million here or there).

The reason why it bites alot of people in online leagues is by default unless you change it, OOTP initially bases merchandising revenue on what it starts at (and that usually is defined in the initial draft based on team salary, or in leagues with no initial draft it seems to be more random.) The issue as it is today, a team that goes from a small payroll (Tampa Bay as an example) with a low merchandising revenue who then turns their team into a 5 time WS winner, will likely have increased fan interest, increased ticket sells, increased broadcasting revenue, but merchandising revenue likely will not increase that much from year to year.

I don't think the above examples gives a whole lot of change from what we see now. We currently now see 2 million dollar swings in merchandising revenue over a 10 year period, which is what we see there.

What might be hard to tell is what happened year to year in Skydog's league. If it changed faster year to year then that would probably be improved somewhat.
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Sean, that was my first instinct as well until I went back and looked at my old notes. At second glance, it appears to be the same.
I think you may be right.

Keep in mind that SkyDog's league started with fairly equal finances. Most online leagues start with unbalanced situations (Yankees with $35M merchandising, Devil Rays with $10M). That's a permanent $25M advantage, which makes it next to impossible for small market teams to ever compete on equal footing, even if they turn themselves into big markets.

This is a huge issue for online leagues, and it looks like it wasn't addressed... again.
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That was my thought too, Alan. It does appear to be improved, but I think part of that may come from SkyDog using the adjust market button when he created his fictional universe. Everyone started in a rather narrow band.

The good news is that the band expanded in 16 years, so perhaps that's a good sign.

The other possibility is that Markus has simply adjusted the value of merchandising revenue. This league started with everyone in a narrow band rather than with Tampa Bay at $8 million and New York at $40 million. If the solution to tieing fan support/market size/team success to merchandise revenues was to simply downplay the value of merchandising revenue, I'd be in favor of that.

Of course, it wouldn't fix existing leagues, but if it did that could actually lead to more problems.
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That was my thought too, Alan. It does appear to be improved, but I think part of that may come from SkyDog using the adjust market button when he created his fictional universe. Everyone started in a rather narrow band.

The good news is that the band expanded in 16 years, so perhaps that's a good sign.

The other possibility is that Markus has simply adjusted the value of merchandising revenue. This league started with everyone in a narrow band rather than with Tampa Bay at $8 million and New York at $40 million. If the solution to tieing fan support/market size/team success to merchandise revenues was to simply downplay the value of merchandising revenue, I'd be in favor of that.

Of course, it wouldn't fix existing leagues, but if it did that could actually lead to more problems.


Stabalizing the financial environment at the start was actually always the recommendation, and if done in our league we would not be having the same issues. I just was always amused by a financial value increasing or decreasing from year to year not based on your success but instead based on how much you spent Sounds like my Tax accountant from my 1999 Tax return somehow...
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Stabalizing the financial environment at the start was actually always the recommendation, and if done in our league we would not be having the same issues.
Of course, now that we know OOTP6 isn't addressing it like we hoped, we could actually get off our butts and work on fixing it now.

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