Star Trek vs. Star Wars: Battle for Supremacy

Kodos · 04-19-2004, 03:49 PM

You must consider Star Wars including the prequels and Star Trek including all of the spinoffs. Which is the better series?

Jar Jar throws it in favor of Star Trek in my book.

John Galt · 04-19-2004, 03:53 PM

The Stars Wars prequels decided it for me (and I actually own the DVD's for both of those garbage movies).

sabotai · 04-19-2004, 03:54 PM

Star Trek has more material to work off of. I generally like the Star Wars books over the Star Trek books, but with so many episodes of the TV series, and only 5 Star Wars movies (to Star Treks' 9) kind of make it a horde vs. a small regiment.

Calis · 04-19-2004, 03:55 PM

Was tough deciding on which one sucked less. I voted for Star Wars in the end.

spleen1015 · 04-19-2004, 03:58 PM

Lightsabers!

Neuqua · 04-19-2004, 04:00 PM

Star Trek is for nerds.

John Galt · 04-19-2004, 04:00 PM

Upon further reflection, I want to withdraw my vote because there was no third joke/trout option for me to choose.

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 04:01 PM

I dunno... nothing in the Star Trek universe could stand up to the Death Star, in my opinion.

Kodos · 04-19-2004, 04:02 PM

I didn't want the trout to win.

IMetTrentGreen · 04-19-2004, 04:02 PM

teh death star woudl alnd a few blows of course, but captain kirk could beat it in the end

WSUCougar · 04-19-2004, 04:02 PM

Kirk: Scottie! I need a weapon that'll blow up a Death Star in two minutes or we're all dead.

Scottie: Aye, sir.

Kodos · 04-19-2004, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Kirk: Scottie! I need a weapon that'll blow up a Death Star in two minutes or we're all dead.

Scottie: Aye, sir.

I don't believe in a no-win situation...

Kodos · 04-19-2004, 04:10 PM

DARRRRRRRRRRRRTH!!!

davidlando1 · 04-19-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I dunno... nothing in the Star Trek universe could stand up to the Death Star, in my opinion.

1. The Borg
2. The Genesis Device

3. Seven

tucker342 · 04-19-2004, 04:24 PM

Even with the last two crappy movies... Star wars still wins pretty easily.

lurker · 04-19-2004, 05:09 PM

So what are you supposed to vote for if you've never seen a Star Wars movie or a Star Trek episode?

(And should the fact that my boyfriend has dozens of DS9 tapes in our apartment sway my vote?)

Edit -- seriously, I clicked on the poll, now I'm bummed I can't vote!

Kodos · 04-19-2004, 05:14 PM

You should still be able to vote. I think...

RawIsDan · 04-19-2004, 05:16 PM

I like 'em both. When I was 7 I saw Star Wars when it came out and it was freakin' awesome. However, I always like Star Trek and when I saw STII The Wrath of Khan that kicked ass too.

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker

So what are you supposed to vote for if you've never seen a Star Wars movie or a Star Trek episode?

(And should the fact that my boyfriend has dozens of DS9 tapes in our apartment sway my vote?)

Edit -- seriously, I clicked on the poll, now I'm bummed I can't vote!

Sounds like you must have a trout in your rectum... and there's no available poll option for you.

Bosco · 04-19-2004, 05:17 PM

Star Wars was at one point not exclusively for nerds so it gets the nod.

Rizon · 04-19-2004, 05:19 PM

Princess Leia in a skimpy bikini being held captive by a wet slug.

Folks ... it doesn't get any better than that.

lurker · 04-19-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

You should still be able to vote. I think...

I meant I clicked on a thread with a poll so I still feel like voting, even though I'm totally unqualified. Eh, I'll vote anyway. Star Trek seems like it's for math geeks (like me). Star Wars seems like it's for regular geeks.

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Princess Leia in a skimpy bikini being held captive by a wet slug.

Folks ... it doesn't get any better than that.

Nope... but I saw an interview on TV the other day with Carrie Fisher... and it about ruined that childhood fantasy for me. Has anyone else here seen her lately?

RawIsDan · 04-19-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Princess Leia in a skimpy bikini being held captive by a wet slug.

Folks ... it doesn't get any better than that.

Oh, I don't know, those Star Trek miniskirts were some nice eyecandy.

Franklinnoble · 04-19-2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RawIsDan

Oh, I don't know, those Star Trek miniskirts were some nice eyecandy.

Those are immediately disqualified on the grounds that TNG had GUYS WEARING MINISKIRTS in the pilot episode. WTF were they thinking?

finkenst · 04-19-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Nope... but I saw an interview on TV the other day with Carrie Fisher... and it about ruined that childhood fantasy for me. Has anyone else here seen her lately?

and that's why you don't do drugs, kids.

Dutch · 04-19-2004, 06:39 PM

Why is Star Wars better? It all made sense to everybody.

The Death Star. The damned thing blew up planets. The name fits.

When Han Solo and the Falcon where getting sucked into the Death Star, the bad guys were using their "tractor beam". I understand that.

Lightsabers are sabers made of light. Blaster Pistols were pistols that shot blasts of lazers. It's just perfect for us dumb guys.

In Star Trek, The Death Star would have been named the Iranium Titanoid Planer Sphere Eradicator. A lightsaber would have been a EG-422 Echo-radiator Beamanoid or some shit. I don't I have the time or the inclination to figure out what the hell they are talking about in Star Trek. It's for geeks who don't have jobs, apparently.

However, having said all that, Jar Jar almost made me vote for Star Trek.

kingfc22 · 04-20-2004, 12:04 AM

Vader Rules!!!!!!!!!!

fantastic flying froggies · 04-20-2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Vader Rules!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly !

andy m · 04-20-2004, 04:52 AM

babylon 5.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-20-2004, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

Why is Star Wars better? It all made sense to everybody.

The Death Star. The damned thing blew up planets. The name fits.

When Han Solo and the Falcon where getting sucked into the Death Star, the bad guys were using their "tractor beam". I understand that.

Lightsabers are sabers made of light. Blaster Pistols were pistols that shot blasts of lazers. It's just perfect for us dumb guys.

In Star Trek, The Death Star would have been named the Iranium Titanoid Planer Sphere Eradicator. A lightsaber would have been a EG-422 Echo-radiator Beamanoid or some shit. I don't I have the time or the inclination to figure out what the hell they are talking about in Star Trek. It's for geeks who don't have jobs, apparently.

However, having said all that, Jar Jar almost made me vote for Star Trek.

What's so complicated about photon torpedos, phasers, shields, warp drive, tractor beam? All Star Trek phrases.

I can see where it gets a little confusing at times, especially when sub-space fields or tachyons are mentioned. Tachyons are the end of me. I have no idea what they are or what they do, but they seem to be able to do whatever you need when you need it.

ice4277 · 04-20-2004, 05:03 AM

I love both series (well, except for the new SW movies) but I grew up watching ST:TNG so Star Trek wins due to the nostalgia factor, I guess.

Marc Vaughan · 04-20-2004, 06:28 AM

I love both - Star Trek imho has better quality across the board (ignoring the original Shatner series which had some very tacky episodes) .... BUT I absolutely loved the original star wars series and the books which continued it onward (much better than the prequels imho) so that gets the tip for me.

Sun Tzu · 04-20-2004, 12:08 PM

Make it so.

HornedFrog Purple · 04-20-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

I love both - Star Trek imho has better quality across the board (ignoring the original Shatner series which had some very tacky episodes) .... BUT I absolutely loved the original star wars series and the books which continued it onward (much better than the prequels imho) so that gets the tip for me.

I agree, I think the Thrawn series would have made a great series of movies after Return of the Jedi.

Regarding the original series of Star Trek, I tend to throw the 3rd season away. They were on extreme budget cuts and basically had no writers. That season had Spock's Brain and Abraham Lincoln in space.

But the first two seasons were greatness.

Butter · 04-20-2004, 12:15 PM

ST:TNG was so outstanding for so long, I had to go with that.

Fritz · 04-20-2004, 12:20 PM

[quote=tucker342]Even with the last two crappy movies... QUOTE]

three

Sun Tzu · 04-20-2004, 12:21 PM

I think it was much harder to have a television series be successful for so long as the Trek series, and actualy have it be very good quality television as well. Star Wars in undoubtedly great, but it's only 5-6 hours worth of film. Star Trek crushes Star Wars in this respect. This also allowed you to get attached to characters much more, and you would see pretty much every side to every character as well. Unlike the Star Wars movies where you are limited to what was filmed 20-30 years ago.

WussGawd · 04-20-2004, 03:23 PM

I voted for Star Trek based on two words...JarJar Binks...worst SF character ever.

RawIsDan · 04-20-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Vader Rules!!!!!!!!!!

He did until they unmasked him at the end of Return of the Jedi. Worst...decision..ever !

Chubby · 04-20-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I think it was much harder to have a television series be successful for so long as the Trek series, and actualy have it be very good quality television as well. Star Wars in undoubtedly great, but it's only 5-6 hours worth of film. Star Trek crushes Star Wars in this respect. This also allowed you to get attached to characters much more, and you would see pretty much every side to every character as well. Unlike the Star Wars movies where you are limited to what was filmed 20-30 years ago.

Wasn't the original Star Trek only on for like 3 seasons or something?

Fonzie · 04-20-2004, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RawIsDan

He did until they unmasked him at the end of Return of the Jedi. Worst...decision..ever !

I dunno. I thought that both the Ewoks and JarJar were worse decisions.

SFL Cat · 04-20-2004, 08:44 PM

The original Star Trek series was classic; The first two Star Wars movies (SW and ESB) were classics; Star Trek the Next Generation was decent; ST movies 2, 4, 6, & 8 were decent; Return of the Jedi was decent...Most of the novelizations from both franchises are readable.

...Everything else involving the two franchises has blown chunks. I might have given a slight edge to SW (quality over quantity), but the last two installments of the movie series have soured me completely on Star Wars (not to mention Lucas' idiotic "Special Edition" versions of the original triology)...so Trek gets my nod for now.

Sharpieman · 04-21-2004, 02:09 PM

Star Trek is boring, never enough action and adventure as Star Wars. Plus Star Trek animation sucks compared to Star Wars. I agree that the last 2 star wars movies have sucked, but they still had that hot Natalie Portman chick.

Anthony · 04-21-2004, 07:54 PM

do or do not, there is no try.

revrew · 04-21-2004, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker

So what are you supposed to vote for if you've never seen a Star Wars movie or a Star Trek episode?

(And should the fact that my boyfriend has dozens of DS9 tapes in our apartment sway my vote?)

Edit -- seriously, I clicked on the poll, now I'm bummed I can't vote!

NEVER seen Star Wars or Star Trek???

I'm sorry, lurker, you may be one of our few females on this board, but you just got voted off the island.

never? Oh, for shame!

View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
Star Trek: It is more "Engage"ing!	42	39.25%
Star Wars: The Force is strong in this one.	65	60.75%
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04-19-2004, 03:53 PM	#2
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	The Stars Wars prequels decided it for me (and I actually own the DVD's for both of those garbage movies). __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

04-19-2004, 04:00 PM	#6
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Star Trek is for nerds. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

04-19-2004, 04:00 PM	#7
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	Upon further reflection, I want to withdraw my vote because there was no third joke/trout option for me to choose. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

04-19-2004, 04:02 PM	#11
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Kirk: Scottie! I need a weapon that'll blow up a Death Star in two minutes or we're all dead. Scottie: Aye, sir. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

04-19-2004, 03:54 PM	#3
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Star Trek has more material to work off of. I generally like the Star Wars books over the Star Trek books, but with so many episodes of the TV series, and only 5 Star Wars movies (to Star Treks' 9) kind of make it a horde vs. a small regiment.

04-19-2004, 03:55 PM	#4
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Was tough deciding on which one sucked less. I voted for Star Wars in the end.

04-19-2004, 03:58 PM	#5
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Lightsabers!

04-19-2004, 04:01 PM	#8
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I dunno... nothing in the Star Trek universe could stand up to the Death Star, in my opinion.

04-19-2004, 04:02 PM	#9
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I didn't want the trout to win.

04-19-2004, 04:02 PM	#10
IMetTrentGreen College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Austin, Texas	teh death star woudl alnd a few blows of course, but captain kirk could beat it in the end

04-19-2004, 04:10 PM	#13
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	DARRRRRRRRRRRRTH!!!

04-19-2004, 04:24 PM	#15
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Even with the last two crappy movies... Star wars still wins pretty easily.

04-19-2004, 05:09 PM	#16
lurker High School JV Join Date: May 2001	So what are you supposed to vote for if you've never seen a Star Wars movie or a Star Trek episode? (And should the fact that my boyfriend has dozens of DS9 tapes in our apartment sway my vote?) Edit -- seriously, I clicked on the poll, now I'm bummed I can't vote! Last edited by lurker : 04-19-2004 at 05:10 PM.

04-19-2004, 05:14 PM	#17
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	You should still be able to vote. I think...

04-19-2004, 05:16 PM	#18
RawIsDan High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	I like 'em both. When I was 7 I saw Star Wars when it came out and it was freakin' awesome. However, I always like Star Trek and when I saw STII The Wrath of Khan that kicked ass too.

04-19-2004, 05:17 PM	#20
Bosco H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2003	Star Wars was at one point not exclusively for nerds so it gets the nod.

04-19-2004, 06:39 PM	#27
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Why is Star Wars better? It all made sense to everybody. The Death Star. The damned thing blew up planets. The name fits. When Han Solo and the Falcon where getting sucked into the Death Star, the bad guys were using their "tractor beam". I understand that. Lightsabers are sabers made of light. Blaster Pistols were pistols that shot blasts of lazers. It's just perfect for us dumb guys. In Star Trek, The Death Star would have been named the Iranium Titanoid Planer Sphere Eradicator. A lightsaber would have been a EG-422 Echo-radiator Beamanoid or some shit. I don't I have the time or the inclination to figure out what the hell they are talking about in Star Trek. It's for geeks who don't have jobs, apparently. However, having said all that, Jar Jar almost made me vote for Star Trek.

04-20-2004, 12:04 AM	#28
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Vader Rules!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

04-20-2004, 04:52 AM	#30
andy m High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: norwich, UK	babylon 5. __________________ mostly harmless FOFL 2009 champs - Norwich Quagmire

04-20-2004, 05:03 AM	#32
ice4277 Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkley, MI: The Hotbed of FOFC!	I love both series (well, except for the new SW movies) but I grew up watching ST:TNG so Star Trek wins due to the nostalgia factor, I guess.

04-20-2004, 06:28 AM	#33
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	I love both - Star Trek imho has better quality across the board (ignoring the original Shatner series which had some very tacky episodes) .... BUT I absolutely loved the original star wars series and the books which continued it onward (much better than the prequels imho) so that gets the tip for me.

04-20-2004, 12:08 PM	#34
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Make it so. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

04-20-2004, 12:15 PM	#36
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	ST:TNG was so outstanding for so long, I had to go with that. __________________ My listening habits

04-20-2004, 12:20 PM	#37
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	[quote=tucker342]Even with the last two crappy movies... QUOTE] three __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

04-20-2004, 12:21 PM	#38
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	I think it was much harder to have a television series be successful for so long as the Trek series, and actualy have it be very good quality television as well. Star Wars in undoubtedly great, but it's only 5-6 hours worth of film. Star Trek crushes Star Wars in this respect. This also allowed you to get attached to characters much more, and you would see pretty much every side to every character as well. Unlike the Star Wars movies where you are limited to what was filmed 20-30 years ago. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

04-20-2004, 03:23 PM	#39
WussGawd College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy	I voted for Star Trek based on two words...JarJar Binks...worst SF character ever. __________________ "I guess I'll fade into Bolivian." -Mike Tyson, after being knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Proud Dumba Elect of the "Biggest Dumba of FOFC Award" Author of the 2004 Golden Scribe Gold Trophy for Best Basketball Dynasty, It Rhymes With Puke.

04-20-2004, 08:44 PM	#43
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	The original Star Trek series was classic; The first two Star Wars movies (SW and ESB) were classics; Star Trek the Next Generation was decent; ST movies 2, 4, 6, & 8 were decent; Return of the Jedi was decent...Most of the novelizations from both franchises are readable. ...Everything else involving the two franchises has blown chunks. I might have given a slight edge to SW (quality over quantity), but the last two installments of the movie series have soured me completely on Star Wars (not to mention Lucas' idiotic "Special Edition" versions of the original triology)...so Trek gets my nod for now. Last edited by SFL Cat : 04-20-2004 at 08:46 PM.

04-21-2004, 02:09 PM	#44
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	Star Trek is boring, never enough action and adventure as Star Wars. Plus Star Trek animation sucks compared to Star Wars. I agree that the last 2 star wars movies have sucked, but they still had that hot Natalie Portman chick. __________________ Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

04-21-2004, 07:54 PM	#45
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	do or do not, there is no try.

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