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Old 04-27-2004, 09:10 AM   #1
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help me get my neglected team back on track

Ok, after getting bumped back from D4 to D5, i've pretty much neglected my team. We apparently stumbled to a 3rd place finish in D5 last year, and this season i've paid *some* attention to the team. We're at least cruising to a D5 title and an auto-promotion and/or promotion match.

I've been training playmaking, and really haven't been rotating players at all. Those who happened to be there when i stopped paying attention have benefitted, while some other players have fallen by the wayside. We've been playing a 4-5-1 for ages, so we're obviously great in that department.

What I'm looking for is some advice on how to pick up the pieces, find a direction, and get back to actively managing the team. I get the feeling I should probably sell off some players and/or switch to a new training. I'm also thinking it might be time to switch formations, as 4-5-1 just doesn't really deliever on the offensive level (or can it, with the right players?)

I'll post my entire roster below, and will appreciate any and all input on what I should do.

some more important facts:
My youth squad is excellent, I've I've been routinely pullind passable/solid keepers and selling them.
I'm in great financial shape with 1.3 million (US) in the bank.
My stadium holds 30,000 and doesn't appear to need to be expanded.
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:11 AM   #2
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Your 23 players




Edward Clevenger
139 000 US$, 22 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities



Stamina: solidKeeper: passable
Playmaking: disastrousPassing: disastrous
Winger: disastrousDefending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrousSet Pieces: disastrous




Will Fay
410 000 US$, 24 years, passable form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities



Stamina: inadequateKeeper: solid
Playmaking: disastrousPassing: disastrous
Winger: disastrousDefending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrousSet Pieces: wretched




Dean Babb
660 000 US$, 20 years, solid form
Has poor experience and wretched leadership abilities



Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: outstandingPassing: wretched
Winger: weakDefending: wretched
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: wretched




Frederick Staples
95 000 US$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities [Head]



Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: excellentPassing: poor
Winger: poorDefending: wretched
Scoring: wretchedSet Pieces: wretched


Alan Malin
16 000 US$, 30 years, poor form
Has weak experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretchedPassing: inadequate
Winger: weakDefending: weak
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: inadequate


Alton Lawson
48 000 US$, 20 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequateKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poorPassing: solid
Winger: wretchedDefending: passable
Scoring: wretchedSet Pieces: poor


Bruno Balsiger
39 000 US$, 26 years, passable form
Has poor experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: wretched
Playmaking: poorPassing: inadequate
Winger: wretchedDefending: inadequate
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: passable


Buddy Lopez
72 000 US$, 26 years, solid form
Has inadequate experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weakPassing: passable
Winger: poorDefending: weak
Scoring: inadequateSet Pieces: passable


Byron Bray
4 000 US$, 33 years, weak form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequatePassing: wretched
Winger: inadequateDefending: poor
Scoring: wretchedSet Pieces: solid


Ferdynand Swiderski
498 000 US$, 24 years, passable form
Has inadequate experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: formidableKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: outstandingPassing: poor
Winger: wretchedDefending: disastrous
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: weak


Fulco Pelaez
163 000 US$, 26 years, solid form
Has inadequate experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: wretched
Playmaking: solidPassing: poor
Winger: inadequateDefending: poor
Scoring: wretchedSet Pieces: solid


Gavin Etheridge
22 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weakPassing: weak
Winger: poorDefending: inadequate
Scoring: poorSet Pieces: weak


Geoffrey Wallace
166 000 US$, 23 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Technical]

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: excellentPassing: poor
Winger: wretchedDefending: poor
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: disastrous


Gerard Matthews
78 000 US$, 21 years, poor form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solidPassing: wretched
Winger: disastrousDefending: poor
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: wretched


Haywood Shoemaker
31 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequatePassing: poor
Winger: poorDefending: poor
Scoring: inadequateSet Pieces: poor


Jamey Lind
47 000 US$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poorPassing: weak
Winger: wretchedDefending: passable
Scoring: inadequateSet Pieces: poor


Jose Miguel Esteban
102 000 US$, 28 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and wretched leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: excellentKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: excellentPassing: disastrous
Winger: wretchedDefending: poor
Scoring: poorSet Pieces: poor


Marcus Hall
175 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities [Quick]

Stamina: inadequateKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weakPassing: passable
Winger: solidDefending: weak
Scoring: inadequateSet Pieces: inadequate


Mitchell Kellogg
0 US$, 49 years, wretched form
Has solid experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequateKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: disastrousPassing: disastrous
Winger: disastrousDefending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrousSet Pieces: disastrous


Phil Luce
38 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: solidKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weakPassing: poor
Winger: inadequateDefending: inadequate
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: poor


Scottie Ivey
475 000 US$, 20 years, passable form
Has poor experience and wretched leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: inadequateKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: formidablePassing: poor
Winger: solidDefending: passable
Scoring: weakSet Pieces: wretched


Serafin Barreira
401 000 US$, 20 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: wretchedKeeper: solid
Playmaking: disastrousPassing: wretched
Winger: disastrousDefending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrousSet Pieces: disastrous


Tomas Hultstedt
171 000 US$, 19 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: weakKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weakPassing: inadequate
Winger: passableDefending: poor
Scoring: excellentSet Pieces: poor
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:41 AM   #3
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Did you neglect your HT team the way you neglected your Rutgers TCY dynasty ?

On a more serious note, you need offense. I've found only one player with a scoring above inad, that is a definite need for upgrade.

You're probably all set at keeper, with 2 solids and 1 passable. I'd sell of the 2 solids (probably the 20 yr old, he's still trainable and would bring more money) and keep the passable as backup.

Some of your midfielders can bring some serious money, even with their lousy passing skills.

With the cash you already have, you could have lots of cash to play around with.

I guess my main point is that this is supposed to be fun. You should decide which way you want to go, and then use your money to go there.
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:51 AM   #4
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Did you neglect your HT team the way you neglected your Rutgers TCY dynasty ?

Pretty much.

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On a more serious note, you need offense. I've found only one player with a scoring above inad, that is a definite need for upgrade.

And I *just* bought that player. Should I look for some middies with better scoring?

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You're probably all set at keeper, with 2 solids and 1 passable. I'd sell of the 2 solids (probably the 20 yr old, he's still trainable and would bring more money) and keep the passable as backup.

Yeah, the 20 year old was my most recent pull - he's already on the market. Any idea on what he'll probably go for?
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:55 AM   #5
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And I *just* bought that player. Should I look for some middies with better scoring?
I think your middies look very good right now. It's the other areas you need to upgrade.

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Yeah, the 20 year old was my most recent pull - he's already on the market. Any idea on what he'll probably go for?

Nope, the keeper trainers will be better suited to answer that one.
Where are our experts when we need them ?
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Old 04-27-2004, 09:57 AM   #6
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Is 3-5-2 generally the consenus top formation? I guess maybe I'll look to pick up another forward.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:04 AM   #7
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Solid keepers sell for $200k
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:14 AM   #8
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some of your midfield trainee's are getting rather.... old. I see a couple 24 year olds in there.

If i were you i'd sell a couple of the old ones and buy some new 17 year old solid trainees. In a couple seasons you'll be glad you did.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:21 AM   #9
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I would like to add that scoring on middies is useless. Passing on middies is what improves offense.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:27 AM   #10
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I would like to add that scoring on middies is useless. Passing on middies is what improves offense.

thanks. see I've forgotten almost everything I knew about the details of the game.
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:31 AM   #11
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I'm going to sell this guy, what should I price him at?

Geoffrey Wallace (8479760) 23 years, passable form, healthy A popular guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has wretched experience and disastrous leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 166 000 US$
Wage: 1 260 US$/week
Owner: North Plainfield Plague
Warnings: 0


Stamina: excellent Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: excellent Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: disastrous
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Old 04-27-2004, 10:32 AM   #12
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I would like to add that scoring on middies is useless. Passing on middies is what improves offense.

Although it's useful (for any player) if coupled with set-pieces, right? Even then it may not be worth the extra wages, but just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

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Old 04-27-2004, 11:51 AM   #13
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some of your midfield trainee's are getting rather.... old. I see a couple 24 year olds in there.

If i were you i'd sell a couple of the old ones and buy some new 17 year old solid trainees. In a couple seasons you'll be glad you did.

There will be a new 17 year old (excellent) middie starting in my next friendly.

I think i'm gonna need to toss in a few weeks of stamina training though.

I feel like Dan Snyder tossing around as much cash as I've been recently.
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:57 AM   #14
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Although [scoring]'s useful (for any player) if coupled with set-pieces, right? Even then it may not be worth the extra wages, but just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
Yes, you can get long shot special events from scoring and set pieces, and I'd tend to agree that it's not likely to be worth the extra wages.
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Old 04-27-2004, 12:00 PM   #15
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Is 3-5-2 generally the consenus top formation?
For a midfield trainer, yes, absolutely. You might want to maintain experience in a 4-5-1 so that you can throw it in a match where you need to buff up the defense to keep it close and try to steal a result, but I would recommend against using it as your first choice formation.

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I guess maybe I'll look to pick up another forward.
You'd probably want more than one more, to allow for the vagaries of form and injuries. I'd be thinking of a total of three or four.
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Old 04-27-2004, 02:32 PM   #16
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I didnt think thatset pieces affected worth or wages.
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Old 04-28-2004, 02:24 AM   #17
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Set pieces doesn't, but scoring does. I took Carligula to be talking about wages from the extra scoring -- if you coupled it with set pieces, the scoring wouldn't go completely unused, but it still probably wouldn't be worth the extra wages.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:35 AM   #18
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ok I have a little time before I run to class...
If you are tringing midfield and run the 3-5-2 in both friendlies and league games then this is the roster breakdown I would have...
2 Keepers
2 Central Defenders
4 Wingbacks
4 Wingers
6 Middies (3 starters, not too old...3 young trainiees)
4 Forwards.

You are set at keeper with Fay and Clenger as your backup.
At midfield your starters should probably be Babb, Swerderski, and Staples.
Ivey could be a great TM winger...and Hulstedt is a good forward. Hall is also a solid winger, and is very capable of being a stater. Your team is really lacking defense, and 1 forward...once you fill those holes your starting team should be set. I would look at getting a whole crop of trainees (3- 17 year old IMs and 2- 17 year old wingers). Then after you do that I would shop around for 1 solid backup at defense and forward- then a passable or inad. would be good to fill out the B team. Gotta run to class I will look over it some more when i get home.
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