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Old 05-21-2004, 02:27 PM   #1
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new EHM:FE screens up at SI

http://www.sigames.com/news.php?type...article_id=910

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Old 05-21-2004, 02:29 PM   #2
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the shots on goal screen..... drool...
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Old 05-21-2004, 02:30 PM   #3
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Old 05-21-2004, 02:32 PM   #4
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ahhhh, I didn't see riz had posted this morning in there about it. I only saw the screens linked at the top of the page
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:54 PM   #5
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Old 05-22-2004, 10:21 AM   #6
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I'm know its early but I'm a little concerned about a few of the numbers I saw. Most of the team powerplay numbers were 10% where it should range from 12-21% and it seemed like there were an aweful lot of assists, especially for defensemen. I'm sure its early and it will be aok by release time.
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Old 05-22-2004, 10:34 AM   #7
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I'm know its early but I'm a little concerned about a few of the numbers I saw.

I thought I mentioned this at FOFC already, but here is the explanation for the odd results in those screenshots :

"I turned the match engine off and ran it on holiday." from Graeme Kelly at SI.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:31 AM   #8
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"I turned the match engine off and ran it on holiday." from Graeme Kelly at SI.
Pardon what is probably a dumb question, but... why would you do that? Why turn off the engine when you're going to generate screenshots for your web site, which is your best product marketing vehicle?

I'm sure FOFCers aren't the only ones noticing the odd results... why not run the real engine before showing the results to the public?
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:40 AM   #9
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Ya got me. I don't know why.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:46 AM   #10
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It just seems strange. Don't get me wrong, I've heard nothing but good things about SI and I'll pretty much be buying this game no matter what based on reputation alone.

It just seems odd to post screens that seem to reveal a shaky stat engine, then say "Oh, we'd turned the real engine off for that sim". That sounds almost... .400-ish, doesn't it?
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Old 05-22-2004, 12:35 PM   #11
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I think riz posted a more detailed explanation in another thread. I think they turned off the stat engine because they just wanted to take screens and get them out, they weren't taking screens for the purpose of showing off the engine.
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Old 05-22-2004, 12:45 PM   #12
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If you look at the league leaders scoring table, I'm concerned with the number of defensemen who are in the top 20 in the league in scoring.
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Old 05-22-2004, 06:11 PM   #13
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If you look at the league leaders scoring table, I'm concerned with the number of defensemen who are in the top 20 in the league in scoring.
'tis simply that Graeme had the match engine turned off when he generated the stats as he was in a hurry (debug only option for testing purposes obviously which uses a stripped down match engine in order to get through seasons as fast as possible to test out long term stability of competitions etc.) .... wish he hadn't for obvious reasons (such as this being the fourth times I've mentioned it today ) ... but no stress basically, obviously with the 'real' match engine working things give out better results - the demo will be available shortly which should suitable reassure you ...
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:32 PM   #14
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He, he, the hockey grognards coming out in full force...
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:48 PM   #15
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'tis simply that Graeme had the match engine turned off when he generated the stats as he was in a hurry (debug only option for testing purposes obviously which uses a stripped down match engine in order to get through seasons as fast as possible to test out long term stability of competitions etc.) .... wish he hadn't for obvious reasons (such as this being the fourth times I've mentioned it today ) ... but no stress basically, obviously with the 'real' match engine working things give out better results - the demo will be available shortly which should suitable reassure you ...
and for that he gets his pic on the front page of the site? favorite website is windowsupdate.microsoft.com???

Is the mag available anywhere stateside without ordering? (i.e. gamestop, EB, etc...)
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:09 AM   #16
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Is the mag available anywhere stateside without ordering? (i.e. gamestop, EB, etc...)
I'm afraid not at the moment - when our games are more established in America I'd love to see it on sale at retail there in a similar way to how it is in the UK ...
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