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Old 05-22-2004, 05:46 PM   #1
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Cool Cannes Palme d'Or goes to Michael Moore "Fahrenheit 911"

Guess, americans will find another reason to hate us.

Did I mention the jury was presided by an American ? Quentin Tarantino !
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Old 05-22-2004, 06:15 PM   #2
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Congratulations to Michael Moore. I'm sure all the bush worshipers are going to throw a hissy fit. It should be funny.
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:11 PM   #3
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First Jerry Lewis and now Michael Moore...the French should be very proud of themselves! And not to mention those hilarious mimes they have...
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:41 PM   #4
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Maybe Michael Wilson will have a shot at it next year.
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:57 PM   #5
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What a SURPRISE!!!

BTW, saw a pic of Moore in Cannes...somebody needs to tell that lard a$$ about low carb diets.
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:10 PM   #6
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It seems not even microphones are safe from him now:



If you look at him now and back during Roger & Me, it appears Moore is mimicing Jerry Lewis in more ways than one since hitting the scene in France.
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:12 PM   #7
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Awww, people are grumpy that he won an award so they have to stoop to personal attacks.
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:14 PM   #8
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That's so "un-Moore-like" of us
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:24 PM   #9
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There seriously wasnt some gay teen shooting up a school type crap playing this year that could win?

Thus far I think I've seen 3 Golden Palm winners(Pulp Fiction, Apocylpse now, and Sex lies and Videotape).

Its just odd that this would win over a fictional story, subject matter irrelevant.
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:33 PM   #10
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I'm sure all the bush worshipers are going to throw a hissy fit.

I think suspensions need to start being handed out - on both sides of the aisle - for people who make inflammatory statements like this. They serve no purpose, really, and they're annoying as fuck to read.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:22 PM   #11
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Congratulations to Michael Moore. I'm sure all the bush worshipers are going to throw a hissy fit. It should be funny.
But, what will they say when he takes home the Oscar next year?

Should be an acceptance speach worth hearing
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:25 PM   #12
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I think suspensions need to start being handed out - on both sides of the aisle - for people who make inflammatory statements like this. They serve no purpose, really, and they're annoying as fuck to read.

They are very bitter people right now and will be more bitter for the next 5 years at least. Get used to it.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:31 PM   #13
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They are very bitter people right now and will be more bitter for the next 5 years at least. Get used to it.

And the four years after that.
And the four years after that.
And ...

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Old 05-23-2004, 12:56 AM   #14
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I think suspensions need to start being handed out - on both sides of the aisle - for people who make inflammatory statements like this. They serve no purpose, really, and they're annoying as fuck to read.

like this isnt a hissy fit?
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:25 AM   #15
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I saw bowling for Columbine, it wasn't as funny as some people told me it was, but it was very good. It was basically an attack on Charlton Heston and the NRA, I guess a indirect attack on gun enthusists.
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:01 AM   #16
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And the four years after that.
And the four years after that.
And ...


Yup, that will always happen.

But I saw something quite heartening this past week. I saw Clinton speak here at KU and he was introduced by Bob Dole. Both got raucous applause and both seemed to genuinely respect each other and consider the other a friend. From what I read, Clinton gets $75K-$200K per speaking appearance but did not ask a fee for this engagement (other than expenses). That's a lot of cash even for a guy who just signed a $12M book deal and to see a gesture like that to speak in a lecture series hosted by the man you faced in a presidential election.. well, that says something about both men. During their speeches, they kidded each other in a playful way and Clinton's message about political civility and divisiveness could have taken many negative undertones but was always positive, never going after the current administration or any previous ones (well, one of his anecdotes mentioned how he had a tough go with Congress but it was in passing).

FYI: They mentioned the total cost was $30K and more than half of that was incurred when they changed venues for some sound system issues and security (from the 1900 seat Lied Center to packing more than 12000 into a non-air conditioned Allen Fieldhouse on a 90 degree day) but they had a lot of disgruntled people when they announced only 350 tickets to students out of the 1900 and had thousands in line and 55K calls to the switchboard when tickets went on sale.

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Old 05-23-2004, 03:06 AM   #17
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Yup, that will always happen.

But I saw something quite heartening this past week. I saw Clinton speak here at KU and he was introduced by Bob Dole. Both got raucous applause and both seemed to genuinely respect each other and consider the other a friend. From what I read, Clinton gets $75K-$200K per speaking appearance but did not ask a fee for this engagement (other than expenses). That's a lot of cash even for a guy who just signed a $12M book deal and to see a gesture like that to speak in a lecture series hosted by the man you faced in a presidential election.. well, that says something about both men. During their speeches, they kidded each other in a playful way and Clinton's message about political civility and divisiveness could have taken many negative undertones but was always positive, never going after the current administration or any previous ones (well, one of his anecdotes mentioned how he had a tough go with Congress but it was in passing).

FYI: They mentioned the total cost was $30K and more than half of that was incurred when they changed venues for some sound system issues and security (from the 1900 seat Lied Center to packing more than 12000 into a non-air conditioned Allen Fieldhouse on a 90 degree day) but they had a lot of disgruntled people when they announced only 350 tickets to students out of the 1900 and had thousands in line and 55K calls to the switchboard when tickets went on sale.

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Hey thanks for the info. That is very encouranging. I wish more news focused at least on the positive side of things once in a while. I knew nothing about this. Now only if we can get the current Senate and House to be civil.
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:55 AM   #18
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I saw bowling for Columbine, it wasn't as funny as some people told me it was, but it was very good. It was basically an attack on Charlton Heston and the NRA, I guess a indirect attack on gun enthusists.

I'm not sure "Bowling for columbine was meant to be funny Sharpieman...
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:19 AM   #19
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:21 AM   #20
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But I saw something quite heartening this past week. I saw Clinton speak here at KU and he was introduced by Bob Dole. Both got raucous applause and both seemed to genuinely respect each other and consider the other a friend.
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I think it is genuine, and has been for a long time. I remember even back during the 1996 campaign, Dole commented that he personally liked Clinton in response to a question, and during Clinton's second term, he sent Dole as his official emissary on a diplomatic mission to either Bosnia or Kosovo (I don't remember which).
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:52 AM   #21
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I saw bowling for Columbine, it wasn't as funny as some people told me it was, but it was very good. It was basically an attack on Charlton Heston and the NRA, I guess a indirect attack on gun enthusists.

Although it may look that way at first glance, Bowling for Columbine isn't an attack on gun enthusiasts. It asks why americans kill each other (with guns) so much more than other countries... even those countries which also have many guns, violent histories, alienated teenagers, and violence in videogames and movies.

Similarly, we should probably reserve judgment about Farenheit 9/11 until we get the chance to see it.
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Old 05-23-2004, 11:46 AM   #22
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Although it may look that way at first glance, Bowling for Columbine isn't an attack on gun enthusiasts. It asks why americans kill each other (with guns) so much more than other countries... even those countries which also have many guns, violent histories, alienated teenagers, and violence in videogames and movies.

Similarly, we should probably reserve judgment about Farenheit 9/11 until we get the chance to see it.

Sorry, I only watch RIGHT-wing propoganda.
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Old 05-23-2004, 11:50 AM   #23
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Michael Moore is the 'Oliver Stone" of the documentary. Distortions, half-truths and outright fabrications. But if it floats-your-boat and makes you happy, go for it. Just don't expect anyone else to take you seriously on any other 'facts' you might come up with. Many sources deal with all the above mentioned falsehoods, so don't expect me to itemize them. No point.
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Old 05-23-2004, 11:52 AM   #24
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Yup, that will always happen.

But I saw something quite heartening this past week. I saw Clinton speak here at KU and he was introduced by Bob Dole. Both got raucous applause and both seemed to genuinely respect each other and consider the other a friend. From what I read, Clinton gets $75K-$200K per speaking appearance but did not ask a fee for this engagement (other than expenses). That's a lot of cash even for a guy who just signed a $12M book deal and to see a gesture like that to speak in a lecture series hosted by the man you faced in a presidential election.. well, that says something about both men. During their speeches, they kidded each other in a playful way and Clinton's message about political civility and divisiveness could have taken many negative undertones but was always positive, never going after the current administration or any previous ones (well, one of his anecdotes mentioned how he had a tough go with Congress but it was in passing).

FYI: They mentioned the total cost was $30K and more than half of that was incurred when they changed venues for some sound system issues and security (from the 1900 seat Lied Center to packing more than 12000 into a non-air conditioned Allen Fieldhouse on a 90 degree day) but they had a lot of disgruntled people when they announced only 350 tickets to students out of the 1900 and had thousands in line and 55K calls to the switchboard when tickets went on sale.

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It's easy to backslap when nothing is on the line. I don't remember the Clinton or Dole campaigns as being particularly positive when it counted.

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Old 05-23-2004, 11:53 AM   #25
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Sorry, I only watch RIGHT-wing propoganda.

No propoganda is necessary since it's obviously the right way.
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Old 06-03-2004, 12:03 AM   #26
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The trailer for the movie is now up for those who want to watch it.

hxxp://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/
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Old 06-03-2004, 08:00 AM   #27
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What Bubba said.

Look, even though I lean a shade to the right, I love a good liberal arguement. I was for the war in Iraq, but I've read some darned good articles from people on the other side and I can respect their viewpoints.

I can't respect a jerk with a specific agenda to destroy one party and not giving a damn if he has to lie to do it. I'm waiting for the documentary on Clinton that talks about how he let Osama walk when the Sudan had him on a silver platter for us.

Moore won't make that, because he isn't trying to find hypocricy everywhere, he's trying to find it in one party. Fine. . . have at it Michael. It doesn't piss me off and I don't throw hissy fits about it. I just choose not to watch his garbage. Likewise, I watch very little Fox news and I never listen to Rush.

There are PLENTY of people from the right and left who can craft an arguement without resorting to half truths. There are plenty of people who give the opposing side credit when it is due. I'll spend my time watching and reading those people.
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Old 06-03-2004, 08:10 AM   #28
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If it weren't for his subject matter, Moore would be just another below-average film-maker.

I don't understand what the big deal is.
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