cartman's Euro 2004 U-Pick-em contest

[cartman]

Hello all,

Here is the place to get your picks in for how you think Euro 2004 is going to end up. There will be two sections.

In the first section, you will pick how you think the pools with end up, and how many points each team will earn in their pool. You will get one point for each correct finishing placement, and the "points earned" will be used as a tie breaker.

In the second section, you predict how the knockout rounds will happen. You will get two points for each Quarterfinal winner predicted, 4 points for the Semifinal winners, and 8 points for picking the Euro 2004 champion. Also put the score you predict for each game, as this will also be used as a tie breaker.

Here are the pools, and after will be the schedule for the knockout games. Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck!

Group A

Greece
Portugal
Russia
Spain

Group B

Croatia
England
France
Switzerland

Group C

Bulgaria
Denmark
Italy
Sweden

Group D

Czech Republic
Germany
Netherlands
Latvia

Quarterfinals

Winner Group A vs. 2nd place Group B
Winner Group B vs. 2nd place Group A
Winner Group C vs. 2nd place Group D
Winner Group D vs. 2nd place Group C

Semifinals

Winner of Quarterfinal Game 1 vs. Winner of Quarterfinal Game 3
Winner of Quarterfinal Game 2 vs. Winner of Quarterfinal Game 4

Final

Winners of the Semifinals meet

[cartman]

Dola,

Here's my predictions:

Group A

Portugal 7
Spain 7
Russia 3
Greece 0

Group B

France 7
England 7
Croatia 1
Switzerland 1

Group C

Italy 9
Sweden 6
Denmark 3
Bulgaria 0

Group D

Germany 7
Netherlands 5
Czech Republic 4
Latvia 0

Quarterfinals

Portugal 2 vs. 2 England (England wins 4-3 on PK)
France 3 vs. 2 Spain
Italy 2 vs. 1 Netherlands
Germany 3 vs. 1 Sweden

Semifinals

England 0 vs. 2 Italy
France 3 vs. 1 Germany

Final

Italy 0 vs. 0 France (France wins 4-2 on PK)

[MIJB#19]

My prediction for this game.

Group A
Portugal 7
Spain 5
Russia 3
Greece 1

Group B
France 7
Croatia 4
England 4
Switzerland 1

Group C
Sweden 5
Italy 5
Denmark 3
Bulgaria 1

Group D
Czech Republic 7
Netherlands 6
Germany 2
Latvia 1

Quarterfinals
Portugal 2 vs. 0 Croatia
France 3 vs. 2 Spain
Sweden 0 vs. 2 Netherlands
Czech Republic 3 vs. 1 Italy

Semifinals
Portugal 1 vs. 1 Netherlands (Netherlands win on PK 3-1)
France 0 vs. 1 Czech Republic

Final
Netherlands 1 vs. 0 Czech Republic

[3ric]

Group A
Spain 9
Portugal 6
Russia 1
Greece 1

Group B
France 7
England 6
Croatia 3
Switzerland 1

Group C
Italy 7
Sweden 7
Denmark 3
Bulgaria 0

Group D
Netherlands 7
Czech Republic 7
Germany 1
Latvia 1

Quarterfinals
Spain 0-1 England
France 2-1 Portugal
Italy 1-0 Czech Republic
Netherlands 2-0 Sweden

Semifinals
England 2-1 Italy
France 1-0 Netherlands

Final
England 1-1 France (France wins in extra time)

[Kosta]

GROUP A
Portugal 7
Spain 5
Greece 2
Russia 1

GROUP B
France 9
England 4
Croatia 2
Switz 1

GROUP C
Italy 7
Sweden 5
Denmark 2
Bulgaria 1

GROUP D
Czech R 7
Netherlands 5
Germany 4
Latvia 0

QUARTERS
PORTUGAL - England 2-0
FRANCE - Spain 1-1 (France on pk's)
ITALY 1 - Netherlands 0 (aet)
CZECH R - Sweden 2-1

SEMIS
Portugal - ITALY 1-2
FRANCE - Czech R 2-0

FINAL
FRANCE - Italy 1-0

[MIJB#19]

Hey Kosta!
I know this is offtopic, but did you ever get my email inviting you to the 2003/2004 CL tipping?
Good to see you pop up!

[Katon]

Group A
Spain 9
Portugal 6
Russia 1
Greece 1

Group B
France 9
England 4
Croatia 2
Switzerland 1

Group C
Italy 9
Sweden 4
Denmark 4
Bulgaria 0

Group D
Netherlands 7
Czech Republic 7
Germany 3
Latvia 0

Spain 2-1 England
France 1-0 Portugal
Italy 1-1 Czech Rep (4-5 on penalties)
Netherlands 2-0 Sweden

Spain 1-0 Czech Rep
France 1-2 Netherlands

Spain 3-2 Netherlands

[Kosta]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Hey Kosta!
I know this is offtopic, but did you ever get my email inviting you to the 2003/2004 CL tipping?
Good to see you pop up!

No I didn't my Dutch friend. The email I may have listed here might be an old one. I don't pop in too often anymore. Looking forward to Euro 2004 though. Not sure it will be a good tournament for your Oranje men though.

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by Kosta

No I didn't my Dutch friend. The email I may have listed here might be an old one. I don't pop in too often anymore. Looking forward to Euro 2004 though. Not sure it will be a good tournament for your Oranje men though.

I think it was an "old" emailadress I had from back to World Cup 2002 when you sent me a spreadsheet. (For Euro 2004, I created my own with complete calculations for ordering in groups and filling out the knockout stages).
Anyway, your tradition has been continued and Cartman tossed in this equivalent.

Concidering Oranje, I'm sceptical because of the injury proneness of left winger(s) Robben, playmaker Van der Vaart seems exhausted, midfielders Sneijder and Van Bommel seem to miss the experience to do well in such a bug tournament.
Good thing Van Nistelrooij is fit in time, Stam is rocky as always and the Cocu/Davids tandem did miracles for Barcelona the past half season.

Enough off topic stuff for now, hope to see ya around in the Euro2004 threads the coming weeks.

[bhlloy]

Group A

Portugal 7
Spain 5
Russia 2
Greece 1

Group B

France 9
England 4
Croatia 4
Switzerland 0


Group C

Italy 9
Sweden 4
Denmark 2
Bulgaria 1


Group D

Czech Rep 6
Germany 5
Holland 4
Latvia 1


Quarterfinals

Portugal 1 - 1 England (England win on pens)
France 3 - 2 Spain
Italy 1 - 0 Germany
Czech Rep 2 - 2 Sweden (Sweden win on pens)

Semifinals

England 1 - 2 Italy
France 2 - 0 Sweden

Final

Italy 1 - 1 France (Italy win on pens)

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by 3ric

Group B
France 7
England 6
Croatia 5
Switzerland 1

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Group B
France 9
England 5
Croatia 4
Switzerland 0

I don't want to spoil the fun for you, but these are mathematically impossible, unless the game England-Croatia is played twice...

Or these are strategic "errors" and I am ignoring the fact that one can put in impossible combinations of points to better the odds in the tiebreakers.

[atatange1]

Group A

Spain 7
Portugal 5
Greece 2
Russia 1


Group B

France 7
England 5
Switzerland 4
Croatia 0


Group C

Italy 9
Sweden 6
Denmark 1
Bulgaria 1


Group D

Netherlands 7
Czech Republic 5
Germany 3
Latvia 1

Quarterfinals

Spain 1 vs. 2 England
France 3 vs. 1 Portugal
Italy 2 vs. 0 Czech
Netherlands 4 vs. 1 Sweden

Semifinals

England 1 vs. 3 Italy
France 0 vs. 1 Netherlands

Final

Italy 2 vs. 1 Netherlands

[Alf]

4 out 7 predicting France to win => might be a good sign for us (here's hoping Zidane is motivated enough to play...)

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

I don't want to spoil the fun for you, but these are mathematically impossible, unless the game England-Croatia is played twice...

Or these are strategic "errors" and I am ignoring the fact that one can put in impossible combinations of points to better the odds in the tiebreakers.

No... I f*cked up

[cartman]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Or these are strategic "errors" and I am ignoring the fact that one can put in impossible combinations of points to better the odds in the tiebreakers.

They can't really help in the tiebreaker, since accuracy is what determines the tiebreaker.

[BreizhManu]

Group A

Portugal 7 pts
Spain 5 Pts
Russia 4 pts
Greece 0 pts

Group B

France 7 pts
England 4 pts
Switzerland 2 pts
Croatia 1 pts

Group C

Italy 7 pts
Sweden 5 pts
Denmark 4 pts
Bulgaria 0 pts

Group D

Czech Republic 9 pts
Germany 4 pts
Netherlands 4 pts
Latvia 0 pts

Quarterfinals

Portugal 3 England 1
France 2 Spain 1
Italy 1 Germany 0
Czech Republic 2 Sweden 0

Semifinals

Italy 1 Portugal 1 (Italy wins on PK)
France 2 Czech Republic 1 (after extra time)

Final

Italy 1 France 1 (Italy wins on PK)

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by BreizhManu

Group B
France 7 pts
England 4 pts
Switzerland 2 pts
Croatia 1 pts

And yet another impossible prediction for Group B.

To help you all out, here are all possible combinations in a group of four:
9 6 3 0
9 6 1 1
9 4 4 0
9 4 3 1
9 4 2 1
9 3 3 3
9 2 2 2
7 7 3 0
7 7 1 1
7 6 4 0
7 6 3 1
7 6 2 1
7 5 4 0
7 5 3 1
7 5 2 1
7 4 4 1
7 4 3 3
7 4 3 2
7 4 3 1
7 4 2 2
7 3 2 2
6 6 6 0
6 6 4 1
6 6 3 3
6 5 4 1
6 5 2 2
6 4 4 3
6 4 4 2
5 5 5 0
5 5 4 1
5 5 3 2
5 5 3 1
5 5 2 2
5 4 4 3
5 4 4 2
5 4 3 2
5 3 3 2
4 4 4 4
4 4 4 3
3 3 3 3

[SirFozzie]

Group A
Spain 9
Portugal 4
Russia 4
Greece 0

Group B
France 7
England 5
Croatia 4
Switzerland 0

Group C
Italy 9
Bulgaria 3 (advances on GD)
Denmark 3
Sweden 3

Group D
Germany 6 (wins group on GD)
Netherlands 6
Czech Republic 3
Latvia 3

Quarterfinals
Spain vs. England (Spain 2-1)
France vs. Portugal (Portugal 2-0)
Italy vs. Netherlands (Italy, 3-1)
Germany vs. Bulgaria (Germany, 1-0)

Semifinals

Spain vs. Italy (Italy, 1-1, PK's)
Portugal vs. Germany (Germany, 1-0)

Final
Italy vs Germany (Italy 2-1 AET)

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Group D
Germany 6 (wins group on GD)
Netherlands 6
Czech Republic 3
Latvia 3

That starts a big question for me, what are the tiebreakers at the tournament?
As of now I figured it will be head-to-head amongst tied teams, then goal difference in head-to-head games, then goals scored in head-to-head games, then goal difference in all games and lastly goals scored in all games.
In the qualifying stages it all came down on head-to-head rather then goal difference, but I can't find the info for the finals tournament yet. So I guess it will be similair in the finals, but I can't find confirmation yet...

[fantastic flying froggies]

Group A
Espana 7
Russia 5
Portugal 4
Greece 0

Group B
England 9
France 6
Switzerland 3
Croatia 0

Group C
Sweden 7
Italy 5
Bulgaria 3
Danmark 1

Group D
Netherlands 7 (finish 1st, same goal difference but more goals scored)
Germany 7
Czech 3
Latvia 0

Quarterfinals :
Espana - France : 1-2
Sweden - Germany : 0-1
England - Russia : 2-0
Nederland - Italy : 2-3 (extra-time)

Semifinals
France - Germany : 1-2
England - Italy : 0-1

Final
Germany - Italy : 0-2


(Special thanks to MIJB for his euro spreadsheet which made this a lot )easier...

[MIJB#19]

A sweet little bump for our moving-from-europe-back-to-the-states-fofcer Cartman.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

A sweet little bump for our moving-from-europe-back-to-the-states-fofcer Cartman.

Thanks! Or should I say Dank U

I'm in the airport in Denver right now waiting for my connecting flight, and they have WiFi here in the terminal. Downloading 400 spam emails right now.

Looks like we have a decent start to the turn out. People have until next week, before the first games start, to get their submissions in.

[rufusjonz]

Group A

Portugal 6
Spain 5
Russia 2
Greece 2

Group B

France 7
England 6
Croatia 2
Switzerland 1

Group C

Italy 9
Sweden 3
Denmark 3
Bulgaria 3

Group D

Netherlands 7
Germany 5
Czech Republic 4
Latvia 0

Quarterfinals

Portugal 2 vs. 1 England
France 2 vs. 0 Spain
Italy 1 vs. 0 Germany
Netherlands 3 vs. 2 Sweden

Semifinals

Portugal 1 vs. 2 Italy
Netherlands 2 vs. 1 France

Final

Italy 1 vs. 0 Netherlands

[MIJB#19]

The tournament is starting in, what, five days?

And obviously there is no need to advertise my spreadsheet at we-dot-win-dot-com...

[Darkiller]

ZIZOU ZIZOU ZIZOU !!!


GO FRANCE !!!!!!!! Bring home another Championship !!!!!

[moriarty]

Group A
Spain 7
Portugal 4
Greece 3
Russia 2

Group B
France 9
England 4 (2nd)
Sweeden 4 (edit - Swiss)
Croatia 0

Group C
Sweeden 9
Italy 4 (2nd)
Denmark 4
Bulgaria 0

Group D
Czech 7
Germany 5
Netherdlands 4
Latvia 0

QF 1
Spain 3
England 1

QF 2
France 3
Portugal 2

QF 3
Sweeden 1
Germany 0

QF 4
Czech 2
Italy 1

Semi 1
Spain 1
Swe 0

Semi 2
Fra 2
Czech 1

Finals:
France 3
Spain 1

[Katon]

Originally Posted by moriarty

Group B
France 9
England 4 (2nd)
Sweeden 4
Croatia 0

Group C
Sweeden 9
Italy 4 (2nd)
Denmark 4
Bulgaria 0

Busy people, those Swedes.

[moriarty]

Originally Posted by Katon

Busy people, those Swedes.

Swiss ... Swedes ... what do you expect from a dumb american?

[MIJB#19]

Tournament will start pretty soon now.

[Chief Rum]

My predictions:

Group A

Spain 6
Portugal 4
Greece 4
Russia 3

Group B

France 9
England 4
Switzerland 3
Croatia 1

Group C

Italy 7
Sweden 5
Denmark 2
Bulgaria 1

Group D

Germany 5
Netherlands 4
Czech Republic 4
Latvia 3

Quarterfinals

England 3, Spain 2
France 2, Portugal 2 (France PK, 4-3)
Italy 1, Netherland 0
Germany 2, Sweden 0

Semifinals

England 2, Italy 2 (England PK, 5-4)
France 1, Germany 0

Final

England 3, France 2 (goal scored in extra time, everyone in England has heart attack, resulting loss of ally to U.S. causes imbalance of power, war and fall of Western Civilization, we'll all be named Sujuragappa or Chen by Christmas)

...but I am only going to predict the extra time goal for the purposes of this contest.

CR

[cartman]

Games start in a couple of hours, so last chance to get your picks in. Kickoff of the first game is 5pm GMT, so that's noon on the East Coast, 9am on the West Coast.

[vtbub]

Portugal 1:2 Greece

[cartman]

Originally Posted by vtbub

Portugal 1:2 Greece

Hey Ron,

Too bad you didn't submit a full entry, you would have won!

[B & B]

cartman, while its nice to give credit, vtbub was simply reposting.

The first game of the EURO 2004 was Portugal Greece and that was the result of the match. 1-2 back on June 12.

[cartman]

D'oh, that's right, now I remember...

Back to my point tallying cave. Results posted shortly.