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06-26-2004, 09:30 PM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: usually sunny SoCal
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training playmaking & 3-4-3
just curious...
if you play with 2 true wings in a 3-5-2/4-5-1, why couldn't you play the 3-4-3 instead? |
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06-26-2004, 09:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Syracuse, NY
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I don't see why you couldn't, I've been thinking about switching to the same thing shortly. I think some people use the wings for 1/2 trainees but I don't see too many negatives to running a 3-4-3.
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06-26-2004, 10:37 PM
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: PA
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The problem is that you lose a half trainee...
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06-26-2004, 10:42 PM
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Syracuse, NY
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well thats not a big deal to me and it doesn't sound like kinkenst even has 1/2 trainees
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06-26-2004, 11:21 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Florida
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its a big deal to me.... if you do it right it can become a nice source of extra income for the team.
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06-27-2004, 01:40 PM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: usually sunny SoCal
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well...
i still play 3-5-2 with two trainees during the friendly season... i'm just trying to think outside the box here... maybe i need to get a young wing/pm kind of player to play there. |
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06-27-2004, 01:49 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Florida
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i grabbed two 19 year old passable wingers with solid PM and decent stamina at the begining of last season for about 350k total. And at the end of this season they will both be formidable PM. I play them "towards the middle" so i probally shouldn't even have paid the extra for passable wing.
Im not gonna sell them for a awhile, but if i did sell them when they both hit formidable this season, that would be an extra couple million bucks in 2 seasons. Not bad....
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06-27-2004, 02:30 PM
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Syracuse, NY
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I'm going to begin building up my 3-4-3 exp so I can use it in league games as I can spare a 1/2 trainee spot. Being only a year old, my team isn't to the point where I can have 3 stud trainees and 4 stud 1/2 trainees. |
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06-27-2004, 02:36 PM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: usually sunny SoCal
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actually, chubby, it'd be 6 full trainees and 4 1/2 trainees... however, i've also given thought to FM's method to train PM: I think he has/had 3 "starters" who always got full training and 5 guys who rotated through the 5 midfield slots in his friendlies. So, every 5 weeks, he had 3 guys with 5 weeks and 5 guys with 4 weeks.... I've considered that also... I forgot about looking for a passable winger/pm guy who's a trainee, which is odd as i have a 32yo passable wing who's gone to solid pm during his time with the club... Can't see the forest for the trees... Part of my 3-4-3 question has to do with just having an oddball plan to throw out there occasionally.. And it's either 4-4-2, 3-4-3 or a 4-5-1... or the ugly 2-5-3... anywho.. i'm jjust thinking about these things... |
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06-27-2004, 02:39 PM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: usually sunny SoCal
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dola, or perhaps he has 8 guys he rotates through the 8 slots which would give 8 guys seven full weeks of training... |
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06-27-2004, 03:10 PM
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Hattrick Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada
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Tim, the way I did it was a bit more complicated, as I don't like making things easy
  I had this posted in my dynasty, but I see that the picture server that was hosting the screenshots went under... I just resent them to my webspace... Look at this, then I'll explain what I did...  Here's the negative version for my friend Tell  This is what I use to track the playmaking training of my trainees. Rotations happen over a group of 4 weeks, since I have 7 main trainees for 6 full trainee spot, and a half trainee spot. Week 5 to 12 of season 22 are a perfect example of what I'm usually trying to achieve... Riser and Kvarning are getting 100% training all the time, since I want to keep them forever once I switch to winger training. This leaves me 4 full spots every week for 5 trainees... At first I wanted to make it 3 full trainees and 4 rotating on the last 3 spots, but I was undecided between who of Gortemaker and Thanh-Tuan would get the 3rd spot. Gortemaker would have higher playmaking when I'll switch, but Thanh-Tuan is a solid passer... Because of that I decided that they would share a rotation spot... Then come the last 3 that are really on rotation, Brigg, Hansson, and Zaltzman. When a player plays in the half-trainee spot, his cell for the week is crossed out in red. As you can see, one of the last three is always crossed out, at least one week out of four. The fourth week of a group of four, it's either Gortemaker or Thanh Tuan that is on the wing, alternating them over a span of 8 weeks. That pattern got changed a little around the end because Brigg got injured so everybody at that time was getting 100% training, but you get the idea... Had the plan worked out perfectly, this is the training everybody would have received:
That way, instead of having 6 guys pop at about the same time, and have a winger trainee pop in double the time, I get 2 that pops, and the rest pop about 1 week later... That's how I did it, maybe many other people do it that way too, I don't know... So anybody confused? no, good... Class dismissed  FM
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06-27-2004, 03:29 PM
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H.S. Freshman Team
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Saint Louis
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It matters how your training. I am a PM trainer who is using the 3-4-3 and 3-5-2. I wasn't really using the last winger slot to give training so I figured I might as well play a tactic that I will ACTUALLY use in league play (I never used the 4-5-1 last season, and I honestly can't imagine using it this season either). I'm not as far as Frogman in training for instance, but if you want to watch it in action watch my next league game. I'm not sure how I feel about it; but a series mate did predict my team to finish in last and this one to finish in 5th.
Oh, I also found the 3-4-3 highly fustrating to play against last season. I am going up against another 3-4-3 today . It's going to be FUN to watch!
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06-27-2004, 08:59 PM
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n00b
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hattrick reality via Atlanta
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Funny this thread was brought up. I was running a 3-4-3 tonight against my series #1 in an attempt to punch thru the mid of his AOW. Forgot to set my third forward to play 'forward' and he instead played wing. Geez. I too am trying to build up my 3-4-3 abilities so that I can use them as a third formation alternative.
I figure the 4-4-2 is my defensive formation.. 3-5-2 my standard and 3-4-3 my offensive... |
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