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Old 07-12-2004, 08:05 PM   #1
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Thumbs up OT: I've Got It (NCAA 2005)

Playing right now ... anyone else get it today?

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Old 07-12-2004, 08:20 PM   #2
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my friend and I went and got it, i can't get it till it comes in blockbuster on friday tho, i sold some games there to buy it and their shipment comes in then. We played one game, Ohio State vs. Florida State and he won with Florida State at home 14-10. I was up 10-0 at half, but he sacked my QB a few times and after that it was over. He was missing all my WR's, etc.
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Old 07-12-2004, 08:35 PM   #3
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Quick impressions (after 2 games with Rutgers - the first a 17-0 win against UConn and the second a 21-14 win over Kansas State...see note on this below)...

Let me first state that I only played a few games of last year's version (I'd say under 10), as my roommates and I were completely into Madden, so it's not like I'm playing the 2005 version after dominating on 2004. Quite the contrary, actually...

I started out on Varsity level, which really was too easy, as evidenced by my easy victory over UConn where Orlovsky couldn't hit the side of a barn and Terry Caulley was basically a non-factor, along with my domination over #14-ranked Kansas State (and Sproles) until I bumped it up to All-American in the 2nd half. Once I did that, it was much harder...they outscored me over that period, but I did hold on for the victory.

The running game is really good. Your blockers actually seek out people to hit...they don't just stand around or chip off the nearest guy. On sweeps and such they will lead the way and dish out some punishment. Again, playing with Rutgers and having a fast RB in Justise Hairston and an equally quick and powerful FB in Brian Leonard, allowed me to really succeed running the ball (and to any RU fans out there--Leonard is a BEAST).

I had some trouble passing the ball, as it is very tough to throw accurately when going backwards or on the run...but at the same time, this feels right, and thats a good thing. Once I got my feet set more often, I was throwing strikes.

Defense has been tough, as I started giving up the big pass play once I bumped up the difficulty. This is to be expected though, as my CBs are both new starters and will take some seasoning. Safeties seem to break well on the ball when floating back in zone coverage. I did stop the run well, as my front 7 is a strong suit, but again, we'll see once I play more on the higher difficulty.

Kicking game is not complex at all...there shouldn't be a learning curve here. My very first kickoff I got max distance and very good accuracy. Something to note...maybe it was just where I played both my games (Rutgers Stadium), but I found it pretty hard to actually see the uprights on field goal attempts. Not a big deal, as once you get coordinated you'll be fine kicking it, but it freaked me out on my first try and I thought someone had already ripped down the goalpost before the game was over .

Minor thing that pissed me off...they have Brian Leonard as a junior when he's actually a redshirt sophomore . Okay, not a big deal until I start my dynasty, but you can't edit a player's class, so it looks like I'll copy down his ratings, create a new player and then delete the old Leonard.

One thing that I am missing that was present in last year's Madden (I doubt it was in last year's NCAA) is the ability to sub players on the fly. I believe this was accomplished by pressing the circle button when selecting a formation, and it allowed you to cycle through potential changes to the personnel in your formation, such as RB Swap, WR flip, Slot switch, TE switch, etc. This is something I would use frequently to put my FB Leonard in the HB slot if I wanted him to run more than a dive or blast, as that is how the great majority of FB plays are designed.

A minor inconvienence, but I guess I can just make him the RB in a specific formation.

Will post more impressions as I play more...

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Old 07-12-2004, 09:25 PM   #4
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I got it but it keeps locking up, I think it is my refurbished XBOX though.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:28 PM   #5
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I just read about last year's version locking up on the X-Box, please tell me at least one of you guys who has it, is playing smoothly on an X-Box?
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:30 PM   #6
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I just read about last year's version locking up on the X-Box, please tell me at least one of you guys who has it, is playing smoothly on an X-Box?

I had last year's version, and it never locked up.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:31 PM   #7
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Glad to hear it. My X-Box is almost brand new, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:42 PM   #8
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My XBox is basically brand new as well. This year I plan on getting for the XBox and I hope it doesn't have any problems.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:44 PM   #9
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I had it last year for XBOX and had zero problems, but my XBOX died about a month ago....today I finally bought a refurbished one because it was almost the same price as fixing my old one. This kind of pisses me off. Its going back tomorrow.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:44 PM   #10
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I just got it. Will be playing soon.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:08 PM   #11
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Bastards. I saw the thread, grabbed NBA Ballers off the shelf, and went down to EB to trade it in. I got the last stinkin' Xbox copy they had. I'll be on Live if anybody wants to play.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:13 PM   #12
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Bastards. I saw the thread, grabbed NBA Ballers off the shelf, and went down to EB to trade it in. I got the last stinkin' Xbox copy they had. I'll be on Live if anybody wants to play.

Funny, I traded in NBA Ballers when I reserved my NCAA 2005. Will be picking up NCAA tomorrow evening when I get off work. I'll be on Live tomorrow if anyone wants to play.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:19 PM   #13
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That's frightening, Pumpy. GET OUT OF MY HEAD.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:39 PM   #14
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Well i got to my gamestop.. just before they closed.. they said they was staying open till midnight or so.. so we could wait, well come 10:58 they showed up.. 62 ps2 copies and.. wait for it... 4 xbox copies

i was #4 in line for xbox.. but thats pretty damn shitty
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:39 PM   #15
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Funny, I traded in NBA Ballers when I reserved my NCAA 2005. Will be picking up NCAA tomorrow evening when I get off work. I'll be on Live tomorrow if anyone wants to play.

If I don't get to play you tomorrow night, I'll be sure to challenge you soon after
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:44 PM   #16
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How is the dynasty mode? I played a couple of games but my friend went home and took his game with him. So far I'm 0-2, lol. USC is unstoppable.
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:44 PM   #17
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Well i got to my gamestop.. just before they closed.. they said they was staying open till midnight or so.. so we could wait, well come 10:58 they showed up.. 62 ps2 copies and.. wait for it... 4 xbox copies

i was #4 in line for xbox.. but thats pretty damn shitty

Rag, I didn't ask, but I suspect that either:

a) My EBGames was the same way, or

b) the Xbox version has been flying off the shelves locally due to Xbox Live support.

I saw a ton of PS2 versions, but they only had the one Xbox version left when I got there.

I have to think that your store was an isolated thing, because as huge as this is for MS, there's no reason not to flood the market with copies so everybody can buy it (and a Live kit for those who don't already have it), y'know?
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:47 PM   #18
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Sack.. i was there when they opened the boxes.. they literally only got 4 xbox copies.. and the guy said they only had 4 per store.. that sounds kinda shifty to me.. considering they had 15 people waiting for it.. and probably 20+ more angry people to come tomorrow
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Old 07-12-2004, 11:49 PM   #19
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Rag - that definitely sounds shifty. I just don't see any way that any company would order only 4 copies per store of any EA game, let alone their biggest football title. The only thing I can figure is perhaps it's a ploy to boost future preorders?
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:26 AM   #20
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I'm going to be very annoyed if my X-Box version of this game isn't there tomorrow to fill my pre-order because my EB games only got 4 copies
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:29 AM   #21
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Outta town, but guess it will be waiting for me when I get home
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:14 AM   #22
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Is it just me, or this game simming much slower than old versions?
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:15 AM   #23
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I got mine today, and am currently simming through the first 4 years of dynasty mode to get players with names.

Played IU vs. Cornell and won something like 27-7 on default settings. Me likes!
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:18 AM   #24
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Is it just me, or this game simming much slower than old versions?


It's pretty damn slow. I just started it simming season 4, so the boring part is just about over.
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:48 AM   #25
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Some early thoughts.

1) Passes down the sideline have a disturbing tendency to be a good six inches out of bounds.

2) Do receivers ever catch bullet passes? Doesn't seem like it.

3) What's with the whole "four guys standing around the spot where the ball is headed" when it's barely been released from the QB's hand?
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:13 AM   #26
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I'm getting serious framerate issues with the xbox version.. it seems the graphic stat overlays cause some hearky jerky action.. honestly considering returning the xbox version..
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:14 AM   #27
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I'm getting serious framerate issues with the xbox version.. it seems the graphic stat overlays cause some hearky jerky action.. honestly considering returning the xbox version..

Im getting it too...usually when i pass the ball.

Other than that, I like the slower gameplay...
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Old 07-13-2004, 04:44 AM   #28
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I'm getting serious framerate issues with the xbox version.. it seems the graphic stat overlays cause some hearky jerky action.. honestly considering returning the xbox version..

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Old 07-13-2004, 06:18 AM   #29
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PS2 version for me: so far, so good.

take that XBox.

And PS.. the guy at my Gamestop said they've had over 300 pre-orders already for Madden.
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Old 07-13-2004, 07:52 AM   #30
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Is it true they have sold 500k just off preorders? That is amazing if it is true because if you times that by 50 that is ......$25,000,000.....
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Old 07-13-2004, 07:56 AM   #31
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Anyone suffering slow-downs on the PS2 version? I've read in this thread about issues with the XBOX version but I'm wondering if the same thing applies on the PS2.

Thanks!
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Old 07-13-2004, 07:58 AM   #32
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Anyone suffering slow-downs on the PS2 version? I've read in this thread about issues with the XBOX version but I'm wondering if the same thing applies on the PS2.

Thanks!

There is slow down but it is not as serious as the X-Box I would assume because X-Box users are reporting glitchs and what not.... But in my opinion the slow down helps the running game...
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:35 AM   #33
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Has anyone tried a CPU vs CPU game or a "don't move the joystick" game?
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:46 AM   #34
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One thing that I am missing that was present in last year's Madden (I doubt it was in last year's NCAA) is the ability to sub players on the fly. I believe this was accomplished by pressing the circle button when selecting a formation, and it allowed you to cycle through potential changes to the personnel in your formation, such as RB Swap, WR flip, Slot switch, TE switch, etc. This is something I would use frequently to put my FB Leonard in the HB slot if I wanted him to run more than a dive or blast, as that is how the great majority of FB plays are designed.

This is one change I was really hoping they would make, it alone would of made it worth the money for me. I like to use 2 RB's, and I love the ability to quick sub in Madden.

On a side note, I went into the local Blockbuster yesterday and the had about 60 copies of the game on the back counter (pretty even mix of PS2, and X-Box). When I asked about buying one the Manager told me they were the rentals, and they wouldn't get the retail until the Tuesday shipment. Not sure I'm buying that, but I pre-bought it for $39.99 with 2 trade ins. By the way one of those trade ins I got for $4.99 at CC on last Thursday, and got $21 in credit towards NCAA
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Old 07-13-2004, 09:48 AM   #35
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Im getting it too...usually when i pass the ball.

Other than that, I like the slower gameplay...

I'm getting some jerky graphics as well on the PS2. It is also very slow simming.

Other than that, I'm very pleased. Recruiting is improved, and I love the rotating schedules.
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:10 AM   #36
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My favorite things so far:

- Box scores are finally here!!
- Rotating conference schedules
- The crowd gets HYPE
- Expanded rosters
- Recruiting athletes (non position) and changing players' positions
- Tipped passes
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:51 AM   #37
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I didn't notice that slowdown was a big problem on the PS2 version so far. Like I said yesterday, simming is really slow. It took me hours to sim 5 seasons to get rid of the nameless players.

I also wish you could create a team that already exists in the game and still have the announcers recognize the names. I like to add the Ivy League to the MAC, but I get tired of the generic stadiums for teams like Cornell. Plus, their unis are boring.
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:58 AM   #38
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BTW, if you have Gameshark, there is already a named roster out there.
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:59 AM   #39
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My favorite things so far:

- Box scores are finally here!!
- Rotating conference schedules
- The crowd gets HYPE
- Expanded rosters
- Recruiting athletes (non position) and changing players' positions
- Tipped passes

What is "the crowd gets HYPE"?
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:59 AM   #40
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great game lots of bugs
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:06 PM   #41
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great game lots of bugs

And this adds value to the thread how? What kind of bugs? Are they show-stoppers?
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:24 PM   #42
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What is "the crowd gets HYPE"?


He just means that the crowd really gets into the game. The home field advantage thing where your controller vibrates and the screen shakes when you are the visiting team and the home team is on defense. If you are at a school where the fans are into the game, that is.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:29 PM   #43
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In my two games i played I didnt notice ANY slowdown on the PS2 version. I actually said to my friend it seems smoother than any other version I've played. The only bugs I noticed was on missed field goals the mascots would bang their heads against the goal post and fall down, too bad their head wasn't even coming close to hitting anything, and also a tackler made a tackle and magically tilted back upright to taunt, instead of actually standing up. The missed field goal thing happened twice, while the player warping happened once, both were after the plays were done so they don't really matter.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:30 PM   #44
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I know it isn't a big leap graphically, but it is a little prettier than last year's game. The helmets are better, the player models are better, the weather effects are better. I'm pretty pleased so far.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:47 PM   #45
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As far as bugs go, there is considerable slowdown in the menus. In 2004 there was slowdown when it had to load the ESPN covers, and that is still there as well. But now there just seems to be more slowdown in general when viewing stats, or flipping/sorting through a lot of the screens.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:53 PM   #46
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Ok, bug likes ghosting after a play or slow menus I can handle. My concern was easy money plays, scoring, stats issues or other things that would drastically hamper gameplay.

I'm due to get mine tomorrow, so I'm thankful for all your updates, guys. Kodos, thanks for explaining "hype" - I assumed he meant that, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

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Old 07-13-2004, 12:56 PM   #47
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:04 PM   #48
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Pre-ordering is for suckers, I got mine about an hour ago
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:11 PM   #49
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Pre-ordering is for suckers, I got mine about an hour ago

I pre-orderers got the game last night, how would that make us the suckers?
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:12 PM   #50
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