Doom 3 out today

pjstp20 · 08-03-2004, 02:26 AM

Yeah, I'm gonna run to the stores when they open and try to snag a copy. Lot's of places (CompUSA, Best Buy, Wal-Mart) are saying it will be released on 8/4. Don't know what thats about, hopefully thats for internet orders.

Alf · 08-03-2004, 04:57 AM

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 08:51 AM

Got my copy last night. The game runs suprisingly well on some older hardware.

AMD 2200+
1 GB RAM
128 MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200

It is very playable at 800x600 and it looks great. Very scary when playing with all the lights off. My apartment neighbors must be wondering what was going on last night.

Ksyrup · 08-03-2004, 09:14 AM

"Doom 3," the long-awaited next installment in the seminal action series, officially becomes available at midnight Tuesday, raising the bar for what to expect from future video games."

OK, does this mean last night, or tonight? That might explain the August 4 date.

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 09:24 AM

According to Best Buy, it should be in most stores today: http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage...&type=category

According to ID it doesn't officially come out intil the 5th, but they also say stores may have it earlier. http://www.idsoftware.com/

Bonegavel · 08-03-2004, 09:27 AM

Can't wait to pick this up.

router help, where did you get your copy? Pre-order?

Bonegavel · 08-03-2004, 09:30 AM

dola,

just called local EBX and they are getting it in around 2pm EST here, but the guy said that the local best buy had it now. I know what i'm doing for lunch.

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 09:34 AM

I had a friend who works at gamestop get me a copy. He said they would be selling them today, but that he thought all his copies would be taken by pre-orders.

sachmo71 · 08-03-2004, 09:40 AM

So, did they ruin it?

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 09:47 AM

So far I think it is great. After a little while you'll recognize patterns as to when monsters will jump out at you, and sometimes it can be a little annoying trying to hunt down a PDA that has a PIN number stored in it, but these are minor complaints. I haven't played that much yet, but so far I'd say they did a good job.

I'm very impressed at how great it looks and how smooth it plays. I've been reading for a couple years now how demanding this game would be on hardware, but it seems to scale very well.

hukarez · 08-03-2004, 09:48 AM

Folks still play at 800x600? I'd imagine 1024 would be the standard by now.

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hukarez

Folks still play at 800x600? I'd imagine 1024 would be the standard by now.

I can play at 1024 if nothing is going on. As soon as I open a door and a monster jumps out everything gets choppy.

hukarez · 08-03-2004, 10:01 AM

Hm. I might just be able to run this. Of course, I'll probably wait until next week or so to pick this up - if it's still in stock and what not.

Calis · 08-03-2004, 10:36 AM

It runs fine for me at Medium detail at 1024x768 although it gets choppy if there's numerous bad guys on the screen at once. I'm just running a 1.4 Ghz with a Radeon 9700...so it definitely runs on older hardware.

It looks fantastic, beautiful game.

It's not like the old Doom's though at all really, which has been known for quite a while. Not a run and gun game.

It's nothing special gameplay-wise. I'm not a fan of FPS's in generals, and this isn't a game that's going to change my mind.

I'm a little miffed that we have a colony on Mars but can't manage to have some night vision goggles lying around, or make a gun with a flashlight on it....ughh, seems like a rather cheap way to add tension.

Ksyrup · 08-03-2004, 10:47 AM

I have to admit, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to piracy. Looking for a review of Doom 3, I found the following. I mean, not only do they have a site, but they review pirated software!

Doom 3 leaked over p2p networks

ISO can't believe it

By Tamlin Magee: Monday 02 August 2004, 10:50

HIGHLY ANTICIPATED first-person eye candy blast-'em-up Doom 3 has already been released by piracy groups over the internet.

According to an ISO-piracy news site, theisonews.com, the game is available for download over various p2p networks, and gives details on how to install the cracked game. A contact of ours has informed us that a couple of DirectConnect – which is a filesharing program with a rather elitist following – hubs are sharing the game for download.

A reviewer at theisonews.com reckons the game more than lives up to the hype, rating it a 10 out of 10 on pretty much all counts. Could the review be a hoax? Possibly, but he's supplied screenshots to back himself up.

I doubt retailers will have to worry too hard about losing out on Doom 3 sales – everyone's going crazy for this one, rabid fans desperately trying to get their pasty hands on a copy. The pirated release arrived just before the official copy is set to go on sale.

Update: The reviewer on ISOnews has made some nasty claims about the game, and is quoted on the forums as saying: "Guys, I officially disown this firstlook. I've never done that before, but I do admit when I'm wrong, and I am wrong this time. The first couple hours were much more than fun the last 5, and I'm bored to tears now. All the shadow effects in the world can't make up for what is essentially 1991 "run into room, kill spawned monsters, find key, open door" gameplay." He goes on to say that he'd have his review deleted if he could.

rkmsuf · 08-03-2004, 11:01 AM

doomed?

hukarez · 08-03-2004, 11:24 AM

Now out of extreme curiousity - are there any multiplayer components with this?

EDIT: I tried out the official website...but didn't find any kind of substance whatsoever. Not to mention, the flash site thing is a bit annoying for me here at work, where bandwidth is compromised with a few programs we're uploading.

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 11:29 AM

There is deathmatch that is desinged for small groups of around 4 players although I think servers can add more if they want.

No Co-op

Bonegavel · 08-03-2004, 11:59 AM

Just picked up my copy at my local Best Buy. $58!!!

Regardless of what you think of single player game that comes with it, you will need a copy to play all the mods that are sure to come soon that will make you forget about the single player component.

rkmsuf · 08-03-2004, 12:01 PM

58 bucks is cooky talk.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-03-2004, 12:07 PM

Man. There were few things better than the "Army of Darkness" mod for Doom and Doom II. Those were the days. Coming home after class, turning up "Rage Against the Machine" or, perhaps, the "Demon Knight Soundtrack," blasting away at all sorts accompanied by "Army of Darnkess" sounds bites.

Good times... Good times...

sabotai · 08-03-2004, 03:49 PM

I remember listening to Skinny Puppy and Leatherstrip as I played Doom and Doom II. To this day I can't listen to Retrospective without seeing Doom II in my mind.

RainRaven · 08-03-2004, 03:54 PM

would it be playable on a 1.6 GHZ, 768 MB RAM and GE Force 4600. Besides the higher price tag I would hate to buy it and find out it's unplayable on my machine.

Franklinnoble · 08-03-2004, 04:00 PM

58 bucks? Forget it.

Raiders Army · 08-03-2004, 04:09 PM

If id were really trying to recapture the frenzy they had with Doom, they they should offer a demo level. Does anyone know of any demo coming out?

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainRaven

would it be playable on a 1.6 GHZ, 768 MB RAM and GE Force 4600. Besides the higher price tag I would hate to buy it and find out it's unplayable on my machine.

According to this page at HardOCP you should be able to run the game with no problem: http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQ0LDU=

Router Help · 08-03-2004, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

If id were really trying to recapture the frenzy they had with Doom, they they should offer a demo level. Does anyone know of any demo coming out?

id did say that they were working on a demo.

Franklinnoble · 08-03-2004, 04:15 PM

If the god-mode cheat code doesn't work, I'm not interested.

skrath · 08-04-2004, 04:15 AM

God mode cheat works. Bring up the console with ctrl-alt-~, and type in 'god'. Not too hard.

Also, if it's TOO dark, try jacking up the gamma a bit with 'r_gamma 1.3' (or whatever you like). Works a little better. There's loads of tweaks out there, and with the new 4.9b Catalyst drivers for ATI, I can run it very well.

Bonegavel · 08-04-2004, 08:03 AM

as for "can i run it on my system" --- it supposedly auto detects your rig and runs the game appropriately (meaning, it will turn off as many features as it takes to get an acceptable frame rate).

As for id games, ever since quake II (dec 9th, 1997 IIRC) I've purchased id games on day 1. Id is the only company for which I do this, with the only exception being Half Life 2 if/when it ever comes out.

Ksyrup · 08-04-2004, 08:04 AM

None of the stores even got this in yesterday here. Today or tomorrow is what they're telling people.

pjstp20 · 08-04-2004, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

None of the stores even got this in yesterday here. Today or tomorrow is what they're telling people.

I learned that the hard way. Rather than pick up a phone and call, I decided to go to CompUSA, Best Buy and both EB's only to be told later today. Then later that day I decided to do the same thing only to be told tomorrow.

Today I called, and CompUSA and Best Buy are still waiting but EB has it in. I can't believe I finally got my mitts on it.

pjstp20 · 08-04-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonegavel

as for "can i run it on my system" --- it supposedly auto detects your rig and runs the game appropriately (meaning, it will turn off as many features as it takes to get an acceptable frame rate).

As for id games, ever since quake II (dec 9th, 1997 IIRC) I've purchased id games on day 1. Id is the only company for which I do this, with the only exception being Half Life 2 if/when it ever comes out.

I heard that this function erorrs on the side of being way too conservative. i.e) medium settings for the top video cards

Bonegavel · 08-04-2004, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjstp20

I heard that this function erorrs on the side of being way too conservative. i.e) medium settings for the top video cards

It is easy enough to go in and change any settings you want. I don't blame them for being conservative because most dopes have 65 things running in the background and are loaded with spyware so the more conservative settings will be good for them. Running the game by default at the edge of a system's capabilities isn't practical for the average joe.

hukarez · 08-04-2004, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skrath

God mode cheat works. Bring up the console with ctrl-alt-~, and type in 'god'. Not too hard.

Also, if it's TOO dark, try jacking up the gamma a bit with 'r_gamma 1.3' (or whatever you like). Works a little better. There's loads of tweaks out there, and with the new 4.9b Catalyst drivers for ATI, I can run it very well.

Eh? 4.9b Catalyst drivers? I thought 4.7 was the only ones out. In any case, I'm running Omega 4.7 right now...not too shabby for me, at least. Running the game with AA off, everything else on...I don't seem to mind it much.

pjstpl - you're right about the conservative detection bit. I went ahead and followed some Tweak guide I found out there, and set my specs to 1024x768, high detail. It's smooth most of the time.

Ksyrup · 08-04-2004, 11:46 AM

I just picked mine up from CompUSA. Best Buy still hadn't gotten it and had no clue when they would get it, as they expected to already have it.

Calis · 08-04-2004, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hukarez

Eh? 4.9b Catalyst drivers? I thought 4.7 was the only ones out. In any case, I'm running Omega 4.7 right now...not too shabby for me, at least. Running the game with AA off, everything else on...I don't seem to mind it much.

pjstpl - you're right about the conservative detection bit. I went ahead and followed some Tweak guide I found out there, and set my specs to 1024x768, high detail. It's smooth most of the time.

ATI released a beta of the 4.9's to boost Doom 3 performance.

Haven't tried 'em yet, but getting ready to install...haven't heard anything bad about them yet, they seem to help.

hukarez · 08-04-2004, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calis

ATI released a beta of the 4.9's to boost Doom 3 performance.

Haven't tried 'em yet, but getting ready to install...haven't heard anything bad about them yet, they seem to help.

Got a link to the page? Can't seem to find it anywhere on ATI's website - just the official 4.7s and what not.

pjstp20 · 08-04-2004, 07:52 PM

Try rage3d.com. They have everything for ATI cards there.

Dutch · 08-04-2004, 08:02 PM

I'm kind of surprised they pushed the price up. The only people to buy for that much are the die-hard fans and fanatical FPS people. The price will drop in about 2 months. I can wait. I'm sure I'll impulse buy it one day in November while cruising around Best Buy with nothing to do.

Calis · 08-04-2004, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hukarez

Got a link to the page? Can't seem to find it anywhere on ATI's website - just the official 4.7s and what not.

4.9 Betas

pjstp20 · 08-04-2004, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

I'm kind of surprised they pushed the price up. The only people to buy for that much are the die-hard fans and fanatical FPS people. The price will drop in about 2 months. I can wait. I'm sure I'll impulse buy it one day in November while cruising around Best Buy with nothing to do.

It's 5 dollars more than most new releases.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 08-04-2004, 11:24 PM

I wa sin Best Buy today and though about buying it but decided against the purchase because of the 55.00 $ price.

Bonegavel · 08-05-2004, 11:25 AM

Started the game last night and I must say it is worth the money, but of course YMMV.

You must be in possesion of decent equipment to fully appreciate it for one reason: Real Time Lighting. The way they have it so that lights go out and you must choose between using your flashlight or a weapon adds immensely to the experience. It is also recommended that you seal your room off so no light can enter and you use/invest in a good set of headphones with the sound cranked up.

The ambient sounds are awesome. You hear skittering footsteps all around you and the rooms are claustrophobic enough to add to the feel. Shit pops out at you from every direction and, needless to say, the Doom 3 Engine is second to none. The cut scenes are done in-game with no need for cgi work. Stunning.

I see now why Carmack waited to redo the Doom series and waited for technology to catch up. You can only get this experience with tech availble now. Walking into a room, having the lights suddenly cut out, hearing dragging footsteps off to your left, and then switching on your narrow beam flashlight only to catch partial glimpses of a pack of hell-zombies is worth the price of admission.

Ksyrup · 08-05-2004, 11:29 AM

I agree. The game "experience" is worth more than the game itself. I love how the voices of conversations you can overhear change in yourears as you move. Turn left, you'll hear them in your right ear, and vice versa.

Messing around last night for about an hour or so, I was only able to get up to the point of finding the missing scientist. I'm looking forward to getting back into it, as the game appears to really pick up from that point.

Bonegavel · 08-05-2004, 11:42 AM

Some opinions I've seen on it are ragging that it is the old "find key card" "unlock door" blah blah. Yeah it is, but the atmosphere is incredible. I spend half my time whipping around to investigate a noise.

Also, this is the first FPS game that I've ever truly taken my time. Other games (even half life) I was just blasting through without much care. Doom3 has me cautiously entering rooms. Checking each corner. Taking a deep breath before clicking an unlock door pad. I have even taken the time to read each PDA email and listen to each audio clip. It all adds to the experience.

Like I said, the ultimate way to play it is late night, room sealed off, no t.v. or distractions, headphones cranked up.

Wait until you get to the martianbuddy part. Good stuff.

Ksyrup · 08-05-2004, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonegavel

Doom3 has me cautiously entering rooms. Checking each corner. Taking a deep breath before clicking an unlock door pad. I have even taken the time to read each PDA email and listen to each audio clip. It all adds to the experience.

Same here. I'm finding the F5 button to be the most useful feature. Especially when contrasted with GTA Vice City, where you have to go to one specific place to save your game. That gets old quickly. I don't have hours and hours to throw away on wasted game play.

pjstp20 · 08-05-2004, 11:48 AM

Good review Bonegavel, my thoughts exactly.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 08-05-2004, 01:05 PM

Hmmm....tthose reviews might have me running to best buys today to get it but I am worried about my comp not being good enough to fully enjoy the game.
I have a p4 1.8 ghz 512 mb sdram and a g force fx card .

08-03-2004, 04:57 AM	#3
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	woot __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-03-2004, 09:14 AM	#5
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	"Doom 3," the long-awaited next installment in the seminal action series, officially becomes available at midnight Tuesday, raising the bar for what to expect from future video games." OK, does this mean last night, or tonight? That might explain the August 4 date. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-03-2004, 09:48 AM	#12
hukarez College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chula Vista, CA	Folks still play at 800x600? I'd imagine 1024 would be the standard by now. __________________ ...what we have here is a man who looks like Tarzan, but fights like Jane! My VG collection \| Xbox 360 Gamertag: ManThol \| PS3 Network ID: hukarez Doce Pares International - San Diego Council Filipino Martial Arts Digest tweet tweet twitter

08-03-2004, 10:01 AM	#14
hukarez College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chula Vista, CA	Hm. I might just be able to run this. Of course, I'll probably wait until next week or so to pick this up - if it's still in stock and what not. __________________ ...what we have here is a man who looks like Tarzan, but fights like Jane! My VG collection \| Xbox 360 Gamertag: ManThol \| PS3 Network ID: hukarez Doce Pares International - San Diego Council Filipino Martial Arts Digest tweet tweet twitter

08-03-2004, 10:47 AM	#16
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I have to admit, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to piracy. Looking for a review of Doom 3, I found the following. I mean, not only do they have a site, but they review pirated software! Doom 3 leaked over p2p networks ISO can't believe it By Tamlin Magee: Monday 02 August 2004, 10:50 HIGHLY ANTICIPATED first-person eye candy blast-'em-up Doom 3 has already been released by piracy groups over the internet. According to an ISO-piracy news site, theisonews.com, the game is available for download over various p2p networks, and gives details on how to install the cracked game. A contact of ours has informed us that a couple of DirectConnect – which is a filesharing program with a rather elitist following – hubs are sharing the game for download. A reviewer at theisonews.com reckons the game more than lives up to the hype, rating it a 10 out of 10 on pretty much all counts. Could the review be a hoax? Possibly, but he's supplied screenshots to back himself up. I doubt retailers will have to worry too hard about losing out on Doom 3 sales – everyone's going crazy for this one, rabid fans desperately trying to get their pasty hands on a copy. The pirated release arrived just before the official copy is set to go on sale. Update: The reviewer on ISOnews has made some nasty claims about the game, and is quoted on the forums as saying: "Guys, I officially disown this firstlook. I've never done that before, but I do admit when I'm wrong, and I am wrong this time. The first couple hours were much more than fun the last 5, and I'm bored to tears now. All the shadow effects in the world can't make up for what is essentially 1991 "run into room, kill spawned monsters, find key, open door" gameplay." He goes on to say that he'd have his review deleted if he could. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 08-03-2004 at 10:47 AM.

08-03-2004, 02:26 AM	#2
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Yeah, I'm gonna run to the stores when they open and try to snag a copy. Lot's of places (CompUSA, Best Buy, Wal-Mart) are saying it will be released on 8/4. Don't know what thats about, hopefully thats for internet orders.

08-03-2004, 08:51 AM	#4
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	Got my copy last night. The game runs suprisingly well on some older hardware. AMD 2200+ 1 GB RAM 128 MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200 It is very playable at 800x600 and it looks great. Very scary when playing with all the lights off. My apartment neighbors must be wondering what was going on last night.

08-03-2004, 09:24 AM	#6
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	According to Best Buy, it should be in most stores today: http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage...&type=category According to ID it doesn't officially come out intil the 5th, but they also say stores may have it earlier. http://www.idsoftware.com/

08-03-2004, 09:27 AM	#7
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Can't wait to pick this up. router help, where did you get your copy? Pre-order?

08-03-2004, 09:30 AM	#8
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	dola, just called local EBX and they are getting it in around 2pm EST here, but the guy said that the local best buy had it now. I know what i'm doing for lunch.

08-03-2004, 09:34 AM	#9
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	I had a friend who works at gamestop get me a copy. He said they would be selling them today, but that he thought all his copies would be taken by pre-orders.

08-03-2004, 09:40 AM	#10
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	So, did they ruin it?

08-03-2004, 09:47 AM	#11
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	So far I think it is great. After a little while you'll recognize patterns as to when monsters will jump out at you, and sometimes it can be a little annoying trying to hunt down a PDA that has a PIN number stored in it, but these are minor complaints. I haven't played that much yet, but so far I'd say they did a good job. I'm very impressed at how great it looks and how smooth it plays. I've been reading for a couple years now how demanding this game would be on hardware, but it seems to scale very well.

08-03-2004, 10:36 AM	#15
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	It runs fine for me at Medium detail at 1024x768 although it gets choppy if there's numerous bad guys on the screen at once. I'm just running a 1.4 Ghz with a Radeon 9700...so it definitely runs on older hardware. It looks fantastic, beautiful game. It's not like the old Doom's though at all really, which has been known for quite a while. Not a run and gun game. It's nothing special gameplay-wise. I'm not a fan of FPS's in generals, and this isn't a game that's going to change my mind. I'm a little miffed that we have a colony on Mars but can't manage to have some night vision goggles lying around, or make a gun with a flashlight on it....ughh, seems like a rather cheap way to add tension.

08-03-2004, 11:01 AM	#17
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	doomed? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

08-03-2004, 11:24 AM	#18
hukarez College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chula Vista, CA	Now out of extreme curiousity - are there any multiplayer components with this? EDIT: I tried out the official website...but didn't find any kind of substance whatsoever. Not to mention, the flash site thing is a bit annoying for me here at work, where bandwidth is compromised with a few programs we're uploading. __________________ ...what we have here is a man who looks like Tarzan, but fights like Jane! My VG collection \| Xbox 360 Gamertag: ManThol \| PS3 Network ID: hukarez Doce Pares International - San Diego Council Filipino Martial Arts Digest tweet tweet twitter Last edited by hukarez : 08-03-2004 at 11:25 AM.

08-03-2004, 11:29 AM	#19
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	There is deathmatch that is desinged for small groups of around 4 players although I think servers can add more if they want. No Co-op

08-03-2004, 11:59 AM	#20
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Just picked up my copy at my local Best Buy. $58!!! Regardless of what you think of single player game that comes with it, you will need a copy to play all the mods that are sure to come soon that will make you forget about the single player component.

08-03-2004, 12:01 PM	#21
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	58 bucks is cooky talk. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

08-03-2004, 12:07 PM	#22
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Man. There were few things better than the "Army of Darkness" mod for Doom and Doom II. Those were the days. Coming home after class, turning up "Rage Against the Machine" or, perhaps, the "Demon Knight Soundtrack," blasting away at all sorts accompanied by "Army of Darnkess" sounds bites. Good times... Good times...

08-03-2004, 03:49 PM	#23
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I remember listening to Skinny Puppy and Leatherstrip as I played Doom and Doom II. To this day I can't listen to Retrospective without seeing Doom II in my mind.

08-03-2004, 03:54 PM	#24
RainRaven High School JV Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Baltimore, Maryland	would it be playable on a 1.6 GHZ, 768 MB RAM and GE Force 4600. Besides the higher price tag I would hate to buy it and find out it's unplayable on my machine. __________________ "It can't rain all the time"-The Crow

08-03-2004, 04:00 PM	#25
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	58 bucks? Forget it.

08-03-2004, 04:09 PM	#26
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	If id were really trying to recapture the frenzy they had with Doom, they they should offer a demo level. Does anyone know of any demo coming out?

08-03-2004, 04:15 PM	#29
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	If the god-mode cheat code doesn't work, I'm not interested.

08-04-2004, 04:15 AM	#30
skrath Mascot Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, Australia	God mode cheat works. Bring up the console with ctrl-alt-~, and type in 'god'. Not too hard. Also, if it's TOO dark, try jacking up the gamma a bit with 'r_gamma 1.3' (or whatever you like). Works a little better. There's loads of tweaks out there, and with the new 4.9b Catalyst drivers for ATI, I can run it very well. __________________ JBL, CollegeJBL and EuroJBL Fantasy Basketball Universe: http://jblfl.com Last edited by skrath : 08-04-2004 at 04:16 AM.

08-04-2004, 08:03 AM	#31
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	as for "can i run it on my system" --- it supposedly auto detects your rig and runs the game appropriately (meaning, it will turn off as many features as it takes to get an acceptable frame rate). As for id games, ever since quake II (dec 9th, 1997 IIRC) I've purchased id games on day 1. Id is the only company for which I do this, with the only exception being Half Life 2 if/when it ever comes out.

08-04-2004, 08:04 AM	#32
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	None of the stores even got this in yesterday here. Today or tomorrow is what they're telling people. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-04-2004, 11:46 AM	#37
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I just picked mine up from CompUSA. Best Buy still hadn't gotten it and had no clue when they would get it, as they expected to already have it. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-04-2004, 07:52 PM	#40
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Try rage3d.com. They have everything for ATI cards there.

08-04-2004, 08:02 PM	#41
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I'm kind of surprised they pushed the price up. The only people to buy for that much are the die-hard fans and fanatical FPS people. The price will drop in about 2 months. I can wait. I'm sure I'll impulse buy it one day in November while cruising around Best Buy with nothing to do.

08-04-2004, 11:24 PM	#44
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I wa sin Best Buy today and though about buying it but decided against the purchase because of the 55.00 $ price. __________________ Toujour Pret

08-05-2004, 11:25 AM	#45
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Started the game last night and I must say it is worth the money, but of course YMMV. You must be in possesion of decent equipment to fully appreciate it for one reason: Real Time Lighting. The way they have it so that lights go out and you must choose between using your flashlight or a weapon adds immensely to the experience. It is also recommended that you seal your room off so no light can enter and you use/invest in a good set of headphones with the sound cranked up. The ambient sounds are awesome. You hear skittering footsteps all around you and the rooms are claustrophobic enough to add to the feel. Shit pops out at you from every direction and, needless to say, the Doom 3 Engine is second to none. The cut scenes are done in-game with no need for cgi work. Stunning. I see now why Carmack waited to redo the Doom series and waited for technology to catch up. You can only get this experience with tech availble now. Walking into a room, having the lights suddenly cut out, hearing dragging footsteps off to your left, and then switching on your narrow beam flashlight only to catch partial glimpses of a pack of hell-zombies is worth the price of admission. Last edited by Bonegavel : 08-05-2004 at 11:26 AM.

08-05-2004, 11:29 AM	#46
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I agree. The game "experience" is worth more than the game itself. I love how the voices of conversations you can overhear change in yourears as you move. Turn left, you'll hear them in your right ear, and vice versa. Messing around last night for about an hour or so, I was only able to get up to the point of finding the missing scientist. I'm looking forward to getting back into it, as the game appears to really pick up from that point. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-05-2004, 11:42 AM	#47
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Some opinions I've seen on it are ragging that it is the old "find key card" "unlock door" blah blah. Yeah it is, but the atmosphere is incredible. I spend half my time whipping around to investigate a noise. Also, this is the first FPS game that I've ever truly taken my time. Other games (even half life) I was just blasting through without much care. Doom3 has me cautiously entering rooms. Checking each corner. Taking a deep breath before clicking an unlock door pad. I have even taken the time to read each PDA email and listen to each audio clip. It all adds to the experience. Like I said, the ultimate way to play it is late night, room sealed off, no t.v. or distractions, headphones cranked up. Wait until you get to the martianbuddy part. Good stuff.