Rate my roster

[tucker rocky]

Your 28 players

Troy Cintron
TSI = 21 930 , 19 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities


Stamina: wretched Keeper: magnificent
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: weak

Reuben Montgomery
TSI = 11 760 , 19 years, solid form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities


Stamina: wretched Keeper: formidable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak

Fischer Schraube
TSI = 1 150 , 30 years, passable form
Has excellent experience and poor leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: inadequate

Jean-Pierre Point
TSI = 450 , 31 years, wretched form
Has passable experience and wretched leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: wretched

Alvaro San Emeterio +2
TSI = 290 , 29 years, poor form
Has inadequate experience and wretched leadership abilities [Unpredictable]


Stamina: solid Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: weak

Charlie Huddleston
TSI = 430 , 30 years, passable form
Has passable experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: passable Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor

Joshua Schmitt
TSI = 2 830 , 28 years, passable form
Has inadequate experience and poor leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: wretched
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: passable

Joris de Groot
TSI = 490 , 34 years, solid form
Has outstanding experience and poor leadership abilities [Quick]


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: solid
Winger: inadequate Defending: wretched
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: brilliant

Teodor Pleavã
TSI = 1 270 , 33 years, inadequate form
Has excellent experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: formidable Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: disastrous

Fabian van Bommel
TSI = 1 150 , 23 years, weak form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Abel Tejada
TSI = 2 370 , 26 years, excellent form
Has inadequate experience and weak leadership abilities [Unpredictable]


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: passable Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: solid

Bernhard Pennartz +1
TSI = 560 , 31 years, poor form
Has inadequate experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]


Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: disastrous

Jan Ivarsson
TSI = 120 , 34 years, passable form
Has passable experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

Zhou Xi
TSI = 100 , 36 years, solid form
Has outstanding experience and poor leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: disastrous
Winger: passable Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Fredrik Berntsson
TSI = 2 910 , 23 years, passable form
Has poor experience and disastrous leadership abilities


Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: formidable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

Sepp Amsüss
TSI = 3 650 , 27 years, passable form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities


Stamina: passable Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched

Thomas Laursen
TSI = 3 350 , 29 years, passable form
Has passable experience and wretched leadership abilities [Head]


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: passable Defending: solid
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Tinguaro López
TSI = 1 130 , 30 years, solid form
Has inadequate experience and solid leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: solid
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: solid

Elmer Cloud
TSI = 1 010 , 28 years, solid form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

Dave Baird
TSI = 110 , 33 years, inadequate form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: solid

Erik Eggleston
TSI = 460 , 29 years, passable form
Has inadequate experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: inadequate

Stelios Kambitsis
TSI = 320 , 32 years, inadequate form
Has weak experience and poor leadership abilities


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: excellent

Alberto Fernández
TSI = 120 , 33 years, weak form
Has inadequate experience and wretched leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: disastrous
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: excellent

Van Watt
TSI = 300 , 29 years, inadequate form
Has weak experience and passable leadership abilities [Quick]


Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: disastrous
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: excellent

Lesley Bradshaw
TSI = 830 , 20 years, poor form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Powerful]


Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor

Josh Renner
TSI = 1 010 , 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Karl Ezell
TSI = 270 , 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: passable

Coach
Teodovico Hernandez Alepuz (7674249)
45 years, poor form, healthy
A solid trainer who is fond of attacking
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has formidable experience and weak leadership abilities.

Players in red: injured
Players in green: bruised but playing

1st 2 players are skill that I'm presently training.

[tucker rocky]

I give myself a B-

[Havok]

do you want my honest opinion or do you want me to lie to ya???

(Warning, Havok as a habit of offending people with his honest opinion)

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Havok

do you want my honest opinion or do you want me to lie to ya???

(Warning, Havok as a habit of offending people with his honest opinion)

Go ahead, I need another person's opinion.

Offend? Why would I be offended looking at a PC screen?

[Vikas]

What's this, a roster bragging thread?

[streacer]

You have too many players IMO.

[Havok]

ok... you asked for it

Im judging this by your roster compared to how long you've had your team. And with that in mind..... i'd probally go with a C-, maybe lower. I won't use my team as a comparison since i don't wanna sound like im bragging or anything like that. So i'll use a team with a roster that i know almost as good as my own...... The South Bay Saints! I feel they are perfect for this comparison since they have the worest youth squad ever (yes, even worse then mine) so they're roster isn't bloated by great youth pull sales. The saints are just a well coached and well thought out team, who's roster compared to time played i've give an A.


The Saints have had they're team for 2 1/2 months less then you and they are a much more complete team.

The only postion that you your team is better in is Goalie's. Your magnifcent is about 2 1/2 levels higher then his mid - formidable goalie. Besides that he has you beat pretty badly everywhere else.

Defenders are close.... but if i remember correctly he has a slight edge on ya. Not a big deal here....

Wingers - This is somewhat close also.... but Clark Merriat is the best of the bunch, so he wins wingers aswell.

Forwards - The Saints have you pretty much whipped in this category. His number 2 forward is better then your best forward (formidable/poor) and his top forward is just a straight up badass (Magnifcent/weak with good exp).

Midfielders - This just isn't even close. While the Saints are littered with formfiable-magnificent middies. Your best is only formidable and the rest are sub-par at best.


Hopfully you'll take this more as constructive criticism, then as a knock on you or your team. Im not sure why your team is so far behind teams like the Saints, Misfitz (ME!), Tomahawks, Galesburg, Sidekicks etc.... so its hard for me to help you at all. The main problem i see with alot of teams around here is lack of patience, Everyone gets a trainee to formidable and they get all happy and sell them right away. Thats just not a smart thing to do in my mind. Hang-on to those trainee's until they get alittle higher and sell them for the big bucks. 1 million dollars is useless to me right now, espically since im gonna have to spend at least half that on a good trainee. Then im stuck with 500k and which won't do me a dam bit of good.

So, be patient... sell those trainee's for big bucks and make BIG improvements to your team. My moto is NEVER upgrade a postion by less then 2 levels, 3 levels if possible. I.E. if you wanna upgrade a formidable forward, get at least a brilliant forward to replace him. Anyway i've rambled on long enough.... I'll stop now before i put everyone to sleep with another one of 'Havok's Guide to Hattrick" speeches

Always remember - 'Hattrick is a marathon, not a sprint"

[The Un-Ghosted Chubby]

Originally Posted by Havok

Everyone gets a trainee to formidable and they get all happy and sell them right away. Thats just not a smart thing to do in my mind. Hang-on to those trainee's until they get alittle higher and sell them for the big bucks. 1 million dollars is useless to me right now, espically since im gonna have to spend at least half that on a good trainee. Then im stuck with 500k and which won't do me a dam bit of good.

which is what? outstanding? brilliant? next season I'll be starting to turn my 1st trainees into starters and get new trainees but I'munsure what is the best level to sell trainees at.

[Havok]

it all depends chubby.... age is a factor. if you have a 21 or 22 year old just hit formidable then selling him probally isn't a bad idea. Another factor is what your training.... middies, wingers, forwards, goalies etc.... Im more of a middy expert myself. But every postion is alittle different. In the end, patience is key.... sell off one or 2 here and there but make SURE you buy good trainee's. Not inadequates or anything crappy like that. I like to spend between 300-500k on trainee's. Thats usually a good range, for middy trainer's thats usually a nice 'low to mid solid PM" 17 year old with good stamina and secondary's.

Im in the routine now of selling 1 guy a season (im a middy trainee).... and i make sure the guy that fills in for the guy i just sold is just about has good. What this does for me is helps me improve my team some every year, keeps my trainee's pretty young and doesn't severly hurt my midfield since im only selling 1 starter at a time.

Heres an example... i will be selling a magnificent middy in about 2-3 weeks.... his replacment is already magnificent but doesn't start most of the time because of slightly lower stamina. Also... about week 4-5 next season i'll be selling a WC middy, his replacement with be about brilliant +5 or 6 so i won't lose much midfield. etc... etc...

For other postions i'd say talk to...

Forwards - Panther
Goalies - Mcsweeny
Defenders - The only successful defender trainer i know of his Doug... but he's also the master of youth pulls
Wingers - probally Deacon

[The Un-Ghosted Chubby]

Originally Posted by Havok

it all depends chubby.... age is a factor. if you have a 21 or 22 year old just hit formidable then selling him probally isn't a bad idea. Another factor is what your training.... middies, wingers, forwards, goalies etc.... Im more of a middy expert myself. But every postion is alittle different. In the end, patience is key.... sell off one or 2 here and there but make SURE you buy good trainee's. Not inadequates or anything crappy like that. I like to spend between 300-500k on trainee's. Thats usually a good range, for middy trainer's thats usually a nice 'low to mid solid PM" 17 year old with good stamina and secondary's.

Im in the routine now of selling 1 guy a season (im a middy trainee).... and i make sure the guy that fills in for the guy i just sold is just about has good. What this does for me is helps me improve my team some every year, keeps my trainee's pretty young and doesn't severly hurt my midfield since im only selling 1 starter at a time.

Heres an example... i will be selling a magnificent middy in about 2-3 weeks.... his replacment is already magnificent but doesn't start most of the time because of slightly lower stamina. Also... about week 4-5 next season i'll be selling a WC middy, his replacement with be about brilliant +5 or 6 so i won't lose much midfield. etc... etc...

For other postions i'd say talk to...

Forwards - Panther
Goalies - Mcsweeny
Defenders - The only successful defender trainer i know of his Doug... but he's also the master of youth pulls
Wingers - probally Deacon

I do MF as well and I'm just starting to be able to start them. I sold off one of my originals a month or 2 ago to move a trainee up and bought a new one. Unfortunately, the trainees I've had/have were inads or passables (17) cause that's all I could afford as a new team last year after I got my solid keeper.

I've mapped out my sales for the next 2 seasons (well tried to at least) with 1 guy who will hit formidable at the end of this season (he's 21 now) who will be sold in the offseason, another one who will be sold next year when he pops to outstanding (he'll be 21) and a 3rd guy when he pops to outstanding in season 25 (he'll be 20) at which point my 3 starters will all be oustanding+ and either 19 or 20 so I guess that sounds like what you do.

Us new managers never know when to sell the trainees, I've tried to have 1 a season to be able to upgade other parts each season as it's my goal to promote from Div V at the end of 25 (doubt it will happen but it's a goal )

[finkenst]

Originally Posted by The Un-Ghosted Chubby

I do MF as well and I'm just starting to be able to start them. I sold off one of my originals a month or 2 ago to move a trainee up and bought a new one. Unfortunately, the trainees I've had/have were inads or passables (17) cause that's all I could afford as a new team last year after I got my solid keeper.

Us new managers never know when to sell the trainees, I've tried to have 1 a season to be able to upgade other parts each season as it's my goal to promote from Div V at the end of 25 (doubt it will happen but it's a goal )

Chubby, you bought the same type of trainees i did when i started 8-9 months ago. i've just sold the first three off. They were 18 going 19yo swedes and inad or passable pm. I sold them just after they popped to outstanding(?? formidable+1level) for, on average, 1.5 million. One was 20 when sold in the break, the other two were 21 and sold a couple of weeks ago.

The first one I purchased as a 18yo passable for 21k. Sold at 20yo Outstanding for 1.5mil.

Second one bought as an 18yo passable for 14k. Sold at 21yo Outstanding for 1.4 mil.

And the third bought as an 18yo pasable for 25k. Sold at 21yo Outstanding for 1.6 mil.

All three had a lack of secondaries.

I'm not quite as successful as Havok at getting trainees up to mag+ because i had to start with cheaper trainees. (read: older).

now my trainees/starters are 2x20, 1x19, 1x18, 2x17(inad pm/solid wing), and a 20yo that's way behind and will be sold at next bump to excellent, i believe.

[Havok]

i basically did what Tim did also.... but my trainee's were a little better (not much better)since i wasted my first season training defenders and when i sold off those trainee's and switched to middy's i had about 500k to sepnd on my 6 trainee's. But i never sold off all my best middies at once like he just did. I did about 1 a season like i said earlier.

When you sell that first formidable guy you just wanna run right out and spend every cent on a new forward!!! or defender!!! or goalie!! etc.... But like i said earlier, good trainee's are SOOO important!!! Don't break your bank and spend millions on a new trainee. But 250k -500k will work great!

Good trainee's and patience!!! HT keys to success!! Its tough man... believe me i know. Take a look at my NSI's..... i average between formidable-brilliant ratings (old ratings) everywhere, but my midfield ranges from brilliant-ET!! Im not a very well balanced team at the moment, but im fourth place in the hardest divison in IV (well, it was until 1 team folded). Thankfully my patenice is about to pay off because over the next 12-15 weeks i'll be able to spend around 8 million bucks on my offense and defense, plus my midfield will remain just as strong!

But don't just take my word for it... there are quite a few FOFC'ers who've built very good teams really fast. Froggy's ratings page is great for seeing who the younger/strong teams are, Ask them also.... I always tell the new guys to just ask questions... even if they seem stupied. It the long run it will pay off

[GoldenEagle]

Havok shows no mercy.

[Havok]

^^^^ ahhh there's a pretty successful defender trainer for ya

I new i was forgetting someone ;P

speaking of which.... GE are you selling any Brillaint defenders in a couple weeks??? i need 2

Americans would be nice! but not neccessary

[tucker rocky]

Kickers are contemplating a training switch next season, scoring, wingers, and pm are the choices.

[tucker rocky]

dola,
scoring is most likely, only 2 secondaries to worry about, passing and sp.
pm, defense, and stamina only count for a defensive forward.

[finkenst]

Originally Posted by Havok

i basically did what Tim did also.... but my trainee's were a little better (not much better)since i wasted my first season training defenders and when i sold off those trainee's and switched to middy's i had about 500k to sepnd on my 6 trainee's. But i never sold off all my best middies at once like he just did. I did about 1 a season like i said earlier.

In all fairness, this is true. But as Havok can recall, he and FM helped me get my team setup/started. I started in VI.2, promoted to V.19 in my first full season and promoted to IV.60 in my second. I am now getting demolished week in and week out in IV as my team is semi-balanced but my midfield gets stronger every week (hard to tell that from Hatstats:/ ).

My defenders are all homegrown (original team members (future coach/s) or 19yo YPs) as are the wings, discounting the 2 new 17yo solid wing/inad PM trainees (trying something different) who i think i'll train up to worldclass or higher. My forwards are solid (2 purchased, 1 YP), so I put up ratings in the 120s at normal mode with average TS. My GK is a mid-solid purchased about 1 season ago.

I'd like to survive and hang around in IV this year but behind by four points at the turn and likely to be 4+ points out after tonight's match, i'll be headed back to V in 8 weeks. I'll be looking to improve my forwards and/or defenders with experienced excellent+ defense or formidable+ scoring with some passing.

After I get some very high-level IMs that I can keep around, I'll probably switch to training scoring eventually.

All the best.

~tim
Proud supporter of the Misfitz (havok), Dragons (frogman), Terps (terpkristin), Celtics (breizhmanu), and Swamioms (icy).