OT - Fantasy Football Help

Alf · 08-09-2004, 08:57 AM

In this league, we got to keep up to 3 players. If you keep less you pick an extra round before. Yardage & TD points (usual performance scoring league).

Link to the other rosters : http://football11.myfantasyleague.co...?L=56746&O=105

Franchise	QB	RB	WR	TE	PK	DT
Missouri Muskrats	Green, T	Duckett, T	Smith, S
Battle Ground Beavers	Hasselbeck, M	Alexander, S	Moss, R
Motor City Mayhem	Culpepper, D Leftwich, B	Martin, C McGahee, W Staley, D	Ward, H	Gonzalez, T	Vanderjagt, M
Ultimate Destroyers	Bulger, M Pennington, C Vick, M		Coles, L Johnson, A Robinson, K		Vinatieri, A	Buccaneers, T
Algonquin Flying Aces		Barlow, K Bennett, M Green, A Westbrook, B	Boldin, A
Brigantine Beaches	McNabb, D	Barber, T Portis, C
Bordeaux Vineyards	Manning, P	Faulk, M Johnson, R Jones, T McAllister, D	Horn, J Porter, J Price, P
Warrick Warriors	Brady, T	Davis, S	Harrison, M
FFB Wizards		Dillon, C Lewis, J	Holt, T
Eatyer Veggies		Holmes, P	Owens, T
Erkelenz Unicorns		Henry, T James, E Tomlinson, L
Nottingham Hoods		Brown, C Davis, D Taylor, F

I am the Bordeaux Vineyards there. So far only 1 team has kept 2 guys, most of the others appear to keep 3.

QB Manning, RB McAllister are no brainers for me. The 3rd spot is going to be used by RB Rudi Johnson or RB Marshall Faulk. Or I could be skipping the 2rd spot and retain only 2. Or is even Manning consiedred a top 3 round pick ?

Any advice appreciated here.

edit : I pick second in every round (after the Ultimate Destroyers), so if Ultimate Destroyers keeps 3 and I keep 2, I have the first & 3rd pick in the draft.

QuikSand · 08-09-2004, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

I pick second in every round (after the Ultimate Destroyers), so if Ultimate Destroyers keeps 3 and I keep 2, I have the first & 3rd pick in the draft.

So, assuming this is true... is there any downside to only keeping two players? It sounds like the worst case scenario is that you get back the player you were considering for your third keeper spot.

Alf · 08-09-2004, 09:21 AM

QS : that is the option I am envisonning the most now. The only thing is I don't don't know if I will be the only one keeping 2 (apart from Veggies) or if others will completely dump their roster (it happened in the past).

So far, I have received no offers for Rudi Johnson or Marshall Faulk...

cthomer5000 · 08-09-2004, 09:24 AM

Johnson is coming off the field on 3rd downs... so those are carries/catches that Chris Perry is going to steal from him.

However, he is the obvious goal-line back there... so you probably won't miss out on any TDs.

I'm not nuts about Johnson or Faulk, but they're both seeming "solid" backs to have.

bhlloy · 08-09-2004, 09:26 AM

My advice would be to keep Rudi, he's going into the season with a solid starting job and I'm doubtful Chris Perry is going to take that many carries away. Rudi looked good last year and should be somewhere in the top 10-15 this year which makes him a solid keeper pick.

IMO Faulk is going to drop off this year, it's an opinion I've seen elsewhere a lot but some people are still very high on him. It's a tough call as you can't argue with his production in the past but he's now entering the "old" category for running backs and his team drafted the most ready to start back in the draft. It's a combination that means I won't go near him this year.

What kinds of keeper picks are people making? You may well be able to get a better RB at #1 which would leave you open to take a top WR at #3 if somebody slips up and let's someone go.

Oh, and Manning is definitely a keeper pick. No brainer.

Alf · 08-09-2004, 09:29 AM

Oops forgot to mention : We use a lex lineup where we can play up to 3RB-2WR/TE or 0RB-5WR/TE. And usually people tend to keep RBs in this league (as most of the leagues I have been involved in).

I am leaning on keeping Rudi Johnson so far because of him being younger than Faulk.

Maple Leafs · 08-09-2004, 10:09 AM

Only keeping two (Deuce and Manning) is a perfectly valid strategy. I'm not big on either Faulk or Johnson so I think you're on the right track.

Realistically the only way to know for sure is to make a list of players who won't be kept (including this year's rookies) and see if any of them are better the Rudi.

Alf · 08-10-2004, 05:14 AM

Right now, one team is keeping 2 guys and RB Curtis Martin is available plus my RB Rudi Johnson or RB Marshall Faulk.

I need to cut today, so who would you keep : Johnson, Faulk or none...

Danny · 08-10-2004, 05:26 AM

Can you name some of the top players who will be available in the draft for sure?

Alf · 08-10-2004, 05:33 AM

Most of the teams have cut their guys, I am one of the last. Only RB Martin is on the same level as my guys.

The RB list is here : http://football11.myfantasyleague.co...AY=points&TEAM=*

The WR list is here : http://football11.myfantasyleague.co...AY=points&TEAM=*

And here is the current teams

Franchise	QB	RB	WR
Missouri Muskrats	Green, T	Duckett, T	Smith, S
Battle Ground Beavers	Hasselbeck, M	Alexander, S	Moss, R
Motor City Mayhem	Culpepper, D	McGahee, W	Ward, H
Ultimate Destroyers	Bulger, M Pennington, C Vick, M		Coles, L Johnson, A Robinson, K
Algonquin Flying Aces		Barlow, K Bennett, M Green, A Westbrook, B	Boldin, A
Brigantine Beaches	McNabb, D	Barber, T Portis, C
Bordeaux Vineyards	Manning, P	Faulk, M Johnson, R McAllister, D	Horn, J
Warrick Warriors	Brady, T	Davis, S	Harrison, M
FFB Wizards		Dillon, C Lewis, J	Holt, T
Eatyer Veggies		Holmes, P	Owens, T
Erkelenz Unicorns		Henry, T James, E Tomlinson, L
Nottingham Hoods		Brown, C Davis, D Taylor, F

Note that there are still some teams (me including) needing to drop guys. Maybe Brian Westbrook or Michael Bennett will come on the same level of my guys.

k0ruptr · 08-10-2004, 05:36 AM

I'd say stick with faulk and pray, but if not just go with 2 guys

Alf · 08-10-2004, 05:38 AM

Top RBs available (plus one or two from the above post)

1.	Williams, Ricky MIA RB	219	18	21	21	B	11	13	9	8	11	5	12	23	14	6	16	11	20	Free Agent (Locked)	4
2.	Williams, Moe MIN RB	173	8	21	14	5	20	B	15	7	8	28	11	6	9	4	5	4	8	Free Agent	6
3.	Martin, Curtis NYJ RB	159	4	3	8	11	B	7	8	11	10	6	12	10	12	10	22	10	15	Free Agent (Locked)	5
4.	George, Eddie TEN RB	138	6	4	16	2	4	8	5	21	B	10	7	17	7	5	7	7	12	Free Agent (Locked)	9
5.	Thomas, Anthony CHI RB	137	1	5	B	17	12	9	0	0	23	6	15	6	0	2	14	21	6	Free Agent (Locked)	3
6.	Pittman, Michael TBB RB	132	3	7	22	B	13	9	8	11	14	9	3	7	6	3	3	10	4	Free Agent (Locked)	4
7.	Hambrick, Troy DAL RB	125	6	6	B	18	5	11	14	3	22	3	5	2	0	7	18	3	2	Free Agent	3
8.	Dunn, Warrick ATL RB	123	12	8	2	2	15	3	14	B	7	23	18	19	0	0	0	0	0	Free Agent (Locked)	8
9.	Bettis, Jerome PIT RB	120	1	0	11	0	6	11	B	4	5	5	10	9	12	17	6	18	5	Free Agent	7
10.	Buckhalter, Correll PHI RB	113	0	2	B	8	0	11	1	22	10	2	8	9	3	19	6	0	12	Free Agent (Locked)	3
11.	Hearst, Garrison DEN RB	112	21	9	2	8	8	12	20	6	9	B	7	6	4	0	0	0	0	Free Agent (Locked)	10
12.	Staley, Duce PIT RB	110	5	8	0	1	3	14	B	4	10	9	4	9	8	8	5	17	5	Free Agent (Locked)	7
13.	Garner, Charlie TBB RB	106	19	9	0	B	9	7	10	0	12	0	0	4	3	5	6	9	0	Free Agent (Locked)	4
14.	Bryson, Shawn DET RB	98	4	8	11	7	2	B	2	8	8	3	6	2	13	6	16	1	1	Free Agent	6
15.	Anderson, Richie DAL RB	97	0	2	B	7	11	2	5	3	0	1	8	2	17	7	12	4	16	Free Agent

Top WR available + Horn and probably Boldin and one of Ultimate Destroyers WR

1.	Johnson, Chad CIN WR	187	15	13	7	18	5	B	19	14	7	8	7	28	17	1	15	11	2	Free Agent (Locked)	6
2.	Mason, Derrick TEN WR	168	15	9	4	0	9	35	3	2	B	9	9	4	19	12	13	4	21	Free Agent (Locked)	9
3.	Moss, Santana NYJ WR	168	1	20	1	6	B	7	17	15	31	22	12	7	8	6	4	5	6	Free Agent (Locked)	5
4.	Jackson, Darrell SEA WR	161	5	25	11	B	5	5	3	9	14	4	5	26	22	7	15	0	5	Free Agent (Locked)	4
5.	McCardell, Keenan TBB WR	158	4	11	4	B	22	7	17	6	13	17	11	8	7	8	5	18	0	Free Agent	4
6.	Chambers, Chris MIA WR	156	24	9	11	B	1	1	9	13	11	3	3	4	27	3	8	8	21	Free Agent (Locked)	4
7.	Warrick, Peter CIN WR	130	4	16	8	4	7	B	10	11	11	5	18	2	5	15	12	0	2	Free Agent	6
8.	Toomer, Amani NYG WR	129	9	18	14	B	3	4	5	9	18	3	5	3	17	3	2	6	10	Free Agent (Locked)	4
9.	Boston, David MIA WR	127	2	0	9	B	31	0	1	8	2	14	1	25	14	6	4	0	10	Free Agent (Locked)	4
10.	Bruce, Isaac STL WR	124	12	6	12	5	B	9	12	7	9	1	5	15	12	9	10	0	0	Free Agent (Locked)	5
11.	Walker, Javon GBP WR	119	14	2	4	10	1	2	2	B	16	0	0	12	15	11	2	24	4	Free Agent (Locked)	8
12.	Wayne, Reggie IND WR	119	3	2	26	2	5	13	B	21	2	4	14	3	9	1	11	0	3	Free Agent	7
13.	McCareins, Justin NYJ WR	117	4	1	10	14	B	7	1	0	0	11	8	13	15	7	9	8	2	Free Agent	5
14.	Kennison, Eddie KCC WR	109	6	4	10	2	1	11	4	5	B	17	8	4	1	14	5	8	9	Free Agent (Locked)	9
15.	Smith, Rod DEN WR	108	6	7	0	6	15	15	2	2	5	B	8	14	2	11	4	11	0	Free Agent (Locked)	10

k0ruptr · 08-10-2004, 05:44 AM

chad johnson... interesting

Danny · 08-10-2004, 05:48 AM

Keep Faulk and hope for the best. I dont see anyone available with as much upside.

Alf · 08-10-2004, 10:16 AM

RB Barber, Bennett & WR Boldin have been released too. Another guy (brigantine Beaches has kept 2 only => the barber drop).

Still undecided on what to do.

08-09-2004, 09:29 AM	#6
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Oops forgot to mention : We use a lex lineup where we can play up to 3RB-2WR/TE or 0RB-5WR/TE. And usually people tend to keep RBs in this league (as most of the leagues I have been involved in). I am leaning on keeping Rudi Johnson so far because of him being younger than Faulk. __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-09-2004, 10:09 AM	#7
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Only keeping two (Deuce and Manning) is a perfectly valid strategy. I'm not big on either Faulk or Johnson so I think you're on the right track. Realistically the only way to know for sure is to make a list of players who won't be kept (including this year's rookies) and see if any of them are better the Rudi. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

08-10-2004, 05:14 AM	#8
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	Right now, one team is keeping 2 guys and RB Curtis Martin is available plus my RB Rudi Johnson or RB Marshall Faulk. I need to cut today, so who would you keep : Johnson, Faulk or none... __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-10-2004, 05:36 AM	#11
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	I'd say stick with faulk and pray, but if not just go with 2 guys __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

08-10-2004, 05:44 AM	#13
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	chad johnson... interesting __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

08-09-2004, 09:21 AM	#3
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	QS : that is the option I am envisonning the most now. The only thing is I don't don't know if I will be the only one keeping 2 (apart from Veggies) or if others will completely dump their roster (it happened in the past). So far, I have received no offers for Rudi Johnson or Marshall Faulk... __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

08-09-2004, 09:26 AM	#5
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	My advice would be to keep Rudi, he's going into the season with a solid starting job and I'm doubtful Chris Perry is going to take that many carries away. Rudi looked good last year and should be somewhere in the top 10-15 this year which makes him a solid keeper pick. IMO Faulk is going to drop off this year, it's an opinion I've seen elsewhere a lot but some people are still very high on him. It's a tough call as you can't argue with his production in the past but he's now entering the "old" category for running backs and his team drafted the most ready to start back in the draft. It's a combination that means I won't go near him this year. What kinds of keeper picks are people making? You may well be able to get a better RB at #1 which would leave you open to take a top WR at #3 if somebody slips up and let's someone go. Oh, and Manning is definitely a keeper pick. No brainer.

08-10-2004, 05:26 AM	#9
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	Can you name some of the top players who will be available in the draft for sure?

08-10-2004, 05:48 AM	#14
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	Keep Faulk and hope for the best. I dont see anyone available with as much upside.

08-10-2004, 10:16 AM	#15
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	RB Barber, Bennett & WR Boldin have been released too. Another guy (brigantine Beaches has kept 2 only => the barber drop). Still undecided on what to do. __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

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