Sab's Alternate Realities: an FOF Dynasty

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 04:36 PM

Yes, I'm starting my 513th dynasty...

This is an idea I had a little while ago and have been thinking about it for awhile. This will be a realitively hands-off approach. The gameplanning will be done by the AI, but I'll do everything else (which seems to take as long combined as the game planning.

). But I'm not really going to get invested in my team. Here's the premise.

I start with one FOF set up. I create the game using the real player file. Team Chemistry is turned on, but X-Factor is not. I play through one season of the game. At the beginning of the next season (after the 1st draft) I will save the league to three seperate files (create 3 seperate realities). I then continue on, using the same draft exports for all 3, to see how much they deviate from each other.

To see if any team can create a super power in the same time period in all three realities. To see if the stud QB in one reality can become the next 3 time Super Bowl champion, only to turn into the next super bust in another. To see if a Hall Of Famer from one reality has his career cut drastically short by injury in another. This is...Sabotai's Alternate Realities *cue The Outer Limits music*

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:01 PM

NY Giants Roster Preseason 2003

Code:

  Player                #   Pos   Start HT   WT   Exp  Birthdate   College  
Collins, Kerry          5   QB    QB    6-5  250  9    12/30/1972  Penn State         
Garrett, Jason          17  QB          6-2  198  9    03/28/1966  Princeton          
##Palmer, Jesse         3   QB          6-2  219  3    10/05/1978  Florida            
Dixon, Ernie            18  QB          5-11 207  1    02/03/1982  Arizona State      
##Mitchell, Brian       30  RB          5-10 221  14   08/18/1968  Louisiana-Lafayette
Levens, Dorsey          28  RB          6-1  230  10   05/21/1970  Georgia Tech       
Barber, Tiki            21  RB    RB    5-10 200  7    04/07/1975  Virginia           
##Dayne, Ron            27  RB          5-10 253  4    03/14/1978  Wisconsin          
Joyce, Delvin           33  RB          5-7  181  4    09/21/1978  James Madison      
Finn, Jim               20  FB          6-0  235  4    12/09/1976  Pennsylvania       
Heath, Levon            31  FB    FB    6-1  253  1    03/08/1980  Valparaiso         
Rivers, Marcellus       83  TE          6-4  231  3    10/26/1978  Oklahoma State     
Shockey, Jeremy         80  TE    TE    6-4  245  2    08/18/1980  Miami, Florida     
Shiancoe, Vishante      82  TE          6-4  251  1    06/18/1980  Morgan State       
Toomer, Amani           81  FL    FL    6-3  202  8    09/08/1974  Michigan           
Carter, Tim             84  FL          5-11 190  2    09/21/1979  Auburn             
##Ponder, Willie        87  FL          6-0  202  1    02/14/1980  SE Missouri St.    
Hilliard, Ike           88  SE    SE    5-11 195  6    04/05/1976  Florida            
Dixon, Ron              86  SE          6-0  190  4    05/28/1976  Lambuth            
##Tyree, David          85  SE          6-0  200  1    01/03/1980  Syracuse           
##Kuehl, Ryan           91  C           6-5  290  7    01/18/1972  Virginia           
##Bober, Chris          67  C           6-4  305  4    12/24/1976  Nebraska - Omaha   
Dach, Carson            57  C           6-1  255  1    09/29/1980  Eastern Michigan   
Lucier, Wayne           62  C     C     6-3  300  1    12/05/1979  Colorado           
Seubert, Rich           69  LG    LG    6-3  295  3    03/30/1979  Western Illinois   
Gutting, Bob            64  LG          6-4  322  1    12/30/1982  Maine              
Diehl, Dave             66  RG    RG    6-5  315  1    09/15/1980  Illinois           
##Offutt, Billy Joe     63  RG          6-3  280  1    11/16/1982  Towson             
Petitgout, Luke         77  LT    LT    6-6  315  5    06/15/1972  Notre Dame         
Allen, Ian              74  RT          6-4  300  4    07/22/1978  Purdue             
##Hatch, Jeff           76  RT          6-7  300  2    09/28/1979  Pennsylvania       
Roehl, Jeff             73  RT    RT    6-4  303  1    05/18/1980  Northwestern       
Feagles, Jeff           10  P           6-1  204  16   08/07/1966  Miami, Florida     
Bryant, Matt            8   K           5-9  191  4    05/29/1975  Baylor             
Strahan, Michael        92  LDE   LDE   6-5  275  11   11/21/1971  Texas Southern     
Washington, Keith       99  LDE         6-4  275  8    12/18/1972  UNLV               
Holmes, Kenny           90  RDE   RDE   6-4  270  7    10/24/1973  Miami, Florida     
Umenyiora, Osi          72  RDE         6-3  275  1    11/16/1981  Troy State         
Griffin, Cornelius      97  LDT   LDT   6-3  300  4    12/03/1976  Alabama            
##Legree, Lance         70  LDT         6-1  285  3    12/22/1977  Notre Dame         
Hamilton, Keith         75  RDT   RDT   6-6  300  12   05/25/1971  Pittsburgh         
Joseph, William         94  RDT         6-5  303  3    09/03/1979  Miami, Florida     
McArthur, Norbert       95  WILB        6-5  257  1    10/17/1982  Virginia Tech      
Barrow, Mike            58  MLB   MLB   6-2  236  11   04/19/1970  Miami, Florida     
##Greisen, Nick         54  MLB         6-1  234  2    08/10/1979  Wisconsin          
Short, Brandon          53  SLB   SLB   6-2  252  4    07/11/1977  Penn State         
Monk, Quincy            93  SLB         6-2  240  2    01/30/1979  North Carolina     
##Lewis, Kevin          59  WLB         6-0  230  4    10/06/1978  Duke               
Jones, Dhani            55  WLB   WLB   6-1  237  3    02/22/1978  Michigan           
Mallard, Wesly          51  WLB         6-1  212  2    11/21/1978  Oregon             
Serwanga, Kato          26  LCB         6-0  200  5    07/23/1976  California         
Allen, Will             25  LCB   LCB   5-10 192  3    08/05/1978  Syracuse           
##Walker, Frank         41  LCB         5-10 198  1    08/06/1981  Tuskegee           
Green, Ray              29  RCB         6-3  187  4    03/22/1977  South Carolina     
Brown, Ralph            22  RCB         5-10 180  3    09/16/1978  Nebraska           
Peterson, William       24  RCB   RCB   6-0  197  3    06/15/1979  Western Illinois   
Williams, Shaun         36  SS    SS    6-2  215  6    10/10/1976  UCLA               
Clark, Ryan             39  SS          5-11 185  2    10/12/1979  Louisiana State    
Stoutmire, Omar         23  FS    FS    5-11 198  7    07/09/1974  Fresno State       
##Harris, Johnnie       37  FS          6-2  210  5    02/21/1972  Mississippi State  
   
$$ - player is in starting lineup, ## - player is inactive.  
   
Players Under Contract: 60
Inactive: 14
On Active Roster: 46
   
Salary Cap: $75,000,000
Cap Room: $14,100,000
Maximum for New Player: $14,340,000
Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $120,000
   
Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $480,000
Cap Room Required Next Year: $74,450,000

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:04 PM

Code:

New York Giants 2003 Exhibition Season Schedule
   
  Week    Opponent                             Result    Attendance Weather  
Week 1    OPEN                                    
Week 2    at New England Patriots              L, 14-17  67,500     Sunny, 56
Week 3    CAROLINA PANTHERS                    L, 12-22  78,600     Rain, 63
Week 4    NEW JERSEY JETS                      L, 9-19   78,600     Sunny, 57
Week 5    at Baltimore Ravens                  W, 34-10  66,700     Sunny, 91

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:17 PM

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2003 Regular Season Standings
   
  AC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Pittsburgh              11  5   0   .688  405   296   8-4     5-1       
Baltimore               7   9   0   .438  278   322   7-5     3-3       
Cleveland               6   10  0   .375  278   382   6-6     4-2       
Cincinnati              4   12  0   .250  271   382   2-10    0-6       
   
  AC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Indianapolis            12  4   0   .750  395   298   10-2    5-1       
Jacksonville            10  6   0   .625  306   197   8-4     2-4       
Tennessee               9   7   0   .563  312   315   8-4     4-2       
Houston                 9   7   0   .563  260   281   7-5     1-5       
   
  AC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Buffalo                 8   8   0   .500  314   293   7-5     5-1       
New Jersey              5   11  0   .313  309   323   3-9     3-3       
Miami                   5   11  0   .313  200   324   2-10    2-4       
New England             5   11  0   .313  249   324   4-8     2-4       
   
  AC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Oakland                 12  4   0   .750  415   343   9-3     4-2       
Kansas City             10  6   0   .625  391   291   8-4     5-1       
San Diego               5   11  0   .313  277   334   4-8     3-3       
Denver                  5   11  0   .313  291   372   3-9     0-6       
   
  NC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Green Bay               8   7   1   .531  343   276   6-5-1   5-0-1     
Detroit                 6   10  0   .375  270   375   4-8     2-4       
Minnesota               4   11  1   .281  297   343   2-9-1   2-3-1     
Chicago                 4   12  0   .250  189   335   2-10    2-4       
   
  NC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Tampa Bay               12  4   0   .750  331   170   10-2    6-0       
Carolina                11  5   0   .688  275   258   8-4     3-3       
New Orleans             6   10  0   .375  241   330   4-8     2-4       
Atlanta                 5   11  0   .313  227   295   3-9     1-5       
   
  NC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
New York                10  6   0   .625  317   270   7-5     5-1       
Philadelphia            9   7   0   .563  272   253   7-5     4-2       
Dallas                  8   8   0   .500  239   262   6-6     2-4       
Washington              7   9   0   .438  201   255   5-7     1-5       
   
  NC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
St. Louis               12  4   0   .750  413   332   8-4     2-4       
Seattle                 11  5   0   .688  394   279   9-3     4-2       
San Francisco           11  5   0   .688  362   252   9-3     3-3       
Arizona                 8   8   0   .500  327   287   5-7     3-3

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:20 PM

2003 Playoffs

Jacksonville at Buffalo
Kansas City at Pittsburgh
San Francisco at New York
Seattle at Green Bay

Byes
St. Louis and Tampa Bay (NFC)
Oakland and Indianapolis (AFC)

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:21 PM

2003 Wildcard Results

Jacksonville 24, Buffalo 21
Kansas City 17, Pittsburgh 14
San Francisco 9, New York 10
Seattle 17, Green Bay 6

Second Round
Jacksonville at Oakland
Kansas City at Indianapolis
New York at St. Louis
Seattle at Tampa Bay

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:23 PM

2003 2nd Round Playoffs Results
Jacksonville 23, Oakland 20
Kansas City 27, Indianapolis 24
New York 16, St. Louis 13
Seattle 10, Tampa Bay 23

Tampa Bay was the only home team (only team with a 1st round bye) to win.

Conference Championship
Kansas City at Jacksonville
New York at Tampa Bay

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:25 PM

2003 Conference Chmapionships
Kansas City 7, Jacksonville 28
New York 17, Tampa Bay 23

2003 Super Bowl
Jacksonville 6, Tampa Bay 24

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:35 PM

2004 Off Season: Big Free Agent signings

*due to cap space, I did not participate in the free agent period.

T Walter Jones signs with Arizona. $57.69 million over 5 years
OLB Ian Gold signs with Carolina. $22.45 million over 5 years
CB Charles Woodson signs with Arizona. $47.73 million over 6 years
CB Champ Bailey signs with Philadelphia. $29.95 million over 4 years
T John Tate signs with San Diego. $44.35 million over 6 years
DE Jevon Kearse signs with Atlanta. $25.30 million over 5 years
CB Shawn Springs signs with Minnesota. $21.34 million over 4 years
QB Payton Manning signs with Cleveland. $55.82 million over 4 years
CB Troy Vincent signs with Jacksonville. $19.34 million over 3 years
CB Chris McAllister signs with Washington. $41.88 million over 5 years

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:37 PM

2004 Off Season: Draft

How the 1st Round Went
1. Chicago - Lehmkuhl, Leslie, T, Purdue
2. Cincinnati - Ford, Clay, DT, Virginia Tech
3. Minnesota - Mahoney, Maurice, T, Wake Forest
4. New England - Dunlap, Marty, DT, Arkansas
5. Miami - Emerson, Gabe, WR, Wisconsin
6. New Jersey - Campos, Maurice, ILB, Nebraska
7. Denver - Burns, Peter, G, UCLA
8. San Diego - McDaniel, R.J., ILB, Southern California
9. Atlanta - Manley, Darnell, WR, Nebraska
10. New Orleans - Stargell, Vernon, OLB, Stanford
11. Detroit - Guthrie, Jamie, RB, Oklahoma
12. Cleveland - Lake, Morris, DE, Georgia
13. Washington - Church, Julio, S, Maryland
14. Baltimore - McGregor, Brett, WR, Illinois
15. Buffalo - Koester, Sedrick, RB, Clemson
16. Arizona - Mincy, Charles, QB, Texas
17. Dallas - Chancey, D.J., RB, South Carolina
18. Cincinnati - Wilkerson, Ike, T, Nebraska
19. Philadelphia - Swinger, Ty, RB, Ohio State
20. Houston - de Groh, Harvey, CB, Arizona
21. Tennessee - Myslinski, Mack, OLB, Florida State
22. Kansas City - Roberson, Conrad, WR, Virginia Tech
23. New York - Herron, Walter, OLB, Pittsburgh
24. Pittsburgh - Lewis, Rico, S, Colorado
25. Carolina - Diaz, Archie, WR, Texas
26. San Francisco - Castillo, Hunter, DT, Wake Forest
27. Seattle - Tolbert, Marco, CB, Arizona State
28. Oakland - Webb, Shannon, QB, Florida State
29. Indianapolis - Wayne, Lee, OLB, Maryland
30. Green Bay - Harman, Amos, ILB, Michigan
31. Jacksonville - Fuller, Rusty, RB, Georgia
32. Tampa Bay - Booker, Donnell, S, Illinois

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 05:45 PM

Reality Splits

The the end of the 2004 offseason, the 3 realities shall begin. Here is the roster of my 2004 squad as it stands right after training camp. All 3 realities have the same roster

Code:

  Player                #   Pos   Start OnTm   EndCnt Exp  Cap Cost        Save if Rls
Collins, Kerry          5   QB    QB    1999   2004   10   $8,950,000      $7,000,000 
Winslett, Adam          2   QB          2004   2004   1    $250,000        $250,000   
Mussi, Steven           1   QB          2004   2007   1    $480,000        $270,000   
Mitchell, Brian         30  RB          2003   2006   15   $960,000        $840,000   
Levens, Dorsey          28  RB          2003   2005   11   $940,000        $840,000   
Barber, Tiki            21  RB    RB    1997   2006   8    $6,050,000      $3,980,000 
Dayne, Ron              27  RB          2000   2004   5    $1,150,000      $700,000   
Bennett, Orlando        34  RB          2004   2006   1    $270,000        $270,000   
Finn, Jim               20  FB    FB    2003   2004   5    $580,000        $580,000   
Popson, Courtney        32  FB          2004   2006   1    $720,000        $350,000   
Shockey, Jeremy         80  TE    TE    2002   2006   3    $1,650,000      $460,000   
Shiancoe, Vishante      82  TE          2003   2005   2    $460,000        $320,000   
Toomer, Amani           81  FL    FL    1996   2006   9    $6,280,000      $4,400,000 
Carter, Tim             84  FL          2002   2005   3    $820,000        $450,000   
Newsome, Richard        85  FL          2004   2006   1    $360,000        $270,000   
Hilliard, Ike           88  SE    SE    1997   2007   7    $2,250,000      $1,500,000 
Dixon, Ron              86  SE          2000   2005   5    $950,000        $890,000   
Kuehl, Ryan             91  C           2003   2007   8    $790,000        $720,000   
Dach, Carson            57  C           2003   2005   2    $320,000        $320,000   
Lucier, Wayne           62  C     C     2003   2004   2    $390,000        $320,000   
Seubert, Rich           69  LG    LG    2001   2007   4    $1,230,000      $550,000   
Duran, Roosevelt        60  LG          2004   2004   1    $250,000        $250,000   
Diehl, Dave             66  RG    RG    2003   2005   2    $350,000        $320,000   
Petitgout, Luke         77  LT    LT    1999   2008   6    $3,100,000      $1,470,000 
Hatch, Jeff             76  RT          2002   2004   3    $580,000        $410,000   
Roehl, Jeff             73  RT    RT    2003   2005   2    $320,000        $320,000   
Feagles, Jeff           10  P           2003   2007   17   $940,000        $840,000   
Bryant, Matt            8   K           2002   2004   5    $580,000        $580,000   
Strahan, Michael        92  LDE   LDE   1993   2008   12   $6,580,000      $4,350,000 
Holmes, Kenny           90  RDE   RDE   2001   2005   8    $5,700,000      $4,600,000 
Umenyiora, Osi          72  RDE         2003   2006   2    $610,000        $320,000   
Hamilton, Keith         75  LDT   LDT   1992   2006   13   $5,530,000      $4,500,000 
Joseph, William         94  RDT   RDT   2003   2006   4    $1,080,000      $550,000   
Woods, Rufus            93  RDT         2004   2004   1    $250,000        $250,000   
Barrow, Mike            58  MLB   MLB   2000   2005   12   $6,070,000      $4,500,000 
Greisen, Nick           54  MLB         2002   2004   3    $450,000        $410,000   
Pool, Brenden           97  MLB         2004   2006   1    $310,000        $270,000   
Jones, Dhani            55  SLB   SLB   2000   2005   4    $760,000        $680,000   
Mallard, Wesly          51  WLB   WLB   2002   2004   3    $440,000        $410,000   
Herron, Walter          50  WLB         2004   2007   1    $1,520,000      $620,000   
Allen, Will             25  LCB   LCB   2001   2005   4    $1,340,000      $500,000   
Arnett, Andre           22  LCB         2004   2004   1    $250,000        $250,000   
Serwanga, Kato          26  RCB   RCB   2002   2004   6    $640,000        $640,000   
Green, Ray              29  RCB         2003   2004   5    $580,000        $580,000   
Jacobs, Jack            44  RCB         2004   2006   1    $300,000        $270,000   
Williams, Shaun         36  SS    SS    1998   2007   7    $4,160,000      $3,100,000 
Clark, Ryan             39  SS          2002   2004   3    $410,000        $410,000   
Stoutmire, Omar         23  FS    FS    2000   2005   8    $940,000        $720,000   
McNeil, Drew            24  FS          2004   2004   1    $250,000        $250,000   
   
$$ - player is in starting lineup, ## - player is inactive.  
   
Players Under Contract: 49
Inactive: 0
On Active Roster: 49
   
Salary Cap: $82,400,000
Cap Room: $1,410,000
Maximum for New Player: $1,410,000
Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $850,000
   
Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0
Cap Room Required Next Year: $74,030,000

sabotai · 08-17-2004, 06:58 PM

Alternate Reality #1

2004 Preseason Week 1
Arizona 27, Jacksonville 20
New York 23, San Diego 20

Alternate Reality #2

2004 Preseason Week 1
Arizona 16, Jacksonville 24
New York 20, San Diego 20

Injury Report
OLB Walter Herron is out for 4 weeks with a Strained Achilles Tendon. (Yes, he's our #1 draft pick)

Alternate Reality #3

2004 Preseason Week 1
Arizona 24, Jacksonville 13
New York 28, San Diego 34

Injury Report
OLB Walter Herron is Questionable with a Pulled Groin
MLB Mike Barrow has severe depression.

Reality Comparison

2 out of 3 realities saw the #1 pick, OLB Walter Herron, go down to injury. In one, it just left him Questionable while in the other he'll likely miss a few preseason games. Not looking good as it might be an indication of him being injury prone.

Record for the week: 1-1-1

jfbbis · 08-18-2004, 12:11 PM

Great idea! I will follow that one closely.

JeeberD · 08-18-2004, 12:13 PM

Very cool concept...

sabotai · 08-19-2004, 11:54 PM

Alternate Reality #1

It was said in my previous post (btw, thanks for the support guys.

) that Walter Herron got injured in 2 of the 3 realities. That is not the case as I didn't take notice that Herron indeed got injured in Alternate Reality #1 (AR1). However, it was just Knee Tendinitis as was listed as Probable. Make it 3 for 3.

Anyway, the results. I played week 1, so I don't play this week.

Atlanta Falcons 27, New Jersey Jets 24
Carolina Panthers 17, New England Patriots 24
Chicago Bears 16, Baltimore Ravens 23
Dallas Cowboys 23, Oakland Raiders 20
Detroit Lions 19, Cincinnati Bengals 10
Green Bay Packers 35, Cleveland Browns 31
Minnesota Vikings 13, Pittsburgh Steelers 21
New Orleans Saints 14, Buffalo Bills 7
Philadelphia Eagles 30, Denver Broncos 27
Seattle Seahawks 10, Houston Texans 21
San Francisco 49ers 17, Indianapolis Colts 19
St. Louis Rams 27, Tennessee Titans 24
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13, Miami Dolphins 21
Washington Redskins 26, Kansas City Cheifs 23

After the week, Herron was fully recovered.

sabotai · 08-19-2004, 11:59 PM

Alternate Reality #2

Preseason Week 2 Results

Atlanta Falcons 21, New Jersey Jets 16
Carolina Panthers 12, New England Patriots 24
Chicago Bears 23, Baltimore Ravens 17
Dallas Cowboys 17, Oakland Raiders 14
Detroit Lions 30, Cincinnati Bengals 17
Green Bay Packers 26, Cleveland Browns 10
Minnesota Vikings 3, Pittsburgh Steelers 10
New Orleans Saints 13, Buffalo Bills 34
Philadelphia Eagles 7, Denver Broncos 14
Seattle Seahawks 10, Houston Texans 13
San Francisco 49ers 20, Indianapolis Colts 24
St. Louis Rams 20, Tennessee Titans 21
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16, Miami Dolphins 0
Washington Redskins 38, Kansas City Cheifs 24

Walter Herron is still listed as Out.

(Also, Barrow is also suffering from Severe Depression in both AR1 and AR2, something else I didn't pick up)

cthomer5000 · 08-20-2004, 12:01 AM

Cool concept, I'll be reading.

sabotai · 08-20-2004, 12:03 AM

Alternate Reality #3

Preseason Week 2 Results

Atlanta Falcons 26, New Jersey Jets 20
Carolina Panthers 0, New England Patriots 30
Chicago Bears 14, Baltimore Ravens 13
Dallas Cowboys 13, Oakland Raiders 6
Detroit Lions 16, Cincinnati Bengals 24
Green Bay Packers 7, Cleveland Browns 20
Minnesota Vikings 20, Pittsburgh Steelers 19
New Orleans Saints 14, Buffalo Bills 7
Philadelphia Eagles 11, Denver Broncos 21
Seattle Seahawks 20, Houston Texans 23
San Francisco 49ers 24, Indianapolis Colts 19
St. Louis Rams 15, Tennessee Titans 13
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 24, Miami Dolphins 7
Washington Redskins 23, Kansas City Cheifs 20

Herron is listed as Probable.

sabotai · 08-20-2004, 12:07 AM

Reality Comparison

Not much to compare, didn't play this week. Our 1st round draft pick, Walter Herron, will be back in action in 2 of the 3 ARs. Barrow is depressed in all 3. Poor baby.

sabotai · 08-20-2004, 12:20 AM

Alternate Reality #1

Preseason Week 3 Results

Baltimore Ravens 20, Arizona Cardinals 31
Buffalo Bills 17, Dallas Cowboys 15
Cincinnati Bengals 21, Seattle Seahawks 21
Denver Broncos 24, Carolina Panthers 10
Indianapolis Colts 26, Minnesota Vikings 23
Jacksonville Jaguars 7, Chicago Bears 20
Kansas City Cheifs 23, Atlanta Falcons 28
Miami Dolphins 10, New York Giants 3
New England Patriots 13, Philadelphia Eagles 10
New Jersey Jets 30, Washington Redskins 20
Oakland Raiders 23, New Orleans Saints 17
Pittsburgh Steelers 17, San Francisco 49ers 16
San Diego Chargers 12, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 24
Tennessee Titans 24, Green Bay Packers 10
Cleveland Browns 14, St. Louis Rams 38
Houston Texans 24, Detroit Lions 21

A pretty big lose. Only managing 3 points is bad. Our defense was pretty solid, though.

Strahan put up a superhuman effort getting 4.5 sacks. Collins went 8 for 15 passing for 79 yards. Mussi 9 for 14 on 88 yards, but tossed a pick as well. FS Drew McNeil, who I picked up as an undrafted rookie, nabbed an INT. He is rated 80/90 in interceptions with a few ratings with a potential around 50, and several ratings in the single digits. I picked him up specifically to help create turnovers.

Injuries:

Keith Hamilton wilkl likely be gone for most of the season. He's listed as Out for 15 weeks due to MCL Damage to the Knee.

Godzilla Blitz · 08-20-2004, 01:15 AM

This is a cool idea. I'll be reading!

sabotai · 08-21-2004, 09:31 PM

Alternate Reality #2

Baltimore Ravens 23, Arizona Cardinals 28
Buffalo Bills 14, Dallas Cowboys 17
Cincinnati Bengals 23, Seattle Seahawks 10
Denver Broncos 20, Carolina Panthers 6
Indianapolis Colts 31, Minnesota Vikings 17
Jacksonville Jaguars 34, Chicago Bears 14
Kansas City Cheifs 25, Atlanta Falcons 38
Miami Dolphins 20, New York Giants 26
New England Patriots 6, Philadelphia Eagles 28
New Jersey Jets 13, Washington Redskins 17
Oakland Raiders 28, New Orleans Saints 34
Pittsburgh Steelers 7, San Francisco 49ers 14
San Diego Chargers 10, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15
Tennessee Titans 13, Green Bay Packers 21
Cleveland Browns 20, St. Louis Rams 26
Houston Texans 6, Detroit Lions 24

Collins threw 17 of 30 for 224 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT. Barber rushed in 2 TDs to go with his 44 yards. On defense, Strahan got himself 2 sacks.

Herron is listed as Probably for next week, as is SS Ryan Clark who has a Bad Cold.

sabotai · 08-21-2004, 09:36 PM

Alternate Reality #3

Baltimore Ravens 12, Arizona Cardinals 20
Buffalo Bills 26, Dallas Cowboys 20
Cincinnati Bengals 24, Seattle Seahawks 27
Denver Broncos 24, Carolina Panthers 16
Indianapolis Colts 27, Minnesota Vikings 20
Jacksonville Jaguars 31, Chicago Bears 23
Kansas City Cheifs 24, Atlanta Falcons 14
Miami Dolphins 27, New York Giants 3
New England Patriots 7, Philadelphia Eagles 27
New Jersey Jets 16, Washington Redskins 13
Oakland Raiders 17, New Orleans Saints 45
Pittsburgh Steelers 7, San Francisco 49ers 35
San Diego Chargers 17, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19
Tennessee Titans 21, Green Bay Packers 41
Cleveland Browns 16, St. Louis Rams 34
Houston Texans 27, Detroit Lions 24

Another bad showing. No running game in this one and Collins threw 2 picks. In Herron's only game in the 3 realities, he had 3 tackles with 1 assist.

Kenny Holmes is Probably with a Bad Cold, Dhani Jones has a sprained thumb and is Probable.

sabotai · 08-21-2004, 09:38 PM

Reality Comparison

Record: 1-2

The team in AR1 will have a hole at DT for atleast half of the season without Keith Hamilton at the line. It'll be interesting to see how AR1 does against the run as opposed to AR2 and AR3.

sabotai · 08-24-2004, 11:07 PM

Alternate Reality #1

Preseason Week 4

Arizona Cardinals 21, Houston Texans 13
Atlanta Falcons 16, New England Patriots 20
Carolina Panthers 3, New Jersey Jets 28
Chicago Bears 15, Cincinnati Bengals 23
Dallas Cowboys 20, San Diego Chargers 28
Detroit Lions 13, Baltimore Ravens 17
Green Bay Packers 6, Pittsburgh Steelers 9
Minnesota Vikings 22, Cleveland Browns 23
New Orleans Saints 30, Miami Dolphins 21
New York Giants 6, Oakland Raiders 20
Philadelphia Eagles 17, Kansas City Cheifs 34
Seattle Seahawks 13, Jacksonville Jaguars 18
San Francisco 49ers 12, Tennessee Titans 9
St. Louis Rams 34, Indianapolis Colts 26
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19, Buffalo Bills 0
Washington Redskins 20, Denver Broncos 23

Injuries hurt this team again
Jim Finn, FB - Torn Knee Cartilage, Out, full strength in about 4 weeks.
Roosevelt Duran, LG - Separated Shoulder, Out, full strength in about 6 weeks.

With the regular season starting in 2 weeks, Finn will probably miss at least 1 game while Duran will probably miss a few game.

Another so-so game from the AR1 team. Barber did run 43 yards on 8 carries. Collins was 19 for 37, 230 yards. Toomer caught for over 100 yards (103) on 6 receptions.

sabotai · 08-24-2004, 11:07 PM

Alternate Reality #2

Arizona Cardinals 30, Houston Texans 20
Atlanta Falcons 19, New England Patriots 20
Carolina Panthers 9, New Jersey Jets 21
Chicago Bears 17, Cincinnati Bengals 23
Dallas Cowboys 6, San Diego Chargers 3
Detroit Lions 26, Baltimore Ravens 14
Green Bay Packers 0, Pittsburgh Steelers 24
Minnesota Vikings 6, Cleveland Browns 14
New Orleans Saints 14, Miami Dolphins 24
New York Giants 21, Oakland Raiders 23
Philadelphia Eagles 24, Kansas City Cheifs 21
Seattle Seahawks 25, Jacksonville Jaguars 28
San Francisco 49ers 24, Tennessee Titans 17
St. Louis Rams 41, Indianapolis Colts 33
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16, Buffalo Bills 10
Washington Redskins 24, Denver Broncos 37

Jeremy Shockey pulled his groin and will be Doubtful for 4 weeks. All other injuries are listed as probable.

Collins went 14-19 for 199 yards and 1 TD. Toomer caught 116 yards on 7 receptions. Statistically we dominated them. We led 14-10 at the half and lost it in the 4th quarter.

Alf · 08-25-2004, 07:36 AM

I am assuming you are doing it too much detailed. I think that simming through seasons might make it a bit more interesting for you and for the readers (at least me

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sabotai · 08-25-2004, 03:28 PM

Heh, I was thinking of speeding it up some and not focusing so much on week-to-week wins and loses. More like doing it in stages. (Preseason, Weeks1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-17, and then each postseason week). Doing season by season is a little too fast for me. I'm a sensative simmer.

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:13 PM

Ok...time to do this at a faster pace. Essentially doing 3 dynasties at once needs less detail.

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:13 PM

Alternate Reality #1

Code:

2004 Exhibition Standings
   
  AC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Pittsburgh              3   1   0   .750  67    58    0-0     0-0       
Baltimore               2   2   0   .500  66    81    0-0     0-0       
Cincinnati              1   2   1   .375  65    69    0-0     0-0       
Cleveland               1   3   0   .250  84    126   0-0     0-0       
   
  AC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Indianapolis            3   1   0   .750  85    81    0-0     0-0       
Houston                 2   2   0   .500  64    64    0-0     0-0       
Jacksonville            2   2   0   .500  69    77    0-0     0-0       
Tennessee               2   2   0   .500  81    62    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Miami                   3   1   0   .750  68    56    0-0     0-0       
New England             3   1   0   .750  63    53    0-0     0-0       
New Jersey              2   2   0   .500  96    74    0-0     0-0       
Buffalo                 1   3   0   .250  36    63    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Denver                  3   1   0   .750  94    67    0-0     0-0       
Oakland                 2   2   0   .500  70    83    0-0     0-0       
San Diego               2   2   0   .500  71    76    0-0     0-0       
Kansas City             2   2   0   .500  125   84    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Chicago                 2   2   0   .500  63    59    0-0     0-0       
Detroit                 1   3   0   .250  70    75    0-0     0-0       
Green Bay               1   3   0   .250  58    78    0-0     0-0       
Minnesota               0   4   0   .000  71    94    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Tampa Bay               3   1   0   .750  93    40    0-0     0-0       
Atlanta                 2   2   0   .500  78    87    0-0     0-0       
New Orleans             2   2   0   .500  70    62    0-0     0-0       
Carolina                0   4   0   .000  43    121   0-0     0-0       
   
  NC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Washington              2   2   0   .500  76    82    0-0     0-0       
Philadelphia            2   2   0   .500  81    88    0-0     0-0       
New York                2   2   0   .500  47    62    0-0     0-0       
Dallas                  1   3   0   .250  68    81    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
St. Louis               4   0   0   1.000 122   84    0-0     0-0       
Arizona                 4   0   0   1.000 93    64    0-0     0-0       
San Francisco           2   2   0   .500  76    61    0-0     0-0       
Seattle                 1   2   1   .375  65    66    0-0     0-0

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:18 PM

Alternate Reality #1
New York Giants Preseason Report

Code:

New York Giants 2004 Exhibition Season Schedule
   
  Week    Opponent                              Result    Attendance Weather  
Week 1    at San Diego Chargers                 W, 23-20  55,200     Sunny, 83    
Week 2    OPEN                                    
Week 3    MIAMI DOLPHINS                        L, 3-10   79,700     Sunny, 60    
Week 4    at Oakland Raiders                    L, 6-20   57,000     Sunny, 71    
Week 5    BUFFALO BILLS                         W, 15-12  79,700     Sunny, 72    
   
Home Games in ALL CAPS

The Giants went 2-2 in the preseason.

Notable injuries going into the season:
Jim Finn, FB - Torn Knee Cartilage, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks.
Roosevelt Duran, LG - Separated Shoulder, Out, full strength in about 5 weeks.
Keith Hamilton, LDT - MCL Damage to the Knee, Out, full strength in about 13 weeks.

The middle of our defensive line is in trouble. Hope we can stop the run up the middle without Hamilton.

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:20 PM

Alternate Reality #2
Preseason Standings

Code:

Front Office Football 2004
2004 Exhibition Standings
   
  AC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Cincinnati              3   1   0   .750  80    72    0-0     0-0       
Pittsburgh              2   2   0   .500  58    40    0-0     0-0       
Cleveland               2   2   0   .500  54    67    0-0     0-0       
Baltimore               0   4   0   .000  67    94    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Jacksonville            4   0   0   1.000 117   65    0-0     0-0       
Indianapolis            2   2   0   .500  91    108   0-0     0-0       
Houston                 2   2   0   .500  65    73    0-0     0-0       
Tennessee               1   3   0   .250  61    84    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
New England             3   1   0   .750  65    62    0-0     0-0       
Miami                   2   2   0   .500  68    73    0-0     0-0       
Buffalo                 2   2   0   .500  78    63    0-0     0-0       
New Jersey              1   3   0   .250  71    74    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Denver                  4   0   0   1.000 101   47    0-0     0-0       
San Diego               1   2   1   .375  55    51    0-0     0-0       
Oakland                 1   3   0   .250  75    102   0-0     0-0       
Kansas City             0   4   0   .000  87    118   0-0     0-0       
   
  NC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Detroit                 3   1   0   .750  90    68    0-0     0-0       
Green Bay               3   1   0   .750  77    50    0-0     0-0       
Minnesota               1   3   0   .250  45    65    0-0     0-0       
Chicago                 1   3   0   .250  63    100   0-0     0-0       
   
  NC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Tampa Bay               4   0   0   1.000 77    30    0-0     0-0       
Atlanta                 2   2   0   .500  88    91    0-0     0-0       
New Orleans             1   3   0   .250  71    108   0-0     0-0       
Carolina                1   3   0   .250  45    82    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Dallas                  3   1   0   .750  57    55    0-0     0-0       
Philadelphia            3   1   0   .750  86    62    0-0     0-0       
Washington              2   2   0   .500  82    89    0-0     0-0       
New York                1   2   1   .375  84    83    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
St. Louis               3   1   0   .750  110   91    0-0     0-0       
San Francisco           2   2   0   .500  67    58    0-0     0-0       
Arizona                 2   2   0   .500  89    84    0-0     0-0       
Seattle                 1   3   0   .250  62    77    0-0     0-0

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:22 PM

Alternate Reality #2
New York Giants Report

Code:

New York Giants 2004 Exhibition Season Schedule
   
  Week    Opponent                              Result    Attendance Weather  
Week 1    at San Diego Chargers                 T, 20-20  55,200     Sunny, 81    
Week 2    OPEN                                    
Week 3    MIAMI DOLPHINS                        W, 26-20  79,700     Sunny, 70    
Week 4    at Oakland Raiders                    L, 21-23  56,500     Sunny, 62    
Week 5    BUFFALO BILLS                         L, 17-20  79,700     Sunny, 88    
   
Home Games in ALL CAPS

The Giants went 1-2-1 in the preseason.

Notable Injuries going into the season:
Jeremy Shockey, TE - Pulled Groin, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks.

Looks like we'll be missing Shockey for the first game or two, but otherwise we are healthy.

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:24 PM

Alternate Reality #3
Preseason Standings

Code:

2004 Exhibition Standings
   
  AC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Cleveland               2   2   0   .500  97    88    0-0     0-0       
Cincinnati              2   2   0   .500  81    69    0-0     0-0       
Pittsburgh              1   3   0   .250  59    100   0-0     0-0       
Baltimore               1   3   0   .250  65    74    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Houston                 4   0   0   1.000 91    67    0-0     0-0       
Indianapolis            3   1   0   .750  100   73    0-0     0-0       
Jacksonville            2   2   0   .500  77    86    0-0     0-0       
Tennessee               1   3   0   .250  88    94    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
New England             3   1   0   .750  83    54    0-0     0-0       
Miami                   3   1   0   .750  78    65    0-0     0-0       
New Jersey              2   2   0   .500  73    78    0-0     0-0       
Buffalo                 2   2   0   .500  63    71    0-0     0-0       
   
  AC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Denver                  3   1   0   .750  79    54    0-0     0-0       
San Diego               3   1   0   .750  85    75    0-0     0-0       
Kansas City             2   2   0   .500  82    77    0-0     0-0       
Oakland                 1   3   0   .250  49    97    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC North              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Chicago                 2   2   0   .500  63    78    0-0     0-0       
Minnesota               2   2   0   .500  85    103   0-0     0-0       
Green Bay               1   3   0   .250  71    91    0-0     0-0       
Detroit                 0   4   0   .000  76    98    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC South              W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Tampa Bay               4   0   0   1.000 86    40    0-0     0-0       
Atlanta                 2   2   0   .500  70    80    0-0     0-0       
New Orleans             2   2   0   .500  105   76    0-0     0-0       
Carolina                1   3   0   .250  52    93    0-0     0-0       
   
  NC East               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
Philadelphia            2   2   0   .500  81    64    0-0     0-0       
Washington              1   3   0   .250  60    80    0-0     0-0       
Dallas                  1   3   0   .250  53    58    0-0     0-0       
New York                0   4   0   .000  64    101   0-0     0-0       
   
  NC West               W   L   T   Pct   PF    PA    Conf    Div  
San Francisco           3   1   0   .750  99    84    0-0     0-0       
Seattle                 3   1   0   .750  90    73    0-0     0-0       
St. Louis               3   1   0   .750  100   66    0-0     0-0       
Arizona                 2   2   0   .500  67    65    0-0     0-0

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:26 PM

Alternate Reality #3
New York Giants Report

Code:

New York Giants 2004 Exhibition Season Schedule
   
  Week    Opponent                              Result    Attendance Weather  
Week 1    at San Diego Chargers                 L, 28-34  55,200     Sunny, 76    
Week 2    OPEN                                    
Week 3    MIAMI DOLPHINS                        L, 3-27   79,700     Sunny, 67    
Week 4    at Oakland Raiders                    L, 13-16  55,800     Rain, 65     
Week 5    BUFFALO BILLS                         L, 20-24  78,600     Sunny, 73    
   
Home Games in ALL CAPS

Ouch. We went 0-4 in the preseason.

Notable injuries going into the season:
Jeff Roehl, RT - Strained Deltoid Muscle, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks.
Vishante Shiancoe, TE - Strained Patellar Tendon, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks.

Our starting RT and backup TE will miss a couple of games.

sabotai · 09-03-2004, 11:34 PM

Alternate Reality Comparison
Preseason

Injuries
The AR2 and AR3 teams look good as far as injuries go. Both will miss 1 or 2 players for the opening game and on week 2, but no long term injuries. The AR1 team will have to make due without Keith Hamilton for most of the season.

Record
The AR1 team did the best going 2-2, next AR2 went 1-2-1 and then AR3 went without a win, going 0-4. As far as scoring goes, AR2 did the best being the only team to score more points than they gave up (84 PF, 83 PA).

08-18-2004, 12:13 PM	#14
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Very cool concept... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

08-20-2004, 12:20 AM	#20
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #1 Preseason Week 3 Results Baltimore Ravens 20, Arizona Cardinals 31 Buffalo Bills 17, Dallas Cowboys 15 Cincinnati Bengals 21, Seattle Seahawks 21 Denver Broncos 24, Carolina Panthers 10 Indianapolis Colts 26, Minnesota Vikings 23 Jacksonville Jaguars 7, Chicago Bears 20 Kansas City Cheifs 23, Atlanta Falcons 28 Miami Dolphins 10, New York Giants 3 New England Patriots 13, Philadelphia Eagles 10 New Jersey Jets 30, Washington Redskins 20 Oakland Raiders 23, New Orleans Saints 17 Pittsburgh Steelers 17, San Francisco 49ers 16 San Diego Chargers 12, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 24 Tennessee Titans 24, Green Bay Packers 10 Cleveland Browns 14, St. Louis Rams 38 Houston Texans 24, Detroit Lions 21 A pretty big lose. Only managing 3 points is bad. Our defense was pretty solid, though. Strahan put up a superhuman effort getting 4.5 sacks. Collins went 8 for 15 passing for 79 yards. Mussi 9 for 14 on 88 yards, but tossed a pick as well. FS Drew McNeil, who I picked up as an undrafted rookie, nabbed an INT. He is rated 80/90 in interceptions with a few ratings with a potential around 50, and several ratings in the single digits. I picked him up specifically to help create turnovers. Injuries: Keith Hamilton wilkl likely be gone for most of the season. He's listed as Out for 15 weeks due to MCL Damage to the Knee. Last edited by sabotai : 08-20-2004 at 12:25 AM.

08-24-2004, 11:07 PM	#26
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #2 Arizona Cardinals 30, Houston Texans 20 Atlanta Falcons 19, New England Patriots 20 Carolina Panthers 9, New Jersey Jets 21 Chicago Bears 17, Cincinnati Bengals 23 Dallas Cowboys 6, San Diego Chargers 3 Detroit Lions 26, Baltimore Ravens 14 Green Bay Packers 0, Pittsburgh Steelers 24 Minnesota Vikings 6, Cleveland Browns 14 New Orleans Saints 14, Miami Dolphins 24 New York Giants 21, Oakland Raiders 23 Philadelphia Eagles 24, Kansas City Cheifs 21 Seattle Seahawks 25, Jacksonville Jaguars 28 San Francisco 49ers 24, Tennessee Titans 17 St. Louis Rams 41, Indianapolis Colts 33 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16, Buffalo Bills 10 Washington Redskins 24, Denver Broncos 37 Jeremy Shockey pulled his groin and will be Doubtful for 4 weeks. All other injuries are listed as probable. Collins went 14-19 for 199 yards and 1 TD. Toomer caught 116 yards on 7 receptions. Statistically we dominated them. We led 14-10 at the half and lost it in the 4th quarter. Last edited by sabotai : 08-24-2004 at 11:07 PM.

08-25-2004, 07:36 AM	#27
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	I am assuming you are doing it too much detailed. I think that simming through seasons might make it a bit more interesting for you and for the readers (at least me ) __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

09-03-2004, 11:18 PM	#31
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #1 New York Giants Preseason Report Code: New York Giants 2004 Exhibition Season Schedule Week Opponent Result Attendance Weather Week 1 at San Diego Chargers W, 23-20 55,200 Sunny, 83 Week 2 OPEN Week 3 MIAMI DOLPHINS L, 3-10 79,700 Sunny, 60 Week 4 at Oakland Raiders L, 6-20 57,000 Sunny, 71 Week 5 BUFFALO BILLS W, 15-12 79,700 Sunny, 72 Home Games in ALL CAPS The Giants went 2-2 in the preseason. Notable injuries going into the season: Jim Finn, FB - Torn Knee Cartilage, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks. Roosevelt Duran, LG - Separated Shoulder, Out, full strength in about 5 weeks. Keith Hamilton, LDT - MCL Damage to the Knee, Out, full strength in about 13 weeks. The middle of our defensive line is in trouble. Hope we can stop the run up the middle without Hamilton. Last edited by sabotai : 09-03-2004 at 11:19 PM.

08-17-2004, 05:20 PM	#5
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	2003 Playoffs Jacksonville at Buffalo Kansas City at Pittsburgh San Francisco at New York Seattle at Green Bay Byes St. Louis and Tampa Bay (NFC) Oakland and Indianapolis (AFC)

08-17-2004, 05:21 PM	#6
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	2003 Wildcard Results Jacksonville 24, Buffalo 21 Kansas City 17, Pittsburgh 14 San Francisco 9, New York 10 Seattle 17, Green Bay 6 Second Round Jacksonville at Oakland Kansas City at Indianapolis New York at St. Louis Seattle at Tampa Bay

08-17-2004, 05:23 PM	#7
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	2003 2nd Round Playoffs Results Jacksonville 23, Oakland 20 Kansas City 27, Indianapolis 24 New York 16, St. Louis 13 Seattle 10, Tampa Bay 23 Tampa Bay was the only home team (only team with a 1st round bye) to win. Conference Championship Kansas City at Jacksonville New York at Tampa Bay

08-17-2004, 05:25 PM	#8
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	2003 Conference Chmapionships Kansas City 7, Jacksonville 28 New York 17, Tampa Bay 23 2003 Super Bowl Jacksonville 6, Tampa Bay 24

08-17-2004, 05:35 PM	#9
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	2004 Off Season: Big Free Agent signings *due to cap space, I did not participate in the free agent period. T Walter Jones signs with Arizona. $57.69 million over 5 years OLB Ian Gold signs with Carolina. $22.45 million over 5 years CB Charles Woodson signs with Arizona. $47.73 million over 6 years CB Champ Bailey signs with Philadelphia. $29.95 million over 4 years T John Tate signs with San Diego. $44.35 million over 6 years DE Jevon Kearse signs with Atlanta. $25.30 million over 5 years CB Shawn Springs signs with Minnesota. $21.34 million over 4 years QB Payton Manning signs with Cleveland. $55.82 million over 4 years CB Troy Vincent signs with Jacksonville. $19.34 million over 3 years CB Chris McAllister signs with Washington. $41.88 million over 5 years

08-17-2004, 05:37 PM	#10
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	2004 Off Season: Draft How the 1st Round Went 1. Chicago - Lehmkuhl, Leslie, T, Purdue 2. Cincinnati - Ford, Clay, DT, Virginia Tech 3. Minnesota - Mahoney, Maurice, T, Wake Forest 4. New England - Dunlap, Marty, DT, Arkansas 5. Miami - Emerson, Gabe, WR, Wisconsin 6. New Jersey - Campos, Maurice, ILB, Nebraska 7. Denver - Burns, Peter, G, UCLA 8. San Diego - McDaniel, R.J., ILB, Southern California 9. Atlanta - Manley, Darnell, WR, Nebraska 10. New Orleans - Stargell, Vernon, OLB, Stanford 11. Detroit - Guthrie, Jamie, RB, Oklahoma 12. Cleveland - Lake, Morris, DE, Georgia 13. Washington - Church, Julio, S, Maryland 14. Baltimore - McGregor, Brett, WR, Illinois 15. Buffalo - Koester, Sedrick, RB, Clemson 16. Arizona - Mincy, Charles, QB, Texas 17. Dallas - Chancey, D.J., RB, South Carolina 18. Cincinnati - Wilkerson, Ike, T, Nebraska 19. Philadelphia - Swinger, Ty, RB, Ohio State 20. Houston - de Groh, Harvey, CB, Arizona 21. Tennessee - Myslinski, Mack, OLB, Florida State 22. Kansas City - Roberson, Conrad, WR, Virginia Tech 23. New York - Herron, Walter, OLB, Pittsburgh 24. Pittsburgh - Lewis, Rico, S, Colorado 25. Carolina - Diaz, Archie, WR, Texas 26. San Francisco - Castillo, Hunter, DT, Wake Forest 27. Seattle - Tolbert, Marco, CB, Arizona State 28. Oakland - Webb, Shannon, QB, Florida State 29. Indianapolis - Wayne, Lee, OLB, Maryland 30. Green Bay - Harman, Amos, ILB, Michigan 31. Jacksonville - Fuller, Rusty, RB, Georgia 32. Tampa Bay - Booker, Donnell, S, Illinois

08-17-2004, 06:58 PM	#12
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #1 2004 Preseason Week 1 Arizona 27, Jacksonville 20 New York 23, San Diego 20 Alternate Reality #2 2004 Preseason Week 1 Arizona 16, Jacksonville 24 New York 20, San Diego 20 Injury Report OLB Walter Herron is out for 4 weeks with a Strained Achilles Tendon. (Yes, he's our #1 draft pick) Alternate Reality #3 2004 Preseason Week 1 Arizona 24, Jacksonville 13 New York 28, San Diego 34 Injury Report OLB Walter Herron is Questionable with a Pulled Groin MLB Mike Barrow has severe depression. Reality Comparison 2 out of 3 realities saw the #1 pick, OLB Walter Herron, go down to injury. In one, it just left him Questionable while in the other he'll likely miss a few preseason games. Not looking good as it might be an indication of him being injury prone. Record for the week: 1-1-1

08-18-2004, 12:11 PM	#13
jfbbis n00b Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyon, France	Great idea! I will follow that one closely.

08-19-2004, 11:54 PM	#15
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #1 It was said in my previous post (btw, thanks for the support guys. ) that Walter Herron got injured in 2 of the 3 realities. That is not the case as I didn't take notice that Herron indeed got injured in Alternate Reality #1 (AR1). However, it was just Knee Tendinitis as was listed as Probable. Make it 3 for 3. Anyway, the results. I played week 1, so I don't play this week. Atlanta Falcons 27, New Jersey Jets 24 Carolina Panthers 17, New England Patriots 24 Chicago Bears 16, Baltimore Ravens 23 Dallas Cowboys 23, Oakland Raiders 20 Detroit Lions 19, Cincinnati Bengals 10 Green Bay Packers 35, Cleveland Browns 31 Minnesota Vikings 13, Pittsburgh Steelers 21 New Orleans Saints 14, Buffalo Bills 7 Philadelphia Eagles 30, Denver Broncos 27 Seattle Seahawks 10, Houston Texans 21 San Francisco 49ers 17, Indianapolis Colts 19 St. Louis Rams 27, Tennessee Titans 24 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13, Miami Dolphins 21 Washington Redskins 26, Kansas City Cheifs 23 After the week, Herron was fully recovered.

08-19-2004, 11:59 PM	#16
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #2 Preseason Week 2 Results Atlanta Falcons 21, New Jersey Jets 16 Carolina Panthers 12, New England Patriots 24 Chicago Bears 23, Baltimore Ravens 17 Dallas Cowboys 17, Oakland Raiders 14 Detroit Lions 30, Cincinnati Bengals 17 Green Bay Packers 26, Cleveland Browns 10 Minnesota Vikings 3, Pittsburgh Steelers 10 New Orleans Saints 13, Buffalo Bills 34 Philadelphia Eagles 7, Denver Broncos 14 Seattle Seahawks 10, Houston Texans 13 San Francisco 49ers 20, Indianapolis Colts 24 St. Louis Rams 20, Tennessee Titans 21 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16, Miami Dolphins 0 Washington Redskins 38, Kansas City Cheifs 24 Walter Herron is still listed as Out. (Also, Barrow is also suffering from Severe Depression in both AR1 and AR2, something else I didn't pick up)

08-20-2004, 12:03 AM	#18
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #3 Preseason Week 2 Results Atlanta Falcons 26, New Jersey Jets 20 Carolina Panthers 0, New England Patriots 30 Chicago Bears 14, Baltimore Ravens 13 Dallas Cowboys 13, Oakland Raiders 6 Detroit Lions 16, Cincinnati Bengals 24 Green Bay Packers 7, Cleveland Browns 20 Minnesota Vikings 20, Pittsburgh Steelers 19 New Orleans Saints 14, Buffalo Bills 7 Philadelphia Eagles 11, Denver Broncos 21 Seattle Seahawks 20, Houston Texans 23 San Francisco 49ers 24, Indianapolis Colts 19 St. Louis Rams 15, Tennessee Titans 13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 24, Miami Dolphins 7 Washington Redskins 23, Kansas City Cheifs 20 Herron is listed as Probable.

08-20-2004, 12:07 AM	#19
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Reality Comparison Not much to compare, didn't play this week. Our 1st round draft pick, Walter Herron, will be back in action in 2 of the 3 ARs. Barrow is depressed in all 3. Poor baby.

08-20-2004, 01:15 AM	#21
Godzilla Blitz College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	This is a cool idea. I'll be reading!

08-21-2004, 09:31 PM	#22
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #2 Baltimore Ravens 23, Arizona Cardinals 28 Buffalo Bills 14, Dallas Cowboys 17 Cincinnati Bengals 23, Seattle Seahawks 10 Denver Broncos 20, Carolina Panthers 6 Indianapolis Colts 31, Minnesota Vikings 17 Jacksonville Jaguars 34, Chicago Bears 14 Kansas City Cheifs 25, Atlanta Falcons 38 Miami Dolphins 20, New York Giants 26 New England Patriots 6, Philadelphia Eagles 28 New Jersey Jets 13, Washington Redskins 17 Oakland Raiders 28, New Orleans Saints 34 Pittsburgh Steelers 7, San Francisco 49ers 14 San Diego Chargers 10, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 15 Tennessee Titans 13, Green Bay Packers 21 Cleveland Browns 20, St. Louis Rams 26 Houston Texans 6, Detroit Lions 24 Collins threw 17 of 30 for 224 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT. Barber rushed in 2 TDs to go with his 44 yards. On defense, Strahan got himself 2 sacks. Herron is listed as Probably for next week, as is SS Ryan Clark who has a Bad Cold.

08-21-2004, 09:36 PM	#23
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #3 Baltimore Ravens 12, Arizona Cardinals 20 Buffalo Bills 26, Dallas Cowboys 20 Cincinnati Bengals 24, Seattle Seahawks 27 Denver Broncos 24, Carolina Panthers 16 Indianapolis Colts 27, Minnesota Vikings 20 Jacksonville Jaguars 31, Chicago Bears 23 Kansas City Cheifs 24, Atlanta Falcons 14 Miami Dolphins 27, New York Giants 3 New England Patriots 7, Philadelphia Eagles 27 New Jersey Jets 16, Washington Redskins 13 Oakland Raiders 17, New Orleans Saints 45 Pittsburgh Steelers 7, San Francisco 49ers 35 San Diego Chargers 17, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19 Tennessee Titans 21, Green Bay Packers 41 Cleveland Browns 16, St. Louis Rams 34 Houston Texans 27, Detroit Lions 24 Another bad showing. No running game in this one and Collins threw 2 picks. In Herron's only game in the 3 realities, he had 3 tackles with 1 assist. Kenny Holmes is Probably with a Bad Cold, Dhani Jones has a sprained thumb and is Probable.

08-21-2004, 09:38 PM	#24
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Reality Comparison Record: 1-2 The team in AR1 will have a hole at DT for atleast half of the season without Keith Hamilton at the line. It'll be interesting to see how AR1 does against the run as opposed to AR2 and AR3.

08-25-2004, 03:28 PM	#28
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Heh, I was thinking of speeding it up some and not focusing so much on week-to-week wins and loses. More like doing it in stages. (Preseason, Weeks1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-17, and then each postseason week). Doing season by season is a little too fast for me. I'm a sensative simmer.

09-03-2004, 11:13 PM	#29
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Ok...time to do this at a faster pace. Essentially doing 3 dynasties at once needs less detail.

09-03-2004, 11:22 PM	#33
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #2 New York Giants Report Code: New York Giants 2004 Exhibition Season Schedule Week Opponent Result Attendance Weather Week 1 at San Diego Chargers T, 20-20 55,200 Sunny, 81 Week 2 OPEN Week 3 MIAMI DOLPHINS W, 26-20 79,700 Sunny, 70 Week 4 at Oakland Raiders L, 21-23 56,500 Sunny, 62 Week 5 BUFFALO BILLS L, 17-20 79,700 Sunny, 88 Home Games in ALL CAPS The Giants went 1-2-1 in the preseason. Notable Injuries going into the season: Jeremy Shockey, TE - Pulled Groin, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Looks like we'll be missing Shockey for the first game or two, but otherwise we are healthy.

09-03-2004, 11:26 PM	#35
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality #3 New York Giants Report Code: New York Giants 2004 Exhibition Season Schedule Week Opponent Result Attendance Weather Week 1 at San Diego Chargers L, 28-34 55,200 Sunny, 76 Week 2 OPEN Week 3 MIAMI DOLPHINS L, 3-27 79,700 Sunny, 67 Week 4 at Oakland Raiders L, 13-16 55,800 Rain, 65 Week 5 BUFFALO BILLS L, 20-24 78,600 Sunny, 73 Home Games in ALL CAPS Ouch. We went 0-4 in the preseason. Notable injuries going into the season: Jeff Roehl, RT - Strained Deltoid Muscle, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks. Vishante Shiancoe, TE - Strained Patellar Tendon, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks. Our starting RT and backup TE will miss a couple of games.

09-03-2004, 11:34 PM	#36
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Alternate Reality Comparison Preseason Injuries The AR2 and AR3 teams look good as far as injuries go. Both will miss 1 or 2 players for the opening game and on week 2, but no long term injuries. The AR1 team will have to make due without Keith Hamilton for most of the season. Record The AR1 team did the best going 2-2, next AR2 went 1-2-1 and then AR3 went without a win, going 0-4. As far as scoring goes, AR2 did the best being the only team to score more points than they gave up (84 PF, 83 PA). Last edited by sabotai : 09-03-2004 at 11:34 PM.

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