Possible Nuclear Testing by N. Korea.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-12-2004, 12:55 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5973861/
Came across this on MSNBC.

PsychoCop · 09-12-2004, 02:13 AM

Not like Bush & Co. could do anything. God forbid they go after a country that ACTUALLY has weapons of mass destruction.

sachmo71 · 09-12-2004, 02:39 AM

If this was a nuclear explosion, the government will know about if for sure.

Galaril · 09-12-2004, 02:58 AM

I live here in korea with my family.We were planning on re;locating back to the US next May that may get moved up. The Korean news sources are playing a wait and see the slant is so far has been oh poor suffering North Korea has had a another terrible accident maybe.... I guess either it was an test gone awry/accident or an actual test. One interesting thing to note here.Back in 2002, Kim Hyong-ik Country was one of three places suspected of being a possible site for North Korea’s uranium enrichment program. In particular, they pointed out that in the mountainous village of Yongjo-ri, site of a North Korean Daepodong 1 & 2 missile base, underground facilities were being built. Korean-U.S. intelligence didn’t know what to make of them at the time, but they were concerned.

Just sometjing to note that's all.I will keep shooting out any new info we get here from the local source.

Galaril · 09-12-2004, 03:11 AM

After checking into this more this apparently took place on friday at about 10:00 pm thurseday night EST.So, it was being kept quiet for confirmation by Washington and Seoul, that is until the NY Times metions it in the Sunday edition.Here is an interesting news blurp the day before this took place from the Russian Government.Now I know everyone is saying this wasn't a Nuke explosion but.......suspicious.

Russians say North Korea preparing to declare itself a nuclear power

stevew · 09-12-2004, 03:23 AM

I know its been said before, but i am thinking of their dictator popping up, Civesque on a big monitor in the oval office.......Our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

stevew · 09-12-2004, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoCop

Not like Bush & Co. could do anything. God forbid they go after a country that ACTUALLY has weapons of mass destruction.

Would you give up your childs life to secure Pyongyang?

Desnudo · 09-12-2004, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoCop

Not like Bush & Co. could do anything. God forbid they go after a country that ACTUALLY has weapons of mass destruction.

Not like this hasn't been a known problem well before Bush & Co. took office.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-12-2004, 08:29 AM

I've heard on a web site that the supposed 4 mile wide mushroom cloud was a ''forest fire.'' A forest fire causing a huge crater? Explainations from firefighters on whether forest fires cause craters would be appreciated.

Flasch186 · 09-12-2004, 08:51 AM

powell just said it wasnt nuclear in cause........for some reason I'm skeptical.

Dutch · 09-12-2004, 09:48 AM

Would that reason be because Powell said it and not John Kerry? I think the answer is "YES"!

The Afoci · 09-12-2004, 10:19 AM

W is for Wow that is a big hole.

CraigSca · 09-12-2004, 11:02 AM

My thinking is that it was a bad batch of methamphetamines in a bathtub.

Flasch186 · 09-12-2004, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

Would that reason be because Powell said it and not John Kerry? I think the answer is "YES"!

NO it would be because we seem to have set a precedent of making decisions too hastily and on limited information...would you not agree?

Runtheball · 09-12-2004, 11:28 AM

Its kinda funny to see the US administration scrambling to think up some stupid explanation for this, rather than just admitting it was a nuke. During the cold war we knew instantly when a nuke was tested anywhere in the world. I suspect those same detectors are pointed at North Korea right now, and have been for years. Sure Powell and Rice know what it was, but the American people can't be trusted with the truth about something like this...we're just not ready...couldn't handle it...the truth is something that only the current administration is prepared to properly deal with.

And the stories about mushroom clouds? Rice can't confirm those stories...heck, mushroom clouds are a common occurrence really...when you think about it. Ya see 'em all the time. Could've been a forest fire. And the reports of a huge explosion from the same area? Well, maybe its just a hoax. It could have been anything...maybe it was the simultaneous explosion of a bunch of trees during that forest fire.

Think of the all the political implications of N. Korea testing a nuke, and you'll begin to realize why the Bush administration is hoping this was just a forest fire.

Ryche · 09-12-2004, 11:57 AM

It's not just the administration trying to come up with excuses, it's the entire world. I don't think anyone is saying it was definitely a nuke yet. We're not the only country that has nuclear detectors. You can bet Russia and Japan have detectors pointing at North Korea as well.

Dutch · 09-12-2004, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

NO it would be because we seem to have set a precedent of making decisions too hastily and on limited information...would you not agree?

Hell, when a Republican says it was not a nuclear blast 12 years from now you would still think they are lying evil overlords.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 09-12-2004, 02:43 PM

Anyone have any pics of the creater?

Ryche · 09-17-2004, 10:45 AM

http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4986210.html

The North Koreans were building a dam. Don't always assume the worst.

damnMikeBrown · 09-17-2004, 10:56 AM

I was under the impressions that any reasonably advanced seismic detection equipment could pick up a nuclear detonation pretty much anywhere in the world.

I'm probably wrong.

Ryche · 09-17-2004, 11:05 AM

They do have detection equipment, although I'm not sure if it detects seismic activity, radiation or both.

09-12-2004, 02:13 AM	#2
PsychoCop Mascot Join Date: Mar 2002	Not like Bush & Co. could do anything. God forbid they go after a country that ACTUALLY has weapons of mass destruction. __________________ Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when I come for you?

09-12-2004, 02:58 AM	#4
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	WTF..... I live here in korea with my family.We were planning on re;locating back to the US next May that may get moved up. The Korean news sources are playing a wait and see the slant is so far has been oh poor suffering North Korea has had a another terrible accident maybe.... I guess either it was an test gone awry/accident or an actual test. One interesting thing to note here.Back in 2002, Kim Hyong-ik Country was one of three places suspected of being a possible site for North Korea’s uranium enrichment program. In particular, they pointed out that in the mountainous village of Yongjo-ri, site of a North Korean Daepodong 1 & 2 missile base, underground facilities were being built. Korean-U.S. intelligence didn’t know what to make of them at the time, but they were concerned. Just sometjing to note that's all.I will keep shooting out any new info we get here from the local source.

09-12-2004, 03:11 AM	#5
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	More info After checking into this more this apparently took place on friday at about 10:00 pm thurseday night EST.So, it was being kept quiet for confirmation by Washington and Seoul, that is until the NY Times metions it in the Sunday edition.Here is an interesting news blurp the day before this took place from the Russian Government.Now I know everyone is saying this wasn't a Nuke explosion but.......suspicious. Russians say North Korea preparing to declare itself a nuclear power Last edited by Galaril : 09-12-2004 at 03:12 AM.

09-12-2004, 03:23 AM	#6
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I know its been said before, but i am thinking of their dictator popping up, Civesque on a big monitor in the oval office.......Our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS! Last edited by stevew : 09-12-2004 at 03:24 AM.

09-12-2004, 08:29 AM	#9
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I've heard on a web site that the supposed 4 mile wide mushroom cloud was a ''forest fire.'' A forest fire causing a huge crater? Explainations from firefighters on whether forest fires cause craters would be appreciated. __________________ Toujour Pret

09-12-2004, 02:39 AM	#3
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	If this was a nuclear explosion, the government will know about if for sure.

09-12-2004, 08:51 AM	#10
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	powell just said it wasnt nuclear in cause........for some reason I'm skeptical. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

09-12-2004, 09:48 AM	#11
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Would that reason be because Powell said it and not John Kerry? I think the answer is "YES"!

09-12-2004, 10:19 AM	#12
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09-12-2004, 11:02 AM	#13
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	My thinking is that it was a bad batch of methamphetamines in a bathtub. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

09-12-2004, 11:28 AM	#15
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Its kinda funny to see the US administration scrambling to think up some stupid explanation for this, rather than just admitting it was a nuke. During the cold war we knew instantly when a nuke was tested anywhere in the world. I suspect those same detectors are pointed at North Korea right now, and have been for years. Sure Powell and Rice know what it was, but the American people can't be trusted with the truth about something like this...we're just not ready...couldn't handle it...the truth is something that only the current administration is prepared to properly deal with. And the stories about mushroom clouds? Rice can't confirm those stories...heck, mushroom clouds are a common occurrence really...when you think about it. Ya see 'em all the time. Could've been a forest fire. And the reports of a huge explosion from the same area? Well, maybe its just a hoax. It could have been anything...maybe it was the simultaneous explosion of a bunch of trees during that forest fire. Think of the all the political implications of N. Korea testing a nuke, and you'll begin to realize why the Bush administration is hoping this was just a forest fire. __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

09-12-2004, 11:57 AM	#16
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	It's not just the administration trying to come up with excuses, it's the entire world. I don't think anyone is saying it was definitely a nuke yet. We're not the only country that has nuclear detectors. You can bet Russia and Japan have detectors pointing at North Korea as well. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

09-12-2004, 02:43 PM	#18
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Anyone have any pics of the creater? __________________ Toujour Pret

09-17-2004, 10:45 AM	#19
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4986210.html The North Koreans were building a dam. Don't always assume the worst. __________________ Some knots are better left untied. Last edited by Ryche : 09-17-2004 at 10:46 AM.

09-17-2004, 10:56 AM	#20
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	I was under the impressions that any reasonably advanced seismic detection equipment could pick up a nuclear detonation pretty much anywhere in the world. I'm probably wrong.

09-17-2004, 11:05 AM	#21
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	They do have detection equipment, although I'm not sure if it detects seismic activity, radiation or both. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

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