Dont You Wish You Loved Oprah Now??

Pyser · 09-13-2004, 02:05 PM

Everyone in the the audience at a recent taping was given a friggin CAR!

rkmsuf · 09-13-2004, 02:07 PM

We're all really impressed with all your monies. Self serving jerkface.

can i have a car too?

stevew · 09-13-2004, 02:08 PM

Man, anyone got some tix?

KevinNU7 · 09-13-2004, 02:17 PM

Pontiac just wasted $7.7M

Hurst2112 · 09-13-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

Pontiac just wasted $7.7M

That could buy a lot of crack, Oprah.

Christ, think what her 20 year anniv. special will be like.

SunDancer · 09-13-2004, 03:17 PM

Is this "Oprah's big secret"?

Now if she gave away the kind of cars she has (the Bentleys, ect), then I be impressed.

This is all self-promotion by Pontiac/GM that Oprah has became famous for. Oprah's not much more then a paid advertisment now.

The_herd · 09-13-2004, 03:29 PM

Didn't Pontiac give the cars away? Not Oprah.

1st Jury Duty, now this. She's out to save the world.

SunDancer · 09-13-2004, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The_herd

Didn't Pontiac give the cars away? Not Oprah.

1st Jury Duty, now this. She's out to save the world.

Love how she is going to do a show on that. But I have to give her credit, she's a hard working women who came from the rough bottom.

rkmsuf · 09-13-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Love how she is going to do a show on that. But I have to give her credit, she's a hard working women who came from the rough bottom.

and now she's quite possibly the most annoying person on the planet. She's even figured out how to be a women.

Pyser · 09-13-2004, 03:39 PM

say what you will, but she does do some incredible things for people in need.

rkmsuf · 09-13-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

say what you will, but she does do some incredible things for people in need.

never said she didn't. she can do that and still be annoying.

Cringer · 09-13-2004, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

We're all really impressed with all your monies. Self serving jerkface.

can i have a car too?

"The cars, which retail for $28,000, were donated by Pontiac.

"A little idea grew into a big idea," Mary Henige of Pontiac told The Associated Press.

She added that Pontiac will pay for the taxes and the customizing of the cars. "

yeah, she didn't pay for them, she just has the power to get other people to give away stuff, she is still a jerkface though....

Pyser · 09-13-2004, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

never said she didn't. she can do that and still be annoying.

definitely annoying.

now excuse me while i finish my letter to her (come on new house and no more student loans!!!)

SunDancer · 09-13-2004, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

and now she's quite possibly the most annoying person on the planet. She's even figured out how to be a women.

Annoying? Yeah, but if I don't watch her show, then she isn't. What person isn't? I find your last comment to be pretty sad.

rkmsuf · 09-13-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Annoying? Yeah, but if I don't watch her show, then she isn't. What person isn't? I find your last comment to be pretty sad.

How can I argue with a statement I don't understand.

The_herd · 09-13-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

now excuse me while i finish my letter to her (come on new house and no more student loans!!!)

I was going to ask her to mow my lawn. The damn grass here in Texas growns too fast. It's annoying me.

SunDancer · 09-13-2004, 04:03 PM

Now, what was her big secret?

Cringer · 09-13-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Now, what was her big secret?

she's a man

Hurst2112 · 09-13-2004, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

she's a man

That wasn't a secret

stevew · 09-13-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

say what you will, but she does do some incredible things for people in need.

Yes, but these people didnt need a 28K car, they just needed a car. Oprah s a bigtime schill now.

bbor · 09-13-2004, 04:36 PM

Can someone phone extreme house makeovers for me?...I'd really like a new house.

Noop · 09-13-2004, 05:10 PM

I would like to have sex with Christina Milian and Mya.

Draft Dodger · 09-13-2004, 05:12 PM

geez, tough crowd.

I think it's terrific. I applaud her and I applaud Pontiac. It was a very nice thing to do, and a cool way to do it. Sorry, can't find any fault with it.

Fonzie · 09-13-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

But I have to give her credit, she's a hard working women who has a rough bottom.

lurker · 09-13-2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

geez, tough crowd.

I think it's terrific. I applaud her and I applaud Pontiac. It was a very nice thing to do, and a cool way to do it. Sorry, can't find any fault with it.

From everything I heard, these people weren't really needy. I think it's not really all that great to give things to people who aren't really poor. I mean, some of those people said they needed new cars just because their old ones were ugly! If you're going to give out cars by the truckload, how about giving them (or their value) to people who really need them?

Sheesh, this reminds me of when she gave a grocery shopping spree to some women in one of the richest suburbs in Chicago. Just think of how much more appreciated that would have been if she gave it to some family that actually, you know, needed food.

I know I don't have any right to tell her how to give away her own money, but that doesn't mean I think she should be lauded for acts such as this.

samifan24 · 09-13-2004, 05:45 PM

Anyone else find the associated Yahoo image funny? It's almost all women as far as the eye can see.

Draft Dodger · 09-13-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker

From everything I heard, these people weren't really needy. I think it's not really all that great to give things to people who aren't really poor. I mean, some of those people said they needed new cars just because their old ones were ugly! If you're going to give out cars by the truckload, how about giving them (or their value) to people who really need them?

Sheesh, this reminds me of when she gave a grocery shopping spree to some women in one of the richest suburbs in Chicago. Just think of how much more appreciated that would have been if she gave it to some family that actually, you know, needed food.

I know I don't have any right to tell her how to give away her own money, but that doesn't mean I think she should be lauded for acts such as this.

what a warped way of thinking. it's just a good deed - she's not trying to solve hunger in Africa or anything.

Tekneek · 09-13-2004, 06:52 PM

I wonder if all of them can afford the taxes. Wouldn't they all get 1090s to go along with the cars?

Draft Dodger · 09-13-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

I wonder if all of them can afford the taxes. Wouldn't they all get 1090s to go along with the cars?

per the article, Pontiac is paying the taxes and for customization of the cars.

Tekneek · 09-13-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

per the article, Pontiac is paying the taxes and for customization of the cars.

Interesting point that I missed, but I fail to see how an individual does not get tax liability out of that. Someone else paying for your taxes is a cash gift, as I understand it.

Draft Dodger · 09-13-2004, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

Interesting point that I missed, but I fail to see how an individual does not get tax liability out of that. Someone else paying for your taxes is a cash gift, as I understand it.

yeah, I don't pretend to know how all the tax laws work, but I'm sure it all does somehow. at work they have a yearly trip to somewhere warm & sunny that you can win a spot on. normally, the company pays the taxes on that trip, so you don't end up getting screwed paying big bucks for a "free" trip.

Draft Dodger · 09-13-2004, 08:17 PM

btw, this thread cursed me. we found out today that my mother needs about $2,000 worth of repairs on her car. She has neither $2000 nor enough money each month to get a new car. if only we'd written to Oprah...

RendeR · 09-13-2004, 08:55 PM

I'm assuming that even though Pontiac is paying the tax liability on each car, they will be issuing receipts to each person for income tax resolution, as long as the value is shown as paid they aren't going to incur any further tax debt for it.

SunDancer · 09-13-2004, 09:28 PM

Just curious,
Are these 2004 cars, or the new 2005?

Hurst2112 · 09-13-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

she's not trying to solve hunger in Africa or anything.

She tried that already...remember her workout and diet craze of the late 90s.

How about putting some kids from her hometown through college? Afterall, the car isn't that great to begin with.

Ajaxab · 09-13-2004, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

She tried that already...remember her workout and diet craze of the late 90s.

How about putting some kids from her hometown through college? Afterall, the car isn't that great to begin with.

My cynical take is that Oprah's giveaways are both ads for the companies from which she gets the free stuff while at the same time conveniently gaining reward points with her middle class audience. If Oprah would give away a wide variety of vehicles rather than a bunch of Pontiacs, I might be less inclined to see it so cynically.

Tekneek · 09-13-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

yeah, I don't pretend to know how all the tax laws work, but I'm sure it all does somehow. at work they have a yearly trip to somewhere warm & sunny that you can win a spot on. normally, the company pays the taxes on that trip, so you don't end up getting screwed paying big bucks for a "free" trip.

Must be nice. My employer has given those sorts of things away before, but issue a 1090 to everyone who "wins."

Draft Dodger · 09-13-2004, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek

Must be nice. My employer has given those sorts of things away before, but issue a 1090 to everyone who "wins."

they used to do that. then, a couple years ago they had a big trip somewhere (Bahamas?), and maybe half the people who qualified turned the trip down, because they couldn't afford the taxes (that would have been directly deducted from paychecks, btw). since then, they've started paying for the trips. not that I ever get to go on them...

JimboJ · 09-13-2004, 11:24 PM

It wouldn't be worth sitting through that show just for a free car.

SunDancer · 09-13-2004, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JimboJ

It wouldn't be worth sitting through that show just for a free car.

Agree. Its hard to believe she's a billionaire.

lurker · 09-14-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

what a warped way of thinking. it's just a good deed - she's not trying to solve hunger in Africa or anything.

Like I said:

I know I don't have any right to tell her how to give away her own money, but that doesn't mean I think she should be lauded for acts such as this.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with, just not anything particularly terrific either.

SunDancer · 09-14-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lurker

Like I said:

I know I don't have any right to tell her how to give away her own money, but that doesn't mean I think she should be lauded for acts such as this.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with, just not anything particularly terrific either.

Agree.

DaddyTorgo · 09-14-2004, 01:27 PM

I absolutely hate this. Even if she wasn't trying to...solve world hunger in Africa...I'm sure there were plenty more people in whatever city she tapes in that could have used a new car more than the people in the audience. Or even...homeless people? Starving people? And Oprah is giving away friggin cars to people on her TV show. Rather than raising my opinion of her, or even keeping it level, this actually dropped it, because it shows that she is SO out of touch with the real world.

Desnudo · 09-14-2004, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

How can I argue with a statement I don't understand.

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Ksyrup · 09-14-2004, 01:47 PM

I'm scratching my head at some of the comments in this thread. I can't stand Oprah just like the rest of you, but who cares if (a) the people she gave these cars to weren't destitute, or (b) the cars were donated, or frankly, just considered an advertising cost for the car company?

She arranged for 275 people to get new cars, free of charge. Regardless of who they were and why it happened, it happened. Those people are no doubt grateful, and while it's appropriate to examine the bottom line motive here, I don't see why anyone would consider this to reflect negatively on her. It's not like she went out and gathered up the owners of all major sports teams in the US and bought them Lamborghinis.

And why should someone have to go find the poorest of the poor just to do a good deed? I guess I should be criticized as well, since I've held doors open for people who aren't handicapped or on crutches...

I'm usually all for piling on people I can't stand, but I'm giving her a pass on this one. If she wants to reward her fans and a company sponsoring her sees value in giving away 275 cars, then so be it.

Glengoyne · 09-14-2004, 01:51 PM

With regard to the question asked in the thread title.

NO!!

That said, I wouldn't mind a new car.

AENeuman · 09-14-2004, 02:00 PM

Strange how high and mighty people are on charity. While the cars surely could have gone to a more "worthy" person that complaint does not seem to understand the idea of charity. Charity is not affirmative action giving.
Besides, who am I to judge someone's choices of charity. It puts me on pretty weak ground if all I did was dismiss Oprah's actions as being too little, not enough, misplaced, and do nothing about it myself.
Even if just one of the 200 plus cars went to a really needy person she has done more than I probaly ever will.

lurker · 09-14-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

...It's not like she went out and gathered up the owners of all major sports teams in the US and bought them Lamborghinis.

So if she did that it wouldn't be a good thing? It seems then you are placing an upper bound on the people she should give things to and not have it reflect negatively on her.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-14-2004, 02:29 PM

Worst. Thread. Ever.

Hurst2112 · 09-14-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Worst. Thread. Ever.

Easy there Stedmond

09-13-2004, 02:07 PM	#2
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	We're all really impressed with all your monies. Self serving jerkface. can i have a car too? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

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KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	Pontiac just wasted $7.7M __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

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SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Is this "Oprah's big secret"? Now if she gave away the kind of cars she has (the Bentleys, ect), then I be impressed. This is all self-promotion by Pontiac/GM that Oprah has became famous for. Oprah's not much more then a paid advertisment now. Last edited by SunDancer : 09-13-2004 at 03:24 PM.

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Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	say what you will, but she does do some incredible things for people in need.

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Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	I wonder if all of them can afford the taxes. Wouldn't they all get 1090s to go along with the cars?

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Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	btw, this thread cursed me. we found out today that my mother needs about $2,000 worth of repairs on her car. She has neither $2000 nor enough money each month to get a new car. if only we'd written to Oprah... __________________ Mile High Hockey

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RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm assuming that even though Pontiac is paying the tax liability on each car, they will be issuing receipts to each person for income tax resolution, as long as the value is shown as paid they aren't going to incur any further tax debt for it. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

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SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Just curious, Are these 2004 cars, or the new 2005?

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JimboJ High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2003	It wouldn't be worth sitting through that show just for a free car.

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DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I absolutely hate this. Even if she wasn't trying to...solve world hunger in Africa...I'm sure there were plenty more people in whatever city she tapes in that could have used a new car more than the people in the audience. Or even...homeless people? Starving people? And Oprah is giving away friggin cars to people on her TV show. Rather than raising my opinion of her, or even keeping it level, this actually dropped it, because it shows that she is SO out of touch with the real world.

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Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	With regard to the question asked in the thread title. NO!! That said, I wouldn't mind a new car.

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AENeuman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SF	Strange how high and mighty people are on charity. While the cars surely could have gone to a more "worthy" person that complaint does not seem to understand the idea of charity. Charity is not affirmative action giving. Besides, who am I to judge someone's choices of charity. It puts me on pretty weak ground if all I did was dismiss Oprah's actions as being too little, not enough, misplaced, and do nothing about it myself. Even if just one of the 200 plus cars went to a really needy person she has done more than I probaly ever will.

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