Enigma Puzzle #19

enigma · 09-21-2004, 01:55 PM

We've had poetry puzzles, sports puzzles, trivia puzzles... Time for a good old-fashioned math puzzle. Or not?

Find the next two in the series...

AM, EGG, JIG, LEI, PEG, PIG, ____, ____

Franklinnoble · 09-21-2004, 01:56 PM

F'ing math puzzles.

If I wanted to do math, I'd go back and finish the 7th grade...

rkmsuf · 09-21-2004, 01:58 PM

WIG, NOR

gottimd · 09-21-2004, 02:07 PM

Does it have to with Scrabble Points?

QuikSand · 09-21-2004, 02:11 PM

gottimd - perhaps you have signatures turned off? If so, you might want to take a look at the one belonging to enigma -- it explains hiw this game is played. (Just click his name - you'll go to the profile, which includes the sig)

Buzzbee · 09-21-2004, 02:13 PM

Hmmm...a math puzzle with letters. Must be that new math. I thought math had numbers. You know, 2+2=5, 3X3=12.

gottimd · 09-21-2004, 02:14 PM

I understand that, I was looking at the last one and people were guessing on the board, so I figured what the hell. Am I not supposed to do that? I see if I know the answer to log in as enigma with the answer.

Radii · 09-21-2004, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

gottimd - perhaps you have signatures turned off? If so, you might want to take a look at the one belonging to enigma -- it explains hiw this game is played. (Just click his name - you'll go to the profile, which includes the sig)

ohhhh, thanks

I have sigs off and was unaware of the rules as well, since I didn't pay attention to the first 16 or so of these.

rkmsuf · 09-21-2004, 02:16 PM

Paging Matt Damon, please report to the nearest white courtesy phone.

digamma · 09-21-2004, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottimd

I understand that, I was looking at the last one and people were guessing on the board, so I figured what the hell. Am I not supposed to do that? I see if I know the answer to log in as enigma with the answer.

Collaboration is always encouraged.

Danny · 09-21-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma

Collaboration is always encouraged.

Yep, so much so, that you should email me the answer if you think you have it solved. t I can check and make sure your answer is ok.

digamma · 09-22-2004, 09:09 AM

Bump back to the first page.

I still got nothing.

albionmoonlight · 09-22-2004, 09:19 AM

All of the letter combos are Engligh words. If that matters.

gottimd · 09-22-2004, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

All of the letter combos are Engligh words. If that matters.

Oh, I've been looking for English words.

albionmoonlight · 09-22-2004, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottimd

Oh, I've been looking for English words.

Well see, that's your problem right there.

gottimd · 09-22-2004, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Well see, that's your problem right there.

Sorry, Rookie mistake

WSUCougar · 09-22-2004, 09:54 AM

If you use the letters of the alphabet (A = 1, B = 2, etc.), each of the words creates a prime number:

AM = (1)(13) = 113
EGG = (5)(7)(7) = 577
JIG = (10)(9)(7) = 1097
LEI = (12)(5)(9) = 1259
PEG = (16)(5)(7) = 1657
PIG = (16)(9)(7) = 1697

These primes are (obviously) ranked in ascending order. I checked a list of primes, and the occuring numbers within that list are as follows:

AM = (1)(13) = 113 = 30th
EGG = (5)(7)(7) = 577 = 106th
JIG = (10)(9)(7) = 1097 = 184th
LEI = (12)(5)(9) = 1259 = 205th
PEG = (16)(5)(7) = 1657 = 260th
PIG = (16)(9)(7) = 1697 = 265th

But that's as far as I can get for now...

digamma · 09-22-2004, 11:02 AM

Combining the two thoughts, perhaps we are looking for the next two prime numbers that can be formed formed (according to the code above) from English words?

By process of elimination (using only letters that end with 1, 3, 7 or 9), we know that the final letter of the word must be A, C, G, I, K, M, Q, S, U or W. From there, we can eliminate Q (or 17) and probably K (11).

gottimd · 09-22-2004, 11:07 AM

But then what about the use of the letters P, L, J. Their numbers within this theory constitute non-prime numbers. (16,12 10)

digamma · 09-22-2004, 12:15 PM

I'm not sure if I'm barking up the wrong tree...

SEA would seem to work (19)(5)(1) = 1951
SAC would seem to work as well (19)(1)(3) = 1913 which would also be AIM (1)(9)(13)
And SIC (19)(9)(3) = 1993

QuikSand · 09-22-2004, 12:17 PM

Well, I was sure that Coug was on to it... and that I had picked up the answer. But no dice. *grumble*

QuikSand · 09-22-2004, 12:22 PM

I had tried both "sacsea" and "sacaim" with no luck. I'm now digging backward, to see if I missed something.

And now I'm out of login attempts.

gottimd · 09-22-2004, 12:22 PM

Quote:

AM = (1)(13) = 113
EGG = (5)(7)(7) = 577
JIG = (10)(9)(7) = 1097

I was thinking that the 113 would equal like 1+1+3 which equals 5, so 5 starts out the second word, which is E. Then 5+7+7 = 19 so a 10 and 9 would start out the third word, but then I was shamzammied after that.

Huckleberry · 09-22-2004, 12:25 PM

gottimd · 09-22-2004, 01:34 PM

Bump

Anyone got any ideas?

enigma · 09-22-2004, 03:39 PM

The enigma has been solved.

The next two words were AIM and SEA and the password was aimsea. The code and concept are as explained above.

09-21-2004, 01:58 PM	#3
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	WIG, NOR __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

09-21-2004, 02:07 PM	#4
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09-21-2004, 02:13 PM	#6
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Hmmm...a math puzzle with letters. Must be that new math. I thought math had numbers. You know, 2+2=5, 3X3=12. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

09-21-2004, 02:14 PM	#7
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	I understand that, I was looking at the last one and people were guessing on the board, so I figured what the hell. Am I not supposed to do that? I see if I know the answer to log in as enigma with the answer. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

09-21-2004, 02:16 PM	#9
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Paging Matt Damon, please report to the nearest white courtesy phone. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

09-21-2004, 01:56 PM	#2
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	F'ing math puzzles. If I wanted to do math, I'd go back and finish the 7th grade...

09-21-2004, 02:11 PM	#5
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	gottimd - perhaps you have signatures turned off? If so, you might want to take a look at the one belonging to enigma -- it explains hiw this game is played. (Just click his name - you'll go to the profile, which includes the sig)

09-22-2004, 09:09 AM	#12
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Bump back to the first page. I still got nothing. Last edited by digamma : 09-22-2004 at 09:10 AM.

09-22-2004, 09:19 AM	#13
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	All of the letter combos are Engligh words. If that matters.

09-22-2004, 09:54 AM	#17
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	If you use the letters of the alphabet (A = 1, B = 2, etc.), each of the words creates a prime number: AM = (1)(13) = 113 EGG = (5)(7)(7) = 577 JIG = (10)(9)(7) = 1097 LEI = (12)(5)(9) = 1259 PEG = (16)(5)(7) = 1657 PIG = (16)(9)(7) = 1697 These primes are (obviously) ranked in ascending order. I checked a list of primes, and the occuring numbers within that list are as follows: AM = (1)(13) = 113 = 30th EGG = (5)(7)(7) = 577 = 106th JIG = (10)(9)(7) = 1097 = 184th LEI = (12)(5)(9) = 1259 = 205th PEG = (16)(5)(7) = 1657 = 260th PIG = (16)(9)(7) = 1697 = 265th But that's as far as I can get for now... __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

09-22-2004, 11:02 AM	#18
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Combining the two thoughts, perhaps we are looking for the next two prime numbers that can be formed formed (according to the code above) from English words? By process of elimination (using only letters that end with 1, 3, 7 or 9), we know that the final letter of the word must be A, C, G, I, K, M, Q, S, U or W. From there, we can eliminate Q (or 17) and probably K (11).

09-22-2004, 11:07 AM	#19
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	But then what about the use of the letters P, L, J. Their numbers within this theory constitute non-prime numbers. (16,12 10) __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

09-22-2004, 12:15 PM	#20
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I'm not sure if I'm barking up the wrong tree... SEA would seem to work (19)(5)(1) = 1951 SAC would seem to work as well (19)(1)(3) = 1913 which would also be AIM (1)(9)(13) And SIC (19)(9)(3) = 1993

09-22-2004, 12:17 PM	#21
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Well, I was sure that Coug was on to it... and that I had picked up the answer. But no dice. grumble

09-22-2004, 12:22 PM	#22
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I had tried both "sacsea" and "sacaim" with no luck. I'm now digging backward, to see if I missed something. And now I'm out of login attempts. Last edited by QuikSand : 09-22-2004 at 12:25 PM.

09-22-2004, 12:25 PM	#24
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09-22-2004, 01:34 PM	#25
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Bump Anyone got any ideas? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

09-22-2004, 03:39 PM	#26
enigma H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Aug 2004	The enigma has been solved. The next two words were AIM and SEA and the password was aimsea. The code and concept are as explained above. __________________ The FOFC Enigma is a self-repeating puzzle system. If you know the answer to the current puzzle, sign on to FOFC with the username "enigma" using the answer (in all lower case letters, with no spacing) as the password. If you're right -- you control the enigma, and may post the next puzzle under that username. The person who solves the enigma should post in the puzzle thread noting both the fact that the puzzle is solved, as well as the solution to the puzzle.

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