Front Office Football Central  

Go Back   Front Office Football Central > Archives > FOFC Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Statistics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-05-2004, 09:13 AM   #1
albionmoonlight
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
Friday Fun list: Most overrated movies

I am tired of arguing over important things like the direction of this country. I would rather argue over pointless things like the most overrated movies out there. The best thing about this list is that for every movie listed--there will be someone for whom that is the greatest movie ever.

My contribution--Caddyshack. Now before you ban me from the board as a heritic, let me explain. I don't think that this was a horrible movie. And it had some funny lines and scenes--made even more impressive when you realize that a lot of it was improvised.

But I just don't get the cult that has grown around this movie. It's not that I think that it's a bad movie. I think that it's an OK movie with some good parts. It, however, is talked about like one of the greatest movies ever. I don't think that it is. Hence, overrated.

Thoughts? Other Movies?

albionmoonlight is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:17 AM   #2
John Galt
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Internets
For me, every Hitchcock movie. They lack any subtext and really don't leave anything with you at the end to think about. The fact that he is considered one of the greatest directors ever is a crime, IMO.
__________________
I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude
John Galt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:19 AM   #3
Fonzie
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Illinois
Titanic.
Fonzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:20 AM   #4
scooper
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cinn City
Lost in Translation

To me, it really was lost.
scooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:21 AM   #5
KWhit
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Conyers GA
Gladiator.
KWhit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:26 AM   #6
Peregrine
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Cary, NC
The Matrix, especially the second two. These movies threaten to collapse under the load of bombastic praise and overdone hype they receive, IMO.
Peregrine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:37 AM   #7
Buzzbee
College Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
The first two movies that immediately popped into my head were The Big Lebowski and Gladiator. Lost in Translation was the third. Glad to see there are others who agree on at least 2 of the 3.


{Confession - I only made it through about 30 minutes of The Big L before turning it off, and only about an hour of Lost in Translation, so forgive me the part that makes either of these movies any good is at the end.}
__________________
Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz
Buzzbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:38 AM   #8
sachmo71
The boy who cried Trout
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: TX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fonzie
Titanic.


Seconded. Best Picture my ass.
sachmo71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:39 AM   #9
Dawgfan1980
H.S. Freshman Team
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
I've got to go with Unbreakable, not so much that it was overrated, as much as it was overhyped... Its hard though, I mostly watch movies that I like, and it is a small percentage, but I might agree with Caddyshack as well. It left me... wanting. Major League, IMHO is much much funnier.
__________________
I still have nothing witty to say at the moment
Dawgfan1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:41 AM   #10
HornedFrog Purple
Hattrick Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Fort Worthless, Tx
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Galt
For me, every Hitchcock movie. They lack any subtext and really don't leave anything with you at the end to think about. The fact that he is considered one of the greatest directors ever is a crime, IMO.

Wow. I'll just say I disagree.

Of the ones I have watched lately, probably A Beautiful Mind.
__________________
King of All FOFC Media!!!
IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)
HornedFrog Purple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:42 AM   #11
Raiders Army
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Black Hole
The Blair Witch Project was really overrated. I'd also have to say that any Oliver Stone flick as well. I just can't stand them.
Raiders Army is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:42 AM   #12
sachmo71
The boy who cried Trout
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: TX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan1980
I've got to go with Unbreakable, not so much that it was overrated, as much as it was overhyped... Its hard though, I mostly watch movies that I like, and it is a small percentage, but I might agree with Caddyshack as well. It left me... wanting. Major League, IMHO is much much funnier.


Disagreement. I believe Unbreakable to be a prime example of bang-to-buck ratio. If I were smarter, maybe I would have figured it out earlier, but I didn't, so I was blissful in my ignorance.
sachmo71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:43 AM   #13
rkmsuf
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

My contribution--Caddyshack. Now before you ban me from the board as a heritic, let me explain. I don't think that this was a horrible movie. And it had some funny lines and scenes--made even more impressive when you realize that a lot of it was improvised.

But I just don't get the cult that has grown around this movie. It's not that I think that it's a bad movie. I think that it's an OK movie with some good parts. It, however, is talked about like one of the greatest movies ever. I don't think that it is. Hence, overrated.

Thoughts? Other Movies?

Blasphemy! I spit on your golf shoes.
__________________
"Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales
rkmsuf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:44 AM   #14
rkmsuf
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by KWhit
Gladiator.

Agreed. I hated that movie. 5 snaps down.
__________________
"Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales
rkmsuf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:51 AM   #15
Dawgfan1980
H.S. Freshman Team
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Originally Posted by sachmo71
Disagreement. I believe Unbreakable to be a prime example of bang-to-buck ratio. If I were smarter, maybe I would have figured it out earlier, but I didn't, so I was blissful in my ignorance.

Maybe I just didn't care too much about the plot line, but like I said in my post, its hard to find a movie I'm disappointed with. Well, cept for Titanic, but what guy, who likes girls, wasn't disappointed with that piles of crap? If it weren't for Kate Winslett's beautiful breasts... {Sigh} Can someone hand me some kleenex?
__________________
I still have nothing witty to say at the moment
Dawgfan1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:51 AM   #16
MJ4H
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hog Country
Unbreakable is one of my three favorite movies. I have to agree that A Beautiful Mind was over-rated. My original contribuition to this thread: Bladerunner.

(actually Im mostly kidding. Its not my type of movie at all, but I do recognize it is a very well done movie and well ahead of its time.)
MJ4H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:53 AM   #17
Dawgfan1980
H.S. Freshman Team
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
Okay, fine, I'll recant Unbreakable and put up Pretty Woman, or Ghost, or Dirty (F'n) Dancing
__________________
I still have nothing witty to say at the moment
Dawgfan1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 09:54 AM   #18
MJ4H
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hog Country
I'm down with all 3 of those being over-rated.
MJ4H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 10:21 AM   #19
sachmo71
The boy who cried Trout
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: TX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan1980
Okay, fine, I'll recant Unbreakable and put up Pretty Woman, or Ghost, or Dirty (F'n) Dancing


Layup.

You can do better.
sachmo71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 10:22 AM   #20
VPI97
Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Mystic River

It was an okay story with good acting...but, for me, the final two scenes took away any closure the movie had and invalidated the prior two hours.
VPI97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 10:55 AM   #21
WSUCougar
Rider Of Rohan
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep
Citizen Kane = best ever? You've got to be kidding me.

Spider Man = Of the comic book flicks it was one of the better ones, but that's a grossly overdone and worn out genre.

Unbreakable was disappointing to me as well.
__________________
It's not the years...it's the mileage.
WSUCougar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 10:56 AM   #22
Dawgfan1980
H.S. Freshman Team
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Originally Posted by sachmo71
Layup.

You can do better.

The Replacements? Any Given Sunday? Is that a 15 footer at least?
__________________
I still have nothing witty to say at the moment
Dawgfan1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:22 AM   #23
panerd
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: St. Louis
Fight Club: I have fallen asleep three times attempting to watch this movie. And I love Edward Norton, Rounders is one of my favorite movies of all time.

A Clockwork Orange: Maybe this is one of those movies that was ground breaking at the time or maybe I just have a simple mind, but it is just wierd not great. And you can't tell me that I don't understand Kubrick movies is the reason I don't get it because I have enjoyed everything from Dr. Strangelove to Full Metal Jacket to even Eyes Wide Shut and obviously 2001. I just don't get a clockwork orange.
panerd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:35 AM   #24
gi
College Prospect
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berkley, MI
There was a reason Lost in Translation was independant film orginally. Very artsy and subtle. I really enjoyed it but it is NOT mainstream.

I never thought of Unbreakable as rated high by anyone so how can it be overrated? Average movie IMO.

Blazing Saddles was overrated based on the cult following. Funny parts but not my favorite Mel Brooks movie.
gi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:36 AM   #25
gstelmack
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cary, NC
The Killing Fields. The only reason the Cambodian guy won best supporting actor for this movie was because he was the only one who could actually act, so he looked that much better.

I'd put Pearl Harbor ahead of Titanic, but for all the same reasons.

Sorry, I liked Gladiator.

Oh, and for those of you who hate Titanic, you must play Kung Fu Chaos on the Xbox. They have an excellent Titanic level. Well, everybody with an Xbox should play Kung Fu Chaos: my vote for most underrated video game.
__________________
-- Greg
-- Author of various FOF utilities
gstelmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:37 AM   #26
gstelmack
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cary, NC
Quote:
Originally Posted by gi
Blazing Saddles was overrated based on the cult following. Funny parts but not my favorite Mel Brooks movie.

Blasphemer! That movie is only second to The Quest for the Holy Grail in "number of times I've watched the movie and was still laughing hard at most of the jokes". Although it was much better with the extra Mongo scenes that seem to have been lost sometime in the last two decades...
__________________
-- Greg
-- Author of various FOF utilities
gstelmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:38 AM   #27
gi
College Prospect
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berkley, MI
Quote:
Originally Posted by gstelmack
Blasphemer! That movie is only second to The Quest for the Holy Grail in "number of times I've watched the movie and was still laughing hard at most of the jokes". Although it was much better with the extra Mongo scenes that seem to have been lost sometime in the last two decades...

I knew I would catch hell for that comment. To be or not to be and spaceballls are my Mel Brook favorites.
gi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:46 AM   #28
Easy Mac
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Here
Doesn't a movie have to be rated? Perhaps we shouldn't include Pearl Harbor.

Shrek... I know its for kids, but it gets love for everyone... all it is an hour and a half of fart jokes.
Easy Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:48 AM   #29
gstelmack
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cary, NC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Mac
Shrek... I know its for kids, but it gets love for everyone... all it is an hour and a half of fart jokes.

Got to agree here...
__________________
-- Greg
-- Author of various FOF utilities
gstelmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:54 AM   #30
rkmsuf
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
What's wrong with fart jokes?
__________________
"Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales
rkmsuf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 11:58 AM   #31
ntndeacon
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Alabama
Pretty Woman. Ugh! What dreck!
Citizen Kane. it was ok, but not great by any stretch.
American Beauty. Did not seem to be that good a flick.
and Finally
Fargo and Raising Arizona A lot of folks keep saying that these are their best film. NO WAY
ntndeacon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:07 PM   #32
gi
College Prospect
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berkley, MI
The Dark Crystal

Had good memories as a kid, rewatched it and boy, was I dissapointed. Maybe it is just a kids movie, but I thought I remembered that it was rated high.
gi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:07 PM   #33
Ksyrup
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: In Absentia
Broadcast News was the most unwatchable piece of garbage ever. And as a bonus, the ending sucked donkey balls. Finding Nemo was the first Albert Brooks movie I've seen since I got stuck watching that waste of film - and that's only because I didn't have to see him, I only had to listen to his voice. James L. Brooks should be ashamed of himself.

And not to pile on William Hurt, but The Accidental Tourist was a shitty movie, too.

On the other hand, for some reason I really enjoyed Lost In Translation. It stuck with me for a few days after seeing it, which I can't say about too many movies (other than the comedies whose lines I've memorized).
__________________
M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."
Ksyrup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:18 PM   #34
DeToxRox
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
Castaway ... More like GO AWAY! .. (Rimshot)

Frankly I am not a big Tom Hanks fan, but I thought Castaway was pretty lame. I dunno, it just didn't do it for me.

The Burbs was a far superior film.
DeToxRox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:26 PM   #35
MJ4H
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hog Country
Speaking of cult followings, how anyone can look at more than 30 seconds of Rocky Horror Picture Show I have no idea. And don't give me that crap about audience participation. That just makes it worse.
MJ4H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:29 PM   #36
gi
College Prospect
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berkley, MI
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman
Speaking of cult followings, how anyone can look at more than 30 seconds of Rocky Horror Picture Show I have no idea. And don't give me that crap about audience participation. That just makes it worse.

I enjoy Tim Curry. That is why I've seen it a bunch of times. Sometimes something is so bad it is good.....
gi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:33 PM   #37
Blackadar
Retired
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Fantasyland
Lost in Translation - boring. Very boring. It was "lost in translation" for me.

The English Patient - Me and Elaine Bennes from Seinfeld HATE this flick. DIE ALREADY! DIE! DIE! DIE!

Shakespeare in Love - Beat Saving Private Ryan for the Academy Award? Blasphemy!

Good Will Hunting - Decent flick, but it was like watching Ms. Doubtfire as a schoolteacher.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - I never did see what all the fuss was about.

Master and Commander: The Other Side of the World - I was stupid enough to buy this on DVD. I've watched it twice...it's dull. There's not much in it. It's more like Master and Commander of the Mill Pond.

To come to the defense on some of the ones named above...

The Blair Witch Project - It's a wonderful film ONLY if you understand the Internet marketing that went behind it. "That it was real footage that was found of 3 real missing kids." In that context, it's a wonderful movie. And for $8k (what it cost to make it), what do you expect?

Gladiator - heavy handed at times, but overall very well done. Even if you don't like it, it's still a decent action flick.

Titanic - for some reason, people think it's trendy to put this movie down. It's a great movie on many levels - 2 hours of girl flick followed by an hour of guy action flick. It's not the Best of All Time, but it is an entertaining, well-done, well-acted movie.

A Clockwork Orange - Wow. It's stylish, freaky and ironic with a social message. One of my favorites from my teenage years.

Unbreakable - I don't remember this movie being overhyped. If anything, most reviewers said it was a letdown from The Sixth Sense. I thought it was a good (not great), entertaining movie. It's the worst of the trilogy - but it's still decent.

Last edited by Blackadar : 11-05-2004 at 12:34 PM.
Blackadar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 12:42 PM   #38
Esquared1
High School JV
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Fox River Grove, IL
Top Gun
Esquared1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 04:23 PM   #39
SplitPersonality1
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Grafton, WI
Pulp Fiction - was just OK to me. Not bad by any stretch, but just OK. I still don't get all the hype. So it was a non-linear story...no biggie.

Natural Born Killers - ugh, how I hate this movie. Why did this piece of crap get so much hype when it was out.
SplitPersonality1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 04:29 PM   #40
Desnudo
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Here and There
Quote:
Originally Posted by albionmoonlight
I am tired of arguing over important things like the direction of this country. I would rather argue over pointless things like the most overrated movies out there. The best thing about this list is that for every movie listed--there will be someone for whom that is the greatest movie ever.

My contribution--Caddyshack. Now before you ban me from the board as a heritic, let me explain. I don't think that this was a horrible movie. And it had some funny lines and scenes--made even more impressive when you realize that a lot of it was improvised.

But I just don't get the cult that has grown around this movie. It's not that I think that it's a bad movie. I think that it's an OK movie with some good parts. It, however, is talked about like one of the greatest movies ever. I don't think that it is. Hence, overrated.

Thoughts? Other Movies?

It's talked about like it's one of the greatest movies ever because of all the memorable quotes. If you play golf, you're going to hear at least a handful of Caddyshack quotes everytime you play.

I agree about Gladiator. Opening fight scene was great, I'm thinking it's a Roman Braveheart, then a snooze fest with a dopey ending.

Last edited by Desnudo : 11-05-2004 at 04:30 PM.
Desnudo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 04:34 PM   #41
Franklinnoble
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Placerville, CA
Pulp Fiction
Franklinnoble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 04:51 PM   #42
MrBug708
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
Any Taratino movie. They all suck ass
MrBug708 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 06:01 PM   #43
Cringer
Grizzled Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edinburg,TX
the last several (or 10?) James Bond flicks.....
__________________
You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!
Cringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 06:06 PM   #44
mckerney
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Lord of the Rings movies
James Bond movies
mckerney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 06:17 PM   #45
Sharpieman
Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05)
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Palo Alto, CA
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
__________________
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Sharpieman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 07:23 PM   #46
sterlingice
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Back in Houston!
I dunno. Many of these movies listed really aren't that popular. Caddyshack was a great example an I guess, Titanic was big for a while but now it's "that movie that was really overrated" in backlash-esque fashion. Lost In Translation won't be remembered in 10 years except by the biggest of art house geeks and even Gladiator, was big at the time, but when was the last time anyone talked about it? Pulp Fiction or Spider Man, those are movies that people have built huge followings around (due mainly to subsequent Tarantino movies and Spiderman sequels).

SI
__________________
Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out!

Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!"
Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"


sterlingice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 07:27 PM   #47
Travis
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Canada eh
I'll third the motion of Crouching Tiger

swap everybody who said Pulp Fiction :P

and I'll submit Natural Born Killers, horrible flick as far as I was concerned.
Travis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 07:37 PM   #48
Buccaneer
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Colorado
My top 2:

Matrix (all 3)
Bull Durham

plus...

Any Taratino movie
Any Bogart movie
Any art house, indie movie

I have to agree with Easy Mac on Pearl Habor. I really don't think anyone rated that movie high enough to become overrated.
Buccaneer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 08:06 PM   #49
WSUCougar
Rider Of Rohan
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep
Quote:
Originally Posted by mckerney
Lord of the Rings movies
Bite thy tongue, Balrog breath.
__________________
It's not the years...it's the mileage.
WSUCougar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2004, 08:37 PM   #50
Tigercat
College Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Federal Way, WA
My new thought into this thread: Remember the Titans. I enjoyed the movie, and thought it was pretty well done, but I've seen lots of people put the movie in the top 5s of sports movies and I just can't agree. As big of a fan of Denzel as I am, I just can't find anything in the movie that stands out, it just seems solid from begining to end and thats it.

Others mentioned:
Clockwork Orange: Count me among the Kubrick fans that do not like this movie. I think A.I. (which unlike some, I believe it actually makes for a Kubrick vision) is the polar opposite, the Kubrick film that is underappreciated by the masses and many critics.
Beautiful mind: Crowes performance is good, but overrated. The film itself is good but nothing stellar.

Lost in Translation is one of my favorite movies of all time, but its not for everyone. If it doesn't click with you, its hard to get a feel on and watch.

I had a similiar experience with Adaptation. I liked Being John M. and loved Eternal Sunshine, but Adaptation never clicked with me beyond being able to see a few great acting performances. I couldn't even get past an hour of Adaptation.
Tigercat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 AM.



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.