USA Div 5 IM ques..?

thenereus · 11-07-2004, 11:45 AM

Okay, some of you have said that my passable PM IM's won't cut it in Div V. (1) So, I ask you what stats do my IM's need to have to compete in Div V? (Solid/solid...stam/pm)
(2) I still have $150k in the positive, so I wondering if I could make any kind of stand in Div V if I send it all on 2-3 IM's?

Note: I am in V.13 (Dark Angelss) and currently makeing money every 2 weeks, but it is only about 10-15k.

Thank you all, and if you need to see my team it is in the "How's my team shaping up" thread.

Thank,
thenereus

mckerney · 11-07-2004, 11:59 AM

My guess is that unless you have formidables at mid your gonna have trouble winning your series. My startings mids are Outstanding - Brilliant - Magnificent and I won't be winning my series this seasons.

figofamz · 11-07-2004, 01:48 PM

well some of it has to do with how strong your series is. But if mckerney has out -bril-mag for his midfield at division V and cant win his series without a breeze whats gonna happen when he goes to div IV. he can only make such big improvements to ur midfield as it is already without spending a couple millions. I was thinking that a formidable and 2 outstandings cud hold u up in Div IV but i guess it all depends on how strong it is.

Vince · 11-07-2004, 01:50 PM

I've got World Class - Brilliant - Brilliant midfielders, and my midfield is probably no better than 7th in my series (IV.3). I do happen to be in one of the better IV series', but it's still a little frustrating

As for V -- it really depends upon your series, thenerus. Let me go take a look...

Vince · 11-07-2004, 01:59 PM

Dola -

Ok -- it looks like you have yourself a pretty competitive V series. Seems as though you took over your team sometime between last sunday and now -- so you're probably going to have a very tough time trying to compete against Jayhawks and StreetRacers. Some of the other teams, like S.P. Dayton, have some exceptional ratings on the field (Dayton's defense would probably be one of the best in my series!), but not much in the way of midfield. If you can get yourself some Excellent forwards, you should be able to hang. However, with only $150k, you're looking at spending nearly all of it in one place, and only for one player. I don't think that's such a good idea. I'd set up a solid training program, and worry about improving the team dramatically once you've sold a couple of trainees.

For now, just focus on hanging up in V. You should be able to beat Tantric Tadpoles, and with some luck you could have a match with Black Jaguars and wild roziks. Good luck man!

thenereus · 11-07-2004, 02:18 PM

I already have all of my traniess and a passable coach. :-)

daedalus · 11-08-2004, 12:01 AM

Just my opinions (and I happen to be frequently different than most) . . .

What you need will depend on what your serie-mates have and what you are doing. In my opinion, what you need has more to do with your serie than your division. To me, your first aim should be to be competitive with the 3rd and 4th best teams in the serie and at least be able to take a point from them each game (this, obviously, predicate on your taking care of the bottom teams). That will give you time to let your training system and roster mature and not be dropped.

Keep an eye on the top 4 teams in your serie. Track their ratings across multiple games, road and home, midfield AND offenses/defenses. That will give you an idea of what you will need to compete there. Improve toward being able to take care of them while always keeping your own training system in mind.

Two things I want to bring up, though. One, when next you upgrade your coach, pay extra and get the solid coach. Even if you have to go with the lower leadership one. And in the meanwhile, keep an eye on coach trainees (solid+ experience and inadequate+ leadership). Two, always try to make sure that your midfielders have excellent stamina. You are sacrificing quite a bit of performance and probably about 1/2 star between solid and excellent stamina in an inner midfielder.

Good luck. And, remember, Hattrick is a marathon and not a sprint.

finkenst · 11-08-2004, 04:53 PM

i have brilliant-brilliant-formidable ..

i started this season with out-out-formidable and am the class of my series in midfield. I also sport the best two forwards, but my defense still lacks a bit, but that's on the docket after the next set of trainees.

i'm in v.181, btw.

Coffee Warlord · 11-08-2004, 05:47 PM

Good god. Outstandings and such in V?

Times have changed.

Tellistto · 11-08-2004, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Good god. Outstandings and such in V?

Times have changed.

There are at the very least 3 magnificent IM's in my V series. My whole team is almost nothing but solids, have nothing over that except my two keepers. That will change next season though...but not by a whole lot.

Tell

Coffee Warlord · 11-08-2004, 06:24 PM

Lordy. I dominated V with I think form/excellent/excellent midfielders, a solid/passable forward duo, and like...passables elsewhere.

'Course, now I pull a 217 rating this week, the 22nd best rating in all of IV, and I still lose. Go figure.

blackout · 11-08-2004, 09:34 PM

i won a series once with a solid-solid-solid-solid TMW....

but now I have a outstanding-mag-mag, so really it all depends on the series

Mr. Wednesday · 11-08-2004, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Good god. Outstandings and such in V?

Times have changed.

I had outstanding/outstanding/experienced solid when I promoted after season 22, and that wasn't the best midfield in my (somewhat above average) series -- I was lucky to get out of there.

Edit: Blackout's in my old series now, so he can tell you how (or whether) it's gotten better. He replaces the aforementioned team that had a better midfield, the team that I beat in a qually was a hair worse then me when I went up.

blackout · 11-09-2004, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I had outstanding/outstanding/experienced solid when I promoted after season 22, and that wasn't the best midfield in my (somewhat above average) series -- I was lucky to get out of there.

Edit: Blackout's in my old series now, so he can tell you how (or whether) it's gotten better. He replaces the aforementioned team that had a better midfield, the team that I beat in a qually was a hair worse then me when I went up.

there is 1 tea mwith a better midfield, but its a midfield heavy team and I beat them once... The #3 team also has a good midfield.

so, to have a crummy midfield in V.84 would mean you couldnt finish top 3, however, the 4 spot would very much be up for grabs... no one else really has anything. you can definately stay up with all solids.

Mr. Wednesday · 11-09-2004, 02:15 PM

Which team is the midfield-heavy one, Matza Men?

blackout · 11-09-2004, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Which team is the midfield-heavy one, Matza Men?

yea he put up a passable (new) last week...

ole put up a weak

I put up an inad on MOTS, poor (very high) on PIC....

...i really want to run the table, but team spirit might cause some issues

Jets80 · 11-09-2004, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finkenst

i have brilliant-brilliant-formidable ..

i started this season with out-out-formidable and am the class of my series in midfield. I also sport the best two forwards, but my defense still lacks a bit, but that's on the docket after the next set of trainees.

i'm in v.181, btw.

What team are you in V.181? I won v.181 last year. And oh yea...for the purpose of this thread I had an all outstanding midfield.

Jets80 · 11-09-2004, 10:07 PM

Dola... nevermind.... I looked you up. I see you were the demoted team from IV. you took my spot....Good luck this year.

finkenst · 11-09-2004, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jets80

What team are you in V.181? I won v.181 last year. And oh yea...for the purpose of this thread I had an all outstanding midfield.

well, you see...

this is my hint: I know you went to iv.60.

	Team	Played	Goals			Points
1.	CC FC	4	17	-	5	12

11-07-2004, 01:50 PM	#4
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I've got World Class - Brilliant - Brilliant midfielders, and my midfield is probably no better than 7th in my series (IV.3). I do happen to be in one of the better IV series', but it's still a little frustrating As for V -- it really depends upon your series, thenerus. Let me go take a look... __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

11-07-2004, 01:59 PM	#5
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Dola - Ok -- it looks like you have yourself a pretty competitive V series. Seems as though you took over your team sometime between last sunday and now -- so you're probably going to have a very tough time trying to compete against Jayhawks and StreetRacers. Some of the other teams, like S.P. Dayton, have some exceptional ratings on the field (Dayton's defense would probably be one of the best in my series!), but not much in the way of midfield. If you can get yourself some Excellent forwards, you should be able to hang. However, with only $150k, you're looking at spending nearly all of it in one place, and only for one player. I don't think that's such a good idea. I'd set up a solid training program, and worry about improving the team dramatically once you've sold a couple of trainees. For now, just focus on hanging up in V. You should be able to beat Tantric Tadpoles, and with some luck you could have a match with Black Jaguars and wild roziks. Good luck man! __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

11-09-2004, 02:15 PM	#15
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Which team is the midfield-heavy one, Matza Men? __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

11-07-2004, 11:59 AM	#2
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	My guess is that unless you have formidables at mid your gonna have trouble winning your series. My startings mids are Outstanding - Brilliant - Magnificent and I won't be winning my series this seasons.

11-07-2004, 01:48 PM	#3
figofamz Mascot Join Date: Feb 2004	well some of it has to do with how strong your series is. But if mckerney has out -bril-mag for his midfield at division V and cant win his series without a breeze whats gonna happen when he goes to div IV. he can only make such big improvements to ur midfield as it is already without spending a couple millions. I was thinking that a formidable and 2 outstandings cud hold u up in Div IV but i guess it all depends on how strong it is.

11-07-2004, 02:18 PM	#6
thenereus n00b Join Date: Aug 2004	I already have all of my traniess and a passable coach. :-)

11-08-2004, 12:01 AM	#7
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	Just my opinions (and I happen to be frequently different than most) . . . What you need will depend on what your serie-mates have and what you are doing. In my opinion, what you need has more to do with your serie than your division. To me, your first aim should be to be competitive with the 3rd and 4th best teams in the serie and at least be able to take a point from them each game (this, obviously, predicate on your taking care of the bottom teams). That will give you time to let your training system and roster mature and not be dropped. Keep an eye on the top 4 teams in your serie. Track their ratings across multiple games, road and home, midfield AND offenses/defenses. That will give you an idea of what you will need to compete there. Improve toward being able to take care of them while always keeping your own training system in mind. Two things I want to bring up, though. One, when next you upgrade your coach, pay extra and get the solid coach. Even if you have to go with the lower leadership one. And in the meanwhile, keep an eye on coach trainees (solid+ experience and inadequate+ leadership). Two, always try to make sure that your midfielders have excellent stamina. You are sacrificing quite a bit of performance and probably about 1/2 star between solid and excellent stamina in an inner midfielder. Good luck. And, remember, Hattrick is a marathon and not a sprint.

11-08-2004, 04:53 PM	#8
finkenst College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: usually sunny SoCal	i have brilliant-brilliant-formidable .. i started this season with out-out-formidable and am the class of my series in midfield. I also sport the best two forwards, but my defense still lacks a bit, but that's on the docket after the next set of trainees. i'm in v.181, btw.

11-08-2004, 05:47 PM	#9
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Good god. Outstandings and such in V? Times have changed.

11-08-2004, 06:24 PM	#11
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Lordy. I dominated V with I think form/excellent/excellent midfielders, a solid/passable forward duo, and like...passables elsewhere. 'Course, now I pull a 217 rating this week, the 22nd best rating in all of IV, and I still lose. Go figure.

11-08-2004, 09:34 PM	#12
blackout Mascot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fenway Park, above home plate	i won a series once with a solid-solid-solid-solid TMW.... but now I have a outstanding-mag-mag, so really it all depends on the series

11-09-2004, 10:07 PM	#18
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	Dola... nevermind.... I looked you up. I see you were the demoted team from IV. you took my spot....Good luck this year.

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