Mike Vick = Randall Cunningham

nilodor · 11-20-2004, 05:50 PM

Now that Vick has been around for a while and is starting to show what he can do the question is how far do you think he can go? Do you think he will be another Randall Cunningham type player, amazing at times but pretty much just better than average with tremendous potential? Where do you guys think his career will go?

mckerney · 11-20-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nilodor

amazing at times but pretty much just better than average with tremendous potential?

As I've said before, he's average if you look at the stats he puts up, but the team wins when he's on the field, which matters more than throwing 4 TDs.

The_herd · 11-20-2004, 06:02 PM

I wouldn't compare him to Cunningham. Cunningham was more concerned with Cunningham's stats than anything else. His ego kept him from being a better player. Stats seem to be the last thing on Vick's mind when he plays.

Hates_Cakesniffers · 11-20-2004, 07:12 PM

Until Vick learns how to punt/quick kick he'll never be the complete package Cunningham was.

Philliesfan980 · 11-20-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hates_Cakesniffers

Until Vick learns how to punt/quick kick he'll never be the complete package Cunningham was.

I remember one time against Buffalo (I think) Cunningham punted the ball 90 yards. Great stuff.

condors · 11-20-2004, 08:43 PM

well randal cunningham was a strange bird but before his injuries he carried an offense with no running game no offensive line our goto guys were keith byars (fullback) and keith jackson(tight end) calvin williams and fred barrnet were not bad but not probowl cailbur either....he did throw 30 touchdown passes and run for over 900 yeards the last year before he got crumpled vs green bay...he was never the same after that, he may have cared about his stats but he did everything he could to win

Sun Tzu · 11-20-2004, 08:55 PM

The grammar police must have taken the night off.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-20-2004, 09:11 PM

Bah! None of them compare to Anthony Wright.

CraigSca · 11-21-2004, 10:07 AM

If Buddy Ryan didn't believe that an offensive line was a necessary evil, Randall Cunningham's career could have been drastically different.

Philliesfan980 · 11-21-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

If Buddy Ryan didn't believe that an offensive line was a necessary evil, Randall Cunningham's career could have been drastically different.

Are you telling me you don't think David Alexander, Mike Schad, and Ron Heller were professional players

Darkiller · 11-21-2004, 12:53 PM

At this point, it's tough to know wether he'll end up being closer to a Randall Cunningham or a Steve Young.

Klinglerware · 11-21-2004, 07:18 PM

The difference between Cunningham and Vick (so far, anyway) was that Buddy Ryan never concerned himself with developing Cunningham as a quarterback, more or less letting him do his thing on gameday. But then again, they didn't have much of a choice with such a horrid offensive line. Antone Davis... remember him?

It seems that the coaches are going the opposite route with Vick, imposing the west-coast system on him to the point that it might be stifling some of his ad-libbing ability.

11-20-2004, 06:02 PM	#3
The_herd College Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Fort Lackland, Texas (San Antonio)	I wouldn't compare him to Cunningham. Cunningham was more concerned with Cunningham's stats than anything else. His ego kept him from being a better player. Stats seem to be the last thing on Vick's mind when he plays. __________________ Oakland Raiders: HFL's 1970 AC West Champs

11-20-2004, 08:55 PM	#7
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	The grammar police must have taken the night off. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

11-20-2004, 09:11 PM	#8
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Bah! None of them compare to Anthony Wright. __________________ Toujour Pret

11-21-2004, 10:07 AM	#9
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	If Buddy Ryan didn't believe that an offensive line was a necessary evil, Randall Cunningham's career could have been drastically different. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

11-21-2004, 12:53 PM	#11
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	At this point, it's tough to know wether he'll end up being closer to a Randall Cunningham or a Steve Young. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

11-20-2004, 07:12 PM	#4
Hates_Cakesniffers n00b Join Date: Nov 2004	Until Vick learns how to punt/quick kick he'll never be the complete package Cunningham was.

11-20-2004, 08:43 PM	#6
condors College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	well randal cunningham was a strange bird but before his injuries he carried an offense with no running game no offensive line our goto guys were keith byars (fullback) and keith jackson(tight end) calvin williams and fred barrnet were not bad but not probowl cailbur either....he did throw 30 touchdown passes and run for over 900 yeards the last year before he got crumpled vs green bay...he was never the same after that, he may have cared about his stats but he did everything he could to win

11-21-2004, 07:18 PM	#12
Klinglerware College Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The DMV	The difference between Cunningham and Vick (so far, anyway) was that Buddy Ryan never concerned himself with developing Cunningham as a quarterback, more or less letting him do his thing on gameday. But then again, they didn't have much of a choice with such a horrid offensive line. Antone Davis... remember him? It seems that the coaches are going the opposite route with Vick, imposing the west-coast system on him to the point that it might be stifling some of his ad-libbing ability.

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