I hope Joey gets benched

JeffNights · 11-20-2004, 09:30 PM

I really do, i have never had any confidence whatsoever in Joey Harrington.

I'm much more like to see Mike McMahon get the reins for the rest of the season.

I hate how the sports radio here thinks McMahon is nothing...what chance has he ever had? Dont gimmie that bullshit stint as a starter two seasons ago eithier, absolutely no talent around him on one of the shiitiest Lions teams ever.

In the preseason, McMahon showed some serious armstrength, as well as the ever constant athleteism, the boy can move. at least he can make plays with his feet alone.

Teams constantly blitz Joey because they know his first reaction is just to sling the ball outta there..... maybe at the very least with McMahon after he breaks a couple nice scrambles, it'll force the opposing D to be honest.

Ah well, bottom line is Harrington is NOT the answer.

cmp · 11-20-2004, 09:35 PM

I hope Joey doesn't get benched. McMahon is horrible.

TLK · 11-20-2004, 09:48 PM

Naaa.... we need to stick with Joey. I'll revisit this after Sunday's game....

JeffNights · 11-20-2004, 09:53 PM

Fools!

how many horrible perfomances do you need?

even look at when he was SUPPOSEDLY playing well....

ROY WILLIAMS had to make a great catch on half his throws

GrantDawg · 11-20-2004, 10:48 PM

Didn't someone on this board say just a few weeks ago that Harrington is a "real winner QB" whereas Vick is only a "8-8" Qb?

DeToxRox · 11-20-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Didn't someone on this board say just a few weeks ago that Harrington is a "real winner QB" whereas Vick is only a "8-8" Qb?

No. I said that for this year and next, I'd want Harrington because (up until the last two weeks) he'd shown me he could win.

Vick is benefiting from the NFC South, because without playing in that division the Falcons are a borderline Wildcard team.

He's inconsistent, and now Joey, who was doing fine, is playing just as inconsistent.

Frankly, at this point, I wouldn't want either. I'd be fine with a Trent Green.

VPI97 · 11-20-2004, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Vick is benefiting from the NFC South, because without playing in that division the Falcons are a borderline Wildcard team.

The Falcons are 5-2 outside of their division. How that is 'borderline wildcard' is beyond me.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

The Falcons are 5-2 outside of their division. How that is 'borderline wildcard' is beyond me.

It helps they're also in the NFC. So maybe it's a bad assumption to make. But how about we put them in the AFC South for Tennessee.

Now they're definetly a borderline WC team.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-21-2004, 12:16 AM

I hope Blue Skies doesn't get benched...

Honolulu_Blue · 11-21-2004, 12:23 AM

As a Lions fan I can't see why you'd want this. Don't you want Joey to come out of this tail-spin, turn things around, and became the QB we hoped he would be when we drafted him third overall or whatever?

bbor · 11-21-2004, 12:26 AM

Don't say shit like that...he's my starting QB in a yahoo pool

clintl · 11-21-2004, 12:37 AM

Elway would never have had a chance to become a Hall of Famer if coaches and fans were as impatient with their young QBs 20 years ago as they are now.

BigJohn&TheLions · 11-21-2004, 12:44 AM

Is there any link between the fact that most of Joey's throws are behind the receiver and that EVERY reciever that he throws to gets hurt? Roy Williams made Joey look good just because he is good enough to go get almost anything thrown relativly near him. Most good QB's put the ball where the receiver can do something with it. Joey looks awful since Roy got banged up. Why? Because even though his arm is just about as naturally talented an arm as you can get, he just isn't a great QB.

I was not happy with the Lions drafting him in the 1st place, but was willing to give him a shot. Joey hasn't done anything in the time he has been with the Lions that should guarantee him a future with the franchise. Look at what he said this week about McMahon getting some snaps in practice... "Maybe it'll light a fire under me." (I think that is an accurate quote, if I missed a word I am sorry) I want a guy wo won't just shrug his shoulders and say "Whatever" when his job is on the line due to his performance. I want a guy who is willing to take the blame and say "Well I haven't been playing as well as I need to. I need to pick it up. This is my team, and I intend on leading it to a championship. But if I want a ring I have to start playing better starting this Sunday, or else this team has to do what it has to do." I don't see that from Joey... I see a guy who enjoys playing the piano more than playing QB...

That said, he'll probably be a star if the Lions dump him.

MikeVic · 11-21-2004, 02:10 AM

Yeah, I've never even watched an episode yet. I don't care too much for Friends either actually.

GrantDawg · 11-21-2004, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

It helps they're also in the NFC. So maybe it's a bad assumption to make. But how about we put them in the AFC South for Tennessee.

Now they're definetly a borderline WC team.

Yup, when facts don't work you can just keep making stuff up. Oh well. We Falcons fans will enjoy watching the playoffs while you and "winner" Joey can sit on the couch thinking how much better he is.

Blackadar · 11-21-2004, 07:32 AM

I think Harrington is a very good player. Unfortunately, he's been on a crappy team with lousy skill players until this year. Now the Lions have some good skill players, but they're all very young and need some time to develop some cohesion.

I'm a Steelers fan and I think if Big Ben didn't have the veteran offense around him, he would have performed far worse than he has.

As far as the Vick/Harrington thing, there's no comparision. Vick, all the way.

TLK · 11-21-2004, 11:13 AM

ok, prediction time....

Harrington vs. Minnesota today:

12 of 25, 168 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Router Help · 11-21-2004, 12:00 PM

I like McMahon, he's very exciting, he's like our scaled down version Vick. Unfortunately, I don't think McMahon is very good. Even worse, I don't think Harrington is the answer either. I don't know what his contract situation is, but I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions try to get someone like Kitna this off season.

Router Help · 11-21-2004, 12:04 PM

EDDIE DRUMMOND FOR QB!

TLK · 11-21-2004, 12:07 PM

and then they do that.....

TLK · 11-21-2004, 12:18 PM

nice little run by Harrington..

TLK · 11-21-2004, 03:01 PM

maybe we should give McMahon a shot.....

Joe · 11-21-2004, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLionKing

ok, prediction time....

Harrington vs. Minnesota today:

12 of 25, 168 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

not a bad prediction at all... 12 of 19, 91 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Actually I think you were giving Harrington too much credit.

JeffNights · 11-21-2004, 04:38 PM

Be very interesting what Marruchi says in the press conference, i searched local channels and didnt see it..

11-21-2004, 12:16 AM	#9
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I hope Blue Skies doesn't get benched... __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

11-21-2004, 12:23 AM	#10
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	As a Lions fan I can't see why you'd want this. Don't you want Joey to come out of this tail-spin, turn things around, and became the QB we hoped he would be when we drafted him third overall or whatever? __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

11-21-2004, 12:26 AM	#11
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Don't say shit like that...he's my starting QB in a yahoo pool __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

11-21-2004, 12:44 AM	#13
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	Is there any link between the fact that most of Joey's throws are behind the receiver and that EVERY reciever that he throws to gets hurt? Roy Williams made Joey look good just because he is good enough to go get almost anything thrown relativly near him. Most good QB's put the ball where the receiver can do something with it. Joey looks awful since Roy got banged up. Why? Because even though his arm is just about as naturally talented an arm as you can get, he just isn't a great QB. I was not happy with the Lions drafting him in the 1st place, but was willing to give him a shot. Joey hasn't done anything in the time he has been with the Lions that should guarantee him a future with the franchise. Look at what he said this week about McMahon getting some snaps in practice... "Maybe it'll light a fire under me." (I think that is an accurate quote, if I missed a word I am sorry) I want a guy wo won't just shrug his shoulders and say "Whatever" when his job is on the line due to his performance. I want a guy who is willing to take the blame and say "Well I haven't been playing as well as I need to. I need to pick it up. This is my team, and I intend on leading it to a championship. But if I want a ring I have to start playing better starting this Sunday, or else this team has to do what it has to do." I don't see that from Joey... I see a guy who enjoys playing the piano more than playing QB... That said, he'll probably be a star if the Lions dump him. __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?"

11-21-2004, 07:32 AM	#16
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	I think Harrington is a very good player. Unfortunately, he's been on a crappy team with lousy skill players until this year. Now the Lions have some good skill players, but they're all very young and need some time to develop some cohesion. I'm a Steelers fan and I think if Big Ben didn't have the veteran offense around him, he would have performed far worse than he has. As far as the Vick/Harrington thing, there's no comparision. Vick, all the way. Last edited by Blackadar : 11-21-2004 at 07:33 AM.

11-20-2004, 09:35 PM	#2
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	I hope Joey doesn't get benched. McMahon is horrible.

11-20-2004, 09:48 PM	#3
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Naaa.... we need to stick with Joey. I'll revisit this after Sunday's game....

11-20-2004, 09:53 PM	#4
JeffNights College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan	Fools! how many horrible perfomances do you need? even look at when he was SUPPOSEDLY playing well.... ROY WILLIAMS had to make a great catch on half his throws

11-20-2004, 10:48 PM	#5
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Didn't someone on this board say just a few weeks ago that Harrington is a "real winner QB" whereas Vick is only a "8-8" Qb?

11-21-2004, 12:37 AM	#12
clintl College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Davis, CA	Elway would never have had a chance to become a Hall of Famer if coaches and fans were as impatient with their young QBs 20 years ago as they are now.

11-21-2004, 02:10 AM	#14
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Yeah, I've never even watched an episode yet. I don't care too much for Friends either actually.

11-21-2004, 11:13 AM	#17
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	ok, prediction time.... Harrington vs. Minnesota today: 12 of 25, 168 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

11-21-2004, 12:00 PM	#18
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	I like McMahon, he's very exciting, he's like our scaled down version Vick. Unfortunately, I don't think McMahon is very good. Even worse, I don't think Harrington is the answer either. I don't know what his contract situation is, but I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions try to get someone like Kitna this off season.

11-21-2004, 12:04 PM	#19
Router Help Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ferndale, MI now in Chicago, IL	EDDIE DRUMMOND FOR QB!

11-21-2004, 12:07 PM	#20
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	and then they do that.....

11-21-2004, 12:18 PM	#21
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	nice little run by Harrington..

11-21-2004, 03:01 PM	#22
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	maybe we should give McMahon a shot.....

11-21-2004, 04:38 PM	#24
JeffNights College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan	Be very interesting what Marruchi says in the press conference, i searched local channels and didnt see it..

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