CFL may be more popular in the US than the NHL

Karim · 11-21-2004, 10:36 PM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ports/Football

The 92nd Grey Cup was played today and won by the Toronto Argonauts...
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story.asp?id=105482 ... and from what I'm hearing from the media, was shown in more places than ever before, including Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

GoldenEagle · 11-21-2004, 10:45 PM

Contienntal Football League? Cool

SunDancer · 11-21-2004, 10:49 PM

Question,
Why do the BC Lions decide to go with the backup, and not start Casey Printers, the best athlete and most exciting player with amazing talent, and MVP of the CFL this year, in the biggest game?

MikeVic · 11-21-2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Question,
Why do the BC Lions decide to go with the backup, and not start Casey Printers, the best athlete and most exciting player with amazing talent, and MVP of the CFL this year, in the biggest game?

In my opinion, Buono didn't want to make it seem like Dickenson lost his starting job because of injury.. even though Printers still started when Dickenson was healthy. He also wanted a more experienced guy there for the Grey Cup.. someone who's been there before.

If I were coach, I have no idea who I'd start.

SunDancer · 11-21-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

In my opinion, Buono didn't want to make it seem like Dickenson lost his starting job because of injury.. even though Printers still started when Dickenson was healthy. He also wanted a more experienced guy there for the Grey Cup.. someone who's been there before.

If I were coach, I have no idea who I'd start.

Yeah, but he didn't use Printers at all. Printers give you a double threat. Printers was MVP (I believe), but atleast first-team CFL. I love the Grey CUP, lots of Hype (but not the NFL way-corporate style and all entertainment blastout-CFL is on the game), and the Novemeber "possible snow" weather.

MikeVic · 11-21-2004, 11:04 PM

I believe Printers was Most Outstanding Offensive Player. Of course now this will be brought up when they talk about B.C. not winning it.

stevew · 11-22-2004, 12:10 AM

I daresay i would probably get into the CFL if i ever knew when it was on, and who some of the players are. Now that the league has abandoned its 25% RoughRider mascot policy, i believe i can take it a bit more seriously. Wasnt Dickinson in the NFL either last year, or the year before, but he couldnt earn the job for the Chargers? I really wish this league would start around the end of the NFL season so we could truly have a spring football league worth watching.

Zippo · 11-22-2004, 12:43 AM

Printers was injured last game and his shoulder was not 100% during practice, however he should have at least came off the bench.

stevew · 11-22-2004, 12:45 AM

Whats a good team to cheer for in the CFL. Besides Toronto. Who has a history of Excellence? Edmonton maybe?

stevew · 11-22-2004, 12:49 AM

Someone needs to start a CFL Fantasy Football league next season. I'd definately be down to play that. I'm guessing, tho, with only 9 teams, it would mean that you probably could only have like a 6 person league.

stevew · 11-22-2004, 01:03 AM

How does a league run with an odd number of teams. Do some teams get more bye weeks than others? Im looking on the site and it appears that the season takes place over 20 weeks, and each team plays 18 games. The schedule makes no sense to me from a logic standpoint. It would appear that there would need to be 20 "bye weeks" but if each of the 9 teams gets 2 weeks off a year, there are 2 weeks where no team would be off. Even tho somone has to be off

ISiddiqui · 11-22-2004, 01:07 AM

Maybe they just have the Roughriders play themselves and hope that everyone will still think there is more than one team with that nickname

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TLK · 11-22-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

How does a league run with an odd number of teams. Do some teams get more bye weeks than others? Im looking on the site and it appears that the season takes place over 20 weeks, and each team plays 18 games. The schedule makes no sense to me from a logic standpoint. It would appear that there would need to be 20 "bye weeks" but if each of the 9 teams gets 2 weeks off a year, there are 2 weeks where no team would be off. Even tho somone has to be off

on weeks that everyone plays.... a team plays twice, like on tuesday and then again on Sunday...

vex · 11-22-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Contienntal Football League? Cool

That TV deal is doing wonders!

Fidatelo · 11-22-2004, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Whats a good team to cheer for in the CFL. Besides Toronto. Who has a history of Excellence? Edmonton maybe?

The best team to cheer for is the Blue Bombers!

MikeVic · 11-22-2004, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

The best team to cheer for is the Blue Bombers!

I agree.

Montreal has had really good regular season success the past few years. Other than that, it seems like the other teams haven't been as consistent. The Blue Bombers should have done really well this year but didn't.

johnnyshaka · 11-22-2004, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I agree.

Montreal has had really good regular season success the past few years. Other than that, it seems like the other teams haven't been as consistent. The Blue Bombers should have done really well this year but didn't.

Eskimos have made the playoffs for 33 straight years...if that isn't consistent success, then I don't know what is.

MikeVic · 11-22-2004, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Eskimos have made the playoffs for 33 straight years...if that isn't consistent success, then I don't know what is.

Yeah, I GUESS that's consistent. I just don't like them so I didn't mention them.

Warhammer · 11-22-2004, 09:33 AM

Plus, wasn't Moon an Eskimo?

johnnyshaka · 11-22-2004, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Yeah, I GUESS that's consistent. I just don't like them so I didn't mention them.

MikeVic · 11-22-2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Plus, wasn't Moon an Eskimo?

I believe so.... but.. but... Dunigan was a Blue Bomber. And umm.. Juran Bolden. And... Albert Johnson. The last two were in the NFL. Mike Sellers played for the Bombers for a couple of years recently. Not sure where he went after.

I'm not sure if a guy named Dieter Brock went to the NFL, but I was told he did.

MikeVic · 11-22-2004, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Someone needs to start a CFL Fantasy Football league next season. I'd definately be down to play that. I'm guessing, tho, with only 9 teams, it would mean that you probably could only have like a 6 person league.

There's this... CFL Fantasy Football?. Haven't really looked into it. Just saw it now.

GoldenEagle · 11-22-2004, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

That TV deal is doing wonders!

We have a TV deal now? I missed that. Taco is doing great things for the league!

Bubba Wheels · 11-22-2004, 10:13 AM

CFL is pretty cool for a number of reason: Its developement is about where the NFL was in the early to mid 60s. The field is 40% larger so that in itself creates more action, less 3yds and a cloud of dust. They still play outside in the elements (like being a kid and playing snow-football) and the players don't make so much that they can avoid getting jobs in the off-season. Hope they continue with more success.

stevew · 11-22-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

There's this... CFL Fantasy Football?. Haven't really looked into it. Just saw it now.

Yeah, i saw that on the site. Next June, someone needs to set up the FOFC CFL Fantasy Football League.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-22-2004, 11:13 AM

WWhat channel was the Grey Cup on?

rkmsuf · 11-22-2004, 11:13 AM

If the NHL had the rouge it would be a whole different story.

SunDancer · 11-22-2004, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I believe so.... but.. but... Dunigan was a Blue Bomber. And umm.. Juran Bolden. And... Albert Johnson. The last two were in the NFL. Mike Sellers played for the Bombers for a couple of years recently. Not sure where he went after.

I'm not sure if a guy named Dieter Brock went to the NFL, but I was told he did.

Don't forget about Fluite. A Calgary Stampeder in the 80's-early 90's, then played for Toronto until he became a NFLer with the Bills.

Fidatelo · 11-22-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDancer

Don't forget about Fluite. A Calgary Stampeder in the 80's-early 90's, then played for Toronto until he became a NFLer with the Bills.

But Flutie was never a Blue Bomber, all the guys on MikeVic's list are ex-Bombers.

SunDancer · 11-22-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

But Flutie was never a Blue Bomber, all the guys on MikeVic's list are ex-Bombers.

My miskate. Though he was talking about "big-name" players, got confused between that and Wareen Moon.

Maple Leafs · 11-22-2004, 02:09 PM

What's this "besides Toronto" crap, Steve?

The Argos are the oldest professional football team in the world. All the great players find their way here eventually -- Dunnigan, Flutie, Allen, you name them. Mike "Pinball" Clemons is perhaps the only person in all of sports that everyone likes. And once they get out of the SkyDome, they'll even have a real football stadium to play in.

Oh, they're also the champs. Thought I'd throw that one in.

vex · 11-22-2004, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

We have a TV deal now? I missed that. Taco is doing great things for the league!

I think I read something about a TV deal anyways.

Karim · 11-22-2004, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I'm not sure if a guy named Dieter Brock went to the NFL, but I was told he did.

There's a name I haven't heard in a while. Yeah, after Winnipeg, he played for the LA Rams.

kcchief19 · 11-22-2004, 09:28 PM

Aw ... isn't that cute? Canadians and their football.

I'm all for pimping your sport, but let's do what the CFL has successfully done and keep the hype out of the CFL. More popular in the US than the NFL? You need to star cutting the bacon strips in half and cut back on the Labattes.

The Grey Cup earned about five column inches today in The Kansas City Star on page 2 of the sports section -- below much larger stories about Tiger Woods winning a tournament in Japan that wasn't on TV here and about Roger Federer winning the Masters Cup which no one one knows that is. The two main elements of the Grey Cup story were the fact that Damon Allen is Marcus Allen's brother and Michael "Pinball" Clemons was a scab for the Chiefs back in '87.

I visited the CFL's official Web site. I think the league needs to find some corporate sponsors to bring in more revenue. The need more advertising.

Wait a minute -- the game was only on Dish TV? Dear god. Even the indoor soccer finds its way on to cable every once in a while.

Desnudo · 11-22-2004, 09:42 PM

NHL, not NFL.

MikeVic · 11-22-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Aw ... isn't that cute? Canadians and their football.

I'm all for pimping your sport, but let's do what the CFL has successfully done and keep the hype out of the CFL. More popular in the US than the NFL? You need to star cutting the bacon strips in half and cut back on the Labattes.

The Grey Cup earned about five column inches today in The Kansas City Star on page 2 of the sports section -- below much larger stories about Tiger Woods winning a tournament in Japan that wasn't on TV here and about Roger Federer winning the Masters Cup which no one one knows that is. The two main elements of the Grey Cup story were the fact that Damon Allen is Marcus Allen's brother and Michael "Pinball" Clemons was a scab for the Chiefs back in '87.

I visited the CFL's official Web site. I think the league needs to find some corporate sponsors to bring in more revenue. The need more advertising.

Wait a minute -- the game was only on Dish TV? Dear god. Even the indoor soccer finds its way on to cable every once in a while.

Maybe you need to cut back on Labatt's. It's NHL, not NFL.

ISiddiqui · 11-22-2004, 09:59 PM

LOL... that was great... thanks MikeVic, for saving that post for posterity

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MikeVic · 11-22-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim

There's a name I haven't heard in a while. Yeah, after Winnipeg, he played for the LA Rams.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Karim · 11-23-2004, 01:35 AM

Well done kcchief.

Taco · 11-23-2004, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

We have a TV deal now? I missed that. Taco is doing great things for the league!

Thanks, buddy!

We are the real CFL!

Fidatelo · 11-23-2004, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Karim

There's a name I haven't heard in a while. Yeah, after Winnipeg, he played for the LA Rams.

Actually after Winnipeg he played for the Tiger-Cats (we traded him for Tom Clements, then both teams met in the '84 Grey Cup). He then left Hamilton to play a year for the Rams before retiring.

Johnny93g · 11-23-2004, 12:04 PM

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

I want to thank the United states for letting us have Pinball Clemons.....as classy as they get

Ajaxab · 11-23-2004, 12:05 PM

The mid/late 80s was a great time to be a Bomber fan. Clements, Reeves, Murphy, Boyd, Tuttle, West, Ty Jones. Those were some exciting teams to watch.

Johnny93g · 11-23-2004, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Aw ... isn't that cute? Canadians and their football.

I'm all for pimping your sport, but let's do what the CFL has successfully done and keep the hype out of the CFL. More popular in the US than the NFL? You need to star cutting the bacon strips in half and cut back on the Labattes.

The Grey Cup earned about five column inches today in The Kansas City Star on page 2 of the sports section -- below much larger stories about Tiger Woods winning a tournament in Japan that wasn't on TV here and about Roger Federer winning the Masters Cup which no one one knows that is. The two main elements of the Grey Cup story were the fact that Damon Allen is Marcus Allen's brother and Michael "Pinball" Clemons was a scab for the Chiefs back in '87.

I visited the CFL's official Web site. I think the league needs to find some corporate sponsors to bring in more revenue. The need more advertising.

Wait a minute -- the game was only on Dish TV? Dear god. Even the indoor soccer finds its way on to cable every once in a while.

I dont think your cheifs have ever earned that much space in the Toronto Star

Karim · 11-23-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

The mid/late 80s was a great time to be a Bomber fan. Clements, Reeves, Murphy, Boyd, Tuttle, West, Ty Jones. Those were some exciting teams to watch.

James Murphy, Joe Paplawski, Chris Walby, Willard Reeves, James West, Rod Hill... There's a reason the Bombers were my favourite team back then. I remember hearing a story about Murphy opening up a seafood place after he retired; he seemed to be a genuinely nice guy and happy to have created a life after football in Winterpeg.

vex · 11-23-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

I dont think your cheifs have ever earned that much space in the Toronto Star

It's the Chefs, not the Cheifs

MikeVic · 11-23-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim

James Murphy, Joe Paplawski, Chris Walby, Willard Reeves, James West, Rod Hill... There's a reason the Bombers were my favourite team back then. I remember hearing a story about Murphy opening up a seafood place after he retired; he seemed to be a genuinely nice guy and happy to have created a life after football in Winterpeg.

100% true. He has a fish market type thing at "The Forks" in downtown Winnipeg. Has some awards and pictures there too.

I've never gone up to him and talked, but a friend talks to him sometimes and got his autograph.

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11-22-2004, 01:07 AM	#12
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11-22-2004, 11:13 AM	#26
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11-22-2004, 02:09 PM	#31
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	What's this "besides Toronto" crap, Steve? The Argos are the oldest professional football team in the world. All the great players find their way here eventually -- Dunnigan, Flutie, Allen, you name them. Mike "Pinball" Clemons is perhaps the only person in all of sports that everyone likes. And once they get out of the SkyDome, they'll even have a real football stadium to play in. Oh, they're also the champs. Thought I'd throw that one in. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

11-21-2004, 10:49 PM	#3
SunDancer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Sep 2002	Question, Why do the BC Lions decide to go with the backup, and not start Casey Printers, the best athlete and most exciting player with amazing talent, and MVP of the CFL this year, in the biggest game?

11-21-2004, 11:04 PM	#6
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I believe Printers was Most Outstanding Offensive Player. Of course now this will be brought up when they talk about B.C. not winning it.

11-22-2004, 12:10 AM	#7
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I daresay i would probably get into the CFL if i ever knew when it was on, and who some of the players are. Now that the league has abandoned its 25% RoughRider mascot policy, i believe i can take it a bit more seriously. Wasnt Dickinson in the NFL either last year, or the year before, but he couldnt earn the job for the Chargers? I really wish this league would start around the end of the NFL season so we could truly have a spring football league worth watching.

11-22-2004, 12:43 AM	#8
Zippo High School JV Join Date: Jan 2004	Printers was injured last game and his shoulder was not 100% during practice, however he should have at least came off the bench.

11-22-2004, 12:45 AM	#9
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Whats a good team to cheer for in the CFL. Besides Toronto. Who has a history of Excellence? Edmonton maybe?

11-22-2004, 12:49 AM	#10
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Someone needs to start a CFL Fantasy Football league next season. I'd definately be down to play that. I'm guessing, tho, with only 9 teams, it would mean that you probably could only have like a 6 person league.

11-22-2004, 01:03 AM	#11
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How does a league run with an odd number of teams. Do some teams get more bye weeks than others? Im looking on the site and it appears that the season takes place over 20 weeks, and each team plays 18 games. The schedule makes no sense to me from a logic standpoint. It would appear that there would need to be 20 "bye weeks" but if each of the 9 teams gets 2 weeks off a year, there are 2 weeks where no team would be off. Even tho somone has to be off

11-22-2004, 09:33 AM	#19
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Plus, wasn't Moon an Eskimo?

11-22-2004, 10:13 AM	#24
Bubba Wheels College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	CFL is pretty cool for a number of reason: Its developement is about where the NFL was in the early to mid 60s. The field is 40% larger so that in itself creates more action, less 3yds and a cloud of dust. They still play outside in the elements (like being a kid and playing snow-football) and the players don't make so much that they can avoid getting jobs in the off-season. Hope they continue with more success.

11-22-2004, 09:28 PM	#34
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Aw ... isn't that cute? Canadians and their football. I'm all for pimping your sport, but let's do what the CFL has successfully done and keep the hype out of the CFL. More popular in the US than the NFL? You need to star cutting the bacon strips in half and cut back on the Labattes. The Grey Cup earned about five column inches today in The Kansas City Star on page 2 of the sports section -- below much larger stories about Tiger Woods winning a tournament in Japan that wasn't on TV here and about Roger Federer winning the Masters Cup which no one one knows that is. The two main elements of the Grey Cup story were the fact that Damon Allen is Marcus Allen's brother and Michael "Pinball" Clemons was a scab for the Chiefs back in '87. I visited the CFL's official Web site. I think the league needs to find some corporate sponsors to bring in more revenue. The need more advertising. Wait a minute -- the game was only on Dish TV? Dear god. Even the indoor soccer finds its way on to cable every once in a while.

11-22-2004, 09:42 PM	#35
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	NHL, not NFL.

11-22-2004, 09:59 PM	#37
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	LOL... that was great... thanks MikeVic, for saving that post for posterity . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-23-2004, 01:35 AM	#39
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Well done kcchief.

11-23-2004, 12:04 PM	#42
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! I want to thank the United states for letting us have Pinball Clemons.....as classy as they get __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

11-23-2004, 12:05 PM	#43
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	The mid/late 80s was a great time to be a Bomber fan. Clements, Reeves, Murphy, Boyd, Tuttle, West, Ty Jones. Those were some exciting teams to watch.

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