USA users

lytic · 11-29-2004, 07:07 PM

If you use the "official" offsite forum and use the same password, you may want to consider changing your password.

vex · 11-29-2004, 07:15 PM

Get hacked?

terpkristin · 11-29-2004, 09:29 PM

Was he banned from the confs? Based on this post...
From Dersatz who is currently taking some time off from the conferences: You can get Firefox (which is made by the developers of Mozilla, so it's open source) completely free here:

(www.mozilla.org/)

~tk

vex · 11-29-2004, 09:53 PM

About time.

terpkristin · 11-29-2004, 10:09 PM

I agree it's about time.
Granted, he and the others like him posting there is why I avoid the USA conf like the plague.
Too much of all the same.
~tk

Chubby · 11-29-2004, 10:11 PM

i'm confused (as usual)

damnMikeBrown · 11-29-2004, 10:13 PM

Was who banned? What I miss?

Saw lytic post this here and on fofc forums though...

I DEMAND ANSWERS!

PilotMan · 11-29-2004, 11:18 PM

You and me both. I guess I am such a hermit I don't even venture outside to other forums.

vex · 11-29-2004, 11:24 PM

Dersatz was banned

vex · 12-01-2004, 02:30 PM

By: GM-George

To: Everyone

2123556.1

12/1/2004 at 19.18

It is highly recommended that Hattrick users do not use the Hattrick Forum at www.hattrickusa.com. The person that runs that forum has been removed from Hattrick for reason we will not disclose here. However, since users have to register to use that forum then there is the chance that you registered with your hattrick password. In that case it is also highly recommended that you change your Hattrick password.

Thanks for your time.

hhiipp · 12-01-2004, 02:46 PM

Wonder how he feels about giving supporter out to all those people now? Lol.. what a waste of money.

MacroGuru · 12-01-2004, 02:54 PM

What the hell has he done to warrant this....attack if you want to call it...No one is saying anything...I know the guy could be an ass at times...but to have what is being posted is rubbish to me, unless there is proof that he is that vicious.

hhiipp · 12-01-2004, 02:58 PM

I think it's a better safe than sorry thing. And just speculation here, someone who signed up for that site may have been 'hacked' and had it traced back to him, that could have warranted such a post.

MacroGuru · 12-01-2004, 03:24 PM

I can see that...but I truly feel he has a right to defend himself, instead of allegations being hurled, and he not having a chance to have his say.

Instead, he is locked out, and the only way he can defend himself is from a page of the old forum...

Oh well.....

hhiipp · 12-01-2004, 03:42 PM

Would you rather have 1 pissed off Dersatz or the total number of users who signed up at the forums with the same password pissed off? It's all about damage control, I think they took the appropriate action here.

paksenarrion · 12-01-2004, 04:18 PM

The question I have and don't even know where to get an answer. I used the same id at the forum at http://forum.web-ht.com/ which was the previous USA National and U-20 team talk forum before www.hattrickusa.com. Were all the user names and passwords from the web-ht.com forum transferred automatically to hattrickusa when that forum changed sites. I hadn't yet signed up for the new forum at hattrickusa, but was my id and password from web-ht already stored there?

rickJ · 12-01-2004, 04:21 PM

I'm not sure if I can vouch for his character very far, but what he's gotten accused of seems close to insane (not that he hasn't been far away from that himself lately).

Still probably shouldn't say anything past that, wonder if anyone's going to save Green from a team that's already going WO's indefinitely...

TargetPractice6 · 12-01-2004, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paksenarrion

The question I have and don't even know where to get an answer. I used the same id at the forum at http://forum.web-ht.com/ which was the previous USA National and U-20 team talk forum before www.hattrickusa.com. Were all the user names and passwords from the web-ht.com forum transferred automatically to hattrickusa when that forum changed sites. I hadn't yet signed up for the new forum at hattrickusa, but was my id and password from web-ht already stored there?

Yeah if you signed up for the web-ht forums then it carries over to the hattrickusa forums. I don't think there was/is much to worry about so much as it was a "just in case" thing for the GMs. I know they've dealt with peole that have flipped out over getting their team locked before and made the warning not knowing how Dersatz would react or what he is capable of.

Jets80 · 12-02-2004, 12:45 PM

Who the hell is Dersatz and what did he do ?

saintjo · 12-02-2004, 12:51 PM

i agree with jets80. can someone please just say what he did or is getting accused of doing? i have no idea what is going on.

Desnudo · 12-02-2004, 01:43 PM

Third that. If you're going to talk about some inside things on an open forum, you owe it to everyone else to explain.

Mr. Wednesday · 12-02-2004, 02:36 PM

Dersatz was an owner in division III who ran for national team coach and was more recently seen in conferences advertising a giveaway of supporter for teams.

saintjo · 12-02-2004, 02:42 PM

and...?

TargetPractice6 · 12-02-2004, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintjo

and...?

And he was locked. The GMs haven't commented on the cause, like always.

saintjo · 12-02-2004, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

And he was locked. The GMs haven't commented on the cause, like always.

yeah, but im sure someone on here can give some more details than that on what he is being accused of. i realize some of the members on here that are oh mods or whatever cant say, but someone else has to have some kind of idea.

Masked · 12-02-2004, 03:42 PM

Apparently, more than one team was locked.

hhiipp · 12-02-2004, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickJ

I'm not sure if I can vouch for his character very far, but what he's gotten accused of seems close to insane (not that he hasn't been far away from that himself lately).

Still probably shouldn't say anything past that, wonder if anyone's going to save Green from a team that's already going WO's indefinitely...

Green can't be released to the TL because he's not on the U20 squad, so he's going bye bye.

vex · 12-02-2004, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hhiipp

Green can't be released to the TL because he's not on the U20 squad, so he's going bye bye.

Then they could/should add him now for the future of the USA team.

TargetPractice6 · 12-02-2004, 07:14 PM

No, the WC is getting ready to start and Green is an offseason player. No reason to hurt us in this WC for a player that would only play in qualifications.

Desnudo · 12-02-2004, 08:04 PM

Interesting message.

http://www.hattrickusa.com/forums/

vex · 12-02-2004, 08:16 PM

"The makers of phpBB used md5 data encryption on your passwords, which makes them look something like.
"@$#%@#$!123123123!@#1231652434512653as#@!$@#4."

Which tells me that he tried.

rickJ · 12-02-2004, 10:08 PM

I'd like to think administrators of BBS boards check the security of their user's passwords... Seriously, most computer nerd inclined folks are somewhat familiar with encryption and what it entails.

Mr. Wednesday · 12-02-2004, 11:42 PM

Of course, the point of breaking in would not be at the actual password file, it would be at a point where the user's password is in flight in plain text, i.e. at registration or at sign-in. At registration is easy if the auto-reg function sends a verification e-mail with the password included (should be possible to grab a copy of the outgoing e-mail if you have control of the server, right?), and at sign-in is theoretically possible with some php hacking.

I don't know if he's actually thought of any of that, of course.

11-29-2004, 09:29 PM	#3
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Was he banned from the confs? Based on this post... From Dersatz who is currently taking some time off from the conferences: You can get Firefox (which is made by the developers of Mozilla, so it's open source) completely free here: (www.mozilla.org/) ~tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

11-29-2004, 10:09 PM	#5
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	I agree it's about time. Granted, he and the others like him posting there is why I avoid the USA conf like the plague. Too much of all the same. ~tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

11-29-2004, 11:18 PM	#8
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	You and me both. I guess I am such a hermit I don't even venture outside to other forums. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

12-01-2004, 03:24 PM	#14
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I can see that...but I truly feel he has a right to defend himself, instead of allegations being hurled, and he not having a chance to have his say. Instead, he is locked out, and the only way he can defend himself is from a page of the old forum... Oh well..... __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

12-02-2004, 12:51 PM	#20
saintjo College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO	i agree with jets80. can someone please just say what he did or is getting accused of doing? i have no idea what is going on. __________________ http://www.MaloMart.com

11-29-2004, 07:15 PM	#2
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Get hacked?

11-29-2004, 09:53 PM	#4
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	About time.

11-29-2004, 10:11 PM	#6
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	i'm confused (as usual)

11-29-2004, 10:13 PM	#7
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Was who banned? What I miss? Saw lytic post this here and on fofc forums though... I DEMAND ANSWERS!

11-29-2004, 11:24 PM	#9
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Dersatz was banned

12-01-2004, 02:46 PM	#11
hhiipp College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OH	Wonder how he feels about giving supporter out to all those people now? Lol.. what a waste of money.

12-01-2004, 02:54 PM	#12
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	What the hell has he done to warrant this....attack if you want to call it...No one is saying anything...I know the guy could be an ass at times...but to have what is being posted is rubbish to me, unless there is proof that he is that vicious. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

12-01-2004, 02:58 PM	#13
hhiipp College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OH	I think it's a better safe than sorry thing. And just speculation here, someone who signed up for that site may have been 'hacked' and had it traced back to him, that could have warranted such a post.

12-01-2004, 03:42 PM	#15
hhiipp College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OH	Would you rather have 1 pissed off Dersatz or the total number of users who signed up at the forums with the same password pissed off? It's all about damage control, I think they took the appropriate action here.

12-01-2004, 04:18 PM	#16
paksenarrion n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Orange Beach, AL	The question I have and don't even know where to get an answer. I used the same id at the forum at http://forum.web-ht.com/ which was the previous USA National and U-20 team talk forum before www.hattrickusa.com. Were all the user names and passwords from the web-ht.com forum transferred automatically to hattrickusa when that forum changed sites. I hadn't yet signed up for the new forum at hattrickusa, but was my id and password from web-ht already stored there?

12-01-2004, 04:21 PM	#17
rickJ Mascot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Austin, TX	I'm not sure if I can vouch for his character very far, but what he's gotten accused of seems close to insane (not that he hasn't been far away from that himself lately). Still probably shouldn't say anything past that, wonder if anyone's going to save Green from a team that's already going WO's indefinitely...

12-02-2004, 12:45 PM	#19
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	Who the hell is Dersatz and what did he do ?

12-02-2004, 01:43 PM	#21
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Third that. If you're going to talk about some inside things on an open forum, you owe it to everyone else to explain.

12-02-2004, 02:36 PM	#22
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Dersatz was an owner in division III who ran for national team coach and was more recently seen in conferences advertising a giveaway of supporter for teams. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

12-02-2004, 02:42 PM	#23
saintjo College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO	and...? __________________ http://www.MaloMart.com

12-02-2004, 03:42 PM	#26
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	Apparently, more than one team was locked.

12-02-2004, 07:14 PM	#29
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	No, the WC is getting ready to start and Green is an offseason player. No reason to hurt us in this WC for a player that would only play in qualifications.

12-02-2004, 08:04 PM	#30
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Interesting message. http://www.hattrickusa.com/forums/

12-02-2004, 08:16 PM	#31
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	"The makers of phpBB used md5 data encryption on your passwords, which makes them look something like. "@$#%@#$!123123123!@#1231652434512653as#@!$@#4." Which tells me that he tried.

12-02-2004, 10:08 PM	#32
rickJ Mascot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Austin, TX	I'd like to think administrators of BBS boards check the security of their user's passwords... Seriously, most computer nerd inclined folks are somewhat familiar with encryption and what it entails.

12-02-2004, 11:42 PM	#33
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Of course, the point of breaking in would not be at the actual password file, it would be at a point where the user's password is in flight in plain text, i.e. at registration or at sign-in. At registration is easy if the auto-reg function sends a verification e-mail with the password included (should be possible to grab a copy of the outgoing e-mail if you have control of the server, right?), and at sign-in is theoretically possible with some php hacking. I don't know if he's actually thought of any of that, of course. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

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