Jeff Kent Signs with the Dodgers

jbmagic · 12-09-2004, 10:22 PM

Jeff Kent Signs with the Dodgers

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1942918

Kent doesn't case where Tracy puts him.

"I play this game with the cliche that if you can hit, they'll find a place for you," Kent said. "I love to hit, I love to swing the bat, and I believe that I'm a great second baseman as well. But I also have the tools that allow me to play first base and third base. So I'm comfortable enough to wait this out and I have no problems with that at all."

Draft Dodger · 12-09-2004, 10:41 PM

reason #291 on why I don't like the Dodgers anymore.

SackAttack · 12-09-2004, 10:43 PM

Not sure what Draft Dodger means by that.

I'm glad to hear that Kent is, on the surface, being a team player about the positional thing.

My first thought after reading this, though, was "$9.5m/year? If they can throw that kind of money at a 36 year old 2B, we damn well better be re-signing Beltre."

MrBug708 · 12-09-2004, 10:43 PM

First base, here he goes

Crapshoot · 12-09-2004, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Not sure what Draft Dodger means by that.

I'm glad to hear that Kent is, on the surface, being a team player about the positional thing.

My first thought after reading this, though, was "$9.5m/year? If they can throw that kind of money at a 36 year old 2B, we damn well better be re-signing Beltre."

Im hoping Kent pulls a Vizcaino- last former Giants IF to play for the Dodgers.

Sun Tzu · 12-09-2004, 10:48 PM

What was reason #290?

SackAttack · 12-09-2004, 10:51 PM

But Barry had nothing to do with it, right?

Sharpieman · 12-09-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Not sure what Draft Dodger means by that.

I'm glad to hear that Kent is, on the surface, being a team player about the positional thing.

Jeff Kent=Cancer

Draft Dodger · 12-09-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

What was reason #290?

I'm a little cloudy, but probably something involving Todd Hundley.

Swaggs · 12-09-2004, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman

Jeff Kent=Cancer

Yeah, his teams never win.

jbmagic · 12-10-2004, 12:12 AM

this signing scare me,

are they saying they gave up on beltre? and have kent to play 3b in case beltre dont sign with the dodgers

i wonder now how much can they offer beltre

MrBug708 · 12-10-2004, 12:38 AM

Can? Or want to?

Danny · 12-10-2004, 12:51 AM

This is a good signing. Kent will help the offense and gives the team more leverage regarding Beltre. I am hoping somehow we can sign Clement and trade for Hudson.

Swaggs · 12-10-2004, 01:04 AM

Sounds like Hudson to St. Louis might be close to done. Wonder if the A's will get hosed like they did in the McGwire deal?

Kent is a great offensive player. LA needs to sign Beltre for Kent to make sense on the team, otherwise they need a whole new crew of offensive players. Although maybe they sign Koskie and Beltran?

rexallllsc · 12-10-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman

Jeff Kent=Cancer

I think Bones is the cancer...

SackAttack · 12-10-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

LA needs to sign Beltre for Kent to make sense on the team, otherwise they need a whole new crew of offensive players.

That's the key for me. If Bradley continues to improve, Green sticks around and recovers his old form, and we re-sign Beltre (who in turn needs to build off of last year), then the Dodgers suddenly have a very dangerous offense.

The question in such a scenario is, does Kent go to 1st and send Green to RF, or does Kent displace Cora, leading either to Choi at 1st, an FA signing (Delgado?) or Green still at 1st and Ledee/Chen in RF?

jbmagic · 12-10-2004, 02:37 AM

the question is do you put Bradley and Kent lockers next to each other

jbmagic · 12-10-2004, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

That's the key for me. If Bradley continues to improve, Green sticks around and recovers his old form, and we re-sign Beltre (who in turn needs to build off of last year), then the Dodgers suddenly have a very dangerous offense.

The question in such a scenario is, does Kent go to 1st and send Green to RF, or does Kent displace Cora, leading either to Choi at 1st, an FA signing (Delgado?) or Green still at 1st and Ledee/Chen in RF?

i think Kent will play 1B or 3b if they dont sign Beltre and he will occassionaly start at 2b when cora needs a rest,

there not taking Cora out at 2b

JeeberD · 12-10-2004, 02:39 AM

So does Craig Biggio move back to second or do the Astros give the spot to rookie Chris Burke?

Suicane75 · 12-10-2004, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

So does Craig Biggio move back to second or do the Astros give the spot to rookie Chris Burke?

I heard they suggested he move to Beer Vendor. They just keep moving him further and further back.

daedalus · 12-10-2004, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

"I play this game with the cliche that if you can hit, they'll find a place for you," Kent said. "I love to hit, I love to swing the bat, and I believe that I'm a great second baseman as well. But I also have the tools that allow me to play first base and third base. So I'm comfortable enough to wait this out and I have no problems with that at all."

Sounds nice in December. I'll actually believe it when the real games come along and I actually see him playing at 3rd or 1st WITHOUT whining daily. When I saw him with the Mets (damn, that makes me feel old), I thought he had the tool to be a solid 3B defensively where I thought he was a fairly mediocre at 2B.

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

That's the key for me. If Bradley continues to improve, Green sticks around and recovers his old form, and we re-sign Beltre (who in turn needs to build off of last year), then the Dodgers suddenly have a very dangerous offense.

The question in such a scenario is, does Kent go to 1st and send Green to RF, or does Kent displace Cora, leading either to Choi at 1st, an FA signing (Delgado?) or Green still at 1st and Ledee/Chen in RF?

That's a lot o' coins to toss about (even accounting for the dead salaries coming off the payroll) and McCourt is neither Steinbrenner ("We have money. Let's spend!") nor Colangelo ("We don't have money. Let's spend!"). And that's not even taking arms into account yet. Beltre is likely to be in the 10-15 range and, with Glaus getting 11 per, Beltre is likely to be looking for more after this past season. It IS possible that he may be willing to do a "hometown discount" but I have seen or heard no indication of it. Delgado is likely to be looking for nothing less than 10 per, if not significantly higher. Ledee would be wasting at-bats better served going toward somebody who could actually help the Dodgers long term.

A scenario I'd like to see would be Werth staying in left, Green going back to right, Kent plopped into 2nd while retaining Beltre for 3rd, Cora used liberally to keep Izturiz fresh (if only because it's terribly to have a shortstop with those, ahem, not-so-fresh feelings) and Kent healthy, Choi taking over at 1st while being occasionally relieved by a right-handed warm body (Tony Clark comes to mind) and Chen taking over the role that Werth had last year (spot duty with increasing responsibility). Oh, and re-ink Penny while chasing Milton. Of course, more ideal would have also included not bothering with Kent, shopping Choi and snagging Graham Koonce from the A's.

CentralMassHokie · 12-10-2004, 06:13 AM

I'd be very surprised if Kent isn't the full time 2B for the Dodgers next season. Every defensive metric that I've seen had Kent anywhere from good to great at 2B last season.

MrBug708 · 12-10-2004, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

the question is do you put Bradley and Kent lockers next to each other

Personally, I think we got Bradley some backup for a foray into the stands, but that's just my opinion

Stormcloud_Creations · 12-10-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

the question is do you put Bradley and Kent lockers next to each other

My thoughts too...Bradley and Kent on the same team? Ugh.

Well, the Dodgers clubhouse won't be boring anyway.

Tekneek · 12-10-2004, 11:27 AM

Didn't Kent win one of NLCS games against St. Louis with a walk-off homer, after having the guy before him intentionally walked?

Yeah, yeah, I don't watch much baseball.

Danny · 12-10-2004, 11:31 AM

I like the Ledee signing also. The guy was a very producitve hitter in 2002-2004 for the Phillies. He did suck bad, real bad, for the Giants. The Dodgers don't have any good young outifled prospects who are ready for the majors, so why not.

daedalus · 12-10-2004, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Drickman

I like the Ledee signing also. The guy was a very producitve hitter in 2002-2004 for the Phillies. He did suck bad, real bad, for the Giants. The Dodgers don't have any good young outifled prospects who are ready for the majors, so why not.

I'd rather see Green join Werth and Bradley in the outfield to open up 1st for Choi or have Chen in right and find out if they can step up or not than waste those at-bats on a 31 year old 4th outfielder/pinch hitter*. It seems pointless to try to develop (or, in Choi's case, acquire) young players and not bother giving them a chance.

*Otis Nixon being one of those rare exceptional exceptions (tee hee) since he had an exceptional tool (extraordinary speed) and developed the appropriate skills (half-way decent eye and the ability to generally make contact) to match that tool. Not something I forsee occuring with Mssr Ledee.

Swaggs · 12-10-2004, 12:20 PM

I think that not using Kent at 2B, in place of Cora, would be a waste.

Cora's breakout season last year gave him acceptable offensive numbers, but still far below the production of an average Jeff Kent-season. Looking at his age (29) plus his past numbers, relying on him to maintain or improve is a risk they do not need to take with Kent available.

They have made a good upgrade at 2B by signing Kent, putting him at 3B or 1B is not going to do much to improve their team.

Danny · 12-10-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by daedalus

I'd rather see Green join Werth and Bradley in the outfield to open up 1st for Choi or have Chen in right and find out if they can step up or not than waste those at-bats on a 31 year old 4th outfielder/pinch hitter*. It seems pointless to try to develop (or, in Choi's case, acquire) young players and not bother giving them a chance.

Um, Green is likely to be moving to the outfield to join Werth and Bradley. Ledee is planned to be the 4th outfielder. Ledee also provides insurance in case Werth's recovery doesn't continue to go as well as it has been. I sure as heck don't want to rely on Chen as our only outfield insurance. He appears like he could be yet another PCL wonder.

DanGarion · 12-10-2004, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Im hoping Kent pulls a Vizcaino- last former Giants IF to play for the Dodgers.

Um, Vizciano was first a Dodger, he came up in our organization.

Crapshoot · 12-10-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

Um, Vizciano was first a Dodger, he came up in our organization.

umm, Im referring to the fact that he was traded to SF as part of the Matt Williams deal by Cleveland, and played one season- and then left to join LA and proceded to be out hit by the pitchers.

DanGarion · 12-10-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

umm, Im referring to the fact that he was traded to SF as part of the Matt Williams deal by Cleveland, and played one season- and then left to join LA and proceded to be out hit by the pitchers.

Yeah but he can field!

Crapshoot · 12-10-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

Yeah but he can field!

Oh ya - Im hoping for the same from Kent ...

jbmagic · 12-10-2004, 02:23 PM

there not going to break up the best double play combo in the MLB with Cora 2b and Cesar Izturis SS.

so kent will play 1b or 3b if Beltre dont get sign

and when cora needs to sit out, kent will play 2b

CentralMassHokie · 12-10-2004, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

there not going to break up the best double play combo in the MLB with Cora 2b and Cesar Izturis SS.

Why not?

Kent's over the past 5 years has been anywhere from good to great regardless of what defensive metric you look at. So Cora's not that much of an upgrade.

Last year, Cora's offense was just below league average. So Kent gets a huge win here.

Topping it off, Depo is, I think, trying to build a pitching staff of flyball pitchers to take advantage of the vast OF in Chavez Ravine. Infield defense is not at a premium in LA as much as it might be in a different park behind a different pitching staff.

Trade Cora while his value is probably as high as it will ever be, especially if you think that his offense this past season was an aberration. Move Green back into the OF with Bradley and Werth/Ledee, and have Choi at first.

That offense could *almost* deal with the loss of Beltre. A combination of deals might lead you to pick up a 3B. Hell, Depo is probably looking to deal Cora if he can find his way into the Randy Johnson deal since that's going to *have* to be a multi-team deal. I could easily see Cora ending up in Arizona with prospects or someone like Brandon Webb ending up in LA (depending on the size/scope of the Johnson deal).

MrBug708 · 12-10-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

umm, Im referring to the fact that he was traded to SF as part of the Matt Williams deal by Cleveland, and played one season- and then left to join LA and proceded to be out hit by the pitchers.

Was Kevin Elster a Giant?

jbmagic · 12-10-2004, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CentralMassHokie

Why not?

Kent's over the past 5 years has been anywhere from good to great regardless of what defensive metric you look at. So Cora's not that much of an upgrade.

Last year, Cora's offense was just below league average. So Kent gets a huge win here.

Topping it off, Depo is, I think, trying to build a pitching staff of flyball pitchers to take advantage of the vast OF in Chavez Ravine. Infield defense is not at a premium in LA as much as it might be in a different park behind a different pitching staff.

Trade Cora while his value is probably as high as it will ever be, especially if you think that his offense this past season was an aberration. Move Green back into the OF with Bradley and Werth/Ledee, and have Choi at first.

That offense could *almost* deal with the loss of Beltre. A combination of deals might lead you to pick up a 3B. Hell, Depo is probably looking to deal Cora if he can find his way into the Randy Johnson deal since that's going to *have* to be a multi-team deal. I could easily see Cora ending up in Arizona with prospects or someone like Brandon Webb ending up in LA (depending on the size/scope of the Johnson deal).

i thimk it a bigger upgrade putting Kent to 1b over Choi....
Choi never has done anything yet..

JonInMiddleGA · 12-10-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Was Kevin Elster a Giant?

Nope.

Met, Yankee, Phillie, Ranger, Pirate, Ranger (again), then Dodger.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/e/elsteke01.shtml

CentralMassHokie · 12-10-2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i thimk it a bigger upgrade putting Kent to 1b over Choi....
Choi never has done anything yet..

You did see what he was doing with the Marlins, right?

He came to the Dodgers, didn't hit out of the gate, and got plunked on the bench.

I'd be extremely surprised if he's not the starting 1B. He will probably be as good a hitter as Kent, so there's not a big upgrade there.

Cora's the odd man out, and rightfully so.

PilotMan · 12-10-2004, 06:25 PM

For one, Choi, I think is a better bet at first base. I like a contact hitter with a good eye and some pop. I agree that it would be hard to break up the best DP combo in baseball, and the anchor for the defense in the middle. It seems to me that Green needs to go. He has been so hot or cold, that I have lost all faith in his ability to hang in there for an entire season. He is commanding way to much money at this point in his career and should be traded.

I am a bit bummed to see Lima go. He pitched one of the games that I saw in Cinci and was dominating. He was a big spark for the team, but I can see if LA was reluctant to give him multi-year deal. Elmer Dessens? Why?

Glad to see Nomo go. I cringed everytime he started last season. Maybe its time to head back to Japan.

Beltre needs to stay and LA has the money to keep him. I think the Johnson deal is a possibility, but from what I hear, Randy really doesn't want to go anywhere but NY. Still, he would look good in LA and would be perfect for LA.

MrBug708 · 12-10-2004, 07:29 PM

LA doesn't have the cash. We took equity out on the team AGAIN. *sigh* Never sell a team to a parking lot king.

Danny · 12-11-2004, 04:15 AM

Randy Johnson is not coming to LA. He wouldnt waive his no trade clause to go LA before and he still isn't going to. The guy I want is Hudson and from what I hear, we have a real shot at him.

If we trade for Hudson and sign Clement, I would be fine with bringing in someone like Koskie to play 3B if Beltre does not back off of his demand for 7 years at a huge salary.

jbmagic · 12-11-2004, 10:54 AM

the rumor is Edwin Jackson sp and Cora 2b for Hudson

look for Randy Johnsonm to go to the Angels , now that Finley is there....he going to talk his friend to come over..

CentralMassHokie · 12-11-2004, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

the rumor is Edwin Jackson sp and Cora 2b for Hudson

There's got to be a whole lot more leaving the Dodgers and going to another team in a 3-team deal or to the A's straight up.

Because that's not nearly enough for Hudson, considering that the other deals that have been bandied about.

Swaggs · 12-11-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

the rumor is Edwin Jackson sp and Cora 2b for Hudson

look for Randy Johnsonm to go to the Angels , now that Finley is there....he going to talk his friend to come over..

Man, I would jump all over that Hudson deal, if true.

MrBug708 · 12-11-2004, 02:27 PM

Edwin Jackson is still untapped however...

Danny · 12-11-2004, 05:20 PM

That earlier trade is not going to happen. It will take Edwin Jackson, Antonio Perez (who the A's prefer over Cora) and another good prospect. The Braves as of yet, are not offering Marcus Giles and the Cardinals offer is something like Dan Haren and Jason Marquis. Marquis in the American League would be a below average starter.

Danny · 12-12-2004, 06:01 AM

It's been reported that the Dodgers and A's will announce that TIm Hudson has been dealt to the Dodgers for Edwin Jackson and Antonio Perez.

I am very happy with this deal, assuming of course we give Hudson an extension. That shouldn't be a problem as Green's and Dreifort's salaries come off the books after this season. That frees up close to 30 million. Hudson has been one of my favorite players and he should do very well at Dodger stadium and gives us a true ace.

Bomber · 12-12-2004, 10:54 AM

I haven't seen that yet anywhere, do you have a link?

Danny · 12-12-2004, 10:56 AM

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...0398742.htm?1c

I was fairly excited when I posted. It's not final yet, but this along with the Sporting News radio indicated it's a done deal. The media can be wrong often though, so Im trying to not get too excited now

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12-09-2004, 10:48 PM	#6
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	What was reason #290? __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

12-10-2004, 01:04 AM	#14
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Sounds like Hudson to St. Louis might be close to done. Wonder if the A's will get hosed like they did in the McGwire deal? Kent is a great offensive player. LA needs to sign Beltre for Kent to make sense on the team, otherwise they need a whole new crew of offensive players. Although maybe they sign Koskie and Beltran? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-10-2004, 02:39 AM	#19
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	So does Craig Biggio move back to second or do the Astros give the spot to rookie Chris Burke? __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

12-10-2004, 11:27 AM	#25
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Didn't Kent win one of NLCS games against St. Louis with a walk-off homer, after having the guy before him intentionally walked? Yeah, yeah, I don't watch much baseball. Last edited by Tekneek : 12-10-2004 at 11:29 AM.

12-10-2004, 12:20 PM	#28
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I think that not using Kent at 2B, in place of Cora, would be a waste. Cora's breakout season last year gave him acceptable offensive numbers, but still far below the production of an average Jeff Kent-season. Looking at his age (29) plus his past numbers, relying on him to maintain or improve is a risk they do not need to take with Kent available. They have made a good upgrade at 2B by signing Kent, putting him at 3B or 1B is not going to do much to improve their team. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-09-2004, 10:41 PM	#2
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	reason #291 on why I don't like the Dodgers anymore. __________________ Mile High Hockey

12-09-2004, 10:43 PM	#3
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Not sure what Draft Dodger means by that. I'm glad to hear that Kent is, on the surface, being a team player about the positional thing. My first thought after reading this, though, was "$9.5m/year? If they can throw that kind of money at a 36 year old 2B, we damn well better be re-signing Beltre."

12-09-2004, 10:43 PM	#4
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	First base, here he goes

12-09-2004, 10:51 PM	#7
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	But Barry had nothing to do with it, right?

12-10-2004, 12:12 AM	#11
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	this signing scare me, are they saying they gave up on beltre? and have kent to play 3b in case beltre dont sign with the dodgers i wonder now how much can they offer beltre

12-10-2004, 12:38 AM	#12
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Can? Or want to?

12-10-2004, 12:51 AM	#13
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	This is a good signing. Kent will help the offense and gives the team more leverage regarding Beltre. I am hoping somehow we can sign Clement and trade for Hudson.

12-10-2004, 02:37 AM	#17
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	the question is do you put Bradley and Kent lockers next to each other

12-10-2004, 06:13 AM	#22
CentralMassHokie High School JV Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Massachusetts	I'd be very surprised if Kent isn't the full time 2B for the Dodgers next season. Every defensive metric that I've seen had Kent anywhere from good to great at 2B last season.

12-10-2004, 11:31 AM	#26
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	I like the Ledee signing also. The guy was a very producitve hitter in 2002-2004 for the Phillies. He did suck bad, real bad, for the Giants. The Dodgers don't have any good young outifled prospects who are ready for the majors, so why not.

12-10-2004, 02:23 PM	#34
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	there not going to break up the best double play combo in the MLB with Cora 2b and Cesar Izturis SS. so kent will play 1b or 3b if Beltre dont get sign and when cora needs to sit out, kent will play 2b

12-10-2004, 06:25 PM	#40
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	For one, Choi, I think is a better bet at first base. I like a contact hitter with a good eye and some pop. I agree that it would be hard to break up the best DP combo in baseball, and the anchor for the defense in the middle. It seems to me that Green needs to go. He has been so hot or cold, that I have lost all faith in his ability to hang in there for an entire season. He is commanding way to much money at this point in his career and should be traded. I am a bit bummed to see Lima go. He pitched one of the games that I saw in Cinci and was dominating. He was a big spark for the team, but I can see if LA was reluctant to give him multi-year deal. Elmer Dessens? Why? Glad to see Nomo go. I cringed everytime he started last season. Maybe its time to head back to Japan. Beltre needs to stay and LA has the money to keep him. I think the Johnson deal is a possibility, but from what I hear, Randy really doesn't want to go anywhere but NY. Still, he would look good in LA and would be perfect for LA. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

12-10-2004, 07:29 PM	#41
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	LA doesn't have the cash. We took equity out on the team AGAIN. sigh Never sell a team to a parking lot king.

12-11-2004, 04:15 AM	#42
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	Randy Johnson is not coming to LA. He wouldnt waive his no trade clause to go LA before and he still isn't going to. The guy I want is Hudson and from what I hear, we have a real shot at him. If we trade for Hudson and sign Clement, I would be fine with bringing in someone like Koskie to play 3B if Beltre does not back off of his demand for 7 years at a huge salary.

12-11-2004, 10:54 AM	#43
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	the rumor is Edwin Jackson sp and Cora 2b for Hudson look for Randy Johnsonm to go to the Angels , now that Finley is there....he going to talk his friend to come over..

12-11-2004, 02:27 PM	#46
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Edwin Jackson is still untapped however...

12-11-2004, 05:20 PM	#47
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	That earlier trade is not going to happen. It will take Edwin Jackson, Antonio Perez (who the A's prefer over Cora) and another good prospect. The Braves as of yet, are not offering Marcus Giles and the Cardinals offer is something like Dan Haren and Jason Marquis. Marquis in the American League would be a below average starter.

12-12-2004, 06:01 AM	#48
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	It's been reported that the Dodgers and A's will announce that TIm Hudson has been dealt to the Dodgers for Edwin Jackson and Antonio Perez. I am very happy with this deal, assuming of course we give Hudson an extension. That shouldn't be a problem as Green's and Dreifort's salaries come off the books after this season. That frees up close to 30 million. Hudson has been one of my favorite players and he should do very well at Dodger stadium and gives us a true ace.

12-12-2004, 10:54 AM	#49
Bomber High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2004	I haven't seen that yet anywhere, do you have a link?

12-12-2004, 10:56 AM	#50
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...0398742.htm?1c I was fairly excited when I posted. It's not final yet, but this along with the Sporting News radio indicated it's a done deal. The media can be wrong often though, so Im trying to not get too excited now . Last edited by Danny : 12-12-2004 at 10:57 AM.

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