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Old 12-18-2004, 07:57 PM   #1
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youth pulls 12/18/2004

How come when I want to post mine, and I actually have an interesting one, nobody has started a youth pull thread???

Anyway, here we go, a 17yo solid!!!! WEEHEE!!!

Patrice Cusson (49755332)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: Canada
Total Skill Index (TSI): 790
Wage: 1 365 C$/week
Owner: Cerio's Dragons FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: poor




17yo, check
solid scoring, check
inadequate passing, check

He's gotta be worth something, right? Anybody, a scoring trainer, got an idea??

He'll be transfer listed at some point tomorrow...

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Old 12-18-2004, 08:33 PM   #2
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Hey, transfer compare might actually work for that one. Congrats on a nice one.

I got a 17 yr old too...too bad he sucked and was fired.
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Old 12-18-2004, 08:35 PM   #3
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Hey, transfer compare might actually work for that one. Congrats on a nice one.

You're right, it's giving a much better estimate, mostly because it's concentrating on the two important skills. Look at this...

Patrice Cusson (49755332)
17 years, passable form, healthy
Old transfers with similar players:
IDDateTotal Skill Index (TSI)/
Price:
AgeForm
4532162012/18/20043 130
1 440 000 C$
17solid
4938485712/18/2004860
600 000 C$
17passable
4937799412/18/2004970
832 000 C$
17passable
4935010212/18/2004770
834 000 C$
17passable
4954440712/18/20041 010
700 000 C$
17passable
4914856912/18/2004700
810 000 C$
17passable
4890399412/18/20043 410
1 632 000 C$
17passable
4888342812/18/20041 950
1 180 000 C$
17inadequate
4928627012/18/20043 880
2 082 000 C$
17passable
4580939412/18/20041 100
840 000 C$
17inadequate
Age = 17 & Scoring=solid & Passing=inadequate


Scoring and passing are important in his case, not the damn poor playmaking...

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Old 12-18-2004, 08:53 PM   #4
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will be on the transfer list soon...

Mike Gatlin (49777134) 18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.


Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 1 310
Wage: 720 US$/week
Owner: Manlius Chubbys
Warnings: 0




Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor



Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0
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Old 12-18-2004, 09:07 PM   #5
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Definately sellable and for some reason another one of my pulls has a "girly" name. I mean I know connie can be a boys name too. but I have had pulls like Gale and Joan before in the past as well.

He is on sale for 1k and will play in my league match if anyone is interested.

Connie Anders (49748922)
19 years, passable form, healthy

A controversial person who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 690
Wage: 678 US$/week
Owner: St Louis Saints
Warnings: 0

Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: solid Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: weak
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Old 12-18-2004, 09:26 PM   #6
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My last two pulls:
Damien Angel
TSI = 340 , 18 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: weak


This weeks'



Daniel Angel
TSI = 880 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Shame I didn't get him first week, any idea for a transfer price?
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Old 12-18-2004, 09:54 PM   #7
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Qwik -- I've been trying to sell a 17 yo solid defender pull for three weeks at $200k and have been having no luck whatsoever. I just listed him again for $100k, we'll see if he can sell this time. Anyway, here's my pull --

Player with ID 49779672 was last seen coaching his old junior school team . His days of glory are clearly over.
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Old 12-18-2004, 10:51 PM   #8
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personally, it seems to me that people are looking a lot harder at secondaries for youth pulls anymore. normally a 17 yr old solid defender would go for over 200k, but it depends a lot more on secondaries lately. i know personally, if they dont have at least inad passing or winger, i dont even look at them as a trainee because the market went down so much for pure primary skilled players. i actually now look for players with solid secondaries and passable primary as a trainee most of the time.

so qwik, i would guess with weak passing as a secondary somewhere around 150'ish usd. maybe im way off on all this though.
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Old 12-19-2004, 12:43 AM   #9
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My best youth pull ever.


Christian Banks
TSI = 4 960 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: excellent
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate


So . . .

Do I list him as a midfielder or as a defender? I'll probably list him as a midfielder, but I'd like some other input.
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Old 12-19-2004, 07:18 AM   #10
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Here's my input...WOW.
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:14 AM   #11
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Last week's

Dwight Swift
TSI = 320 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

This week's

Eugene Dominguez
TSI = 410 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

Both will go on market, could get a little bit of cash for both.
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:59 AM   #12
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My first sellable in a while.... for free

Ibrahim Abdelnour (49675625)

19 years, passable form, healthy
I speak Tunisiyah!



A controversial person who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: France
Total Skill Index (TSI): 380
Wage: 561 €/week
Owner: Alf Trickers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched



Edit Transfer Compare added (since it seems to work here)
Old transfers with similar players:
IDDateTotal Skill Index (TSI)/
Price:
AgeForm
4895201719-12-2004410
50 000 €
19inadequate
4933339219-12-20041 000
70 000 €
19passable
2833469419-12-200420 800
5 100 000 €
19excellent
4914510319-12-2004640
36 000 €
19passable
4958239019-12-2004410
30 368 €
19passable
4838221319-12-2004410
30 000 €
19inadequate
4686471819-12-2004310
11 000 €
19passable
4958173819-12-2004490
17 000 €
19passable
4923720419-12-2004540
34 625 €
19passable
4588698319-12-2004510
45 000 €
19wretched
Age = 19 & Defending=passable & Winger=inadequate
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Old 12-19-2004, 10:31 AM   #13
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17 yrs old, solid passing

that's all...
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:28 PM   #14
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Sidney Marx (49779538)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and upright.
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 330
Wage: 534 US$/week
Owner: Atlas Mademedoits
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

Put on the list already, not too bad this week.
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:21 PM   #15
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personally, it seems to me that people are looking a lot harder at secondaries for youth pulls anymore. normally a 17 yr old solid defender would go for over 200k, but it depends a lot more on secondaries lately. i know personally, if they dont have at least inad passing or winger, i dont even look at them as a trainee because the market went down so much for pure primary skilled players. i actually now look for players with solid secondaries and passable primary as a trainee most of the time.

so qwik, i would guess with weak passing as a secondary somewhere around 150'ish usd. maybe im way off on all this though.

Well Striker Angel went for 5k...but defender Angel went for 327k

So after spending my cash on a wretched brilliant middie, I am back in the black...
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:44 PM   #16
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How come when I want to post mine, and I actually have an interesting one, nobody has started a youth pull thread???

Anyway, here we go, a 17yo solid!!!! WEEHEE!!!

Patrice Cusson (49755332)

17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: Canada
Total Skill Index (TSI): 790
Wage: 1 365 C$/week
Owner: Cerio's Dragons FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: poor




17yo, check
solid scoring, check
inadequate passing, check

He's gotta be worth something, right? Anybody, a scoring trainer, got an idea??

He'll be transfer listed at some point tomorrow...

FM

Kid went for 357k. Was at 100k for a long time, until somebody got tired and update the ante to 350k at once

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Old 12-22-2004, 01:49 PM   #17
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it's a good thing this thread was bumped, it reminded me that i'd completely forgotten to 'pull my youth' this week...

Of course, it really didn't matter since I fired his ass immediately...
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Old 12-22-2004, 05:02 PM   #18
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Christian Banks
TSI = 4 960 , 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: passableKeeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passablePassing: excellent
Winger: wretchedDefending: solid
Scoring: inadequateSet Pieces: inadequate


Sold today for 1 731 000 US$ How should I spend it all?

I think I'll save it for a rainy day.
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Old 12-22-2004, 05:58 PM   #19
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Sold today for 1 731 000 US$ How should I spend it all?

I think I'll save it for a rainy day.

HOLY COW! congrats, but personally i think that guy went for way more than he was worth.

out of curiousity, do you know what type of trainer bought him? playmaking or defense?
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Old 12-23-2004, 12:30 AM   #20
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HOLY COW! congrats, but personally i think that guy went for way more than he was worth.

out of curiousity, do you know what type of trainer bought him? playmaking or defense?

Looks to me like a defender trainer bought him. I think that he went for too much, too . . . but I'm not complaining. I thought that 1.2-1.3 is where I would have sold him this late in the season. If this was a week 1 YP though . . . I couldn't imagine.
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Old 12-23-2004, 12:34 AM   #21
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After checking. He was played at central defender in tonight's friendly and put up 3 stars. When he played in my friendly, he put up 2.5 stars as an inner midfielder.
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