Disaster of an AI

[dubb93]

So we are up 17-10 with less than 2 minutes left and are running the clock out, but instead we run 2 plays and attempt 58 yard field goal.

They get the ball with 5 seconds left throw a bomb draw a pass interference penalty and get the ball at the 2. Then they proceed to throw a TD to tie the game. In OT they win the game. Here's my drive chart I don't save the logs.

Minnesota Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 7:15 1:25 OWN 39 3 2 Punt
1 3:29 4:34 OWN 36 9 64 Touchdown
2 10:02 4:48 OWN 27 8 29 Punt
2 3:06 1:05 OWN 48 3 9 Punt
2 1:01 0:27 OPP 48 3 4 Punt
3 15:00 1:58 OWN 27 3 -5 Punt
3 11:30 1:53 OWN 2 3 8 Punt
3 3:45 5:29 OWN 30 8 70 Touchdown
4 11:37 1:31 OWN 5 3 5 Punt
4 9:00 6:15 OWN 20 10 51 Field Goal
4 1:49 1:44 50 2 9 Missed FG
OT1 15:00 1:16 OWN 26 3 7 Punt

I was actually watching the PBP so I know for a fact they kicked a 58 yard field goal on 3rd down instead of running the clock out, anyone see any logic in this?

[jbmagic]

what game FOF or TCY?

[dubb93]

Here is their drive chart to prove they used the bad clock management to tied it up and send it into OT after that play.

Jacksonville Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 15:00 7:45 OWN 35 12 47 Field Goal
1 5:50 2:21 OWN 5 6 17 Punt
2 13:55 3:53 OWN 23 6 52 Interception
2 5:14 2:08 OWN 4 3 -1 Punt
2 2:01 1:00 OWN 20 3 -5 Punt
2 0:34 0:34 OWN 20 1 18 Half
3 13:02 1:32 OWN 30 3 4 Punt
3 9:37 5:52 OWN 37 10 63 Touchdown
4 13:16 1:39 OWN 20 4 31 Punt
4 10:06 1:06 OWN 43 3 3 Punt
4 2:45 0:56 OWN 26 5 24 Downs
4 0:05 0:05 OWN 48 1 52 Touchdown
OT1 13:44 3:57 OWN 19 8 81 Touchdown

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

what game FOF or TCY?

FOF

[MizzouRah]

..and to think they picked up Tice's option.

The thing I hate is late in a game, you're up and your team is still passing the ball instead of running out the clock with running plays. I call it Martz logic.


Todd

[henry296]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

..and to think they picked up Tice's option.

The thing I hate is late in a game, you're up and your team is still passing the ball instead of running out the clock with running plays. I call it Martz logic.


Todd

Or Dick Vermeil on Saturday.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by dubb93

So we are up 17-10 with less than 2 minutes left and are running the clock out, but instead we run 2 plays and attempt 58 yard field goal.

They get the ball with 5 seconds left throw a bomb draw a pass interference penalty and get the ball at the 2. Then they proceed to throw a TD to tie the game. In OT they win the game. Here's my drive chart I don't save the logs.

Minnesota Drive Chart
Quar Began Poss From Plays Yards Result
1 7:15 1:25 OWN 39 3 2 Punt
1 3:29 4:34 OWN 36 9 64 Touchdown
2 10:02 4:48 OWN 27 8 29 Punt
2 3:06 1:05 OWN 48 3 9 Punt
2 1:01 0:27 OPP 48 3 4 Punt
3 15:00 1:58 OWN 27 3 -5 Punt
3 11:30 1:53 OWN 2 3 8 Punt
3 3:45 5:29 OWN 30 8 70 Touchdown
4 11:37 1:31 OWN 5 3 5 Punt
4 9:00 6:15 OWN 20 10 51 Field Goal
4 1:49 1:44 50 2 9 Missed FG
OT1 15:00 1:16 OWN 26 3 7 Punt

I was actually watching the PBP so I know for a fact they kicked a 58 yard field goal on 3rd down instead of running the clock out, anyone see any logic in this?

I'd send that game log to support and see if they can explain it. That's just odd.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

I'd send that game log to support and see if they can explain it. That's just odd.

Good point, I would send it to support as well.


Todd

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

The thing I hate is late in a game, you're up and your team is still passing the ball instead of running out the clock with running plays. I call it Martz logic.

So adjust your game plan to make them run more when up late.

[jbmagic]

that why pressing the recommend button on gameplans is not a good idea to do.
it doesnt do a good job.

for example i have DB's that was great vs the Zone only, and i use the recommend button on gameplans it wants to put a high % on man to man


it best to do your own gameplans and tweak it yourself

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

that why pressing the recommend button on gameplans is not a good idea to do.
it doesnt do a good job.

for example i have DB's that was great vs the Zone only, and i use the recommend button on gameplans it wants to put a high % on man to man


it best to do your own gameplans and tweak it yourself

I do do my own gameplans(offense and defense), so there goes your theory.

[dubb93]

i'm sending this to support now.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I do do my own gameplans(offense and defense), so there goes your theory.

just curious what your head coach play calling for offense and defense ratings?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

just curious what your head coach play calling for offense and defense ratings?

average for offense and excellent for defense. But even an average offense head coach could figure out with 12 seconds left on 3rd down you run the clock out if yur up 7, not attempt a 58 yard field goal.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

So adjust your game plan to make them run more when up late.

I've done that, maybe I'll up it some more, but I think the game should have another tidbit on the coaches card like: likes to run, likes to pass, almost always runs, almost always passes, etc... I want to know what kind of coach I've hired, what is his reputation? Maybe show his % of calling running vs passing plays. Maybe in a future version?


Todd