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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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The Oscar Nominees are...
ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Jamie Foxx - RAY ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Clive Owen - CLOSER ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Annette Bening - BEING JULIA Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR Laura Linney - KINSEY Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA Natalie Portman - CLOSER ANIMATED FEATURE FILM THE INCREDIBLES SHARK TALE SHREK 2 ART DIRECTION THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT CINEMATOGRAPHY THE AVIATOR HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT COSTUME DESIGN THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS RAY TROY DIRECTING THE AVIATOR MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS VERA DRAKE DOCUMENTARY FEATURE BORN INTO BROTHELS THE STORY OF THE WEEPING CAMEL SUPER SIZE ME TUPAC: RESURRECTION TWIST OF FAITH DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT AUTISM IS A WORLD THE CHILDREN OF LENINGRADSKY HARDWOOD MIGHTY TIMES: THE CHILDREN'S MARCH SISTER ROSE'S PASSION FILM EDITING THE AVIATOR COLLATERAL FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM AS IT IS IN HEAVEN THE CHORUS DOWNFALL THE SEA INSIDE YESTERDAY MAKEUP LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE SEA INSIDE MUSIC (SCORE) FINDING NEVERLAND HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST THE VILLAGE MUSIC (SONG) "Accidentally In Love" - SHREK 2 "Al Otro Lado Del Río" - THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES "Believe" - THE POLAR EXPRESS "Learn To Be Lonely" - THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA "Look To Your Path (Vois Sur Ton Chemin)" - THE CHORUS BEST PICTURE THE AVIATOR FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY RAY SIDEWAYS SHORT FILM (ANIMATED) BIRTHDAY BOY GOPHER BROKE GUARD DOG LORENZO RYAN SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION) EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY MUST LITTLE TERRORIST 7:35 IN THE MORNING TWO CARS, ONE NIGHT WASP SOUND EDITING THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS SPIDER-MAN 2 SOUND MIXING THE AVIATOR THE INCREDIBLES THE POLAR EXPRESS RAY SPIDER-MAN 2 VISUAL EFFECTS HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN I, ROBOT SPIDER-MAN 2 WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY) BEFORE SUNSET FINDING NEVERLAND MILLION DOLLAR BABY THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES SIDEWAYS WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY) THE AVIATOR ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND HOTEL RWANDA THE INCREDIBLES VERA DRAKE
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Burke, VA
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hmmm, can't help but notice no Best Picture nod for Michael Moore.
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lolzcat
Join Date: May 2001
Location: williamsburg, va
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I'm a little surprised that he does not even get a documentary nomination? Or did he make himself ineligible for it? Because unless he did, like it or not, it is one of the best selling documentaries of all time so you'd think it would be nominated.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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I think there was some reason that it didn't qualify for the award. Much like Passion of the Christ.
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lolzcat
Join Date: May 2001
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Why didn't Passion of the Christ qualify?
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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Both qualified but were considered long shots. Michael Moore did allow his to be disqualified for the Documentary category, by playing it on television I believe. Otherwise, I would also think it would have been a definite nomination there. He did it because he thought it would/should get a picture nod.
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN
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How many out of the 5 nominated for best picture have you seen?
Zero here, although I really want to see Sideways. Maybe I'm totally wrong here, but it seems like the nominees for Best Picture used to be "bigger" well known movies, now they seem to be more "artistic", lesser known films. I'm not complaining about it, just an observation. |
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Strategy Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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I'm really, really disappointed in no director nomination for Michel Gondry (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind).
I was also hoping against hope for any nomination for Garden State. Oh well, these awards seem to be getting less legit every year. |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Cicero
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I think there is some arcane rule that a movie cannot be submitted for both documentary and best picture. They went for best picture and missed. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Strategy Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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Zero, with Sideways being the only one I have any real interest in. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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I think it's just because there's no definite leader this year like there has been in years past. It's not unusual for me to have only seen one or two or even none of the nominees since most come out late in the year. That said, I was hoping either Eternal Sunshine or Collateral would get a picture nod. I really thought both of those were great movies. |
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Utah
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Ditto?
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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No, I think you're right. But there was something about him showing it on television that disqualified it for documentary, if I remember correctly. He did that because he was shooting for picture. I can kind of understand, I suppose. He already had the documentary prize for Bowling. Why not see if he can take it to another level? |
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Paris, France
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I'm even more disappointed with Carrey not being nominated. I hope the movie will at least win the original screenplay. |
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Join Date: May 2001
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Before Sunset is as smart and artsy as they come, and that only got one nomination...so I don't know how artsy the nominations are getting.
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lolzcat
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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Saw Sideways, and will be rooting for it. A shade disappointed that Paul Giamatti didn't get a nomination. He was very good.
The sexiest scene I have seen in a movie in quite some time was Virginia Madsen, talking to Paul Giamatti on the porch about wine. It's hard to convey how hot that scene was, epecially since it didn't directly deal with sex at all. |
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Houston, TX
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Of the nominated movies, I've seen the Aviator & Ray. I thought both were good, but not Oscar worthy. With the buzz surrounding Million Dollar Baby, I would be surprised if it didn't sweep everything except for Best Actor, which I'm fairly certain is a lock for Foxx. I have absolutely no interest in seeing MDB, however.
I also saw Hotel Rwanda, and would love to see Cheadle win. And Alan Alda getting a Best Supporting Actor nom? He played the typical shady Congressman in the Aviator that came straight from the stock character bin.
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
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Couple of things that stand out to me,
1) No nomination for Giamati or Bacon really pisses me off. 2) Eastwood for best Actor is a stretch I think, I just wasn't overwhelmed by him in MDB. 3) I hope, of the nominees, that Cheadle wins it. I havn't seen the movie but he's been such an underapreciated actor for so long that i'll be rooting for him. 4) I really got into the Oscars the year Magnolia, American Beauty etc came out and enjoyed them very much becuase I thought they tapped the best pictures/actors almost perfectly that season. And every year since then it's gotten worse and worse, some of the crap on this list is mind boggling....ALAN ALDA? I loved the Aviator but come on, that role was, as was stated above, a stock role. |
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SE
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ZIP here as well and I would agree with the observation and also curious why this is so.
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H.S. Freshman Team
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Spain
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Aviator will win almost all. Hollywood really loves films that talk about hollywood
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Coordinator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Early, TX
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WORST YEAR EVER for the Oscars. The fact that Hollywood hates christians and didn't give "The Passion of the Christ" it's due respect makes me sick. I definitely won't be watching this year.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
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Well this is gonna turn out good.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Early, TX
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Why? Because I voiced an OPINION? Don't worry, I'm not one of you psychos who has all day to spend in pissing matches.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The Passion of the Christ was filmed in Aramaic, making it a foreign language film - disqualifying it from the overall best picture category. Im not sure why it didnt get nominated for best foreign language film tho. The Sea Inside will win this regardless, even if the Christ was nominated, its beyond superior.
You can only be in one 'Best Picture' Category, Moore did not want F9/11 in the documentary category because he believed it was unfair to the other documentaries. It was not disqualified. The only reason why it did not make Best Picture is due to the fact that all the current nominees came out well after F9/11 debuted... that and it really is a documentary and I couldnt really see it getting nominated because of that. He should have put it in the Docu category anyways, Super Size me is a dumb p.o.s and it will probably win. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Flatlands of America
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Passion of the Christ couldn't even get nominated for best foreign language film???
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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Actually, the best foreign language film was an option for the Golden Globes, but if I remember correctly, Passion is not eligible for the Oscar in that category since it was made by an American production company.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Hey Schmidty, it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to give it the nomination. |
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean it as an attack. It's just that after spongebob, well, ya know. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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Found this: Quote:
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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This isn't true. The following comes from the news story released when Gibson decided not to spend money on an Oscar campaign. Quote:
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College Prospect
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Hmm, i guess youre right as im not so sure now. Maybe I was thinking about the Golden Globes? I knew that was the reason for it not being nominated for one of these dang award shows... |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The DMV
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I'm under the impression that nominees are selected by the pure raw vote of the academy members. There is no "blue-ribbon panel" or anything like that doing the selections. So, many shockers in the nominee list over the years are probably due to the resulting peculiarities when you use a popular vote to determine rankings (much like college football poll voting).
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Maria Full of Grace sucked, so i can see how it didnt get the nod - but Motorcycle Diaries, House of Flying Daggers and Bad Education are some of the best movies in the world this year, its more of a shame they didnt get Best Foreign film than PotC. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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Yeah, I think it was the Golden Globes. I think it was ineligible for a GG best picture because it was in a foreign language, making it only eligible for foreign language film at the GGs, but at the Oscars, it's ineligible for foreign film but eligible for picture. Weird stuff. And I think Klingler is exactly right about the voting procedures. Last edited by Cuckoo : 01-25-2005 at 01:01 PM. |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Decatur, GA
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For everyone complaining about "The Passion" not getting 'due respect', go to rottentomatoes.com and look at the review score it got. It may have touched you (good for you then), but it wasn't a good film. Sorry, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Actually, if "Passion" was among the nominated for FL film, it would not have precluded Best Picture. I think both "Crouching Tiger" and "Life is Beautiful" got nods in both categories, though they only wound up runaway winners in the FL category, while losing out in Best Picture.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hometown of Canada
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Disappointed.
One of the better movies I've seen in awhile isn't nominated for Best Picture (Sunshine)... these are the same awards that selected Forest Gump over Shawshank, right? I guess I just don't see eye-to-eye with them. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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And clearly rottentomatoes is the source for quality film reviews... I think the movie was hit or miss with a lot of people, and I actually don't believe it was necessarily tied to their religious feelings as I would have expected. I know some Christians who didn't like very much, and I know several non-Christians who thought it was outstanding. And personally, I do think it was a very good film, and I'm not speaking of in only a religious sense. (I also thought Last Temptation of Christ was a good film even though, from a faith standpoint, I disagreed with it entirely.) Passion was extrememly well-made, well-acted, and poignant. I'm not going to be one of the people who claim it "deserved" a best picture nod as I think there are too many factors to consider when saying that, but to say it wasn't a good film, in my humble opinion, is missing the mark pretty badly. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkeley
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Go Sideways!
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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I haven't seen Hotel Rwanda, but I think Cheadle is one of the best underrated actors of our generation. He has been in a few bad movies, but he always does a good convincing job in whatever role he is in. |
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Damnit! I just realized Control Room wasnt nominated for Best Documentary >
I thought it was much better than F9/11. |
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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I was pleasantly surprised with this movie, and really like it, after initially being a bit worried about hearing they were making it (i as a big fan of Before Sunrise). |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Tampa, FL
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If Fahrenheit 9/11 was filled with disestablishement propaganda and lies and misleading untruths, does that still allow it to be considered for the best non-fiction documentary of any year?
Also, Passion of the Christ was respected to some degree, but painstakingly so, since, according to the atheist left, George Bush invented Jesus. lol. |
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Do you even know what rotten tomatoes is? Actually, most insiders do consider it THE source for quality film reviews. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Edmond, OK
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Yes, I'm quite aware what rotten tomatoes is, and a number of film outlets that I would consider to be more respected in film reviewing gave Passion much more favorable reviews. |
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Carolina
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Share your site. Since rottentomatoes averages hundreds of critical reviews, I'd love to find an even better source for reviews. |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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I've been pimping Sideways for for a while in various forums. Glad to see it get its due. Giamatti should have been nominated, though certainly not for his work on SNL last week, blech.
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
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What I was trying to say is that rottentomatoes collects a variety of different reviews from other print and web outlets to give a film its score. While I really enjoy the site and go there quite a bit, they include a number of reviews in that score that I would consider to be less reputable than others they include. When you look at a number of the well-respected reviews individually, from some print outlets like Rolling Stone, Roger Ebert, CNN, Time, or USA Today, you see some fantastic reviews for the film. I wasn't disparaging rottentomatoes as a whole. I enjoy the site. I was simply commenting about the totality of effect for the review score that was mentioned. |
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